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Have any of you seen this documentary?

Spoiler alert if you haven't. Long story short, it's about a guy who meets a

nineteen year old girl on Facebook, gets emotionally involved with her, but 8

months into the relationship they've still never met in person. As the

relationship progresses, he catches on that she's lying to him about certain

things, small things at first, then much bigger things. Finally he grows

suspicious and curious enough that he decides to make an unannounced drop-in at

her house. He discovers a mid-40's year old woman who fabricated not only the

nineteen year old, but also fifteen of her Facebook friends. What's creepiest

about this to me is that she continues to lie to him after he shows up, tries to

get her real-life 8 year old daughter to buy into the lies ( " You really like to

paint, don't you honey? " ), and it becomes evident that she has created an

incredibly complicated system by which she extends the lies even to her husband,

who thinks the main character is just the biggest buyer of her paintings, not

the guy who has been exchanging lusty texts with his wife. Ew, ew, ew. Then

she's shown as this long-suffering mother of two mentally handicapped children

who gave up everything for them, and in the end the guy decides not to give her

her come-uppance but to let her completely off the hook.

Classic BPD. Barf.

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Just for fun, I looked up this film (I have not actually seen it), and found

that it might not even be a true documentary.

http://blog.moviefone.com/2010/12/04/catfish-lawsuit/ It may have been

staged/manufactured. IMO, that makes it even worse than you describe - BPD

behavior for " entertainment " . If so, I think that's pretty pathetic. Growing

up with my mom was not so entertaining for me, that's for sure. She was the

keeper of reality, and when I tried to tell her she was wrong, she accused me of

having a faulty memory. Hilarious! (NOT!)

How do we get a documentary about what BPD/other PD's are really like out into

the world?

PJ

PJ

>

> Have any of you seen this documentary?

>

> Spoiler alert if you haven't. Long story short, it's about a guy who meets a

nineteen year old girl on Facebook, gets emotionally involved with her, but 8

months into the relationship they've still never met in person. As the

relationship progresses, he catches on that she's lying to him about certain

things, small things at first, then much bigger things. Finally he grows

suspicious and curious enough that he decides to make an unannounced drop-in at

her house. He discovers a mid-40's year old woman who fabricated not only the

nineteen year old, but also fifteen of her Facebook friends. What's creepiest

about this to me is that she continues to lie to him after he shows up, tries to

get her real-life 8 year old daughter to buy into the lies ( " You really like to

paint, don't you honey? " ), and it becomes evident that she has created an

incredibly complicated system by which she extends the lies even to her husband,

who thinks the main character is just the biggest buyer of her paintings, not

the guy who has been exchanging lusty texts with his wife. Ew, ew, ew. Then

she's shown as this long-suffering mother of two mentally handicapped children

who gave up everything for them, and in the end the guy decides not to give her

her come-uppance but to let her completely off the hook.

>

> Classic BPD. Barf.

>

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I don't know, but it would be a great idea to interview people like us, the

actual adult children of bpd parents in order to get a true picture of how

destructive and damaging having a bpd or combo Cluster B parent can actually be.

Occasionally there are videos posted on YouTube showing what seems to me to be

borderline pd behavior; some very upsetting videos show actual physical

mistreatment or even battering of children.

Below is the link to one video taken by a teenage boy (no images, just audio),

of his mother screaming verbal abuse at him for several minutes. Then his

step-dad speaks to him and essentially tells the boy to do what his mother says

and not give her a hard time! Classic dishrag dad behavior!!

When I first saw/heard this video I found it very, very triggering. BE WARNED,

that if you had or have a nada who engages in verbally abusive and/or violent

behavior you will probably find this video triggering also:

If you watch this, I want you to imagine this level of screaming rage directed

at a 4 year old child, and imagine it including the mother slapping the child

around and striking the child. That is what my little Sister and I experienced

over and over again throughout our growing up years.

