Guest guest Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 When nada visits, she hardly gives me an arrival date and NEVER commits to a departure date/time. Am I the only one? Cassie Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless NADA? new to group Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 Nope, mine does this too. My Dad's actually kind of given up on planning anything as far as family vacations if she comes along. Usually because she always drags her feet, makes up all these things she has to do before we can go (of course at the last minute), or throws such humongous temper tantrums over NOTHING that nobody feels like going afterward. It's not that we don't want to include her, it just takes so much more EFFORT than it's worth, it seems. It really and truly is like dealing with a rebellious three-year-old. > > When nada visits, she hardly gives me an arrival date and NEVER commits to a > departure date/time. Am I the only one? > > Cassie > Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless > > NADA? new to group > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 Yes, I can relate to the last minute have-to's. Funny how those urgent items were not as important to attend to the previous weeks leading up to the trip.  We went to church every Sunday. It started at the same time every week. I have zero memories of ever making it on time. My mom just couldn't get everything SHE needed to get done in time to get there. But could we go ahead and go, leaving her to drive her own car? Of course not.  I didn't even realize it at the time...I thought that's how some people just " were " . And it is, if they're BPD narcissists!  Cassie  To: WTOAdultChildren1 Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 5:53 PM Subject: Re: NADA? new to group  Nope, mine does this too. My Dad's actually kind of given up on planning anything as far as family vacations if she comes along. Usually because she always drags her feet, makes up all these things she has to do before we can go (of course at the last minute), or throws such humongous temper tantrums over NOTHING that nobody feels like going afterward. It's not that we don't want to include her, it just takes so much more EFFORT than it's worth, it seems. It really and truly is like dealing with a rebellious three-year-old. > > When nada visits, she hardly gives me an arrival date and NEVER commits to a > departure date/time. Am I the only one? > > Cassie > Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless > > NADA? new to group > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 My nada has always been controlling about time issues. When she told us to do something we had to comply instantly. If there was an event or visit she wanted to attend, or an appointment for her benefit, we had to be ready to go on the dot. If it was something for another person's benefit, she'd dawdle getting ready and make us late. I got to a point that I'd lie to her about when she needed to be ready to leave so she could dawdle and we'd still get there on time. She hates waiting in line, gets impatient and wants to leave even if there are only a couple of people ahead of us. She went ballistic on Sister, just had a melt-down one time when Sister was a few minutes late picking her up for an appointment. So, I don't know what it is about bpd/npd and controlling time. Maybe it just boils down to a control issue, period. Nada must be in control of everything at all times. Who knows? -Annie > > > > When nada visits, she hardly gives me an arrival date and NEVER commits to a > > departure date/time. Am I the only one? > > > > Cassie > > Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless > > > > NADA? new to group > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 I remember when I was in high school and working at the local grocery store I used to have to tell her to come pick me up at work 2 hours early just so that she *might* be there on time! I got sick of my coworkers giving me weird looks when they saw me still hanging around the store long after I got off. Oh, and how far away did we live from the store? About 3 miles. Ugh. Definitely a control issue, at least for my nada. Sometimes she would use picking me up late or dropping me off late as " punishment. " Because trying to get your child fired from their job over minor arguments is definitely appropriate discipline. (sarcasm) Maybe she was just reacting to abandonment fears triggered by my having a job in the first place and therefore becoming more independent of her.... Subject: Re: NADA? new to group To: WTOAdultChildren1 Date: Tuesday, July 12, 2011, 4:29 PM Â My nada has always been controlling about time issues. When she told us to do something we had to comply instantly. If there was an event or visit she wanted to attend, or an appointment for her benefit, we had to be ready to go on the dot. If it was something for another person's benefit, she'd