Guest guest Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 I do not talk on here much, I guess cause I have talked a lot of this out, and pretty much there is nothing I can do. I rent an apartment from my Nada. Long story short, I always have internet and when my sister moved out of Nada's home, I offered to share my internet with her. Than My other sister moved in with her two kids. I offered to be nice and share the internet with them as well, but told them different things like they were not allowed to download anything without asking. It is limited bandwidth, and since it is my internet I come first. I would also tell them not to many computers can be connected to the internet at the same time, due again with bandwidth. They have broken these rules over and over again plus some others. Now it seems all my sister kid's friends and my other nephews a nieces and their friends all come over and have a big WiFi Party. Than of course they complain tome on why they have a slow internet connection and why they are lagging etc. Anyway, my nephew is 13years old and going through those hard teenage years. I spend a lot of time with him to try to keep him on track and be better person than his older brother whom is in jail, and his 16 year old sister that got pregnant and now has a baby. Of course I do not force him to do anything, but try to get him involved in many volunteer activities that I do with my church and lodge. Obviously being 13, not everything is always going to be honky dory all of the time, and this is where we run into trouble. My nephew has had temper tantrums, that almost became physical and I had to kick him out of my house. My sister did nothing. As long as it does not effect here, she really doe snot care about anything really. Of course when he mouths off or is disrespectful to her or to my nada, she does do something, which most of the time is very minor, for she does not want to deal with being the bad person. Instead she calls me, like to make him stay in his room etc, and I refused and said i will not be your bully for hire. Unless you are under physical threat i will not intervene. Of course when he mouths or disrespects me, I try to talk to my sister and pretty much comes up this this whole. thing that he got punished already, cause he was upset etc. I said Zi did not think it was good enough and felt she needed to draw boundaries for his negative actions, or he will think nothing negative will happen to him, and will not be held accountable. I recommended that i turn off the internet to his computer for a day or so as punishment. She said she would do it not I. I did not understand for I said it is my internet, and if he disrespects me I have every right not to go out of my way to share with him. She disagreed. I id not trust myself, and talked to my therapists about this. They thought my sister was nuts trying ti dictate who I offered my internet service to or not. They said I was in my right to cut it off to anyone. Ok trying to make this short, so leaving a lot out, but first two times I let it go, and my sister did nothing. Anyway a third incident happened, and I complained to her, she need nothing punishment wise and of course he disrespected me even more. Now she calls me off two days ago and asks if I can turn off the internet for my nephew, cause he was getting mouthy with her and my Nada. At first I agreed to so this, but felt uncomfortable, so i thought about it. I realized i felt uncomfortable cause she was using me to be the bad guy again cause she could not control her son, but did not allow me shut off my own internet when he disrespected me on the same day. The next day she asked for me to turn it back on, and i told her we needed to talk. I said I felt uncomfortable rewarding my nephew by giving him access to my internet, when he never even apologized or thinks his disrespect for me was nothing wrong. I was very calm, she got mad and when we start to try to discuss it further, she said she did not want to argue and hung up. Than my Nada came upstairs and pretend to be nice, but pretty much threatened me with everything such as kicking me out of my apartment, taking my air conditioner away, cause she does not want to pay the electricity, and taking away my cable which was part of my rental package. I told her sternly if you do any of these things I will fight you, and we will be in court for months, and in the mean time will not pay your rent and instead put it in a savings account until this is settled, if she decided to back up her threats. She started screaming at me, especially when I said I had contacted a lawyer and asked about all the settings and my rights. She asked me why i would do that, and i said because i did not trust her and anytime I do not do as she says or wants she threatens to kick me out among many other things, and tries to make my life miserable. I said I needed to protect myself from her. I also told her I recorded our conversation in my apartment, so that it was on record of her threatening me. When i said did it surprised her and she tried not to say anymore and left in a huff. Now it has become a war that start with one person not has three teaming up against me. So much so that I got stranded and could not even get jump, even though they still both had internet access despite everything that happened. I said that was really wrong, for no matter if i was angry at them or not I never left them stranded if they ran out of gas, needed a jumps etc. I said you took a small thing became involved in something that was none of your business and made it into a war. I found out why my nada was really mad. She had promised my nephew that if he did certain things for her to make up for his disrespect, he would allow him to use her internet. i was shocked. my sisters says I can not have any control over who I allow access to my internet that I pay for, but than allows my mother to, and plus my mother lies and tells my nephew she owns it and controls it. So i feel even bad for him, because he is all confused, and when he asked me I told him this was not true, and why is it I that pays the bills, and also why do I have control over it, and why does it come from my house from my phone line. I am sorry for the many errors but I am trying to write this fast for I am very upset and feel at siege in my own apartment with my own stuff. I knew this was going to happen, from my nada's past behaviors, but do I continue to allow her to have her way, and bully me around? I know maybe I should move, but it makes no difference, for than i would be very lonely, and i am disabled and many times need help. 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Guest guest Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 It is a shame that this has to happen over such a petty reason, but it looks to me like they are all just pulling your strings. I feel that you have to have boundaries. If you are paying the bills you have the right to do with your facilities what you wish. It is not for anyone to tell you what to do , you are a grown up. I'm sorry you are going through this. It sounds like crap I go through at times with my nada and fada when they disagree how I discipline my children. It is good that you talked to a lawyer. She can't just kick you out anyway. She has a process by law she has to go through. I would change the password and lock everyone out it would be fair that way. Let your mom get her own internet if she is all that worried about it or let your sister get her own service but not in your apartment. ~~Velvet_Tears74~~ Whatever it takes..... From: WTOAdultChildren1 [mailto:WTOAdultChildren1 ] On Behalf Of Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 4:53 PM To: WTOAdultChildren1 Subject: Nada Wants Control Over MY Internet! I do not talk on here much, I guess cause I have talked a lot of this out, and pretty much there is nothing I can do. I rent an apartment from my Nada. Long story short, I always have internet and when my sister moved out of Nada's home, I offered to share my internet with her. Than My other sister moved in with her two kids. I offered to be nice and share the internet with them as well, but told them different things like they were not allowed to download anything without asking. It is limited bandwidth, and since it is my internet I come first. I would also tell them not to many computers can be connected to the internet at the same time, due again with bandwidth. They have broken these rules over and over again plus some others. Now it seems all my sister kid's friends and my other nephews a nieces and their friends all come over and have a big WiFi Party. Than of course they complain tome on why they have a slow internet connection and why they are lagging etc. Anyway, my nephew is 13years old and going through those hard teenage years. I spend a lot of time with him to try to keep him on track and be better person than his older brother whom is in jail, and his 16 year old sister that got pregnant and now has a baby. Of course I do not force him to do anything, but try to get him involved in many volunteer activities that I do with my church and lodge. Obviously being 13, not everything is always going to be honky dory all of the time, and this is where we run into trouble. My nephew has had temper tantrums, that almost became physical and I had to kick him out of my house. My sister did nothing. As long as it does not effect here, she really doe snot care about anything really. Of course when he mouths off or is disrespectful to her or to my nada, she does do something, which most of the time is very minor, for she does not want to deal with being the bad person. Instead she calls me, like to make him stay in his room etc, and I refused and said i will not be your bully for hire. Unless you are under physical threat i will not intervene. Of course when he mouths or disrespects me, I try to talk to my sister and pretty much comes up this this whole. thing that he got punished already, cause he was upset etc. I said Zi did not think it was good enough and felt she needed to draw boundaries for his negative actions, or he will think nothing negative will happen to him, and will not be held accountable. I recommended that i turn off the internet to his computer for a day or so as punishment. She said she would do it not I. I did not understand for I said it is my internet, and if he disrespects me I have every right not to go out of my way to share with him. She disagreed. I id not trust myself, and talked to my therapists about this. They thought my sister was nuts trying ti dictate who I offered my internet service to or not. They said I was in my right to cut it off to anyone. Ok trying to make this short, so leaving a lot out, but first two times I let it go, and my sister did nothing. Anyway a third incident happened, and I complained to her, she need nothing punishment wise and of course he disrespected me even more. Now she calls me off two days ago and asks if I can turn off the internet for my nephew, cause he was getting mouthy with her and my Nada. At first I agreed to so this, but felt uncomfortable, so i thought about it. I realized i felt uncomfortable cause she was using me to be the bad guy again cause she could not control her son, but did not allow me shut off my own internet when he disrespected me on the same day. The next day she asked for me to turn it back on, and i told her we needed to talk. I said I felt uncomfortable rewarding my nephew by giving him access to my internet, when he never even apologized or thinks his disrespect for me was nothing wrong. I was very calm, she got mad and when we start to try to discuss it further, she said she did not want to argue and hung up. Than my Nada came upstairs and pretend to be nice, but pretty much threatened me with everything such as kicking me out of my apartment, taking my air conditioner away, cause she does not want to pay the electricity, and taking away my cable which was part of my rental package. I told her sternly if you do any of these things I will fight you, and we will be in court for months, and in the mean time will not pay your rent and instead put it in a savings account until this is settled, if she decided to back up her threats. She started screaming at me, especially when I said I had contacted a lawyer and asked about all the settings and my rights. She asked me why i would do that, and i said because i did not trust her and anytime I do not do as she says or wants she threatens to kick me out among many other things, and tries to make my life miserable. I said I needed to protect myself from her. I also told her I recorded our conversation in my apartment, so that it was on record of her threatening me. When i said did it surprised her and she tried not to say anymore and left in a huff. Now it has become a war that start with one person not has three teaming up against me. So much so that I got stranded and could not even get jump, even though they still both had internet access despite everything that happened. I said that was really wrong, for no matter if i was angry at them or not I never left them stranded if they ran out of gas, needed a jumps etc. I said you took a small thing became involved in something that was none of your business and made it into a war. I found out why my nada was really mad. She had promised my nephew that if he did certain things for her to make up for his disrespect, he would allow him to use her internet. i was shocked. my sisters says I can not have any control over who I allow access to my internet that I pay for, but than allows my mother to, and plus my mother lies and tells my nephew she owns it and controls it. So i feel even bad for him, because he is all confused, and when he asked me I told him this was not true, and why is it I that pays the bills, and also why do I have control over it, and why does it come from my house from my phone line. I am sorry for the many errors but I am trying to write this fast for I am very upset and feel at siege in my own apartment with my own stuff. I knew this was going to happen, from my nada's past behaviors, but do I continue to allow her to have her way, and bully me around? I know maybe I should move, but it makes no difference, for than i would be very lonely, and i am disabled and many times need help. 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Guest guest Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 Hi Stacey, Since your relationship with your nada/landlord is already pretty bad, (she is hostile to you, disrespects you and threatens you frequently) I can't see it getting any worse if you decide to set a boundary about the Internet service you're paying for, and just cut off all access to it for nada, your sister, and your nephew. As you have pointed out, she can't just toss you out since you have renter's rights. So, I'd say just do it! You are paying for the Internet service and you were letting others use it purely out of generosity, so, if they're disrespecting you and abusing your generosity then you are well within your rights to withdraw their access to it. But you are the only one who can determine if doing so will make things worse for you or not. Its your call. -Annie > > It is a shame that this has to happen over such a petty reason, but it looks > to me like they are all just pulling your strings. I feel that you have to > have boundaries. If you are paying the bills you have the right to do with > your facilities what you wish. It is not for anyone to tell you what to do , > you are a grown up. I'm sorry you are going through this. It sounds like > crap I go through at times with my nada and fada when they disagree how I > discipline my children. It is good that you talked to a lawyer. She can't > just kick you out anyway. She has a process by law she has to go through. I > would change the password and lock everyone out it would be fair that way. > Let your mom get her own internet if she is all that worried about it or let > your sister get her own service but not in your apartment. > > > > ~~Velvet_Tears74~~ > > > > Whatever it takes..... > > > > From: WTOAdultChildren1 > [mailto:WTOAdultChildren1 ] On Behalf Of > Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 4:53 PM > To: WTOAdultChildren1 > Subject: Nada Wants Control Over MY Internet! > > > > > > I do not talk on here much, I guess cause I have talked a lot of this out, > and pretty much there is nothing I can do. I rent an apartment from my Nada. > Long story short, I always have internet and when my sister moved out of > Nada's home, I offered to share my internet with her. Than My other sister > moved in with her two kids. I offered to be nice and share the internet with > them as well, but told them different things like they were not allowed to > download anything without asking. It is limited bandwidth, and since it is > my internet I come first. I would also tell them not to many computers can > be connected to the internet at the same time, due again with bandwidth. > They have broken these rules over and over again plus some others. Now it > seems all my sister kid's friends and my other nephews a nieces and their > friends all come over and have a big WiFi Party. Than of course they > complain tome on why they have a slow internet connection and why they are > lagging etc. > > Anyway, my nephew is 13years old and going through those hard teenage years. > I spend a lot of time with him to try to keep him on track and be better > person than his older brother whom is in jail, and his 16 year old sister > that got pregnant and now has a baby. Of course I do not force him to do > anything, but try to get him involved in many volunteer activities that I do > with my church and lodge. Obviously being 13, not everything is always going > to be honky dory all of the time, and this is where we run into trouble. My > nephew has had temper tantrums, that almost became physical and I had to > kick him out of my house. My sister did nothing. As long as it does not > effect here, she really doe snot care about anything really. Of course when > he mouths off or is disrespectful to her or to my nada, she does do > something, which most of the time is very minor, for she does not want to > deal with being the bad person. Instead she calls me, like to make him stay > in his room etc, and I refused and said i will not be your bully for hire. > Unless you are under physical threat i will not intervene. Of course when he > mouths or disrespects me, I try to talk to my sister and pretty much comes > up this this whole. thing that he got punished already, cause he was upset > etc. I said Zi did not think it was good enough and felt she needed to draw > boundaries for his negative actions, or he will think nothing negative will > happen to him, and will not be held accountable. I recommended that i turn > off the internet to his computer for a day or so as punishment. She said she > would do it not I. I did not understand for I said it is my internet, and if > he disrespects me I have every right not to go out of my way to share with > him. She disagreed. I id not trust myself, and talked to my therapists about > this. They thought my sister was nuts trying ti dictate who I offered my > internet service to or not. They said I was in my right to cut it off to > anyone. > > Ok trying to make this short, so leaving a lot out, but first two times I > let it go, and my sister did nothing. Anyway a third incident happened, and > I complained to her, she need nothing punishment wise and of course he > disrespected me even more. Now she calls me off two days ago and asks if I > can turn off the internet for my nephew, cause he was getting mouthy with > her and my Nada. At first I agreed to so this, but felt uncomfortable, so i > thought about it. I realized i felt uncomfortable cause she was using me to > be the bad guy again cause she could not control her son, but did not allow > me shut off my own internet when he disrespected me on the same day. The > next day she asked for me to turn it back on, and i told her we needed to > talk. I said I felt uncomfortable rewarding my nephew by giving him access > to my internet, when he never even apologized or thinks his disrespect for > me was nothing wrong. I was very calm, she got mad and when we start to try > to discuss it further, she said she did not want to argue and hung up. Than > my Nada came upstairs and pretend to be nice, but pretty much threatened me > with everything such as kicking me out of my apartment, taking my air > conditioner away, cause she does not want to pay the electricity, and taking > away my cable which was part of my rental package. I told her sternly if you > do any of these things I will fight you, and we will be in court for months, > and in the mean time will not pay your rent and instead put it in a savings > account until this is settled, if she decided to back up her threats. She > started screaming at me, especially when I said I had contacted a lawyer and > asked about all the settings and my rights. She asked me why i would do > that, and i said because i did not trust her and anytime I do not do as she > says or wants she threatens to kick me out among many other things, and > tries to make my life miserable. I said I needed to protect myself from her. > I also told her I recorded our conversation in my apartment, so that it was > on record of her threatening me. When i said did it surprised her and she > tried not to say anymore and left in a huff. > > Now it has become a war that start with one person not has three teaming up > against me. So much so that I got stranded and could not even get jump, even > though they still both had internet access despite everything that happened. > I said that was really wrong, for no matter if i was angry at them or not I > never left them stranded if they ran out of gas, needed a jumps etc. I said > you took a small thing became involved in something that was none of your > business and made it into a war. > > I found out why my nada was really mad. She had promised my nephew that if > he did certain things for her to make up for his disrespect, he would allow > him to use her internet. i was shocked. my sisters says I can not have any > control over who I allow access to my internet that I pay for, but than > allows my mother to, and plus my mother lies and tells my nephew she owns it > and controls it. So i feel even bad for him, because he is all confused, and > when he asked me I told him this was not true, and why is it I that pays the > bills, and also why do I have control over it, and why does it come from my > house from my phone line. > > I am sorry for the many errors but I am trying to write this fast for I am > very upset and feel at siege in my own apartment with my own stuff. I knew > this was going to happen, from my nada's past behaviors, but do I continue > to allow her to have her way, and bully me around? I know maybe I should > move, but it makes no difference, for than i would be very lonely, and i am > disabled and many times need help. I have lived alone in one city for over > 13 years and it was very hard. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 yes it is a shame and to know in the back of mind this would happen due to her control issues. It is even worse that they make me the bad guy for my nephew. They got him believing that I am screwing them over and stealing or something like that. To be honest the relations recently has been ok, due tot he fact that I try not to conversate with my Nada that much. if she starts something I just walk away. I have been trying to practice not feeling to emotional about feeling abandoned by her. I try to not rely on her as little as I can. What bothers me the most is that she is helping to emotionally traumatize another generation's lives, my nephews and nieces. I try to have many activities away from my immediate family to skip the BS, and see how normal people live. I feel I live in the twilight zone that they think they can do this and say it is their internet and tell me how to use it? Maybe I should really freak her out and tell he WiFi causes brain cancer. LOL I know I would not do that, but i think about it. Only thing that gives me a little pleasure in this screwed up living situation. Funny thing is I got a jump from a neighbor that she does not like. I am sure he was probably wondering why there were two vehicles in the driveway and none of them were giving me a jump. Maybe cause he lives right behind us, and hears a lot of what is said, he already knows? My mother already got mad at him for trying to offer water to my sister's beagle, making her think she was abusing animals by leaving him out in the 90 degree heat with no water for an hour. LOL That is the way she put it, that he was telling her she was an animal abuser and all I said is I am sure he meant well, and of course she went off on me and I walked away. GF > > It is a shame that this has to happen over such a petty reason, but it looks > to me like they are all just pulling your strings. I feel that you have to > have boundaries. If you are paying the bills you have the right to do with > your facilities what you wish. It is not for anyone to tell you what to do , > you are a grown up. I'm sorry you are going through this. It sounds like > crap I go through at times with my nada and fada when they disagree how I > discipline my children. It is good that you talked to a lawyer. She can't > just kick you out anyway. She has a process by law she has to go through. I > would change the password and lock everyone out it would be fair that way. > Let your mom get her own internet if she is all that worried about it or let > your sister get her own service but not in your apartment. > > > > ~~Velvet_Tears74~~ > > > > Whatever it takes..... > > > > From: WTOAdultChildren1 > [mailto:WTOAdultChildren1 ] On Behalf Of > Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 4:53 PM > To: WTOAdultChildren1 > Subject: Nada Wants Control Over MY Internet! > > > > > > I do not talk on here much, I guess cause I have talked a lot of this out, > and pretty much there is nothing I can do. I rent an apartment from my Nada. > Long story short, I always have internet and when my sister moved out of > Nada's home, I offered to share my internet with her. Than My other sister > moved in with her two kids. I offered to be nice and share the internet with > them as well, but told them different things like they were not allowed to > download anything without asking. It is limited bandwidth, and since it is > my internet I come first. I would also tell them not to many computers can > be connected to the internet at the same time, due again with bandwidth. > They have broken these rules over and over again plus some others. Now it > seems all my sister kid's friends and my other nephews a nieces and their > friends all come over and have a big WiFi Party. Than of course they > complain tome on why they have a slow internet connection and why they are > lagging etc. > > Anyway, my nephew is 13years old and going through those hard teenage years. > I spend a lot of time with him to try to keep him on track and be better > person than his older brother whom is in jail, and his 16 year old sister > that got pregnant and now has a baby. Of course I do not force him to do > anything, but try to get him involved in many volunteer activities that I do > with my church and lodge. Obviously being 13, not everything is always going > to be honky dory all of the time, and this is where we run into trouble. My > nephew has had temper tantrums, that almost became physical and I had to > kick him out of my house. My sister did nothing. As long as it does not > effect here, she really doe snot care about anything really. Of course when > he mouths off or is disrespectful to her or to my nada, she does do > something, which most of the time is very minor, for she does not want to > deal with being the bad person. Instead she calls me, like to make him stay > in his room etc, and I refused and said i will not be your bully for hire. > Unless you are under physical threat i will not intervene. Of course when he > mouths or disrespects me, I try to talk to my sister and pretty much comes > up this this whole. thing that he got punished already, cause he was upset > etc. I said Zi did not think it was good enough and felt she needed to draw > boundaries for his negative actions, or he will think nothing negative will > happen to him, and will not be held accountable. I recommended that i turn > off the internet to his computer for a day or so as punishment. She said she > would do it not I. I did not understand for I said it is my internet, and if > he disrespects me I have every right not to go out of my way to share with > him. She disagreed. I id not trust myself, and talked to my therapists about > this. They thought my sister was nuts trying ti dictate who I offered my > internet service to or not. They said I was in my right to cut it off to > anyone. > > Ok trying to make this short, so leaving a lot out, but first two times I > let it go, and my sister did nothing. Anyway a third incident happened, and > I complained to her, she need nothing punishment wise and of course he > disrespected me even more. Now she calls me off two days ago and asks if I > can turn off the internet for my nephew, cause he was getting mouthy with > her and my Nada. At first I agreed to so this, but felt uncomfortable, so i > thought about it. I realized i felt uncomfortable cause she was using me to > be the bad guy again cause she could not control her son, but did not allow > me shut off my own internet when he disrespected me on the same day. The > next day she asked for me to turn it back on, and i told her we needed to > talk. I said I felt uncomfortable rewarding my nephew by giving him access > to my internet, when he never even apologized or thinks his disrespect for > me was nothing wrong. I was very calm, she got mad and when we start to try > to discuss it further, she said she did not want to argue and hung up. Than > my Nada came upstairs and pretend to be nice, but pretty much threatened me > with everything such as kicking me out of my apartment, taking my air > conditioner away, cause she does not want to pay the electricity, and taking > away my cable which was part of my rental package. I told her sternly if you > do any of these things I will fight you, and we will be in court for months, > and in the mean time will not pay your rent and instead put it in a savings > account until this is settled, if she decided to back up her threats. She > started screaming at me, especially when I said I had contacted a lawyer and > asked about all the settings and my rights. She asked me why i would do > that, and i said because i did not trust her and anytime I do not do as she > says or wants she threatens to kick me out among many other things, and > tries to make my life miserable. I said I needed to protect myself from her. > I also told her I recorded our conversation in my apartment, so that it was > on record of her threatening me. When i said did it surprised her and she > tried not to say anymore and left in a huff. > > Now it has become a war that start with one person not has three teaming up > against me. So much so that I got stranded and could not even get jump, even > though they still both had internet access despite everything that happened. > I said that was really wrong, for no matter if i was angry at them or not I > never left them stranded if they ran out of gas, needed a jumps etc. I said > you took a small thing became involved in something that was none of your > business and made it into a war. > > I found out why my nada was really mad. She had promised my nephew that if > he did certain things for her to make up for his disrespect, he would allow > him to use her internet. i was shocked. my sisters says I can not have any > control over who I allow access to my internet that I pay for, but than > allows my mother to, and plus my mother lies and tells my nephew she owns it > and controls it. So i feel even bad for him, because he is all confused, and > when he asked me I told him this was not true, and why is it I that pays the > bills, and also why do I have control over it, and why does it come from my > house from my phone line. > > I am sorry for the many errors but I am trying to write this fast for I am > very upset and feel at siege in my own apartment with my own stuff. I knew > this was going to happen, from my nada's past behaviors, but do I continue > to allow her to have her way, and bully me around? I know maybe I should > move, but it makes no difference, for than i would be very lonely, and i am > disabled and many times need help. I have lived alone in one city for over > 13 years and it was very hard. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 Here is an update. I hate thinking about this stuff, cause it gives me sleepless nights with a lot of it coming up in my dreams. I know I have to stand my ground, or they will continue to bully me in getting their way by threatening me. With my sister and Nada making this into a personal vendetta against me, someone innocent got caught up in the mix, my nephew. I wrote him a Facebook message pretty much telling him, that I am giving him a chance to make things right and be more respectful, and that what Nada did was not right and I am sorry about that. I said he should not have to suffer due to their wraith, and I will turn back on internet for all of his machines. With my sister and Nada's stunt, their machines have yet to have any internet access. I will not be bullied into allowing them access. Their move. ly this should not be a game of chess, but it would seem they made it that way with manipulation of control over me. > > > > It is a shame that this has to happen over such a petty reason, but it looks > > to me like they are all just pulling your strings. I feel that you have to > > have boundaries. If you are paying the bills you have the right to do with > > your facilities what you wish. It is not for anyone to tell you what to do , > > you are a grown up. I'm sorry you are going through this. It sounds like > > crap I go through at times with my nada and fada when they disagree how I > > discipline my children. It is good that you talked to a lawyer. She can't > > just kick you out anyway. She has a process by law she has to go through. I > > would change the password and lock everyone out it would be fair that way. > > Let your mom get her own internet if she is all that worried about it or let > > your sister get her own service but not in your apartment. > > > > > > > > ~~Velvet_Tears74~~ > > > > > > > > Whatever it takes..... > > > > > > > > From: WTOAdultChildren1 > > [mailto:WTOAdultChildren1 ] On Behalf Of > > Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 4:53 PM > > To: WTOAdultChildren1 > > Subject: Nada Wants Control Over MY Internet! > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not talk on here much, I guess cause I have talked a lot of this out, > > and pretty much there is nothing I can do. I rent an apartment from my Nada. > > Long story short, I always have internet and when my sister moved out of > > Nada's home, I offered to share my internet with her. Than My other sister > > moved in with her two kids. I offered to be nice and share the internet with > > them as well, but told them different things like they were not allowed to > > download anything without asking. It is limited bandwidth, and since it is > > my internet I come first. I would also tell them not to many computers can > > be connected to the internet at the same time, due again with bandwidth. > > They have broken these rules over and over again plus some others. Now it > > seems all my sister kid's friends and my other nephews a nieces and their > > friends all come over and have a big WiFi Party. Than of course they > > complain tome on why they have a slow internet connection and why they are > > lagging etc. > > > > Anyway, my nephew is 13years old and going through those hard teenage years. > > I spend a lot of time with him to try to keep him on track and be better > > person than his older brother whom is in jail, and his 16 year old sister > > that got pregnant and now has a baby. Of course I do not force him to do > > anything, but try to get him involved in many volunteer activities that I do > > with my church and lodge. Obviously being 13, not everything is always going > > to be honky dory all of the time, and this is where we run into trouble. My > > nephew has had temper tantrums, that almost became physical and I had to > > kick him out of my house. My sister did nothing. As long as it does not > > effect here, she really doe snot care about anything really. Of course when > > he mouths off or is disrespectful to her or to my nada, she does do > > something, which most of the time is very minor, for she does not want to > > deal with being the bad person. Instead she calls me, like to make him stay > > in his room etc, and I refused and said i will not be your bully for hire. > > Unless you are under physical threat i will not intervene. Of course when he > > mouths or disrespects me, I try to talk to my sister and pretty much comes > > up this this whole. thing that he got punished already, cause he was upset > > etc. I said Zi did not think it was good enough and felt she needed to draw > > boundaries for his negative actions, or he will think nothing negative will > > happen to him, and will not be held accountable. I recommended that i turn > > off the internet to his computer for a day or so as punishment. She said she > > would do it not I. I did not understand for I said it is my internet, and if > > he disrespects me I have every right not to go out of my way to share with > > him. She disagreed. I id not trust myself, and talked to my therapists about > > this. They thought my sister was nuts trying ti dictate who I offered my > > internet service to or not. They said I was in my right to cut it off to > > anyone. > > > > Ok trying to make this short, so leaving a lot out, but first two times I > > let it go, and my sister did nothing. Anyway a third incident happened, and > > I complained to her, she need nothing punishment wise and of course he > > disrespected me even more. Now she calls me off two days ago and asks if I > > can turn off the internet for my nephew, cause he was getting mouthy with > > her and my Nada. At first I agreed to so this, but felt uncomfortable, so i > > thought about it. I realized i felt uncomfortable cause she was using me to > > be the bad guy again cause she could not control her son, but did not allow > > me shut off my own internet when he disrespected me on the same day. The > > next day she asked for me to turn it back on, and i told her we needed to > > talk. I said I felt uncomfortable rewarding my nephew by giving him access > > to my internet, when he never even apologized or thinks his disrespect for > > me was nothing wrong. I was very calm, she got mad and when we start to try > > to discuss it further, she said she did not want to argue and hung up. Than > > my Nada came upstairs and pretend to be nice, but pretty much threatened me > > with everything such as kicking me out of my apartment, taking my air > > conditioner away, cause she does not want to pay the electricity, and taking > > away my cable which was part of my rental package. I told her sternly if you > > do any of these things I will fight you, and we will be in court for months, > > and in the mean time will not pay your rent and instead put it in a savings > > account until this is settled, if she decided to back up her threats. She > > started screaming at me, especially when I said I had contacted a lawyer and > > asked about all the settings and my rights. She asked me why i would do > > that, and i said because i did not trust her and anytime I do not do as she > > says or wants she threatens to kick me out among many other things, and > > tries to make my life miserable. I said I needed to protect myself from her. > > I also told her I recorded our conversation in my apartment, so that it was > > on record of her threatening me. When i said did it surprised her and she > > tried not to say anymore and left in a huff. > > > > Now it has become a war that start with one person not has three teaming up > > against me. So much so that I got stranded and could not even get jump, even > > though they still both had internet access despite everything that happened. > > I said that was really wrong, for no matter if i was angry at them or not I > > never left them stranded if they ran out of gas, needed a jumps etc. I said > > you took a small thing became involved in something that was none of your > > business and made it into a war. > > > > I found out why my nada was really mad. She had promised my nephew that if > > he did certain things for her to make up for his disrespect, he would allow > > him to use her internet. i was shocked. my sisters says I can not have any > > control over who I allow access to my internet that I pay for, but than > > allows my mother to, and plus my mother lies and tells my nephew she owns it > > and controls it. So i feel even bad for him, because he is all confused, and > > when he asked me I told him this was not true, and why is it I that pays the > > bills, and also why do I have control over it, and why does it come from my > > house from my phone line. > > > > I am sorry for the many errors but I am trying to write this fast for I am > > very upset and feel at siege in my own apartment with my own stuff. I knew > > this was going to happen, from my nada's past behaviors, but do I continue > > to allow her to have her way, and bully me around? I know maybe I should > > move, but it makes no difference, for than i would be very lonely, and i am > > disabled and many times need help. I have lived alone in one city for over > > 13 years and it was very hard. > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2011 Report Share Posted July 13, 2011 - all this sounds like an absolute mess, and you have my sympathy. I have just about " finished " raising a son, and from that experience I wanted to point out that a lot of child-rearing experts - including teachers, police officers, and child safety experts - tell us again and again that kids should only use the computer in a common area, where adult supervision is present. This is for several reasons - it keeps them from making bad decisions (using the webcam to take nude photos of themselves, for instance), it keeps them from participating in cyberbullying, or becoming prey to predators, and it keeps them from wasting hours of time on social networking sites when they're supposed to be doing their homework. Your sister and mother sound like they're pretty inept at parenting, so I'm sure this argument would go nowhere with them if you brought it up - but if you cancel your Internet account or change your PIN, you'll be doing those kids a favor. Kids that age have no business spending time on a computer alone. > > > > > > It is a shame that this has to happen over such a petty reason, but it looks > > > to me like they are all just pulling your strings. I feel that you have to > > > have boundaries. If you are paying the bills you have the right to do with > > > your facilities what you wish. It is not for anyone to tell you what to do , > > > you are a grown up. I'm sorry you are going through this. It sounds like > > > crap I go through at times with my nada and fada when they disagree how I > > > discipline my children. It is good that you talked to a lawyer. She can't > > > just kick you out anyway. She has a process by law she has to go through. I > > > would change the password and lock everyone out it would be fair that way. > > > Let your mom get her own internet if she is all that worried about it or let > > > your sister get her own service but not in your apartment. > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~Velvet_Tears74~~ > > > > > > > > > > > > Whatever it takes..... > > > > > > > > > > > > From: WTOAdultChildren1 > > > [mailto:WTOAdultChildren1 ] On Behalf Of > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 4:53 PM > > > To: WTOAdultChildren1 > > > Subject: Nada Wants Control Over MY Internet! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not talk on here much, I guess cause I have talked a lot of this out, > > > and pretty much there is nothing I can do. I rent an apartment from my Nada. > > > Long story short, I always have internet and when my sister moved out of > > > Nada's home, I offered to share my internet with her. Than My other sister > > > moved in with her two kids. I offered to be nice and share the internet with > > > them as well, but told them different things like they were not allowed to > > > download anything without asking. It is limited bandwidth, and since it is > > > my internet I come first. I would also tell them not to many computers can > > > be connected to the internet at the same time, due again with bandwidth. > > > They have broken these rules over and over again plus some others. Now it > > > seems all my sister kid's friends and my other nephews a nieces and their > > > friends all come over and have a big WiFi Party. Than of course they > > > complain tome on why they have a slow internet connection and why they are > > > lagging etc. > > > > > > Anyway, my nephew is 13years old and going through those hard teenage years. > > > I spend a lot of time with him to try to keep him on track and be better > > > person than his older brother whom is in jail, and his 16 year old sister > > > that got pregnant and now has a baby. Of course I do not force him to do > > > anything, but try to get him involved in many volunteer activities that I do > > > with my church and lodge. Obviously being 13, not everything is always going > > > to be honky dory all of the time, and this is where we run into trouble. My > > > nephew has had temper tantrums, that almost became physical and I had to > > > kick him out of my house. My sister did nothing. As long as it does not > > > effect here, she really doe snot care about anything really. Of course when > > > he mouths off or is disrespectful to her or to my nada, she does do > > > something, which most of the time is very minor, for she does not want to > > > deal with being the bad person. Instead she calls me, like to make him stay > > > in his room etc, and I refused and said i will not be your bully for hire. > > > Unless you are under physical threat i will not intervene. Of course when he > > > mouths or disrespects me, I try to talk to my sister and pretty much comes > > > up this this whole. thing that he got punished already, cause he was upset > > > etc. I said Zi did not think it was good enough and felt she needed to draw > > > boundaries for his negative actions, or he will think nothing negative will > > > happen to him, and will not be held accountable. I recommended that i turn > > > off the internet to his computer for a day or so as punishment. She said she > > > would do it not I. I did not understand for I said it is my internet, and if > > > he disrespects me I have every right not to go out of my way to share with > > > him. She disagreed. I id not trust myself, and talked to my therapists about > > > this. They thought my sister was nuts trying ti dictate who I offered my > > > internet service to or not. They said I was in my right to cut it off to > > > anyone. > > > > > > Ok trying to make this short, so leaving a lot out, but first two times I > > > let it go, and my sister did nothing. Anyway a third incident happened, and > > > I complained to her, she need nothing punishment wise and of course he > > > disrespected me even more. Now she calls me off two days ago and asks if I > > > can turn off the internet for my nephew, cause he was getting mouthy with > > > her and my Nada. At first I agreed to so this, but felt uncomfortable, so i > > > thought about it. I realized i felt uncomfortable cause she was using me to > > > be the bad guy again cause she could not control her son, but did not allow > > > me shut off my own internet when he disrespected me on the same day. The > > > next day she asked for me to turn it back on, and i told her we needed to > > > talk. I said I felt uncomfortable rewarding my nephew by giving him access > > > to my internet, when he never even apologized or thinks his disrespect for > > > me was nothing wrong. I was very calm, she got mad and when we start to try > > > to discuss it further, she said she did not want to argue and hung up. Than > > > my Nada came upstairs and pretend to be nice, but pretty much threatened me > > > with everything such as kicking me out of my apartment, taking my air > > > conditioner away, cause she does not want to pay the electricity, and taking > > > away my cable which was part of my rental package. I told her sternly if you > > > do any of these things I will fight you, and we will be in court for months, > > > and in the mean time will not pay your rent and instead put it in a savings > > > account until this is settled, if she decided to back up her threats. She > > > started screaming at me, especially when I said I had contacted a lawyer and > > > asked about all the settings and my rights. She asked me why i would do > > > that, and i said because i did not trust her and anytime I do not do as she > > > says or wants she threatens to kick me out among many other things, and > > > tries to make my life miserable. I said I needed to protect myself from her. > > > I also told her I recorded our conversation in my apartment, so that it was > > > on record of her threatening me. When i said did it surprised her and she > > > tried not to say anymore and left in a huff. > > > > > > Now it has become a war that start with one person not has three teaming up > > > against me. So much so that I got stranded and could not even get jump, even > > > though they still both had internet access despite everything that happened. > > > I said that was really wrong, for no matter if i was angry at them or not I > > > never left them stranded if they ran out of gas, needed a jumps etc. I said > > > you took a small thing became involved in something that was none of your > > > business and made it into a war. > > > > > > I found out why my nada was really mad. She had promised my nephew that if > > > he did certain things for her to make up for his disrespect, he would allow > > > him to use her internet. i was shocked. my sisters says I can not have any > > > control over who I allow access to my internet that I pay for, but than > > > allows my mother to, and plus my mother lies and tells my nephew she owns it > > > and controls it. So i feel even bad for him, because he is all confused, and > > > when he asked me I told him this was not true, and why is it I that pays the > > > bills, and also why do I have control over it, and why does it come from my > > > house from my phone line. > > > > > > I am sorry for the many errors but I am trying to write this fast for I am > > > very upset and feel at siege in my own apartment with my own stuff. I knew > > > this was going to happen, from my nada's past behaviors, but do I continue > > > to allow her to have her way, and bully me around? I know maybe I should > > > move, but it makes no difference, for than i would be very lonely, and i am > > > disabled and many times need help. I have lived alone in one city for over > > > 13 years and it was very hard. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 thank you. I absolutely abhor how my sister raises her kids. She gives up easy and almost lets them do what they want out of convenience to keep them out of her hair. Than when they get out of line, she gets me to straighten them out, and even threatens them with me. At things like family picnic is extremely annoying, because she would never look after or run after her youngest, who is 5 now, while she got into trouble or broke things. It seemed in her mind, let others deal with her instead of her being a parent. Usually it was me putting her youngest inline. The funny thing is, is she has been scolded by my Nada and other sister about her lack of parenting. I got mad cause she would not tell my nephew that getting a present from her seedy friend of an illegal movie, is not a gift, is stealing and wrong. I got mad because I bought this same movie for him for Christmas only having to return it, cause he got three free illegal movies from my sister's friend. My sister said she thought it was a nice gesture. I said how? Wow that is really hard to download an illegal movie than copy and burn it for all of your friends. Plus since many of them come from Asia, they look like crap anyway. LOL My nephew complained about his movie, and I said well that's what you get when you get an illegal movie instead of being honest and buying it. This has been the same for movies that he should not be watching and than get nightmares from them. he blames his father saying he lets him watch them anyway so she gives up. I told her she should not lower her standards and morality because of him. And now with the internet, she allows him to play World of Warcraft un supervised, and he was good, but now i am seeing that change and him rebelling. he uses Facebook and has unfriended his mother, me and his AUnt. The reason, is because I told his mother about an obscene music video that he posted on his wall. it seems she does not care as long as it doe snot personally concern her. She might do something if someone else says something more or so to save face it seems. It makes it worse that my nephew has a half brother that is already in a juvenile jail for stealing cars and such, a half sister that has a baby now at 17. He has a jerk for a dad that he is pretty much estranged from and really does not want anything to do with him, cause he is abusive and wants his kids to be subservient, but does not go out of his way to show his love or take an interest in their activities. I feel he is at a very crucial age of which way he will go. Her justification for allowing him to be disrespectful, and not punish he violent outbursts, is that he is going through a lot. Aren't we all? I told here than despite him going through stuff, and not meaning sometimes what he does, needs to have consequences for his actions to teach him responsibility. She actually agree dafter much talking with her about taking away his internet before, but as the previous story is inconsistent and does not punish him when he disrespects me. It would seem i have gotten off topic, but maybe a lot of this has to do with my Nada. She ignored my sister's problems and actually made up this fantasy memories of her being so good, when it was not true, and made us believe it too. She was the good child. She would say my sister got perfect grades. Well my sister found her grade cards recently and realized that this was not true, and it had a big warning sign on it, but my nada did nothing. by the way, my sister is Bi-Polar, but feel she does not get help due to her manipulation of her therapists and doctor. The reason why I know this, is because when we talked, she never talked about about how they suggested that she change. many times she zones out of life, cause she does not want to deal with it. She enables my nada and this also gets me upset. My other sister, I was told, is also BPD. They say she got it from my Nada. She has a lot of the same symptoms. But that is a different story. I talk about all this cause my therapist has told me it is hard for any of us to separate what is suppose to be normal since we were born to a Nada. I was told we are so intertwined with this BS it is very hard to fix it. I see it now. it seems i am the only one that recognizes the problems and i do not want to go along with the dysfunctional status que any longer. I am the rebel and the break away, and this has caused me a lot of problems. But if i did not and just let things be the same, I think it would be worse, so pretty much I am stuck between a rock and hard place, except I am wiling to do what is right to better myself despite the great emotional pain and loneliness. I say loneliness, for I can not talk about my mom and sisters to others for they would not understand, and in society you do not put down your mother, for than you are looked down on, especially for a Man. > > > > > > > > It is a shame that this has to happen over such a petty reason, but it looks > > > > to me like they are all just pulling your strings. I feel that you have to > > > > have boundaries. If you are paying the bills you have the right to do with > > > > your facilities what you wish. It is not for anyone to tell you what to do , > > > > you are a grown up. I'm sorry you are going through this. It sounds like > > > > crap I go through at times with my nada and fada when they disagree how I > > > > discipline my children. It is good that you talked to a lawyer. She can't > > > > just kick you out anyway. She has a process by law she has to go through. I > > > > would change the password and lock everyone out it would be fair that way. > > > > Let your mom get her own internet if she is all that worried about it or let > > > > your sister get her own service but not in your apartment. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~Velvet_Tears74~~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Whatever it takes..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: WTOAdultChildren1 > > > > [mailto:WTOAdultChildren1 ] On Behalf Of > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 4:53 PM > > > > To: WTOAdultChildren1 > > > > Subject: Nada Wants Control Over MY Internet! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not talk on here much, I guess cause I have talked a lot of this out, > > > > and pretty much there is nothing I can do. I rent an apartment from my Nada. > > > > Long story short, I always have internet and when my sister moved out of > > > > Nada's home, I offered to share my internet with her. Than My other sister > > > > moved in with her two kids. I offered to be nice and share the internet with > > > > them as well, but told them different things like they were not allowed to > > > > download anything without asking. It is limited bandwidth, and since it is > > > > my internet I come first. I would also tell them not to many computers can > > > > be connected to the internet at the same time, due again with bandwidth. > > > > They have broken these rules over and over again plus some others. Now it > > > > seems all my sister kid's friends and my other nephews a nieces and their > > > > friends all come over and have a big WiFi Party. Than of course they > > > > complain tome on why they have a slow internet connection and why they are > > > > lagging etc. > > > > > > > > Anyway, my nephew is 13years old and going through those hard teenage years. > > > > I spend a lot of time with him to try to keep him on track and be better > > > > person than his older brother whom is in jail, and his 16 year old sister > > > > that got pregnant and now has a baby. Of course I do not force him to do > > > > anything, but try to get him involved in many volunteer activities that I do > > > > with my church and lodge. Obviously being 13, not everything is always going > > > > to be honky dory all of the time, and this is where we run into trouble. My > > > > nephew has had temper tantrums, that almost became physical and I had to > > > > kick him out of my house. My sister did nothing. As long as it does not > > > > effect here, she really doe snot care about anything really. Of course when > > > > he mouths off or is disrespectful to her or to my nada, she does do > > > > something, which most of the time is very minor, for she does not want to > > > > deal with being the bad person. Instead she calls me, like to make him stay > > > > in his room etc, and I refused and said i will not be your bully for hire. > > > > Unless you are under physical threat i will not intervene. Of course when he > > > > mouths or disrespects me, I try to talk to my sister and pretty much comes > > > > up this this whole. thing that he got punished already, cause he was upset > > > > etc. I said Zi did not think it was good enough and felt she needed to draw > > > > boundaries for his negative actions, or he will think nothing negative will > > > > happen to him, and will not be held accountable. I recommended that i turn > > > > off the internet to his computer for a day or so as punishment. She said she > > > > would do it not I. I did not understand for I said it is my internet, and if > > > > he disrespects me I have every right not to go out of my way to share with > > > > him. She disagreed. I id not trust myself, and talked to my therapists about > > > > this. They thought my sister was nuts trying ti dictate who I offered my > > > > internet service to or not. They said I was in my right to cut it off to > > > > anyone. > > > > > > > > Ok trying to make this short, so leaving a lot out, but first two times I > > > > let it go, and my sister did nothing. Anyway a third incident happened, and > > > > I complained to her, she need nothing punishment wise and of course he > > > > disrespected me even more. Now she calls me off two days ago and asks if I > > > > can turn off the internet for my nephew, cause he was getting mouthy with > > > > her and my Nada. At first I agreed to so this, but felt uncomfortable, so i > > > > thought about it. I realized i felt uncomfortable cause she was using me to > > > > be the bad guy again cause she could not control her son, but did not allow > > > > me shut off my own internet when he disrespected me on the same day. The > > > > next day she asked for me to turn it back on, and i told her we needed to > > > > talk. I said I felt uncomfortable rewarding my nephew by giving him access > > > > to my internet, when he never even apologized or thinks his disrespect for > > > > me was nothing wrong. I was very calm, she got mad and when we start to try > > > > to discuss it further, she said she did not want to argue and hung up. Than > > > > my Nada came upstairs and pretend to be nice, but pretty much threatened me > > > > with everything such as kicking me out of my apartment, taking my air > > > > conditioner away, cause she does not want to pay the electricity, and taking > > > > away my cable which was part of my rental package. I told her sternly if you > > > > do any of these things I will fight you, and we will be in court for months, > > > > and in the mean time will not pay your rent and instead put it in a savings > > > > account until this is settled, if she decided to back up her threats. She > > > > started screaming at me, especially when I said I had contacted a lawyer and > > > > asked about all the settings and my rights. She asked me why i would do > > > > that, and i said because i did not trust her and anytime I do not do as she > > > > says or wants she threatens to kick me out among many other things, and > > > > tries to make my life miserable. I said I needed to protect myself from her. > > > > I also told her I recorded our conversation in my apartment, so that it was > > > > on record of her threatening me. When i said did it surprised her and she > > > > tried not to say anymore and left in a huff. > > > > > > > > Now it has become a war that start with one person not has three teaming up > > > > against me. So much so that I got stranded and could not even get jump, even > > > > though they still both had internet access despite everything that happened. > > > > I said that was really wrong, for no matter if i was angry at them or not I > > > > never left them stranded if they ran out of gas, needed a jumps etc. I said > > > > you took a small thing became involved in something that was none of your > > > > business and made it into a war. > > > > > > > > I found out why my nada was really mad. She had promised my nephew that if > > > > he did certain things for her to make up for his disrespect, he would allow > > > > him to use her internet. i was shocked. my sisters says I can not have any > > > > control over who I allow access to my internet that I pay for, but than > > > > allows my mother to, and plus my mother lies and tells my nephew she owns it > > > > and controls it. So i feel even bad for him, because he is all confused, and > > > > when he asked me I told him this was not true, and why is it I that pays the > > > > bills, and also why do I have control over it, and why does it come from my > > > > house from my phone line. > > > > > > > > I am sorry for the many errors but I am trying to write this fast for I am > > > > very upset and feel at siege in my own apartment with my own stuff. I knew > > > > this was going to happen, from my nada's past behaviors, but do I continue > > > > to allow her to have her way, and bully me around? I know maybe I should > > > > move, but it makes no difference, for than i would be very lonely, and i am > > > > disabled and many times need help. I have lived alone in one city for over > > > > 13 years and it was very hard. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 Hi , You are the only one who can figure out what you can and can't live with or tolerate. If living in the constant stress of your mother's home with all the drama and chaos, arguments, threats, verbal abuse and disrespect is more tolerable than living alone somewhere else, or sharing a place with a housemate, then, that's the option that works for you. (Each of us is different. For me, living in that kind of stress and chaos would make me feel suicidal.) Education is power, and empowering. Maybe it will help you to read about co-dependency (feeling inappropriately responsible for other adults' feelings) and how to overcome it, how to create reasonable adult boundaries for yourself, etc. -Annie > > > > > > > > > > It is a shame that this has to happen over such a petty reason, but it looks > > > > > to me like they are all just pulling your strings. I feel that you have to > > > > > have boundaries. If you are paying the bills you have the right to do with > > > > > your facilities what you wish. It is not for anyone to tell you what to do , > > > > > you are a grown up. I'm sorry you are going through this. It sounds like > > > > > crap I go through at times with my nada and fada when they disagree how I > > > > > discipline my children. It is good that you talked to a lawyer. She can't > > > > > just kick you out anyway. She has a process by law she has to go through. I > > > > > would change the password and lock everyone out it would be fair that way. > > > > > Let your mom get her own internet if she is all that worried about it or let > > > > > your sister get her own service but not in your apartment. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~Velvet_Tears74~~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Whatever it takes..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: WTOAdultChildren1 > > > > > [mailto:WTOAdultChildren1 ] On Behalf Of > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 4:53 PM > > > > > To: WTOAdultChildren1 > > > > > Subject: Nada Wants Control Over MY Internet! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not talk on here much, I guess cause I have talked a lot of this out, > > > > > and pretty much there is nothing I can do. I rent an apartment from my Nada. > > > > > Long story short, I always have internet and when my sister moved out of > > > > > Nada's home, I offered to share my internet with her. Than My other sister > > > > > moved in with her two kids. I offered to be nice and share the internet with > > > > > them as well, but told them different things like they were not allowed to > > > > > download anything without asking. It is limited bandwidth, and since it is > > > > > my internet I come first. I would also tell them not to many computers can > > > > > be connected to the internet at the same time, due again with bandwidth. > > > > > They have broken these rules over and over again plus some others. Now it > > > > > seems all my sister kid's friends and my other nephews a nieces and their > > > > > friends all come over and have a big WiFi Party. Than of course they > > > > > complain tome on why they have a slow internet connection and why they are > > > > > lagging etc. > > > > > > > > > > Anyway, my nephew is 13years old and going through those hard teenage years. > > > > > I spend a lot of time with him to try to keep him on track and be better > > > > > person than his older brother whom is in jail, and his 16 year old sister > > > > > that got pregnant and now has a baby. Of course I do not force him to do > > > > > anything, but try to get him involved in many volunteer activities that I do > > > > > with my church and lodge. Obviously being 13, not everything is always going > > > > > to be honky dory all of the time, and this is where we run into trouble. My > > > > > nephew has had temper tantrums, that almost became physical and I had to > > > > > kick him out of my house. My sister did nothing. As long as it does not > > > > > effect here, she really doe snot care about anything really. Of course when > > > > > he mouths off or is disrespectful to her or to my nada, she does do > > > > > something, which most of the time is very minor, for she does not want to > > > > > deal with being the bad person. Instead she calls me, like to make him stay > > > > > in his room etc, and I refused and said i will not be your bully for hire. > > > > > Unless you are under physical threat i will not intervene. Of course when he > > > > > mouths or disrespects me, I try to talk to my sister and pretty much comes > > > > > up this this whole. thing that he got punished already, cause he was upset > > > > > etc. I said Zi did not think it was good enough and felt she needed to draw > > > > > boundaries for his negative actions, or he will think nothing negative will > > > > > happen to him, and will not be held accountable. I recommended that i turn > > > > > off the internet to his computer for a day or so as punishment. She said she > > > > > would do it not I. I did not understand for I said it is my internet, and if > > > > > he disrespects me I have every right not to go out of my way to share with > > > > > him. She disagreed. I id not trust myself, and talked to my therapists about > > > > > this. They thought my sister was nuts trying ti dictate who I offered my > > > > > internet service to or not. They said I was in my right to cut it off to > > > > > anyone. > > > > > > > > > > Ok trying to make this short, so leaving a lot out, but first two times I > > > > > let it go, and my sister did nothing. Anyway a third incident happened, and > > > > > I complained to her, she need nothing punishment wise and of course he > > > > > disrespected me even more. Now she calls me off two days ago and asks if I > > > > > can turn off the internet for my nephew, cause he was getting mouthy with > > > > > her and my Nada. At first I agreed to so this, but felt uncomfortable, so i > > > > > thought about it. I realized i felt uncomfortable cause she was using me to > > > > > be the bad guy again cause she could not control her son, but did not allow > > > > > me shut off my own internet when he disrespected me on the same day. The > > > > > next day she asked for me to turn it back on, and i told her we needed to > > > > > talk. I said I felt uncomfortable rewarding my nephew by giving him access > > > > > to my internet, when he never even apologized or thinks his disrespect for > > > > > me was nothing wrong. I was very calm, she got mad and when we start to try > > > > > to discuss it further, she said she did not want to argue and hung up. Than > > > > > my Nada came upstairs and pretend to be nice, but pretty much threatened me > > > > > with everything such as kicking me out of my apartment, taking my air > > > > > conditioner away, cause she does not want to pay the electricity, and taking > > > > > away my cable which was part of my rental package. I told her sternly if you > > > > > do any of these things I will fight you, and we will be in court for months, > > > > > and in the mean time will not pay your rent and instead put it in a savings > > > > > account until this is settled, if she decided to back up her threats. She > > > > > started screaming at me, especially when I said I had contacted a lawyer and > > > > > asked about all the settings and my rights. She asked me why i would do > > > > > that, and i said because i did not trust her and anytime I do not do as she > > > > > says or wants she threatens to kick me out among many other things, and > > > > > tries to make my life miserable. I said I needed to protect myself from her. > > > > > I also told her I recorded our conversation in my apartment, so that it was > > > > > on record of her threatening me. When i said did it surprised her and she > > > > > tried not to say anymore and left in a huff. > > > > > > > > > > Now it has become a war that start with one person not has three teaming up > > > > > against me. So much so that I got stranded and could not even get jump, even > > > > > though they still both had internet access despite everything that happened. > > > > > I said that was really wrong, for no matter if i was angry at them or not I > > > > > never left them stranded if they ran out of gas, needed a jumps etc. I said > > > > > you took a small thing became involved in something that was none of your > > > > > business and made it into a war. > > > > > > > > > > I found out why my nada was really mad. She had promised my nephew that if > > > > > he did certain things for her to make up for his disrespect, he would allow > > > > > him to use her internet. i was shocked. my sisters says I can not have any > > > > > control over who I allow access to my internet that I pay for, but than > > > > > allows my mother to, and plus my mother lies and tells my nephew she owns it > > > > > and controls it. So i feel even bad for him, because he is all confused, and > > > > > when he asked me I told him this was not true, and why is it I that pays the > > > > > bills, and also why do I have control over it, and why does it come from my > > > > > house from my phone line. > > > > > > > > > > I am sorry for the many errors but I am trying to write this fast for I am > > > > > very upset and feel at siege in my own apartment with my own stuff. I knew > > > > > this was going to happen, from my nada's past behaviors, but do I continue > > > > > to allow her to have her way, and bully me around? I know maybe I should > > > > > move, but it makes no difference, for than i would be very lonely, and i am > > > > > disabled and many times need help. I have lived alone in one city for over > > > > > 13 years and it was very hard. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 Thank you Annie. I do realize I have my own problems. I guess I get frustrated that I am the only one trying to deal with them from the abuse from my father, the abuse of a Nada, and being tortured in jail, being there over something minor. I currently see a CVB (Crime VIctims Board) therapist due to my torture in jail and a rape about when I was 18. Especially due to NY having a new law that you can only be in therapy for 5 years. They are many times my only outlet, for I can not trust the advice from my immediate family, and I can not talk about it outside, for that is taboo and it will make me look bad. I sincerely try to recognize when I am wrong, and many times do not trust myself. My therapists keep telling me that I am right and I have to learn to trust myself more. I know i can be pretty reactive to others. That is something I am working on, and letting things go and think about them before just reacting. Like I said, in the past I would have stood my ground and argued with my Nada, but than I would get frustrated and very angry and go off the deep end swearing and everything else. I do not do that now, even though every fiber of my being wants to scream! i try not to just take revenge against my Nada, even though she does it to me if I do not agree or do as she says. That is why I have to consistently protect myself. At times it can be pleasant and there are bonuses to being closer to my nephews and nieces. I love them very much and love to interact with them. When I lived away, i did not get visited very much, and not by my other BPD sister at all. That is something I have also talked about with my therapist. There are pros and cons to both things, and I am still trying to figure it out. These huge blow up type of things do not happen often, for I do not let it happen and walk away. > > > > > > > > > > > > It is a shame that this has to happen over such a petty reason, but it looks > > > > > > to me like they are all just pulling your strings. I feel that you have to > > > > > > have boundaries. If you are paying the bills you have the right to do with > > > > > > your facilities what you wish. It is not for anyone to tell you what to do , > > > > > > you are a grown up. I'm sorry you are going through this. It sounds like > > > > > > crap I go through at times with my nada and fada when they disagree how I > > > > > > discipline my children. It is good that you talked to a lawyer. She can't > > > > > > just kick you out anyway. She has a process by law she has to go through. I > > > > > > would change the password and lock everyone out it would be fair that way. > > > > > > Let your mom get her own internet if she is all that worried about it or let > > > > > > your sister get her own service but not in your apartment. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~Velvet_Tears74~~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Whatever it takes..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: WTOAdultChildren1 > > > > > > [mailto:WTOAdultChildren1 ] On Behalf Of > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 4:53 PM > > > > > > To: WTOAdultChildren1 > > > > > > Subject: Nada Wants Control Over MY Internet! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not talk on here much, I guess cause I have talked a lot of this out, > > > > > > and pretty much there is nothing I can do. I rent an apartment from my Nada. > > > > > > Long story short, I always have internet and when my sister moved out of > > > > > > Nada's home, I offered to share my internet with her. Than My other sister > > > > > > moved in with her two kids. I offered to be nice and share the internet with > > > > > > them as well, but told them different things like they were not allowed to > > > > > > download anything without asking. It is limited bandwidth, and since it is > > > > > > my internet I come first. I would also tell them not to many computers can > > > > > > be connected to the internet at the same time, due again with bandwidth. > > > > > > They have broken these rules over and over again plus some others. Now it > > > > > > seems all my sister kid's friends and my other nephews a nieces and their > > > > > > friends all come over and have a big WiFi Party. Than of course they > > > > > > complain tome on why they have a slow internet connection and why they are > > > > > > lagging etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyway, my nephew is 13years old and going through those hard teenage years. > > > > > > I spend a lot of time with him to try to keep him on track and be better > > > > > > person than his older brother whom is in jail, and his 16 year old sister > > > > > > that got pregnant and now has a baby. Of course I do not force him to do > > > > > > anything, but try to get him involved in many volunteer activities that I do > > > > > > with my church and lodge. Obviously being 13, not everything is always going > > > > > > to be honky dory all of the time, and this is where we run into trouble. My > > > > > > nephew has had temper tantrums, that almost became physical and I had to > > > > > > kick him out of my house. My sister did nothing. As long as it does not > > > > > > effect here, she really doe snot care about anything really. Of course when > > > > > > he mouths off or is disrespectful to her or to my nada, she does do > > > > > > something, which most of the time is very minor, for she does not want to > > > > > > deal with being the bad person. Instead she calls me, like to make him stay > > > > > > in his room etc, and I refused and said i will not be your bully for hire. > > > > > > Unless you are under physical threat i will not intervene. Of course when he > > > > > > mouths or disrespects me, I try to talk to my sister and pretty much comes > > > > > > up this this whole. thing that he got punished already, cause he was upset > > > > > > etc. I said Zi did not think it was good enough and felt she needed to draw > > > > > > boundaries for his negative actions, or he will think nothing negative will > > > > > > happen to him, and will not be held accountable. I recommended that i turn > > > > > > off the internet to his computer for a day or so as punishment. She said she > > > > > > would do it not I. I did not understand for I said it is my internet, and if > > > > > > he disrespects me I have every right not to go out of my way to share with > > > > > > him. She disagreed. I id not trust myself, and talked to my therapists about > > > > > > this. They thought my sister was nuts trying ti dictate who I offered my > > > > > > internet service to or not. They said I was in my right to cut it off to > > > > > > anyone. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok trying to make this short, so leaving a lot out, but first two times I > > > > > > let it go, and my sister did nothing. Anyway a third incident happened, and > > > > > > I complained to her, she need nothing punishment wise and of course he > > > > > > disrespected me even more. Now she calls me off two days ago and asks if I > > > > > > can turn off the internet for my nephew, cause he was getting mouthy with > > > > > > her and my Nada. At first I agreed to so this, but felt uncomfortable, so i > > > > > > thought about it. I realized i felt uncomfortable cause she was using me to > > > > > > be the bad guy again cause she could not control her son, but did not allow > > > > > > me shut off my own internet when he disrespected me on the same day. The > > > > > > next day she asked for me to turn it back on, and i told her we needed to > > > > > > talk. I said I felt uncomfortable rewarding my nephew by giving him access > > > > > > to my internet, when he never even apologized or thinks his disrespect for > > > > > > me was nothing wrong. I was very calm, she got mad and when we start to try > > > > > > to discuss it further, she said she did not want to argue and hung up. Than > > > > > > my Nada came upstairs and pretend to be nice, but pretty much threatened me > > > > > > with everything such as kicking me out of my apartment, taking my air > > > > > > conditioner away, cause she does not want to pay the electricity, and taking > > > > > > away my cable which was part of my rental package. I told her sternly if you > > > > > > do any of these things I will fight you, and we will be in court for months, > > > > > > and in the mean time will not pay your rent and instead put it in a savings > > > > > > account until this is settled, if she decided to back up her threats. She > > > > > > started screaming at me, especially when I said I had contacted a lawyer and > > > > > > asked about all the settings and my rights. She asked me why i would do > > > > > > that, and i said because i did not trust her and anytime I do not do as she > > > > > > says or wants she threatens to kick me out among many other things, and > > > > > > tries to make my life miserable. I said I needed to protect myself from her. > > > > > > I also told her I recorded our conversation in my apartment, so that it was > > > > > > on record of her threatening me. When i said did it surprised her and she > > > > > > tried not to say anymore and left in a huff. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now it has become a war that start with one person not has three teaming up > > > > > > against me. So much so that I got stranded and could not even get jump, even > > > > > > though they still both had internet access despite everything that happened. > > > > > > I said that was really wrong, for no matter if i was angry at them or not I > > > > > > never left them stranded if they ran out of gas, needed a jumps etc. I said > > > > > > you took a small thing became involved in something that was none of your > > > > > > business and made it into a war. > > > > > > > > > > > > I found out why my nada was really mad. She had promised my nephew that if > > > > > > he did certain things for her to make up for his disrespect, he would allow > > > > > > him to use her internet. i was shocked. my sisters says I can not have any > > > > > > control over who I allow access to my internet that I pay for, but than > > > > > > allows my mother to, and plus my mother lies and tells my nephew she owns it > > > > > > and controls it. So i feel even bad for him, because he is all confused, and > > > > > > when he asked me I told him this was not true, and why is it I that pays the > > > > > > bills, and also why do I have control over it, and why does it come from my > > > > > > house from my phone line. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am sorry for the many errors but I am trying to write this fast for I am > > > > > > very upset and feel at siege in my own apartment with my own stuff. I knew > > > > > > this was going to happen, from my nada's past behaviors, but do I continue > > > > > > to allow her to have her way, and bully me around? I know maybe I should > > > > > > move, but it makes no difference, for than i would be very lonely, and i am > > > > > > disabled and many times need help. I have lived alone in one city for over > > > > > > 13 years and it was very hard. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 Hi , I am sorry to hear that you have been through so much. Your story about the jail is awful, my heart goes out to you. I have heard of many people who have had simliar stories of just being there overnight or for a few hours, one young man was killed, and another who was arrested for disturbing the peace at a protest was intentionally put into a cell with other inmates and gang-raped. It sounds like you might have trauma symptoms or be suffering PTSD. I have something similar that makes it very difficult for me to function on jobs where I have to interact with a lot of people, i.e. the public, or be put under certain kinds of stress. And I stress 'certain kinds' because I am a very hard worker, and I have worked in a lot of jobs that many people would find beneath them, such as cleaning and jobs involving animals such as vet/kennel/animal shelter, which are all different words that describe cleaning up poop for 8 hours a day. I love these kinds of jobs, where there is little if any human interaction, unfortunately they do not pay well, and I have been living on my parent's land for 8 years. It puts me in constant contact with them. Another huge factor in my predicament is that I have a lot of animals that mean the world to me and it is almost impossible to find a place to rent with this many animals, especially since all of the dogs are over the weight limit for allowed size in apartment buildings. On what I make, I could barely afford to rent anything, and anything major happening like a car repair could leave me and my animals homeless. I thought I read in your first post that you are on disability, which means you have a limited income. That is terrible about that law that limits the time you can be in therapy, in my opinion that is ridiculous, I wonder what the end game is if you aren't well by then...institutionalization? Euthanasia? Siberia? It's a very strange law, in my opinion. when i read your post I didn't respond because it seems like *such* a difficult situation, and I couldn't even imagine what to say. My heart goes out to you. I know that you will come to a solution, but it will probably take much input from other people and hashing it out with your therapist for a while to come to a solution that feels right to you in your gut. I know exactly what it is like to be emotionally involved with nieces and nephews that are not being adequately parented, when you can barely take care of your own needs, because that is my situation as well. I have many symptoms of aspergers but my therapist at this point says that my problems could also come from PTSD related stuff and she is going to assess me for it at some point in the next month. I spend my whole hour of therapy once a week just rattling away because of all the insanity that I am surrounded by. I just wanted to reach out to you because I can empathize with what it is like to be challenged in this way in terms of either being disabled and/or not being economically able to separate from family no matter how much other people would like us to zip up these problems with simple solutions and 'fix it'. But the fact is this is an internet message board and this is what we are here for, if anything, to help and support each other. I only say this because there used to be a poster on here a while back who really leaned on me to 'move/move/move' because that was her solution and she apparently felt like she was giving me 'tough love' and had already decided what I should do. I eventually just left this message board for a while because coming here filled me with anxiety and it became wholly negative, and therefore pointless. In my opinion people who have a disability or disorder of whatever sort that renders them unable to live independently of lunatics need support more than anyone else. At this point my therapist is urging me to give her a chance to assess me for PTSD and work on " coping skills " or whatever, to see if she can improve my ability to function in jobs where I have coworkers or have to interact with the public. It has increasingly worsened as I have gotten older. I dissociate at the drop of a hat or at the first feeling of anxiety, and then I blank out instructions about what I am supposed to be doing. I have almost no control over the dissociation...it's very frustrating. I just go to lunch mentally and then I find myself messing up badly and not being able to perform. Well that is enough about me, I just wanted to say just keep on posting and talking about this so that people can validate your experience, you are helping others as well, it is good to know, for instance, that I am not alone in having concern over nieces and nephews that I am being roped into being a part of their parents' dysfunction...I think your situation is very similar to mine, and I am also strong armed into watching them (which i am supposed to be watching my nephew right now so I will close). Many hugs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is a shame that this has to happen over such a petty reason, but it looks > > > > > > > to me like they are all just pulling your strings. I feel that you have to > > > > > > > have boundaries. If you are paying the bills you have the right to do with > > > > > > > your facilities what you wish. It is not for anyone to tell you what to do , > > > > > > > you are a grown up. I'm sorry you are going through this. It sounds like > > > > > > > crap I go through at times with my nada and fada when they disagree how I > > > > > > > discipline my children. It is good that you talked to a lawyer. She can't > > > > > > > just kick you out anyway. She has a process by law she has to go through. I > > > > > > > would change the password and lock everyone out it would be fair that way. > > > > > > > Let your mom get her own internet if she is all that worried about it or let > > > > > > > your sister get her own service but not in your apartment. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~Velvet_Tears74~~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Whatever it takes..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: WTOAdultChildren1 > > > > > > > [mailto:WTOAdultChildren1 ] On Behalf Of > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 4:53 PM > > > > > > > To: WTOAdultChildren1 > > > > > > > Subject: Nada Wants Control Over MY Internet! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not talk on here much, I guess cause I have talked a lot of this out, > > > > > > > and pretty much there is nothing I can do. I rent an apartment from my Nada. > > > > > > > Long story short, I always have internet and when my sister moved out of > > > > > > > Nada's home, I offered to share my internet with her. Than My other sister > > > > > > > moved in with her two kids. I offered to be nice and share the internet with > > > > > > > them as well, but told them different things like they were not allowed to > > > > > > > download anything without asking. It is limited bandwidth, and since it is > > > > > > > my internet I come first. I would also tell them not to many computers can > > > > > > > be connected to the internet at the same time, due again with bandwidth. > > > > > > > They have broken these rules over and over again plus some others. Now it > > > > > > > seems all my sister kid's friends and my other nephews a nieces and their > > > > > > > friends all come over and have a big WiFi Party. Than of course they > > > > > > > complain tome on why they have a slow internet connection and why they are > > > > > > > lagging etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyway, my nephew is 13years old and going through those hard teenage years. > > > > > > > I spend a lot of time with him to try to keep him on track and be better > > > > > > > person than his older brother whom is in jail, and his 16 year old sister > > > > > > > that got pregnant and now has a baby. Of course I do not force him to do > > > > > > > anything, but try to get him involved in many volunteer activities that I do > > > > > > > with my church and lodge. Obviously being 13, not everything is always going > > > > > > > to be honky dory all of the time, and this is where we run into trouble. My > > > > > > > nephew has had temper tantrums, that almost became physical and I had to > > > > > > > kick him out of my house. My sister did nothing. As long as it does not > > > > > > > effect here, she really doe snot care about anything really. Of course when > > > > > > > he mouths off or is disrespectful to her or to my nada, she does do > > > > > > > something, which most of the time is very minor, for she does not want to > > > > > > > deal with being the bad person. Instead she calls me, like to make him stay > > > > > > > in his room etc, and I refused and said i will not be your bully for hire. > > > > > > > Unless you are under physical threat i will not intervene. Of course when he > > > > > > > mouths or disrespects me, I try to talk to my sister and pretty much comes > > > > > > > up this this whole. thing that he got punished already, cause he was upset > > > > > > > etc. I said Zi did not think it was good enough and felt she needed to draw > > > > > > > boundaries for his negative actions, or he will think nothing negative will > > > > > > > happen to him, and will not be held accountable. I recommended that i turn > > > > > > > off the internet to his computer for a day or so as punishment. She said she > > > > > > > would do it not I. I did not understand for I said it is my internet, and if > > > > > > > he disrespects me I have every right not to go out of my way to share with > > > > > > > him. She disagreed. I id not trust myself, and talked to my therapists about > > > > > > > this. They thought my sister was nuts trying ti dictate who I offered my > > > > > > > internet service to or not. They said I was in my right to cut it off to > > > > > > > anyone. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok trying to make this short, so leaving a lot out, but first two times I > > > > > > > let it go, and my sister did nothing. Anyway a third incident happened, and > > > > > > > I complained to her, she need nothing punishment wise and of course he > > > > > > > disrespected me even more. Now she calls me off two days ago and asks if I > > > > > > > can turn off the internet for my nephew, cause he was getting mouthy with > > > > > > > her and my Nada. At first I agreed to so this, but felt uncomfortable, so i > > > > > > > thought about it. I realized i felt uncomfortable cause she was using me to > > > > > > > be the bad guy again cause she could not control her son, but did not allow > > > > > > > me shut off my own internet when he disrespected me on the same day. The > > > > > > > next day she asked for me to turn it back on, and i told her we needed to > > > > > > > talk. I said I felt uncomfortable rewarding my nephew by giving him access > > > > > > > to my internet, when he never even apologized or thinks his disrespect for > > > > > > > me was nothing wrong. I was very calm, she got mad and when we start to try > > > > > > > to discuss it further, she said she did not want to argue and hung up. Than > > > > > > > my Nada came upstairs and pretend to be nice, but pretty much threatened me > > > > > > > with everything such as kicking me out of my apartment, taking my air > > > > > > > conditioner away, cause she does not want to pay the electricity, and taking > > > > > > > away my cable which was part of my rental package. I told her sternly if you > > > > > > > do any of these things I will fight you, and we will be in court for months, > > > > > > > and in the mean time will not pay your rent and instead put it in a savings > > > > > > > account until this is settled, if she decided to back up her threats. She > > > > > > > started screaming at me, especially when I said I had contacted a lawyer and > > > > > > > asked about all the settings and my rights. She asked me why i would do > > > > > > > that, and i said because i did not trust her and anytime I do not do as she > > > > > > > says or wants she threatens to kick me out among many other things, and > > > > > > > tries to make my life miserable. I said I needed to protect myself from her. > > > > > > > I also told her I recorded our conversation in my apartment, so that it was > > > > > > > on record of her threatening me. When i said did it surprised her and she > > > > > > > tried not to say anymore and left in a huff. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now it has become a war that start with one person not has three teaming up > > > > > > > against me. So much so that I got stranded and could not even get jump, even > > > > > > > though they still both had internet access despite everything that happened. > > > > > > > I said that was really wrong, for no matter if i was angry at them or not I > > > > > > > never left them stranded if they ran out of gas, needed a jumps etc. I said > > > > > > > you took a small thing became involved in something that was none of your > > > > > > > business and made it into a war. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I found out why my nada was really mad. She had promised my nephew that if > > > > > > > he did certain things for her to make up for his disrespect, he would allow > > > > > > > him to use her internet. i was shocked. my sisters says I can not have any > > > > > > > control over who I allow access to my internet that I pay for, but than > > > > > > > allows my mother to, and plus my mother lies and tells my nephew she owns it > > > > > > > and controls it. So i feel even bad for him, because he is all confused, and > > > > > > > when he asked me I told him this was not true, and why is it I that pays the > > > > > > > bills, and also why do I have control over it, and why does it come from my > > > > > > > house from my phone line. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am sorry for the many errors but I am trying to write this fast for I am > > > > > > > very upset and feel at siege in my own apartment with my own stuff. I knew > > > > > > > this was going to happen, from my nada's past behaviors, but do I continue > > > > > > > to allow her to have her way, and bully me around? I know maybe I should > > > > > > > move, but it makes no difference, for than i would be very lonely, and i am > > > > > > > disabled and many times need help. I have lived alone in one city for over > > > > > > > 13 years and it was very hard. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 Hi jeremy, I posted a reply to this earlier but it either was lost in the yahoo vacuum or got deleted. You are not the only one living with bpd people and I hope that if there are other people out there reading this board they will post rather than be intimidated by people who have been able to live separately and have gone NC or LC because constant contact with these folks is something that renders us needing even more validation and support than usual for someone with bpd family member. Especially for people who are disabled or have disorders and cannot secure enough financial stability to live independently (and even in this economy I find there are people who have never experienced this or can't relate to it, it's almost as if they think it's an imaginary state of affairs). I am this way, having been affected either with asperger like symptoms or possibly ptsd which makes it really hard for me to work with others, either the public or coworkers. the jobs I like and thrive at don't pay well. whatever this is, that the therapist keeps insisting is ptsd symptoms though I am not convinced, it has gotten worse as I have gotten older. My previous post was a lot longer, I hope you will keep coming back and posting and don't feel 'shamed' by anyone who might not understand your situation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is a shame that this has to happen over such a petty reason, but it looks > > > > > > > to me like they are all just pulling your strings. I feel that you have to > > > > > > > have boundaries. If you are paying the bills you have the right to do with > > > > > > > your facilities what you wish. It is not for anyone to tell you what to do , > > > > > > > you are a grown up. I'm sorry you are going through this. It sounds like > > > > > > > crap I go through at times with my nada and fada when they disagree how I > > > > > > > discipline my children. It is good that you talked to a lawyer. She can't > > > > > > > just kick you out anyway. She has a process by law she has to go through. I > > > > > > > would change the password and lock everyone out it would be fair that way. > > > > > > > Let your mom get her own internet if she is all that worried about it or let > > > > > > > your sister get her own service but not in your apartment. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~Velvet_Tears74~~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Whatever it takes..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: WTOAdultChildren1 > > > > > > > [mailto:WTOAdultChildren1 ] On Behalf Of > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 4:53 PM > > > > > > > To: WTOAdultChildren1 > > > > > > > Subject: Nada Wants Control Over MY Internet! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not talk on here much, I guess cause I have talked a lot of this out, > > > > > > > and pretty much there is nothing I can do. I rent an apartment from my Nada. > > > > > > > Long story short, I always have internet and when my sister moved out of > > > > > > > Nada's home, I offered to share my internet with her. Than My other sister > > > > > > > moved in with her two kids. I offered to be nice and share the internet with > > > > > > > them as well, but told them different things like they were not allowed to > > > > > > > download anything without asking. It is limited bandwidth, and since it is > > > > > > > my internet I come first. I would also tell them not to many computers can > > > > > > > be connected to the internet at the same time, due again with bandwidth. > > > > > > > They have broken these rules over and over again plus some others. Now it > > > > > > > seems all my sister kid's friends and my other nephews a nieces and their > > > > > > > friends all come over and have a big WiFi Party. Than of course they > > > > > > > complain tome on why they have a slow internet connection and why they are > > > > > > > lagging etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyway, my nephew is 13years old and going through those hard teenage years. > > > > > > > I spend a lot of time with him to try to keep him on track and be better > > > > > > > person than his older brother whom is in jail, and his 16 year old sister > > > > > > > that got pregnant and now has a baby. Of course I do not force him to do > > > > > > > anything, but try to get him involved in many volunteer activities that I do > > > > > > > with my church and lodge. Obviously being 13, not everything is always going > > > > > > > to be honky dory all of the time, and this is where we run into trouble. My > > > > > > > nephew has had temper tantrums, that almost became physical and I had to > > > > > > > kick him out of my house. My sister did nothing. As long as it does not > > > > > > > effect here, she really doe snot care about anything really. Of course when > > > > > > > he mouths off or is disrespectful to her or to my nada, she does do > > > > > > > something, which most of the time is very minor, for she does not want to > > > > > > > deal with being the bad person. Instead she calls me, like to make him stay > > > > > > > in his room etc, and I refused and said i will not be your bully for hire. > > > > > > > Unless you are under physical threat i will not intervene. Of course when he > > > > > > > mouths or disrespects me, I try to talk to my sister and pretty much comes > > > > > > > up this this whole. thing that he got punished already, cause he was upset > > > > > > > etc. I said Zi did not think it was good enough and felt she needed to draw > > > > > > > boundaries for his negative actions, or he will think nothing negative will > > > > > > > happen to him, and will not be held accountable. I recommended that i turn > > > > > > > off the internet to his computer for a day or so as punishment. She said she > > > > > > > would do it not I. I did not understand for I said it is my internet, and if > > > > > > > he disrespects me I have every right not to go out of my way to share with > > > > > > > him. She disagreed. I id not trust myself, and talked to my therapists about > > > > > > > this. They thought my sister was nuts trying ti dictate who I offered my > > > > > > > internet service to or not. They said I was in my right to cut it off to > > > > > > > anyone. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok trying to make this short, so leaving a lot out, but first two times I > > > > > > > let it go, and my sister did nothing. Anyway a third incident happened, and > > > > > > > I complained to her, she need nothing punishment wise and of course he > > > > > > > disrespected me even more. Now she calls me off two days ago and asks if I > > > > > > > can turn off the internet for my nephew, cause he was getting mouthy with > > > > > > > her and my Nada. At first I agreed to so this, but felt uncomfortable, so i > > > > > > > thought about it. I realized i felt uncomfortable cause she was using me to > > > > > > > be the bad guy again cause she could not control her son, but did not allow > > > > > > > me shut off my own internet when he disrespected me on the same day. The > > > > > > > next day she asked for me to turn it back on, and i told her we needed to > > > > > > > talk. I said I felt uncomfortable rewarding my nephew by giving him access > > > > > > > to my internet, when he never even apologized or thinks his disrespect for > > > > > > > me was nothing wrong. I was very calm, she got mad and when we start to try > > > > > > > to discuss it further, she said she did not want to argue and hung up. Than > > > > > > > my Nada came upstairs and pretend to be nice, but pretty much threatened me > > > > > > > with everything such as kicking me out of my apartment, taking my air > > > > > > > conditioner away, cause she does not want to pay the electricity, and taking > > > > > > > away my cable which was part of my rental package. I told her sternly if you > > > > > > > do any of these things I will fight you, and we will be in court for months, > > > > > > > and in the mean time will not pay your rent and instead put it in a savings > > > > > > > account until this is settled, if she decided to back up her threats. She > > > > > > > started screaming at me, especially when I said I had contacted a lawyer and > > > > > > > asked about all the settings and my rights. She asked me why i would do > > > > > > > that, and i said because i did not trust her and anytime I do not do as she > > > > > > > says or wants she threatens to kick me out among many other things, and > > > > > > > tries to make my life miserable. I said I needed to protect myself from her. > > > > > > > I also told her I recorded our conversation in my apartment, so that it was > > > > > > > on record of her threatening me. When i said did it surprised her and she > > > > > > > tried not to say anymore and left in a huff. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now it has become a war that start with one person not has three teaming up > > > > > > > against me. So much so that I got stranded and could not even get jump, even > > > > > > > though they still both had internet access despite everything that happened. > > > > > > > I said that was really wrong, for no matter if i was angry at them or not I > > > > > > > never left them stranded if they ran out of gas, needed a jumps etc. I said > > > > > > > you took a small thing became involved in something that was none of your > > > > > > > business and made it into a war. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I found out why my nada was really mad. She had promised my nephew that if > > > > > > > he did certain things for her to make up for his disrespect, he would allow > > > > > > > him to use her internet. i was shocked. my sisters says I can not have any > > > > > > > control over who I allow access to my internet that I pay for, but than > > > > > > > allows my mother to, and plus my mother lies and tells my nephew she owns it > > > > > > > and controls it. So i feel even bad for him, because he is all confused, and > > > > > > > when he asked me I told him this was not true, and why is it I that pays the > > > > > > > bills, and also why do I have control over it, and why does it come from my > > > > > > > house from my phone line. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am sorry for the many errors but I am trying to write this fast for I am > > > > > > > very upset and feel at siege in my own apartment with my own stuff. I knew > > > > > > > this was going to happen, from my nada's past behaviors, but do I continue > > > > > > > to allow her to have her way, and bully me around? I know maybe I should > > > > > > > move, but it makes no difference, for than i would be very lonely, and i am > > > > > > > disabled and many times need help. I have lived alone in one city for over > > > > > > > 13 years and it was very hard. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 Again thank you for the wonderful comments. I am just tired of getting so attached for some BS like this to happen and destroy me emotionally. I do not cry in front of them for I am a man and embarrassed, so if they cry they forget all the attention they want, like I do not hurt inside and can't sleep. Now due to his Nada and Mother's lies, he does not want to speak to me anymore, even though I still allowed him to use my internet. GF This pretty much happens with a lot of things, and thus why usually I do pick my battles, and usually just walk away, cause I know my Nada will go off the deep end and make something small into a big war. it is funny and sick at the same time, but when I walk away realizing my Nada is going over, she yells and talks to herself when I am already upstairs. Of course I know this cause I can hear her as I walk away or the mumbles and seem to make out every vulgar word in the book. I am angry, and hurt and tired. i was very close to my nephew and he said some some very rotten things to me. What can I do. Cry myself to sleep, swallow it, and pretend it never happened to get on with my life right? if only they knew, but they are to busy trying to get revenge to even notice. i want revenge I admit, but i do not act on them, but the feelings are still there, and I want those bad emotions to leave me. My nephew does not understand why I tell him it his duty to volunteer and help others out. I run a charity program that makes Safety ID Kits for all ages to help find them if they are lost or kidnapped. I got him involved in hoping to make him a better person and look outside himself to others, and no always think about what he can get with games, internet etc. But without his mother backing it up, just says if he acts out do not bring him, instead of correcting his bad behavior. So in other words, if he acts up he gets out of everything, because she just does not want to deal with it. Just sleep and cry it away and hope to let it go for the next day. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is a shame that this has to happen over such a petty reason, but it looks > > > > > > > > to me like they are all just pulling your strings. I feel that you have to > > > > > > > > have boundaries. If you are paying the bills you have the right to do with > > > > > > > > your facilities what you wish. It is not for anyone to tell you what to do , > > > > > > > > you are a grown up. I'm sorry you are going through this. It sounds like > > > > > > > > crap I go through at times with my nada and fada when they disagree how I > > > > > > > > discipline my children. It is good that you talked to a lawyer. She can't > > > > > > > > just kick you out anyway. She has a process by law she has to go through. I > > > > > > > > would change the password and lock everyone out it would be fair that way. > > > > > > > > Let your mom get her own internet if she is all that worried about it or let > > > > > > > > your sister get her own service but not in your apartment. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~Velvet_Tears74~~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Whatever it takes..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: WTOAdultChildren1 > > > > > > > > [mailto:WTOAdultChildren1 ] On Behalf Of > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 4:53 PM > > > > > > > > To: WTOAdultChildren1 > > > > > > > > Subject: Nada Wants Control Over MY Internet! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not talk on here much, I guess cause I have talked a lot of this out, > > > > > > > > and pretty much there is nothing I can do. I rent an apartment from my Nada. > > > > > > > > Long story short, I always have internet and when my sister moved out of > > > > > > > > Nada's home, I offered to share my internet with her. Than My other sister > > > > > > > > moved in with her two kids. I offered to be nice and share the internet with > > > > > > > > them as well, but told them different things like they were not allowed to > > > > > > > > download anything without asking. It is limited bandwidth, and since it is > > > > > > > > my internet I come first. I would also tell them not to many computers can > > > > > > > > be connected to the internet at the same time, due again with bandwidth. > > > > > > > > They have broken these rules over and over again plus some others. Now it > > > > > > > > seems all my sister kid's friends and my other nephews a nieces and their > > > > > > > > friends all come over and have a big WiFi Party. Than of course they > > > > > > > > complain tome on why they have a slow internet connection and why they are > > > > > > > > lagging etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyway, my nephew is 13years old and going through those hard teenage years. > > > > > > > > I spend a lot of time with him to try to keep him on track and be better > > > > > > > > person than his older brother whom is in jail, and his 16 year old sister > > > > > > > > that got pregnant and now has a baby. Of course I do not force him to do > > > > > > > > anything, but try to get him involved in many volunteer activities that I do > > > > > > > > with my church and lodge. Obviously being 13, not everything is always going > > > > > > > > to be honky dory all of the time, and this is where we run into trouble. My > > > > > > > > nephew has had temper tantrums, that almost became physical and I had to > > > > > > > > kick him out of my house. My sister did nothing. As long as it does not > > > > > > > > effect here, she really doe snot care about anything really. Of course when > > > > > > > > he mouths off or is disrespectful to her or to my nada, she does do > > > > > > > > something, which most of the time is very minor, for she does not want to > > > > > > > > deal with being the bad person. Instead she calls me, like to make him stay > > > > > > > > in his room etc, and I refused and said i will not be your bully for hire. > > > > > > > > Unless you are under physical threat i will not intervene. Of course when he > > > > > > > > mouths or disrespects me, I try to talk to my sister and pretty much comes > > > > > > > > up this this whole. thing that he got punished already, cause he was upset > > > > > > > > etc. I said Zi did not think it was good enough and felt she needed to draw > > > > > > > > boundaries for his negative actions, or he will think nothing negative will > > > > > > > > happen to him, and will not be held accountable. I recommended that i turn > > > > > > > > off the internet to his computer for a day or so as punishment. She said she > > > > > > > > would do it not I. I did not understand for I said it is my internet, and if > > > > > > > > he disrespects me I have every right not to go out of my way to share with > > > > > > > > him. She disagreed. I id not trust myself, and talked to my therapists about > > > > > > > > this. They thought my sister was nuts trying ti dictate who I offered my > > > > > > > > internet service to or not. They said I was in my right to cut it off to > > > > > > > > anyone. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok trying to make this short, so leaving a lot out, but first two times I > > > > > > > > let it go, and my sister did nothing. Anyway a third incident happened, and > > > > > > > > I complained to her, she need nothing punishment wise and of course he > > > > > > > > disrespected me even more. Now she calls me off two days ago and asks if I > > > > > > > > can turn off the internet for my nephew, cause he was getting mouthy with > > > > > > > > her and my Nada. At first I agreed to so this, but felt uncomfortable, so i > > > > > > > > thought about it. I realized i felt uncomfortable cause she was using me to > > > > > > > > be the bad guy again cause she could not control her son, but did not allow > > > > > > > > me shut off my own internet when he disrespected me on the same day. The > > > > > > > > next day she asked for me to turn it back on, and i told her we needed to > > > > > > > > talk. I said I felt uncomfortable rewarding my nephew by giving him access > > > > > > > > to my internet, when he never even apologized or thinks his disrespect for > > > > > > > > me was nothing wrong. I was very calm, she got mad and when we start to try > > > > > > > > to discuss it further, she said she did not want to argue and hung up. Than > > > > > > > > my Nada came upstairs and pretend to be nice, but pretty much threatened me > > > > > > > > with everything such as kicking me out of my apartment, taking my air > > > > > > > > conditioner away, cause she does not want to pay the electricity, and taking > > > > > > > > away my cable which was part of my rental package. I told her sternly if you > > > > > > > > do any of these things I will fight you, and we will be in court for months, > > > > > > > > and in the mean time will not pay your rent and instead put it in a savings > > > > > > > > account until this is settled, if she decided to back up her threats. She > > > > > > > > started screaming at me, especially when I said I had contacted a lawyer and > > > > > > > > asked about all the settings and my rights. She asked me why i would do > > > > > > > > that, and i said because i did not trust her and anytime I do not do as she > > > > > > > > says or wants she threatens to kick me out among many other things, and > > > > > > > > tries to make my life miserable. I said I needed to protect myself from her. > > > > > > > > I also told her I recorded our conversation in my apartment, so that it was > > > > > > > > on record of her threatening me. When i said did it surprised her and she > > > > > > > > tried not to say anymore and left in a huff. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now it has become a war that start with one person not has three teaming up > > > > > > > > against me. So much so that I got stranded and could not even get jump, even > > > > > > > > though they still both had internet access despite everything that happened. > > > > > > > > I said that was really wrong, for no matter if i was angry at them or not I > > > > > > > > never left them stranded if they ran out of gas, needed a jumps etc. I said > > > > > > > > you took a small thing became involved in something that was none of your > > > > > > > > business and made it into a war. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I found out why my nada was really mad. She had promised my nephew that if > > > > > > > > he did certain things for her to make up for his disrespect, he would allow > > > > > > > > him to use her internet. i was shocked. my sisters says I can not have any > > > > > > > > control over who I allow access to my internet that I pay for, but than > > > > > > > > allows my mother to, and plus my mother lies and tells my nephew she owns it > > > > > > > > and controls it. So i feel even bad for him, because he is all confused, and > > > > > > > > when he asked me I told him this was not true, and why is it I that pays the > > > > > > > > bills, and also why do I have control over it, and why does it come from my > > > > > > > > house from my phone line. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am sorry for the many errors but I am trying to write this fast for I am > > > > > > > > very upset and feel at siege in my own apartment with my own stuff. I knew > > > > > > > > this was going to happen, from my nada's past behaviors, but do I continue > > > > > > > > to allow her to have her way, and bully me around? I know maybe I should > > > > > > > > move, but it makes no difference, for than i would be very lonely, and i am > > > > > > > > disabled and many times need help. I have lived alone in one city for over > > > > > > > > 13 years and it was very hard. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2011 Report Share Posted July 15, 2011 It's hard I know...because you can see the big picture and the little kid cannot. I am in a group on yahoo for codependency and they send me meditations every day and i honestly think I feel more peaceful reading those than any other point in the day. it just grounds me in the moment, and gives me a breather to really think about what I am feeling and how I am reacting to the people around me. it's important not to take the kids' behavior personally because their brains have not developed. It is definitely helpful to cry and let it out. I hope you will keep posting and getting the support and validation that you need here, and maybe explore some books and groups on codependency too...I say that because they seem to help me in the situation of 'what can you do when you can't do anything', in other words, it somehow heals me a bit to read that stuff when I am frazzled and frustrated, somehow it gives me a bit of my peace back. Hugs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is a shame that this has to happen over such a petty reason, but it looks > > > > > > > > > to me like they are all just pulling your strings. I feel that you have to > > > > > > > > > have boundaries. If you are paying the bills you have the right to do with > > > > > > > > > your facilities what you wish. It is not for anyone to tell you what to do , > > > > > > > > > you are a grown up. I'm sorry you are going through this. It sounds like > > > > > > > > > crap I go through at times with my nada and fada when they disagree how I > > > > > > > > > discipline my children. It is good that you talked to a lawyer. She can't > > > > > > > > > just kick you out anyway. She has a process by law she has to go through. I > > > > > > > > > would change the password and lock everyone out it would be fair that way. > > > > > > > > > Let your mom get her own internet if she is all that worried about it or let > > > > > > > > > your sister get her own service but not in your apartment. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~Velvet_Tears74~~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Whatever it takes..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: WTOAdultChildren1 > > > > > > > > > [mailto:WTOAdultChildren1 ] On Behalf Of > > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 4:53 PM > > > > > > > > > To: WTOAdultChildren1 > > > > > > > > > Subject: Nada Wants Control Over MY Internet! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not talk on here much, I guess cause I have talked a lot of this out, > > > > > > > > > and pretty much there is nothing I can do. I rent an apartment from my Nada. > > > > > > > > > Long story short, I always have internet and when my sister moved out of > > > > > > > > > Nada's home, I offered to share my internet with her. Than My other sister > > > > > > > > > moved in with her two kids. I offered to be nice and share the internet with > > > > > > > > > them as well, but told them different things like they were not allowed to > > > > > > > > > download anything without asking. It is limited bandwidth, and since it is > > > > > > > > > my internet I come first. I would also tell them not to many computers can > > > > > > > > > be connected to the internet at the same time, due again with bandwidth. > > > > > > > > > They have broken these rules over and over again plus some others. Now it > > > > > > > > > seems all my sister kid's friends and my other nephews a nieces and their > > > > > > > > > friends all come over and have a big WiFi Party. Than of course they > > > > > > > > > complain tome on why they have a slow internet connection and why they are > > > > > > > > > lagging etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyway, my nephew is 13years old and going through those hard teenage years. > > > > > > > > > I spend a lot of time with him to try to keep him on track and be better > > > > > > > > > person than his older brother whom is in jail, and his 16 year old sister > > > > > > > > > that got pregnant and now has a baby. Of course I do not force him to do > > > > > > > > > anything, but try to get him involved in many volunteer activities that I do > > > > > > > > > with my church and lodge. Obviously being 13, not everything is always going > > > > > > > > > to be honky dory all of the time, and this is where we run into trouble. My > > > > > > > > > nephew has had temper tantrums, that almost became physical and I had to > > > > > > > > > kick him out of my house. My sister did nothing. As long as it does not > > > > > > > > > effect here, she really doe snot care about anything really. Of course when > > > > > > > > > he mouths off or is disrespectful to her or to my nada, she does do > > > > > > > > > something, which most of the time is very minor, for she does not want to > > > > > > > > > deal with being the bad person. Instead she calls me, like to make him stay > > > > > > > > > in his room etc, and I refused and said i will not be your bully for hire. > > > > > > > > > Unless you are under physical threat i will not intervene. Of course when he > > > > > > > > > mouths or disrespects me, I try to talk to my sister and pretty much comes > > > > > > > > > up this this whole. thing that he got punished already, cause he was upset > > > > > > > > > etc. I said Zi did not think it was good enough and felt she needed to draw > > > > > > > > > boundaries for his negative actions, or he will think nothing negative will > > > > > > > > > happen to him, and will not be held accountable. I recommended that i turn > > > > > > > > > off the internet to his computer for a day or so as punishment. She said she > > > > > > > > > would do it not I. I did not understand for I said it is my internet, and if > > > > > > > > > he disrespects me I have every right not to go out of my way to share with > > > > > > > > > him. She disagreed. I id not trust myself, and talked to my therapists about > > > > > > > > > this. They thought my sister was nuts trying ti dictate who I offered my > > > > > > > > > internet service to or not. They said I was in my right to cut it off to > > > > > > > > > anyone. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok trying to make this short, so leaving a lot out, but first two times I > > > > > > > > > let it go, and my sister did nothing. Anyway a third incident happened, and > > > > > > > > > I complained to her, she need nothing punishment wise and of course he > > > > > > > > > disrespected me even more. Now she calls me off two days ago and asks if I > > > > > > > > > can turn off the internet for my nephew, cause he was getting mouthy with > > > > > > > > > her and my Nada. At first I agreed to so this, but felt uncomfortable, so i > > > > > > > > > thought about it. I realized i felt uncomfortable cause she was using me to > > > > > > > > > be the bad guy again cause she could not control her son, but did not allow > > > > > > > > > me shut off my own internet when he disrespected me on the same day. The > > > > > > > > > next day she asked for me to turn it back on, and i told her we needed to > > > > > > > > > talk. I said I felt uncomfortable rewarding my nephew by giving him access > > > > > > > > > to my internet, when he never even apologized or thinks his disrespect for > > > > > > > > > me was nothing wrong. I was very calm, she got mad and when we start to try > > > > > > > > > to discuss it further, she said she did not want to argue and hung up. Than > > > > > > > > > my Nada came upstairs and pretend to be nice, but pretty much threatened me > > > > > > > > > with everything such as kicking me out of my apartment, taking my air > > > > > > > > > conditioner away, cause she does not want to pay the electricity, and taking > > > > > > > > > away my cable which was part of my rental package. I told her sternly if you > > > > > > > > > do any of these things I will fight you, and we will be in court for months, > > > > > > > > > and in the mean time will not pay your rent and instead put it in a savings > > > > > > > > > account until this is settled, if she decided to back up her threats. She > > > > > > > > > started screaming at me, especially when I said I had contacted a lawyer and > > > > > > > > > asked about all the settings and my rights. She asked me why i would do > > > > > > > > > that, and i said because i did not trust her and anytime I do not do as she > > > > > > > > > says or wants she threatens to kick me out among many other things, and > > > > > > > > > tries to make my life miserable. I said I needed to protect myself from her. > > > > > > > > > I also told her I recorded our conversation in my apartment, so that it was > > > > > > > > > on record of her threatening me. When i said did it surprised her and she > > > > > > > > > tried not to say anymore and left in a huff. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now it has become a war that start with one person not has three teaming up > > > > > > > > > against me. So much so that I got stranded and could not even get jump, even > > > > > > > > > though they still both had internet access despite everything that happened. > > > > > > > > > I said that was really wrong, for no matter if i was angry at them or not I > > > > > > > > > never left them stranded if they ran out of gas, needed a jumps etc. I said > > > > > > > > > you took a small thing became involved in something that was none of your > > > > > > > > > business and made it into a war. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I found out why my nada was really mad. She had promised my nephew that if > > > > > > > > > he did certain things for her to make up for his disrespect, he would allow > > > > > > > > > him to use her internet. i was shocked. my sisters says I can not have any > > > > > > > > > control over who I allow access to my internet that I pay for, but than > > > > > > > > > allows my mother to, and plus my mother lies and tells my nephew she owns it > > > > > > > > > and controls it. So i feel even bad for him, because he is all confused, and > > > > > > > > > when he asked me I told him this was not true, and why is it I that pays the > > > > > > > > > bills, and also why do I have control over it, and why does it come from my > > > > > > > > > house from my phone line. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am sorry for the many errors but I am trying to write this fast for I am > > > > > > > > > very upset and feel at siege in my own apartment with my own stuff. I knew > > > > > > > > > this was going to happen, from my nada's past behaviors, but do I continue > > > > > > > > > to allow her to have her way, and bully me around? I know maybe I should > > > > > > > > > move, but it makes no difference, for than i would be very lonely, and i am > > > > > > > > > disabled and many times need help. I have lived alone in one city for over > > > > > > > > > 13 years and it was very hard. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 TY you for that nice long response. It somewhat helps, even though many of you are so far away. I feel very alone and this seems one of my only ways to vent and stay somewhat sane. its seems I cannot complain to anyone in the real life as I said before. I am copying and pasting an e-ma my nada has sent to me, and my reply to get some kind of feed back of am I freaking crazy here??? I have changed my sisters and nephews names and only put a letter to identify them. i know a lot of it is misspelled incorrect grammar, but I am busy and am not always detailed oriented unless it is for an article for the newspaper etc. if you have any questions of the meaning of any of it, please ask. " Nada, Who are you kidding now? I knew you would twist this around, and that is why i recorded you. You came up here and started threatening me. I only said the things I did as a response to your threats as a way to defend myself. It was none of your business, but like always you bud in and make it worse. You guys have taken something very petty and minor and made it into a war. Behind my back, you and M (sister) made this plan for J (nephew) to do things for you and you would allow him on your internet?? Really your internet? So you lied to J (nephew) got him all confused, and of course directed him to me to be the bad guy because both of you ganged up on me with lies and manipulation. You came upstairs called me names, put me down and threatened me. Deny it as much as you want for I have it recorded. You never came upstairs to talk to me only to tell me what to do with MY Internet. Let's get something straight. You never had any rights to the internet. Yes you and I made an agreement to share my internet service and you would allow me the upgrade to the extended digital cable. Why do you think I asked you for the cable box, because I had no ability to have access to the extended digital cable channels without a box, and I told you that. I left it alone for I know it would be a big argument, with you twisting things around. You wanted me to pay $10 a month for something we already agreed on and I was doing my part in sharing my internet for free without getting anything in return. Even than I did not want to make that agreement, because you twist it around to control everything, or back out of your promise, just like you did with my apartment and Videography business. I originally offered you the internet and that you could pay me for half of the expenses. That is when you brought up the cable, that I was already getting as part of my apartment rent. I did not want the agreement, but did so under distress as I knew if I disagreed with it you would try to find a way to shut off my cable. I found out later after talking to a lawyer, that you had no right to shut off my cable or change it as it was when I first moved in, as it was now part of my rent. I had to talk to a lawyer to protect myself, because just you tend to get mad at me or we do not agree, you try to take everything away from me out of revenge and control. Just like delaying and giving me lots of trouble in bringing up my clothes from downstairs. I needed to protect myself from you. As I have said, since you broke your agreement in the beginning, and it was not a legal agreement anyway since you had no right to use the cable as a bargaining chip as you did, I had acknowledged through out that it was MY internet. Than M (sister) and her kids came in and everyone was using the internet including neighbors without permission. I had said that outside people not living there needed permission before using it, but that rule was broken as well. I had said many times that when anyone downloaded they need to ask and tell me about it. I also said how many people needed to be on the internet at the same time. Of course no one listened and continuously broke these rules, and did as they wanted even when I complained many times. I even went so far to be nice and pay for more bandwidth on the cable. Obviously no one appreciated it, broke the rules, told me what I could do with my internet etc. J (nephew) disrespected me in the past, and nothing was done, and I even said I was going to take the internet away. I tried my best to work with M (sister), but it became obvious that she only cared if she got disrespected or you if you made a big enough fuss about it. Than you guys lied to him and used my internet for leverage against him without even talking to me about it first.?? I know J (nephew) is going through a difficult age, and I do acknowledge it, but he needs boundaries, for M (sister) has not done a thing to him about the other times he grossly disrespected me. I had already talked to her about the internet, and she told me it was not my right, which I knew it was but talked to others in therapy about to check myself. They thought what M (sister) said was wrong and controlling. Why should I go out of my way for J (nephew), when he acts the way he does and has left me more than once holding the bag over nothing?? You say J (nephew) is 13 years old, but you are going to listen to his Version of events? It does not tell the whole story and fibs quite often, just like his mother. As far as posting on J's (nephew) wall, I only did it once. J (nephew) said the same thing to me and said J (nephew) when have i ever did that on your wall except for the one time when you posted out of anger an extremely inappropriate music video talking about bitches and hoes etc. Where did he even see this video before? I am sure glad someone is keeping an eye on it besides me??? I did post that I was disappointed that he thought of women that way, that the video was inappropriate and he should remove it. Of course he did not listen and just deleted my comment, so I called M (sister) and told her, and than the video was deleted immediately. Of course J (nephew) was still allowed on the internet and than deleted me, his Aunt Je (sister), and his Mother as friends, thinking he had rights to privacy on Facebook away from his elders at only 13 years of age. So I posted once about his inappropriate behavior, and it becomes I do it all the time??? it is easy enough to verify even if the comments were deleted for it would show up in e-mails. Where is the proof? There is of course none, because it is not true. It is also nice for you to lie as well Nada. Who are these people that have deleted me as a friend from Facebook? So you listened to through the grapevine rumor mills and negative gossip and take it as Gospel truth??? Who are these people that have deleted me as a friend, because of interfering in their posts etc??? I would like to know. None, not a single one except for Je (sister) only because I deleted her posts and banned her from posting on my wall because I did not want to argue with her anymore online or in real Life over stupid stuff. So where are you fact Mom? if anything some people go out of their way to actually harass me on my own Facebook wall?? Do you talk about them? And even than I do not delete their posts unless they are vulgar in nature. I have you even seen his sister's posts on her Facebook page or his brother?? All she talks about is Fing this, bitches, hoes, sluts, sex etc. So she is a a fantastic role model for J (nephew), and of course he is picking right up on it and no one does a thing. Why does no one do a thing, because he lives in a home of constant vulgar language that he gets 24 7 from you and M (sister). he sure does not get it from me, cause i rarely swear if at all, and do my best to curb my language in all situations. I also do not allow any of that vulgar stuff on my Facebook Wall because I take responsibility for my actions and being a role model for my nephew and younger cousins. it is completely irresponsible for those that do swear on Facebook, especially if they have younger people as friends. I do not even post inappropriate videos or jokes as well. Are you flipping kidding me!!! I beat you??? Wow you are completely insane Nada. I never in my life ever beat you, and obviously you are running out of things to try to control me with so you make this story up, and tell people this??? i have done a lot of things in my life including breaking things out of anger, even getting into fights with my sisters when I was very young, but I never beat you ever!!! The only time I even touched you was at Christmas one year when I was about 12 or 13 years old and you slapped me across the face, I than pushed you and told you I had enough of you hitting me and that you would never put a hand on me again from that day forward. That is the ONLY time I ever touched you out of anger, ever. I can not believe you would come up with such an outrageous lie such as that. You sincerely need help.it is like you telling me I do not have a right to ask and/or tell other people what I do not want sent to me in my e-mail. That is complete craziness. I also never threatened M (sister) about her air conditioner. Again I have the whole thing recorded, so you are just making stuff up and crazy. What I did say, is that you promised me two air conditioners, since you sold my brand new one without my permission. This was quite awhile ago and you never delivered on your promise. Instead i got one that I am even sure works for why do I got two running and it is still 80 degree up here? Also when you came up here that was towards the evening and it was 75 degrees or over with two air conditioners on. I normally would turn off the one air conditioner when it cooled down, but now with this heat wave I have to leave both of them on continuously. It has been a constant 80 degree and up in here and even now at 4:45pm I am sweating doing nothing with both of them on. YOu continuously put me down and accuse me of taken advantage. i can do nothing to please you, even though i am always turning off and on lights that I do not use or when I walk out of a room. I would replace all of my bulbs with fluorescent, but frankly I can not afford to. The only light I have on continuously intil i got tot be is my living room one that is fluorescent. You talk about my computer being on all the time. I am glad you say the same thing to M (sister) and J (nephew)??? They hardly ever shut theirs off, only put them to sleep. I am glad that you single me out even though I do shut my down when I leave my apartment or when i go to bed. I need it on when i am home for I am on it constantly for all the work I do, I need to have it on for e-mails etc, You only go on once in awhile, so obviously it is fine for you to turn yours off, for you do not use it much. As far as the duck tape, you are the one that told me to put it on to seal up the cracks etc to help make it more efficient. I am the one that told you it left behind a residue. So again you are changing things around, when i was the one that was concerned and told you, but you never gave me any other method of sealing the air and keeping the bees and bugs out. Both yours and M's (sister) internet was taken away because of what you both did to J (nephew) after I find out more details, and because both of you left me stranded, but you do not take revenge especially when someone is stranded and needs to go to an important meeting for the Masonic Safety ID?? So in you trying to hurt and punish me you hurt a charity. Good for you. That is when i turned both of your internet off, before that i still gave both for your access even though how you both treated me and even with you threatening me calling me names and putting me down. even than I put J's (nephew) internet back on even though I knew he was STEALING it from other sources. I told him that I did not think it was right for him to be double punished just because his Meremere and Mother were mad at me. I told him he needed to fix things, which he said he would do, but did not. You both let him down not I. I have been a role model for him and have went out of my way to do many things for him, even trying to make him a better person by showing him is duty to do charity for others, so he would stop thinking about himself, and think of others instead. You both let him down, because you made me the enemy and expressed that to him by lying to him. All I did is call M (sister) and explained that i felt uncomfortable turning on his internet for he did not understand what he did wrong or apologized to anyone, and felt he needed to be punished and boundaries set. M (sister) pretty much said she did not want to argue and hung up the phone. I tired to talk it out, she did not. She is ultimately responble for what happened, for I was not 100% going to turn off the internet and was talking to her about how I felt. I had no choice after she hung up the phone, so she needs to take responsibility to that. i did my part in trying to corporate, but it seems no one wanted to corporate with me even though it was MY internet. Strange isn't it? You guys took something small such asme turning off the internet for at least jsut one day, and made it worse and made it into a war instead of talking to me or trying to corporate as I did with M (sister). I do not believe you love me and you have proved that over and over in our actions like when you lied to the police that i entered your home. That is why they arrested me and took me to jail you know. I denied that charge and it was dropped. now you say you never said that or told me that, even though it states that in the police report??? it does not matter if you are given facts and proof you still lie and manipulate. Like telling me I never paid you a loan payment, and I went out of my way to look it up and said you cashed the check. That was not enough for you and you still denied I pad you, so I went further and asked the costumer service to please send me a copy of the check with your signature to me and to you, and they were even nice enough to call you and explain that you indeed did get paid and cashed the check,. What did you do, hid from the phone like a child and made some lame excuse for not answering it. Did you apologize for that or for any of the bad things you have done to me? i have spent my life time apologizing to you for things I did and even things I did not do just to appease you. i was told that I was enabling your bad behavior and should not do that anymore. No, I do not believe you love me, you know why, because you will not seek help and go to therapy. You had chances to go before but always get out of it because of some lame excuse. Why am I the only one that has gone, when all of you have a responsibility in the over state of things in our immediate family? If you truly loved me, you would humble yourself to seek good therapy for your problems, to make our family better. That is what I am doing and have been dong for a long time, to improve myself and improve my relationship with others. I do it for myself, and do it for others that I love, because I actually really love them and willing to humble myself for them, despite al the threats, harassment, name calling, put downs etc. You both created this mess not I, you guys fix it and make it right. , I'm only sending you this because I'm your mother and as such, I will always try with you, because I love you wether you acknowledge it or not. I recently tried to solve the conflict between you and J (Nephew) and I shouldn't have stepped in, but my intention's were good. I came to talk to you about it, and you started in on other things and then turned it around, saying I started it, when you are always bringing other things into the conversation and I'm always put on the defense answering them. You seem to forget how you were at 13. There was no controlling you and you even beat on me or did you forget that. I'm bringing this up, to make you realize that Jermine is going through a very difficult age. You seem to forget that. I agree with your observations, yet you still have to give his mother the right to take care of it. J (nephew) thought of you as his friend, not his father and you let him down. He at least asked you what he did wrong. The kids look up to you and you are losing that by acting uncompassionate. The kids have gone out of their way for you and I know you have for them, yet you seem to forget the age difference. The more you demand respect, the more you won't get it. Respect comes from example. You feel you have the right to preach to everyone on Facebook which I know that is why you have been deleted alot. You may feel you have that right, but it doesn't make it right. If you have something to say, you should have the courage to say it to someone, in private, in a nice way. J(nephew) didn't want to be embarrassed by you on Facebook. KIds do not want imput from grownups, they want to talk to their friends. You act like Big Brother on Facebook. Also, who is playing games now? You cut my internet off, which by the way did me a favor because they had a new package for my phone so I really got it for free, I will not get back at you, because I don't try to get back. Stop always thinking about your rights, and start thinking of others. I love you , but you are so focus on respect and I think it's because you don't really love and respect yourself. Start with that, then the respect from others won't be so important and it will come to you without you trying so hard. Also, what about you threatening M about her air conditioner. You can ask her nicely, but you don't have the right to keep it. M has agreed to let you keep hers and I gave her another one. Also you should not be using duck tape on the window because you can't get the residue off. You were suppose to use a stick to keep it in. When I was up there you seem to think that 73 was too hot, yet down here hasn't been less than 78-80 degrees. We try to keep the conditioners off, yet you run them both continuously. Were here to work together, not focus on our rights, but to do what's right. Love, Mom " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is a shame that this has to happen over such a petty reason, but it looks > > > > > > > > to me like they are all just pulling your strings. I feel that you have to > > > > > > > > have boundaries. If you are paying the bills you have the right to do with > > > > > > > > your facilities what you wish. It is not for anyone to tell you what to do , > > > > > > > > you are a grown up. I'm sorry you are going through this. It sounds like > > > > > > > > crap I go through at times with my nada and fada when they disagree how I > > > > > > > > discipline my children. It is good that you talked to a lawyer. She can't > > > > > > > > just kick you out anyway. She has a process by law she has to go through. I > > > > > > > > would change the password and lock everyone out it would be fair that way. > > > > > > > > Let your mom get her own internet if she is all that worried about it or let > > > > > > > > your sister get her own service but not in your apartment. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~Velvet_Tears74~~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Whatever it takes..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: WTOAdultChildren1 > > > > > > > > [mailto:WTOAdultChildren1 ] On Behalf Of > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 4:53 PM > > > > > > > > To: WTOAdultChildren1 > > > > > > > > Subject: Nada Wants Control Over MY Internet! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not talk on here much, I guess cause I have talked a lot of this out, > > > > > > > > and pretty much there is nothing I can do. I rent an apartment from my Nada. > > > > > > > > Long story short, I always have internet and when my sister moved out of > > > > > > > > Nada's home, I offered to share my internet with her. Than My other sister > > > > > > > > moved in with her two kids. I offered to be nice and share the internet with > > > > > > > > them as well, but told them different things like they were not allowed to > > > > > > > > download anything without asking. It is limited bandwidth, and since it is > > > > > > > > my internet I come first. I would also tell them not to many computers can > > > > > > > > be connected to the internet at the same time, due again with bandwidth. > > > > > > > > They have broken these rules over and over again plus some others. Now it > > > > > > > > seems all my sister kid's friends and my other nephews a nieces and their > > > > > > > > friends all come over and have a big WiFi Party. Than of course they > > > > > > > > complain tome on why they have a slow internet connection and why they are > > > > > > > > lagging etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyway, my nephew is 13years old and going through those hard teenage years. > > > > > > > > I spend a lot of time with him to try to keep him on track and be better > > > > > > > > person than his older brother whom is in jail, and his 16 year old sister > > > > > > > > that got pregnant and now has a baby. Of course I do not force him to do > > > > > > > > anything, but try to get him involved in many volunteer activities that I do > > > > > > > > with my church and lodge. Obviously being 13, not everything is always going > > > > > > > > to be honky dory all of the time, and this is where we run into trouble. My > > > > > > > > nephew has had temper tantrums, that almost became physical and I had to > > > > > > > > kick him out of my house. My sister did nothing. As long as it does not > > > > > > > > effect here, she really doe snot care about anything really. Of course when > > > > > > > > he mouths off or is disrespectful to her or to my nada, she does do > > > > > > > > something, which most of the time is very minor, for she does not want to > > > > > > > > deal with being the bad person. Instead she calls me, like to make him stay > > > > > > > > in his room etc, and I refused and said i will not be your bully for hire. > > > > > > > > Unless you are under physical threat i will not intervene. Of course when he > > > > > > > > mouths or disrespects me, I try to talk to my sister and pretty much comes > > > > > > > > up this this whole. thing that he got punished already, cause he was upset > > > > > > > > etc. I said Zi did not think it was good enough and felt she needed to draw > > > > > > > > boundaries for his negative actions, or he will think nothing negative will > > > > > > > > happen to him, and will not be held accountable. I recommended that i turn > > > > > > > > off the internet to his computer for a day or so as punishment. She said she > > > > > > > > would do it not I. I did not understand for I said it is my internet, and if > > > > > > > > he disrespects me I have every right not to go out of my way to share with > > > > > > > > him. She disagreed. I id not trust myself, and talked to my therapists about > > > > > > > > this. They thought my sister was nuts trying ti dictate who I offered my > > > > > > > > internet service to or not. They said I was in my right to cut it off to > > > > > > > > anyone. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok trying to make this short, so leaving a lot out, but first two times I > > > > > > > > let it go, and my sister did nothing. Anyway a third incident happened, and > > > > > > > > I complained to her, she need nothing punishment wise and of course he > > > > > > > > disrespected me even more. Now she calls me off two days ago and asks if I > > > > > > > > can turn off the internet for my nephew, cause he was getting mouthy with > > > > > > > > her and my Nada. At first I agreed to so this, but felt uncomfortable, so i > > > > > > > > thought about it. I realized i felt uncomfortable cause she was using me to > > > > > > > > be the bad guy again cause she could not control her son, but did not allow > > > > > > > > me shut off my own internet when he disrespected me on the same day. The > > > > > > > > next day she asked for me to turn it back on, and i told her we needed to > > > > > > > > talk. I said I felt uncomfortable rewarding my nephew by giving him access > > > > > > > > to my internet, when he never even apologized or thinks his disrespect for > > > > > > > > me was nothing wrong. I was very calm, she got mad and when we start to try > > > > > > > > to discuss it further, she said she did not want to argue and hung up. Than > > > > > > > > my Nada came upstairs and pretend to be nice, but pretty much threatened me > > > > > > > > with everything such as kicking me out of my apartment, taking my air > > > > > > > > conditioner away, cause she does not want to pay the electricity, and taking > > > > > > > > away my cable which was part of my rental package. I told her sternly if you > > > > > > > > do any of these things I will fight you, and we will be in court for months, > > > > > > > > and in the mean time will not pay your rent and instead put it in a savings > > > > > > > > account until this is settled, if she decided to back up her threats. She > > > > > > > > started screaming at me, especially when I said I had contacted a lawyer and > > > > > > > > asked about all the settings and my rights. She asked me why i would do > > > > > > > > that, and i said because i did not trust her and anytime I do not do as she > > > > > > > > says or wants she threatens to kick me out among many other things, and > > > > > > > > tries to make my life miserable. I said I needed to protect myself from her. > > > > > > > > I also told her I recorded our conversation in my apartment, so that it was > > > > > > > > on record of her threatening me. When i said did it surprised her and she > > > > > > > > tried not to say anymore and left in a huff. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now it has become a war that start with one person not has three teaming up > > > > > > > > against me. So much so that I got stranded and could not even get jump, even > > > > > > > > though they still both had internet access despite everything that happened. > > > > > > > > I said that was really wrong, for no matter if i was angry at them or not I > > > > > > > > never left them stranded if they ran out of gas, needed a jumps etc. I said > > > > > > > > you took a small thing became involved in something that was none of your > > > > > > > > business and made it into a war. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I found out why my nada was really mad. She had promised my nephew that if > > > > > > > > he did certain things for her to make up for his disrespect, he would allow > > > > > > > > him to use her internet. i was shocked. my sisters says I can not have any > > > > > > > > control over who I allow access to my internet that I pay for, but than > > > > > > > > allows my mother to, and plus my mother lies and tells my nephew she owns it > > > > > > > > and controls it. So i feel even bad for him, because he is all confused, and > > > > > > > > when he asked me I told him this was not true, and why is it I that pays the > > > > > > > > bills, and also why do I have control over it, and why does it come from my > > > > > > > > house from my phone line. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am sorry for the many errors but I am trying to write this fast for I am > > > > > > > > very upset and feel at siege in my own apartment with my own stuff. I knew > > > > > > > > this was going to happen, from my nada's past behaviors, but do I continue > > > > > > > > to allow her to have her way, and bully me around? I know maybe I should > > > > > > > > move, but it makes no difference, for than i would be very lonely, and i am > > > > > > > > disabled and many times need help. I have lived alone in one city for over > > > > > > > > 13 years and it was very hard. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 Hi , thanks for your reply, that long post I had posted prior to the shorter one, the long one never showed up and went into the void and now it's back, how strange...yahoo just gets stranger and stranger. Your mother sounds so much like my mother, good grief. I don't think it's probably healthy for you to email back and forth with her. I feel hypocritical because I do email my nada on occasion when I get mad enough to spit nails which it sounds like you are. But they just spin and spin and spin and so on and so forth. I think mine has me blocked at this point. Yes, you need tons of support and validation here. Tons. I think the medium chill that someone posted is one of the few techniques for dealing with a borderline and still managing to keep your sanity. and the codependency books like 'codependent no more'. it just helps you step back and breath a bit. I always think of it like backing away from a rabid dog. you know the dog's brain is not functioning right, even though the dog is familiar, it's brain is messed up and it means you only harm. this is how I am going to have to look at my mother. it's very, very hard to do. and it's compounded by the fact that there are children involved in this situation, that you care about and relate to. is is very difficult and my heart really goes out to you. i know after a year of extreme frustration, to the point of exasperation, with this one, i am just having to take it back to the elemental level of what brings me peace in my mind. how am I feeling at this moment and what brings me peace in my mind. how are the thoughts I am thinking affecting my mind. the most helpful thing has been getting a therapist and just going in there and dumping ALL of the b.s. they say and do during the session. i barely even breathe for talking so much, and she encourages me to. having a sympathethic ear is so helpful. this board and she are life savers, mainly because they divert me from trying to have these rational communications with irrational people. the further along, the better I get at it. but because of the nature of the situation with children involved I just have to take it one day at a time. hugs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is a shame that this has to happen over such a petty reason, but it looks > > > > > > > > > to me like they are all just pulling your strings. I feel that you have to > > > > > > > > > have boundaries. If you are paying the bills you have the right to do with > > > > > > > > > your facilities what you wish. It is not for anyone to tell you what to do , > > > > > > > > > you are a grown up. I'm sorry you are going through this. It sounds like > > > > > > > > > crap I go through at times with my nada and fada when they disagree how I > > > > > > > > > discipline my children. It is good that you talked to a lawyer. She can't > > > > > > > > > just kick you out anyway. She has a process by law she has to go through. I > > > > > > > > > would change the password and lock everyone out it would be fair that way. > > > > > > > > > Let your mom get her own internet if she is all that worried about it or let > > > > > > > > > your sister get her own service but not in your apartment. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~Velvet_Tears74~~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Whatever it takes..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: WTOAdultChildren1 > > > > > > > > > [mailto:WTOAdultChildren1 ] On Behalf Of > > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 4:53 PM > > > > > > > > > To: WTOAdultChildren1 > > > > > > > > > Subject: Nada Wants Control Over MY Internet! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not talk on here much, I guess cause I have talked a lot of this out, > > > > > > > > > and pretty much there is nothing I can do. I rent an apartment from my Nada. > > > > > > > > > Long story short, I always have internet and when my sister moved out of > > > > > > > > > Nada's home, I offered to share my internet with her. Than My other sister > > > > > > > > > moved in with her two kids. I offered to be nice and share the internet with > > > > > > > > > them as well, but told them different things like they were not allowed to > > > > > > > > > download anything without asking. It is limited bandwidth, and since it is > > > > > > > > > my internet I come first. I would also tell them not to many computers can > > > > > > > > > be connected to the internet at the same time, due again with bandwidth. > > > > > > > > > They have broken these rules over and over again plus some others. Now it > > > > > > > > > seems all my sister kid's friends and my other nephews a nieces and their > > > > > > > > > friends all come over and have a big WiFi Party. Than of course they > > > > > > > > > complain tome on why they have a slow internet connection and why they are > > > > > > > > > lagging etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyway, my nephew is 13years old and going through those hard teenage years. > > > > > > > > > I spend a lot of time with him to try to keep him on track and be better > > > > > > > > > person than his older brother whom is in jail, and his 16 year old sister > > > > > > > > > that got pregnant and now has a baby. Of course I do not force him to do > > > > > > > > > anything, but try to get him involved in many volunteer activities that I do > > > > > > > > > with my church and lodge. Obviously being 13, not everything is always going > > > > > > > > > to be honky dory all of the time, and this is where we run into trouble. My > > > > > > > > > nephew has had temper tantrums, that almost became physical and I had to > > > > > > > > > kick him out of my house. My sister did nothing. As long as it does not > > > > > > > > > effect here, she really doe snot care about anything really. Of course when > > > > > > > > > he mouths off or is disrespectful to her or to my nada, she does do > > > > > > > > > something, which most of the time is very minor, for she does not want to > > > > > > > > > deal with being the bad person. Instead she calls me, like to make him stay > > > > > > > > > in his room etc, and I refused and said i will not be your bully for hire. > > > > > > > > > Unless you are under physical threat i will not intervene. Of course when he > > > > > > > > > mouths or disrespects me, I try to talk to my sister and pretty much comes > > > > > > > > > up this this whole. thing that he got punished already, cause he was upset > > > > > > > > > etc. I said Zi did not think it was good enough and felt she needed to draw > > > > > > > > > boundaries for his negative actions, or he will think nothing negative will > > > > > > > > > happen to him, and will not be held accountable. I recommended that i turn > > > > > > > > > off the internet to his computer for a day or so as punishment. She said she > > > > > > > > > would do it not I. I did not understand for I said it is my internet, and if > > > > > > > > > he disrespects me I have every right not to go out of my way to share with > > > > > > > > > him. She disagreed. I id not trust myself, and talked to my therapists about > > > > > > > > > this. They thought my sister was nuts trying ti dictate who I offered my > > > > > > > > > internet service to or not. They said I was in my right to cut it off to > > > > > > > > > anyone. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok trying to make this short, so leaving a lot out, but first two times I > > > > > > > > > let it go, and my sister did nothing. Anyway a third incident happened, and > > > > > > > > > I complained to her, she need nothing punishment wise and of course he > > > > > > > > > disrespected me even more. Now she calls me off two days ago and asks if I > > > > > > > > > can turn off the internet for my nephew, cause he was getting mouthy with > > > > > > > > > her and my Nada. At first I agreed to so this, but felt uncomfortable, so i > > > > > > > > > thought about it. I realized i felt uncomfortable cause she was using me to > > > > > > > > > be the bad guy again cause she could not control her son, but did not allow > > > > > > > > > me shut off my own internet when he disrespected me on the same day. The > > > > > > > > > next day she asked for me to turn it back on, and i told her we needed to > > > > > > > > > talk. I said I felt uncomfortable rewarding my nephew by giving him access > > > > > > > > > to my internet, when he never even apologized or thinks his disrespect for > > > > > > > > > me was nothing wrong. I was very calm, she got mad and when we start to try > > > > > > > > > to discuss it further, she said she did not want to argue and hung up. Than > > > > > > > > > my Nada came upstairs and pretend to be nice, but pretty much threatened me > > > > > > > > > with everything such as kicking me out of my apartment, taking my air > > > > > > > > > conditioner away, cause she does not want to pay the electricity, and taking > > > > > > > > > away my cable which was part of my rental package. I told her sternly if you > > > > > > > > > do any of these things I will fight you, and we will be in court for months, > > > > > > > > > and in the mean time will not pay your rent and instead put it in a savings > > > > > > > > > account until this is settled, if she decided to back up her threats. She > > > > > > > > > started screaming at me, especially when I said I had contacted a lawyer and > > > > > > > > > asked about all the settings and my rights. She asked me why i would do > > > > > > > > > that, and i said because i did not trust her and anytime I do not do as she > > > > > > > > > says or wants she threatens to kick me out among many other things, and > > > > > > > > > tries to make my life miserable. I said I needed to protect myself from her. > > > > > > > > > I also told her I recorded our conversation in my apartment, so that it was > > > > > > > > > on record of her threatening me. When i said did it surprised her and she > > > > > > > > > tried not to say anymore and left in a huff. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now it has become a war that start with one person not has three teaming up > > > > > > > > > against me. So much so that I got stranded and could not even get jump, even > > > > > > > > > though they still both had internet access despite everything that happened. > > > > > > > > > I said that was really wrong, for no matter if i was angry at them or not I > > > > > > > > > never left them stranded if they ran out of gas, needed a jumps etc. I said > > > > > > > > > you took a small thing became involved in something that was none of your > > > > > > > > > business and made it into a war. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I found out why my nada was really mad. She had promised my nephew that if > > > > > > > > > he did certain things for her to make up for his disrespect, he would allow > > > > > > > > > him to use her internet. i was shocked. my sisters says I can not have any > > > > > > > > > control over who I allow access to my internet that I pay for, but than > > > > > > > > > allows my mother to, and plus my mother lies and tells my nephew she owns it > > > > > > > > > and controls it. So i feel even bad for him, because he is all confused, and > > > > > > > > > when he asked me I told him this was not true, and why is it I that pays the > > > > > > > > > bills, and also why do I have control over it, and why does it come from my > > > > > > > > > house from my phone line. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am sorry for the many errors but I am trying to write this fast for I am > > > > > > > > > very upset and feel at siege in my own apartment with my own stuff. I knew > > > > > > > > > this was going to happen, from my nada's past behaviors, but do I continue > > > > > > > > > to allow her to have her way, and bully me around? I know maybe I should > > > > > > > > > move, but it makes no difference, for than i would be very lonely, and i am > > > > > > > > > disabled and many times need help. I have lived alone in one city for over > > > > > > > > > 13 years and it was very hard. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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