-Annie

>

> Just for fun, I looked up this film (I have not actually seen it), and found

that it might not even be a true documentary.

http://blog.moviefone.com/2010/12/04/catfish-lawsuit/ It may have been

staged/manufactured. IMO, that makes it even worse than you describe - BPD

behavior for " entertainment " . If so, I think that's pretty pathetic. Growing

up with my mom was not so entertaining for me, that's for sure. She was the

keeper of reality, and when I tried to tell her she was wrong, she accused me of

having a faulty memory. Hilarious! (NOT!)

>

> How do we get a documentary about what BPD/other PD's are really like out into

the world?

>

> PJ

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Yikes.

I'm just about done listening to it now, and wow, it's pretty intense.

Some of my thoughts:

My mom didn't yell at me like that; she just did her crazymaking stuff until I

was so frustrated that I screamed obscenities at *her*...and then, of course,

she could split me all bad and yell at me for being selfish, lazy, and uncaring.

*sigh*

Though he does say some things that don't help the situation, he does set his

boundaries quite clearly. He was also good with his fada. I applaud his

maturity and patience.

I cringe trying to imagine a 4yo in that situation, plus being slapped and

beaten on top of it. You have my condolences and my sincere appreciation for

your being here and being able to support others, including me, on their

journeys.

I feel somewhat better about myself. I may yell at my kids too frequently and

veer *slightly* into that mom's territory, but I am *nowhere* near as

destructive as she is...and I catch myself and do my best to reconnect with my

boys and myself. I'll give my boys extra hugs when I pick them up from school

today. The more aware I am of the times that I do treat them badly, and of how

much worse I could be, the better...thanks!

PJ

> >

> > Just for fun, I looked up this film (I have not actually seen it), and found

that it might not even be a true documentary.

http://blog.moviefone.com/2010/12/04/catfish-lawsuit/ It may have been

staged/manufactured. IMO, that makes it even worse than you describe - BPD

behavior for " entertainment " . If so, I think that's pretty pathetic. Growing

up with my mom was not so entertaining for me, that's for sure. She was the

keeper of reality, and when I tried to tell her she was wrong, she accused me of

having a faulty memory. Hilarious! (NOT!)

> >

> > How do we get a documentary about what BPD/other PD's are really like out

into the world?

> >

> > PJ

>

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> **

>

>

> Yikes.

>

> I'm just about done listening to it now, and wow, it's pretty intense.

>

> Some of my thoughts:

>

> My mom didn't yell at me like that; she just did her crazymaking stuff

> until I was so frustrated that I screamed obscenities at *her*...and then,

> of course, she could split me all bad and yell at me for being selfish,

> lazy, and uncaring. *sigh*

>

> Though he does say some things that don't help the situation, he does set

> his boundaries quite clearly. He was also good with his fada. I applaud his

> maturity and patience.

>

> I cringe trying to imagine a 4yo in that situation, plus being slapped and

> beaten on top of it. You have my condolences and my sincere appreciation

> for your being here and being able to support others, including me, on

> their journeys.

>

> I feel somewhat better about myself. I may yell at my kids too frequently

> and veer *slightly* into that mom's territory, but I am *nowhere* near as

> destructive as she is...and I catch myself and do my best to reconnect with

> my boys and myself. I'll give my boys extra hugs when I pick them up from

> school today. The more aware I am of the times that I do treat them badly,

> and of how much worse I could be, the better...thanks!

>

> PJ

>

>

>

> > >

> > > Just for fun, I looked up this film (I have not actually seen it), and

> found that it might not even be a true documentary.

> http://blog.moviefone.com/2010/12/04/catfish-lawsuit/ It may have been

> staged/manufactured. IMO, that makes it even worse than you describe - BPD

> behavior for " entertainment " . If so, I think that's pretty pathetic.

> Growing up with my mom was not so entertaining for me, that's for sure. She

> was the keeper of reality, and when I tried to tell her she was wrong, she

> accused me of having a faulty memory. Hilarious! (NOT!)

> > >

> > > How do we get a documentary about what BPD/other PD's are really like

> out into the world?