dawdle getting ready and make us late. I got to a point that I'd lie to her about when she needed to be ready to leave so she could dawdle and we'd still get there on time. She hates waiting in line, gets impatient and wants to leave even if there are only a couple of people ahead of us. She went ballistic on Sister, just had a melt-down one time when Sister was a few minutes late picking her up for an appointment. So, I don't know what it is about bpd/npd and controlling time. Maybe it just boils down to a control issue, period. Nada must be in control of everything at all times. Who knows? -Annie > > > > When nada visits, she hardly gives me an arrival date and NEVER commits to a > > departure date/time. Am I the only one? > > > > Cassie > > Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless > > > > NADA? new to group > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 When I was in high school, I was in band and choir. We would have concerts several times during the year, usually in the evening. The band and choir rooms were all the way to the back of the school...I had to walk down a long hallway, through the cafeteria, up the stairs, and across a big foyer to get to the front doors. My stepmom always accused me of deliberately being the last one out of the building, making her wait. I wasn't the last one out of the building, but she didn't seem to care. I was a senior in college before I was allowed to drive on my own, and then, only to school if I had to be there early for marching band practice, or had to work after school. I am still trying to figure out what I did to deserve her scorn and hate. She didn't even know me until she married my dad. Janet  Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.  In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.  Be not wise in thine own eyes: fear the LORD, and depart from evil.  It shall be health to thy navel, and marrow to thy bones. Proverbs 3:5-8 To: WTOAdultChildren1 Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 6:40 PM Subject: Re: Re: NADA? new to group  I remember when I was in high school and working at the local grocery store I used to have to tell her to come pick me up at work 2 hours early just so that she *might* be there on time! I got sick of my coworkers giving me weird looks when they saw me still hanging around the store long after I got off. Oh, and how far away did we live from the store? About 3 miles. Ugh. Definitely a control issue, at least for my nada. Sometimes she would use picking me up late or dropping me off late as " punishment. " Because trying to get your child fired from their job over minor arguments is definitely appropriate discipline. (sarcasm) Maybe she was just reacting to abandonment fears triggered by my having a job in the first place and therefore becoming more independent of her.... Subject: Re: NADA? new to group To: WTOAdultChildren1 Date: Tuesday, July 12, 2011, 4:29 PM  My nada has always been controlling about time issues. When she told us to do something we had to comply instantly. If there was an event or visit she wanted to attend, or an appointment for her benefit, we had to be ready to go on the dot. If it was something for another person's benefit, she'd dawdle getting ready and make us late. I got to a point that I'd lie to her about when she needed to be ready to leave so she could dawdle and we'd still get there on time. She hates waiting in line, gets impatient and wants to leave even if there are only a couple of people ahead of us. She went ballistic on Sister, just had a melt-down one time when Sister was a few minutes late picking her up for an appointment. So, I don't know what it is about bpd/npd and controlling time. Maybe it just boils down to a control issue, period. Nada must be in control of everything at all times. Who knows? -Annie > > > > When nada visits, she hardly gives me an arrival date and NEVER commits to a > > departure date/time. Am I the only one? > > > > Cassie > > Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless > > > > NADA? new to group > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 wow, the parallels never cease.  i worked SO hard to learn to drive by the time i was 16 so once my birthday arrived, we could go get my license!  when did i get my license? age 17. that's when she got around to taking me to the DMV. at the time, i lived in another state with her and had no other relatives nearby so i had to wait for her to be " ready " .  