> > >

> > > PJ

> >

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> Really disturbing stuff ! Due to a recent illness, I've been stuck

> in bed for a few weeks, and have had a chance to peruse the horrors of

> current T.V., ad nauseum. I recently viewed Toddlers and Tiaras - its

> guaranteed to bring up issues. Look for the episode with the Russian Nada.

> The scene of the tiny little girl hiding under the table while her Nada

> screams and rants, " They hate her, they hate her!!!!! " is devastating. That

> poor child needs protection, and won't receive it! This child needs our

> prayers!!!

>

I, too, can relate to Nada as " keeper of reality. " My Nada has her

friends, etc. convinced that I am " emotionally fragile, " " highly

sensitive, " and " extremely imaginative and creative, " which translates out

to be, " crazy, histrionic, liar. " She actually accuses me, of things

*she *has done! Because I live in a different state, her friends etc.,

believe

her. After all, she is a mental health professional, and why would any

mother say such terrible things about her daughter, unless they were true !

Dear heaven, its a wonder any of us are sane! Hang on to your truth, and

persevere!

I think the idea of a documentary is a really, really good one!

Sunspot

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A Mental Health professional? Good grief! Talk about hiding in plain sight. I

think it's a very good thing you don't live close to her.

When I was growing up, my mom would sometimes make decisions without me and,

when I questioned her, do her best to convince me that we had discussed it and

agreed on that decision, or she and I would discuss something and make a mutual

decision, but she would change her mind later. I knew she was wrong, and that I

was right, but she was the mom, and, as the child, I had no power to prove it.

I often wished I had written agreements down and been able to make her sign them

so I would have proof later. [i may need to do something like that if she turns

her PD stuff on me after she moves out on her own - she and my dad just got

divorced (his choice) and she has less than five months to move out.]

PJ

> I, too, can relate to Nada as " keeper of reality. " My Nada has her

> friends, etc. convinced that I am " emotionally fragile, " " highly

> sensitive, " and " extremely imaginative and creative, " which translates out

> to be, " crazy, histrionic, liar. " She actually accuses me, of things

> *she *has done! Because I live in a different state, her friends etc.,

> believe

> her. After all, she is a mental health professional, and why would any

> mother say such terrible things about her daughter, unless they were true !

> Dear heaven, its a wonder any of us are sane! Hang on to your truth, and

> persevere!

> I think the idea of a documentary is a really, really good one!

> Sunspot

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This reminds me of a show I saw on the ABC a while ago called HotSexyBlonde.

(Major spoilers coming up) It was told from the perspective of a man who got

caught up in a dangerous love triangle and ended up being killed by the other

man in the triangle relationship. Anyway, long story short, this all started

when the other man (who committed the killing later on) met this woman in an

online chat group who went by the internet name as HotSexyBlonde. This man mind

you was in his 40s I think and HotSexyBlonde was no more than 20 years old. So

these two are talking online and this other bloke also starts chatting with her,

but the first man finds out and becomes jealous and decides to kill him because

he wants HotSexyBlonde all to himself. So he goes and kills the other guy and

continues to chat online to HotSexyBlonde, but she starts lieing to him and

giving him the run-a-round. HotSexyBlonde also uploaded photos of herself (some

of them are a bit

revealing).

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But the man didn't want to talk to her anymore, but she still chatted online

with him anyway. She told him that she loved him so much and doesn't want him

to stop talking to her because she felt so lonely without him. Then the man

started getting suspicous, so he began to dig a little deeper and ends up

discovering that the 20 year old woman he saw online does in fact exist, but it

wasn't actually her that he was talking to. The person he was actually talking

to was the 40-ish year old mother of the 20 year old woman claimed to beÂ

HotSexyBlonde. The mother used her own daughter to get guys attention, uploadedÂ

raunchy photos of her daughter and even had " internet sex " with this man

posing as her daughter. And what excuse did the mother use when she got

busted? She said that she was trying to catch peadophiles out in the act and

that she did it for the sake of her daughter and for other young women in her

community. The mother may not have had

BPD, but something very similar to it. I just felt sick after watching theÂ

show.Â

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Sent: Tuesday, 24 January 2012 1:44 AM

Subject: Catfish

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Have any of you seen this documentary?

Spoiler alert if you haven't. Long story short, it's about a guy who meets a

nineteen year old girl on Facebook, gets emotionally involved with her, but 8

months into the relationship they've still never met in person. As the

relationship progresses, he catches on that she's lying to him about certain

things, small things at first, then much bigger things. Finally he grows

suspicious and curious enough that he decides to make an unannounced drop-in at

her house. He discovers a mid-40's year old woman who fabricated not only the

nineteen year old, but also fifteen of her Facebook friends. What's creepiest

about this to me is that she continues to lie to him after he shows up, tries to

get her real-life 8 year old daughter to buy into the lies ( " You really like to

paint, don't you honey? " ), and it becomes evident that she has created an

incredibly complicated system by which she extends the lies even to her husband,

who thinks the main character is just

the biggest buyer of her paintings, not the guy who has been exchanging lusty

texts with his wife. Ew, ew, ew. Then she's shown as this long-suffering mother

of two mentally handicapped children who gave up everything for them, and in the

end the guy decides not to give her her come-uppance but to let her completely

off the hook.

Classic BPD. Barf.

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EEEEEEEEEEWWWWWWWWWW,

Yeah, I saw that one too, I think I was so horrified, I went straight

into shock and denial. . . .It was undoubtedly the most obscene thing I

have ever seen!

It aint the monsters under the bed we had to worry about, it was the

ones who came to kiss us goodnight. !

Still Shuddering,

Sunspot

On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 5:25 PM, Ruth Bretherton <

chooksrcool333@...> wrote:

> **

>

>

> This reminds me of a show I saw on the ABC a while ago called

> HotSexyBlonde. (Major spoilers coming up) It was told from the perspective

> of a man who got caught up in a dangerous love triangle and ended up being

> killed by the other man in the triangle relationship. Anyway, long story

> short, this all started when the other man (who committed the killing later

> on) met this woman in an online chat group who went by the internet name as

> HotSexyBlonde. This man mind you was in his 40s I think and HotSexyBlonde

> was no more than 20 years old. So these two are talking online and this

> other bloke also starts chatting with her, but the first man finds out and

> becomes jealous and decides to kill him because he wants HotSexyBlonde all

> to himself. So he goes and kills the other guy and continues to chat online

> to HotSexyBlonde, but she starts lieing to him and giving him the

> run-a-round. HotSexyBlonde also uploaded photos of herself (some of them

> are a bit

> revealing).

>

> But the man didn't want to talk to her anymore, but she still chatted

> online with him anyway. She told him that she loved him so much and doesn't

> want him to stop talking to her because she felt so lonely without him.

> Then the man started getting suspicous, so he began to dig a little deeper

> and ends up discovering that the 20 year old woman he saw online does in

> fact exist, but it wasn't actually her that he was talking to. The person

> he was actually talking to was the 40-ish year old mother of the 20 year

> old woman claimed to be HotSexyBlonde. The mother used her own daughter to

> get guys attention, uploaded raunchy photos of her daughter and even

> had " internet sex " with this man posing as her daughter. And what excuse

> did the mother use when she got busted? She said that she was trying to

> catch peadophiles out in the act and that she did it for the sake of her

> daughter and for other young women in her community. The mother may not

> have had

> BPD, but something very similar to it. I just felt sick after watching

> the show.

>

>

> ________________________________

>

> To: WTOAdultChildren1

> Sent: Tuesday, 24 January 2012 1:44 AM

> Subject: Catfish

>

>

>

>

>

> Have any of you seen this documentary?