Cassie  To: WTOAdultChildren1 Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 6:40 PM Subject: Re: Re: NADA? new to group  I remember when I was in high school and working at the local grocery store I used to have to tell her to come pick me up at work 2 hours early just so that she *might* be there on time! I got sick of my coworkers giving me weird looks when they saw me still hanging around the store long after I got off. Oh, and how far away did we live from the store? About 3 miles. Ugh. Definitely a control issue, at least for my nada. Sometimes she would use picking me up late or dropping me off late as " punishment. " Because trying to get your child fired from their job over minor arguments is definitely appropriate discipline. (sarcasm) Maybe she was just reacting to abandonment fears triggered by my having a job in the first place and therefore becoming more independent of her.... Subject: Re: NADA? new to group To: WTOAdultChildren1 Date: Tuesday, July 12, 2011, 4:29 PM  My nada has always been controlling about time issues. When she told us to do something we had to comply instantly. If there was an event or visit she wanted to attend, or an appointment for her benefit, we had to be ready to go on the dot. If it was something for another person's benefit, she'd dawdle getting ready and make us late. I got to a point that I'd lie to her about when she needed to be ready to leave so she could dawdle and we'd still get there on time. She hates waiting in line, gets impatient and wants to leave even if there are only a couple of people ahead of us. She went ballistic on Sister, just had a melt-down one time when Sister was a few minutes late picking her up for an appointment. So, I don't know what it is about bpd/npd and controlling time. Maybe it just boils down to a control issue, period. Nada must be in control of everything at all times. Who knows? -Annie > > > > When nada visits, she hardly gives me an arrival date and NEVER commits to a > > departure date/time. Am I the only one? > > > > Cassie > > Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless > > > > NADA? new to group > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 So ironic. I was 17 as well. They would never let me drive....nothing but control. When I did start driving I couldn't have a good time b/c they blew my phone up the whole tome. I couldn't ignore their calls, they would start calling my friends' parents and embarrass the crap out of me. > wow, the parallels never cease. > > i worked SO hard to learn to drive by the time i was 16 so once my birthday arrived, we could go get my license! > > when did i get my license? age 17. that's when she got around to taking me to the DMV. at the time, i lived in another state with her and had no other relatives nearby so i had to wait for her to be " ready " . > > > Cassie > > > > To: WTOAdultChildren1 > Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 6:40 PM > Subject: Re: Re: NADA? new to group > > > I remember when I was in high school and working at the local grocery store I used to have to tell her to come pick me up at work 2 hours early just so that she *might* be there on time! I got sick of my coworkers giving me weird looks when they saw me still hanging around the store long after I got off. > > Oh, and how far away did we live from the store? About 3 miles. Ugh. > > Definitely a control issue, at least for my nada. Sometimes she would use picking me up late or dropping me off late as " punishment. " Because trying to get your child fired from their job over minor arguments is definitely appropriate discipline. (sarcasm) > > Maybe she was just reacting to abandonment fears triggered by my having a job in the first place and therefore becoming more independent of her.... > > > > > Subject: Re: NADA? new to group > To: WTOAdultChildren1 > Date: Tuesday, July 12, 2011, 4:29 PM > > > > My nada has always been controlling about time issues. When she told us to do something we had to comply instantly. If there was an event or visit she wanted to attend, or an appointment for her benefit, we had to be ready to go on the dot. If it was something for another person's benefit, she'd dawdle getting ready and make us late. I got to a point that I'd lie to her about when she needed to be ready to leave so she could dawdle and we'd still get there on time. She hates waiting in line, gets impatient and wants to leave even if there are only a couple of people ahead of us. She went ballistic on Sister, just had a melt-down one time when Sister was a few minutes late picking her up for an appointment. > > So, I don't know what it is about bpd/npd and controlling time. Maybe it just boils down to a control issue, period. Nada must be in control of everything at all times. Who knows? > > -Annie > > > > > > > > > > When nada visits, she hardly gives me an arrival date and NEVER commits to a > > > > departure date/time. Am I the only one? > > > > > > > > Cassie > > > > Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless > > > > > > > > NADA? new to group > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 You just triggered a memory for me talking about HS Choir. I too was in Choir in HS. My nada missed all my performances and then claimed I never told her about them. She would put on a show in front of everyone saying Oh Stacey is so shy about her singing she won’t tell us when she performs. My dad would