>

> Spoiler alert if you haven't. Long story short, it's about a guy who meets

> a nineteen year old girl on Facebook, gets emotionally involved with her,

> but 8 months into the relationship they've still never met in person. As

> the relationship progresses, he catches on that she's lying to him about

> certain things, small things at first, then much bigger things. Finally he

> grows suspicious and curious enough that he decides to make an unannounced

> drop-in at her house. He discovers a mid-40's year old woman who fabricated

> not only the nineteen year old, but also fifteen of her Facebook friends.

> What's creepiest about this to me is that she continues to lie to him after

> he shows up, tries to get her real-life 8 year old daughter to buy into the

> lies ( " You really like to paint, don't you honey? " ), and it becomes evident

> that she has created an incredibly complicated system by which she extends

> the lies even to her husband, who thinks the main character is just

> the biggest buyer of her paintings, not the guy who has been exchanging

> lusty texts with his wife. Ew, ew, ew. Then she's shown as this

> long-suffering mother of two mentally handicapped children who gave up

> everything for them, and in the end the guy decides not to give her her

> come-uppance but to let her completely off the hook.

>

> Classic BPD. Barf.

>

>

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I think I may have got the name of the show wrong. I think it may be called

TallHotBlonde. Its either that or HotSexyBlonde, can't quite remember now. Yes

its absolutely horrifying that a mother would do such obscene things to her own

daughter. When it was revealled I think my mouth must have dropped 2 inches and

stayed like that till the end of the show.

________________________________

To: WTOAdultChildren1

Sent: Wednesday, 25 January 2012 10:31 AM

Subject: Re: Catfish

EEEEEEEEEEWWWWWWWWWW,

  Yeah, I saw that one too, I think I was so horrified, I went straight

into shock and denial. . . .It was undoubtedly the most obscene thing I

have ever seen!

  It aint the monsters under the bed we had to worry about, it was the

ones who came to kiss us goodnight. !

Still Shuddering,

  Sunspot

On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 5:25 PM, Ruth Bretherton <

chooksrcool333@...> wrote:

> **

>

>

> This reminds me of a show I saw on the ABC a while ago called

> HotSexyBlonde. (Major spoilers coming up) It was told from the perspective

> of a man who got caught up in a dangerous love triangle and ended up being

> killed by the other man in the triangle relationship. Anyway, long story

> short, this all started when the other man (who committed the killing later

> on) met this woman in an online chat group who went by the internet name as

> HotSexyBlonde. This man mind you was in his 40s I think and HotSexyBlonde

> was no more than 20 years old. So these two are talking online and this

> other bloke also starts chatting with her, but the first man finds out and

> becomes jealous and decides to kill him because he wants HotSexyBlonde all

> to himself. So he goes and kills the other guy and continues to chat online

> to HotSexyBlonde, but she starts lieing to him and giving him the

> run-a-round. HotSexyBlonde also uploaded photos of herself (some of them

> are a bit

> revealing).

>

> But the man didn't want to talk to her anymore, but she still chatted

> online with him anyway. She told him that she loved him so much and doesn't

> want him to stop talking to her because she felt so lonely without him.

> Then the man started getting suspicous, so he began to dig a little deeper

> and ends up discovering that the 20 year old woman he saw online does in

> fact exist, but it wasn't actually her that he was talking to. The person

> he was actually talking to was the 40-ish year old mother of the 20 year

> old woman claimed to be HotSexyBlonde. The mother used her own daughter to

> get guys attention, uploaded raunchy photos of her daughter and even

> had " internet sex " with this man posing as her daughter. And what excuse

> did the mother use when she got busted? She said that she was trying to

> catch peadophiles out in the act and that she did it for the sake of her

> daughter and for other young women in her community. The mother may not

> have had

> BPD, but something very similar to it. I just felt sick after watching

> the show.

>

>

> ________________________________

>

> To: WTOAdultChildren1

> Sent: Tuesday, 24 January 2012 1:44 AM

> Subject: Catfish

>

>

>

>

>

> Have any of you seen this documentary?