never say anything. To this day she sticks to that story…funny they dropped me off and picked me up from those performances. Things that make you go hmmm My mom was complaining before we went NC that she didn’t know me, she wanted to get to know the preteen Stacey, the teen Stacey and the Adult Stacey…I just said well you should have paid attention I guess. (and Thank Goodness she had nothing to do with how I turned out…I was determined I would be the opposite of them!) ~~Velvet_Tears74~~ Whatever it takes..... From: WTOAdultChildren1 [mailto:WTOAdultChildren1 ] On Behalf Of Janet Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 6:52 PM To: WTOAdultChildren1 Subject: Re: Re: NADA? new to group When I was in high school, I was in band and choir. We would have concerts several times during the year, usually in the evening. The band and choir rooms were all the way to the back of the school...I had to walk down a long hallway, through the cafeteria, up the stairs, and across a big foyer to get to the front doors. My stepmom always accused me of deliberately being the last one out of the building, making her wait. I wasn't the last one out of the building, but she didn't seem to care. I was a senior in college before I was allowed to drive on my own, and then, only to school if I had to be there early for marching band practice, or had to work after school. I am still trying to figure out what I did to deserve her scorn and hate. She didn't even know me until she married my dad. Janet Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths. Be not wise in thine own eyes: fear the LORD, and depart from evil. It shall be health to thy navel, and marrow to thy bones. Proverbs 3:5-8 From: G <agranger16@... <mailto:agranger16%40yahoo.com> > To: WTOAdultChildren1 <mailto:WTOAdultChildren1%40yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 6:40 PM Subject: Re: Re: NADA? new to group I remember when I was in high school and working at the local grocery store I used to have to tell her to come pick me up at work 2 hours early just so that she *might* be there on time! I got sick of my coworkers giving me weird looks when they saw me still hanging around the store long after I got off. Oh, and how far away did we live from the store? About 3 miles. Ugh. Definitely a control issue, at least for my nada. Sometimes she would use picking me up late or dropping me off late as " punishment. " Because trying to get your child fired from their job over minor arguments is definitely appropriate discipline. (sarcasm) Maybe she was just reacting to abandonment fears triggered by my having a job in the first place and therefore becoming more independent of her.... From: anuria67854 <anuria-67854@... <mailto:anuria-67854%40mypacks.net> > Subject: Re: NADA? new to group To: WTOAdultChildren1 <mailto:WTOAdultChildren1%40yahoogroups.com> Date: Tuesday, July 12, 2011, 4:29 PM My nada has always been controlling about time issues. When she told us to do something we had to comply instantly. If there was an event or visit she wanted to attend, or an appointment for her benefit, we had to be ready to go on the dot. If it was something for another person's benefit, she'd dawdle getting ready and make us late. I got to a point that I'd lie to her about when she needed to be ready to leave so she could dawdle and we'd still get there on time. She hates waiting in line, gets impatient and wants to leave even if there are only a couple of people ahead of us. She went ballistic on Sister, just had a melt-down one time when Sister was a few minutes late picking her up for an appointment. So, I don't know what it is about bpd/npd and controlling time. Maybe it just boils down to a control issue, period. Nada must be in control of everything at all times. Who knows? -Annie > > > > When nada visits, she hardly gives me an arrival date and NEVER commits to a > > departure date/time. Am I the only one? > > > > Cassie > > Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless > > > > NADA? new to group > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2011 Report Share Posted July 13, 2011 some of the things i have learned to say when my nada is trying to control me are: " you might be right " (ha - then i think silently : " but you're not " ) " i never thought of it that way " (because i'm not a wingnut like you) " that's an interesting perspective " (interesting to you, maybe) and " i will think that over " all ways to appease her without really saying anything. works like a charm. one thing i chant to myself silently when she's going off is " it's not about me " , and i repeat this as many times as necessary in my head until i'm away from her. good luck and keep us posted! charlotte > > Hello everyone, I am new to this group. At 47 yo, I have just " discovered " BP and think my mother fits the bill to a T. She is currently staying with me so I am laying low. When the smoke clears (hopefully only a few more days) I will try to decide where to go from here as far as future contacts with her. Have a therapist who tells me not to challenge or make any waves with her. I am very very tired of being picked at, given the silent treatment and all the rest of the hysterics -- not in favor of therapist view right now. I dont have to say anything or challenge to get the treatment. Is there any constructive way to head off/deal with/answer all the digs, personal questions, ridiculous behavior... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2011 Report Share Posted July 13, 2011 Can I borrow those for my Tuesday Group? Lol ~~Velvet_Tears74~~ Whatever it takes..... From: WTOAdultChildren1 [mailto:WTOAdultChildren1 ] On Behalf Of retrofitresale Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 1:16 AM To: WTOAdultChildren1 Subject: Re: NADA? new to group some of the things i have learned to say when my nada is trying to control me are: " you might be right " (ha - then i think silently : " but you're not " ) " i never thought of it that way " (because i'm not a wingnut like you) " that's an interesting perspective " (interesting to you, maybe) and " i will think that over " all ways to appease her without really saying anything. works like a charm. one thing i chant to myself silently when she's going off is " it's not about me " , and i repeat this as many times as necessary in my head until i'm away from her. good luck and keep us posted! charlotte > > Hello everyone, I am new to this group. At 47 yo, I have just " discovered " BP and think my mother fits the bill to a T. She is currently staying with me so I am laying low. When the smoke clears (hopefully only a few more days) I will try to decide where to go from here as far as future contacts with her. Have a therapist who tells me not to challenge or make any waves with her. I am very very tired of being picked at, given the silent treatment and all the rest of the hysterics -- not in favor of therapist view right now. I dont have to say anything or challenge to get the treatment. Is there any constructive way to head off/deal with/answer all the digs, personal questions, ridiculous behavior... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2011 Report Share Posted July 13, 2011 I like those a lot! They sound plausibly acknowledging (of her point of view) and yet are entirely non-committal! -Annie > > > > Hello everyone, I am new to this group. At 47 yo, I have just " discovered " BP and think my mother fits the bill to a T. She is currently staying with me so I am laying low. When the smoke clears (hopefully only a few more days) I will try to decide where to go from here as far as future contacts with her. Have a therapist who tells me not to challenge or make any waves with her. I am very very tired of being picked at, given the silent treatment and all the rest of the hysterics -- not in favor of therapist view right now. I dont have to say anything or challenge to get the treatment. Is there any constructive way to head off/deal with/answer all the digs, personal questions, ridiculous behavior... > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2011 Report Share Posted July 13, 2011 Hi burntcoffee2, I am new to this group as well,am 52, and also just discovering BP and that I have a nada. Pretty sure one of my sisters is as well. Anyway, I can relate to your situation as I do not have to " do " anything to bring on criticizm or judgements from my nada and have mostly not said anything back to her in the past. Not because I was doing anything therapeutic, but because I was bewildered and in shock and hurt and confused and didn't know what to say or do. Now with having read some of " stop walking on eggshells " book, and recently had my nada with me for two days, I can tell you I decided to mostly listen (not initiating much because I never know what she'll pick at,etc.) to her and when she has picked or outright insulted or criticized me, mine or anyone I have tried to " be the mirror " not the " sponge " as the book suggests and acknowledged her feelings, but not agreed with them. I also find it helps a lot if I validate her with praise for positive things she has done, she seems to need more praise about daily things than I would expect and I try to do this and stay real at the same time. My dad died recently and I feel he stabalized her much more than I ever knew. I think she is worse now than I have ever seen, hence my discovery of BP. I hope I have helped you. You are not alone. > > Hello everyone, I am new to this group. At 47 yo, I have just " discovered " BP and think my mother fits the bill to a T. She is currently staying with me so I am laying low. When the smoke clears (hopefully only a few more days) I will try to decide where to go from here as far as future contacts with her. Have a therapist who tells me not to challenge or make any waves with her. I am very very tired of being picked at, given the silent treatment and all the rest of the hysterics -- not in favor of therapist view right now. I dont have to say anything or challenge to get the treatment. Is there any constructive way to head off/deal with/answer all the digs, personal questions, ridiculous behavior... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2011 Report Share Posted July 13, 2011 Oh jeez, mine too! Exactly the same thing! I have distinct memories of the entire family (including four kids) waiting in the car in the driveway while she was in the house doing something or other. Then she'd come out to the car and start blaming other people ( " if I didn't have to clean up the breakfast dishes I could be on time " , " if you had put the iron away I wouldn't have had to " ) and, of course, we'd be late. You know, it never even occurred to me until just now that she could have simply driven a second car. > > > > When nada visits, she hardly gives me an arrival date and NEVER commits to a > > departure date/time. Am I the only one? > > > > Cassie > > Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless > > > > NADA? new to group > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 Yes, same here. she just shows up whenever she wants, rings the bell and expects me to be there, and if I'm not (I pretend I'm not) , she will say I did it on purpose, which I deny. Yes, she HATES planning any vacations and setting departure and arrival dates and times - she ALWAYS leaves things open. N > Nope, mine does this too. My Dad's actually kind of given up on planning anything as far as family vacations if she comes along. Usually because she always drags her feet, makes up all these things she has to do before we can go (of course at the last minute), or throws such humongous temper tantrums over NOTHING that nobody feels like going afterward. > > It's not that we don't want to include her, it just takes so much more EFFORT than it's worth, it seems. It really and truly is like dealing with a rebellious three-year-old. > > > > > > When nada visits, she hardly gives me an arrival date and NEVER commits to a > > departure date/time. Am I the only one? > > > > Cassie > > Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless > > > > NADA? new to group > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 Wow ditto that - everything - late for church, weird rules about driving, making up lies when caught not caring about knowing your kid, saying you want to know your kid later after you missed it, sitting in the driveway everyone in the care but nada, refusal to do drivers ed practice hours with you, setting you up to get fired over things like transportation and ruining every vacation. Definitly a handbook is circulating somewhere!!! > ** > > > > Hi burntcoffee2, > I am new to this group as well,am 52, and also just discovering BP and that > I have a nada. Pretty sure one of my sisters is as well. Anyway, I can > relate to your situation as I do not have to " do " anything to bring on > criticizm or judgements from my nada and have mostly not said anything back > to her in the past. Not because I was doing anything therapeutic, but > because I was bewildered and in shock and hurt and confused and didn't know > what to say or do. Now with having read some of " stop walking on eggshells " > book, and recently had my nada with me for two days, I can tell you I > decided to mostly listen (not initiating much because I never know what > she'll pick at,etc.) to her and when she has picked or outright insulted or > criticized me, mine or anyone I have tried to " be the mirror " not the > " sponge " as the book suggests and acknowledged her feelings, but not agreed > with them. I also find it helps a lot if I validate her with praise for > positive things she has done, she seems to need more praise about daily > things than I would expect and I try to do this and stay real at the same > time. My dad died recently and I feel he stabalized her much more than I > ever knewur. I think she is worse now than I have ever seen, hence my > discovery of BP. I hope I have helped you. You are not alone. > > > > > > > Hello everyone, I am new to this group. At 47 yo, I have just > " discovered " BP and think my mother fits the bill to a T. She is currently > staying with me so I am laying low. When the smoke clears (hopefully only > a few more days) I will try to decide where to go from here as far as future > contacts with her. Have a therapist who tells me not to challenge or make > any waves with her. I am very very tired of being picked at, given the > silent treatment and all the rest of the hysterics -- not in favor of > therapist view right now. I dont have to say anything or challenge to get > the treatment. Is there any constructive way to head off/deal with/answer > all the digs, personal questions, ridiculous behavior... > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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