>

> Spoiler alert if you haven't. Long story short, it's about a guy who meets

> a nineteen year old girl on Facebook, gets emotionally involved with her,

> but 8 months into the relationship they've still never met in person. As

> the relationship progresses, he catches on that she's lying to him about

> certain things, small things at first, then much bigger things. Finally he

> grows suspicious and curious enough that he decides to make an unannounced

> drop-in at her house. He discovers a mid-40's year old woman who fabricated

> not only the nineteen year old, but also fifteen of her Facebook friends.

> What's creepiest about this to me is that she continues to lie to him after

> he shows up, tries to get her real-life 8 year old daughter to buy into the

> lies ( " You really like to paint, don't you honey? " ), and it becomes evident

> that she has created an incredibly complicated system by which she extends

> the lies even to her husband, who thinks the main character is just

> the biggest buyer of her paintings, not the guy who has been exchanging

> lusty texts with his wife. Ew, ew, ew. Then she's shown as this

> long-suffering mother of two mentally handicapped children who gave up

> everything for them, and in the end the guy decides not to give her her

> come-uppance but to let her completely off the hook.

>

> Classic BPD. Barf.

>

>

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RE the whole fake-ID-used-for-nefarious-reasons thing, I've known someone

personally, a former friend from childhood, who behaved in a similar way. This

person didn't use a daughter to lure dates for herself (she was childless), she

used much, much younger photos of herself.

She was in her 40's at the time, would join dating services, but the photos she

posted of herself were from 20+ years earlier; she'd lie about her age, in

effect creating a false " persona " to attract potential date material. Then

when the guys who responded to her from the dating service showed up and were

(naturally) not well pleased at having been lied to, she would become insulted

and would keep " messing " with the guys via the dating service.

She actually told me all about this, rather gleefully: how much fun she got out

of harassing these guys after the fact for " rejecting " her (when she'd set up a

phony persona in the first place.) It had become her hobby, apparently. I was

bewildered; she obviously knew she was setting herself up to be rejected, and

yet seemed to revel in it.

The kicker? This former friend was a licensed psychiatric social worker.

She ended up stalking and harassing me via the Internet using various anonymous

IDs after I finally pulled the plug on our friendship. So, I buy the concept of

" Catfish " , that a person can be that disordered, delusional and hostile, and can

misuse the Internet like that (and misuse her own daughter like that.)

-Annie

>

> > **

> >

> >

> > This reminds me of a show I saw on the ABC a while ago called

> > HotSexyBlonde. (Major spoilers coming up) It was told from the perspective

> > of a man who got caught up in a dangerous love triangle and ended up being

> > killed by the other man in the triangle relationship. Anyway, long story

> > short, this all started when the other man (who committed the killing later

> > on) met this woman in an online chat group who went by the internet name as

> > HotSexyBlonde. This man mind you was in his 40s I think and HotSexyBlonde

> > was no more than 20 years old. So these two are talking online and this

> > other bloke also starts chatting with her, but the first man finds out and

> > becomes jealous and decides to kill him because he wants HotSexyBlonde all

> > to himself. So he goes and kills the other guy and continues to chat online

> > to HotSexyBlonde, but she starts lieing to him and giving him the

> > run-a-round. HotSexyBlonde also uploaded photos of herself (some of them

> > are a bit

> > revealing).

> >

> > But the man didn't want to talk to her anymore, but she still chatted

> > online with him anyway. She told him that she loved him so much and doesn't

> > want him to stop talking to her because she felt so lonely without him.

> > Then the man started getting suspicous, so he began to dig a little deeper

> > and ends up discovering that the 20 year old woman he saw online does in

> > fact exist, but it wasn't actually her that he was talking to. The person

> > he was actually talking to was the 40-ish year old mother of the 20 year

> > old woman claimed to be HotSexyBlonde. The mother used her own daughter to

> > get guys attention, uploaded raunchy photos of her daughter and even

> > had " internet sex " with this man posing as her daughter. And what excuse

> > did the mother use when she got busted? She said that she was trying to

> > catch peadophiles out in the act and that she did it for the sake of her

> > daughter and for other young women in her community. The mother may not

> > have had

> > BPD, but something very similar to it. I just felt sick after watching

> > the show.

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> >

> > To: WTOAdultChildren1

> > Sent: Tuesday, 24 January 2012 1:44 AM

> > Subject: Catfish

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Have any of you seen this documentary?

> >

> > Spoiler alert if you haven't. Long story short, it's about a guy who meets

> > a nineteen year old girl on Facebook, gets emotionally involved with her,

> > but 8 months into the relationship they've still never met in person. As

> > the relationship progresses, he catches on that she's lying to him about

> > certain things, small things at first, then much bigger things. Finally he

> > grows suspicious and curious enough that he decides to make an unannounced

> > drop-in at her house. He discovers a mid-40's year old woman who fabricated

> > not only the nineteen year old, but also fifteen of her Facebook friends.

> > What's creepiest about this to me is that she continues to lie to him after

> > he shows up, tries to get her real-life 8 year old daughter to buy into the

> > lies ( " You really like to paint, don't you honey? " ), and it becomes evident

> > that she has created an incredibly complicated system by which she extends

> > the lies even to her husband, who thinks the main character is just

> > the biggest buyer of her paintings, not the guy who has been exchanging

> > lusty texts with his wife. Ew, ew, ew. Then she's shown as this

> > long-suffering mother of two mentally handicapped children who gave up

> > everything for them, and in the end the guy decides not to give her her

> > come-uppance but to let her completely off the hook.

> >

> > Classic BPD. Barf.

> >

> >

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Thanks folks, so much for the support,

I have always felt so insane, knowing that Nada could have just been

pounding me into a grease spot, but 20 minutes later be forcing me to act

like the poster-child for her " wonderful mummy " fan club.

Last year,during the roadtrip-from-hell she outlined in detail to me, how

she intended to rewrite thier will, in order to settle everything to my

brother, since I have had had cancer, and didn't deserve to inherit any way

(?), she explained to me, (just prior to dumping me at a motel 1000 miles

from home) that her attorney had a " filthy dyke borderline daughter, who

was a fabulous writer, but totally unbelievable " and that Nada knew exactly

how and what to say to him, in order to make him believe what she wanted

him to believe about me! And, I'm sure,he would believe anything Nada told

him about me just like everyone else has, almost Nada has . She has

impersonated me (and others) on the phone, Given my social security no. to

my ex husband, who proceeded to get credit cards in my name for

girlfriends, and completely blow my credit rating! Interfered in tragic and

cruel ways in personal relationships, my own, as well as others, and on ad

nauseum.

The truth is, Nadas are monsters.

I am very very lucky to have a couple of family members who see beyond

Nadas' " Gracious Lady Bountiful " and " Our Sorrowful Lady of Painful Wisdom

and Ugly Truths " routines. and very, very, greatful to have my Oz family!

Thanks again, and amy Best To All!

On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 9:30 AM, anuria67854 wrote:

> **

>

>

> RE the whole fake-ID-used-for-nefarious-reasons thing, I've known someone

> personally, a former friend from childhood, who behaved in a similar way.

> This person didn't use a daughter to lure dates for herself (she was

> childless), she used much, much younger photos of herself.

>

> She was in her 40's at the time, would join dating services, but the

> photos she posted of herself were from 20+ years earlier; she'd lie about

> her age, in effect creating a false " persona " to attract potential date

> material. Then when the guys who responded to her from the dating service

> showed up and were (naturally) not well pleased at having been lied to, she

> would become insulted and would keep " messing " with the guys via the dating

> service.

>

> She actually told me all about this, rather gleefully: how much fun she

> got out of harassing these guys after the fact for " rejecting " her (when

> she'd set up a phony persona in the first place.) It had become her hobby,

> apparently. I was bewildered; she obviously knew she was setting herself up

> to be rejected, and yet seemed to revel in it.

>

> The kicker? This former friend was a licensed psychiatric social worker.

>

> She ended up stalking and harassing me via the Internet using various

> anonymous IDs after I finally pulled the plug on our friendship. So, I buy

> the concept of " Catfish " , that a person can be that disordered, delusional

> and hostile, and can misuse the Internet like that (and misuse her own

> daughter like that.)

>

> -Annie

>

>

>

> >

> > > **

> > >

> > >

> > > This reminds me of a show I saw on the ABC a while ago called

> > > HotSexyBlonde. (Major spoilers coming up) It was told from the

> perspective

> > > of a man who got caught up in a dangerous love triangle and ended up

> being

> > > killed by the other man in the triangle relationship. Anyway, long

> story

> > > short, this all started when the other man (who committed the killing

> later

> > > on) met this woman in an online chat group who went by the internet

> name as

> > > HotSexyBlonde. This man mind you was in his 40s I think and

> HotSexyBlonde

> > > was no more than 20 years old. So these two are talking online and this

> > > other bloke also starts chatting with her, but the first man finds out

> and

> > > becomes jealous and decides to kill him because he wants HotSexyBlonde

> all

> > > to himself. So he goes and kills the other guy and continues to chat

> online

> > > to HotSexyBlonde, but she starts lieing to him and giving him the

> > > run-a-round. HotSexyBlonde also uploaded photos of herself (some of

> them

> > > are a bit

> > > revealing).

> > >

> > > But the man didn't want to talk to her anymore, but she still chatted

> > > online with him anyway. She told him that she loved him so much and

> doesn't

> > > want him to stop talking to her because she felt so lonely without him.

> > > Then the man started getting suspicous, so he began to dig a little

> deeper

> > > and ends up discovering that the 20 year old woman he saw online does

> in

> > > fact exist, but it wasn't actually her that he was talking to. The

> person

> > > he was actually talking to was the 40-ish year old mother of the 20

> year

> > > old woman claimed to be HotSexyBlonde. The mother used her own

> daughter to

> > > get guys attention, uploaded raunchy photos of her daughter and even

> > > had " internet sex " with this man posing as her daughter. And what

> excuse

> > > did the mother use when she got busted? She said that she was trying to

> > > catch peadophiles out in the act and that she did it for the sake of

> her

> > > daughter and for other young women in her community. The mother may not

> > > have had

> > > BPD, but something very similar to it. I just felt sick after watching

> > > the show.

> > >

> > >

> > > ________________________________

> > >

>

> > > To: WTOAdultChildren1

> > > Sent: Tuesday, 24 January 2012 1:44 AM

> > > Subject: Catfish

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Have any of you seen this documentary?

> > >

> > > Spoiler alert if you haven't. Long story short, it's about a guy who

> meets

> > > a nineteen year old girl on Facebook, gets emotionally involved with

> her,

> > > but 8 months into the relationship they've still never met in person.

> As

> > > the relationship progresses, he catches on that she's lying to him

> about

> > > certain things, small things at first, then much bigger things.

> Finally he

> > > grows suspicious and curious enough that he decides to make an

> unannounced

> > > drop-in at her house. He discovers a mid-40's year old woman who

> fabricated

> > > not only the nineteen year old, but also fifteen of her Facebook

> friends.

> > > What's creepiest about this to me is that she continues to lie to him

> after

> > > he shows up, tries to get her real-life 8 year old daughter to buy

> into the

> > > lies ( " You really like to paint, don't you honey? " ), and it becomes

> evident

> > > that she has created an incredibly complicated system by which she

> extends

> > > the lies even to her husband, who thinks the main character is just

> > > the biggest buyer of her paintings, not the guy who has been exchanging

> > > lusty texts with his wife. Ew, ew, ew. Then she's shown as this

> > > long-suffering mother of two mentally handicapped children who gave up

> > > everything for them, and in the end the guy decides not to give her her

> > > come-uppance but to let her completely off the hook.

> > >

> > > Classic BPD. Barf.

> > >

> > >

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