Nitrious Oxide Gas

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I am a mom of twin boys both on the spectrum. I have been crying my eyes out all morning. I just met with my sons's ENT. They both will be having their tonsils out and one will also have his adnoids taken out. Anyways, I discussed with her we do not want N. Oxide Gas and of course she told me we could talk to the anasthelogist (sp?) right before the surgery. Is it too much to ask to talk to them 24 hours before the surgery??? Doc says if we talk to them days before surgery that might not be the one we get on the surgery date. Why do they make me feel like I am the ONLY person who has ever been concerned about using it? I am starting to think maybe I should just call off the surgeries.......I asked about the lollipops that help to calm and make them

sleepy but of course she made it seem like they wouldn't help at all and the only way was the gas. Then the thought of them, trying to put an IV in my little guys without me being present and without anything to help calm them makes me sick to my stomach. Not sure what to do...................Has anyone on here gone with the gas and had bad results? My one son is low on B12 and we give him the shots. DOn't know what the hell to do.

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 12:51 PMSubject: Re: Re: HUMAWORM not the best one out there

Something our chiropractor had. He is not a big fan of clarkia 100 and told me he was sure DS only needed the artemesia to help immunity. We see him again in a few weeks so I'll get specifics.

He does not think our son (or I ) have parasites but I have to say

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What is the separate artemesia supplement that you give to your child?> > From my intensive research ive made the conclusion that HUMAWORM might not be the best parasite cleanse available. For one the use of SENA and Psyllium is not

advisable at all espeicially for young children. It will make the body dependent on these two substances if used over a period of time. SENA actually works by working on the nerves that cause peristialsis and hence cause a bowel movement. The PUMPKIN POOPS that parents seem to be very happy about is obviously because of the fiber Psyllium which adds bulk to the poop.> Also HUMAWORM for kids does not contain WORMWOOD(ARTEMESIA). So, basically HUMAWORM would be a good product if WORMWOOD was added to it and SENA and Psyllium was removed.> Again, my intention is to warn parents and contribute constructively in finding a better parasite control protocol for our children. Please offer your valuable suggestions so that everyone can benefit from it.>

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Autism One - this past May 2011 - had a great presentation re: anesthesia - it

was on the last day sunday of memorial day weekend - you may be able to locate

the presentation

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> >> From my intensive research ive made the conclusion that HUMAWORM might not

be the best parasite cleanse available. For one the use of SENA and Psyllium is

not advisable at all espeicially for young children. It will make the body

dependent on these two substances if used over a period of time. SENA actually

works by working on the nerves that cause peristialsis and hence cause a bowel

movement. The PUMPKIN POOPS that parents seem to be very happy about is

obviously because of the fiber Psyllium which adds bulk to the poop.

> >> Also HUMAWORM for kids does not contain WORMWOOD(ARTEMESIA). So, basically

HUMAWORM would be a good product if WORMWOOD was added to it and SENA and

Psyllium was removed.

> >> Again, my intention is to warn parents and contribute constructively in

finding a better parasite control protocol for our children. Please offer your

valuable suggestions so that everyone can benefit from it.

> >>

> >

> >

>

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I would contact the office ahead of time and also remind JUST before the surgery. We have documented MTHFR mutation but maybe you have " lost " your blood work? ;-)If I did not have blood work on my children, I do have blood work on myself that shows MTHFR

so that would make me paranoid enough to tell them I wanted them to use something else.Maybe you have time enough to get *your* blood tested?I think but not sure that Versed and profolol are used for sedation?

-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

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Toni, Thank you for responding. How do I get bloodwork for MTHFR mutation? My kiddos Ped? ALthough I am sure he would look at me like I have 2 heads??? THanks! ANG

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 1:13 PMSubject: Re: Nitrious Oxide Gas

I would contact the office ahead of time and also remind JUST before the surgery. We have documented MTHFR mutation but maybe you have "lost" your blood work? ;-)If I did not have blood work on my children, I do have blood work on myself that shows MTHFRso that would make me paranoid enough to tell them I wanted them to use something else.Maybe you have time enough to get *your* blood tested?I think but not sure that Versed and profolol are used for sedation?-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

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This is not Toni, but I do have an answer. Labcorp will test for this. Dr may not look at you like you are crazy. Our neurologist was happy to order it even though she was not aware Labcorp tested until I brought it to her attention.Toni may have additional/better informationSent from my iPhone

Toni, Thank you for responding. How do I get bloodwork for MTHFR mutation? My kiddos Ped? ALthough I am sure he would look at me like I have 2 heads??? THanks! ANG

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 1:13 PMSubject: Re: Nitrious Oxide Gas

I would contact the office ahead of time and also remind JUST before the surgery. We have documented MTHFR mutation but maybe you have "lost" your blood work? ;-)If I did not have blood work on my children, I do have blood work on myself that shows MTHFRso that would make me paranoid enough to tell them I wanted them to use something else.Maybe you have time enough to get *your* blood tested?I think but not sure that Versed and profolol are used for sedation?-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

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The article below is VERY helpful and I printed it out to give to an anesthesiologist when I would need to. I also got a doctors letter (from my DAN) that reiterated the info below.So far I haven't needed to have my DS put out, but it could happen anytime (for dental work etc)http://www.autismone.org/content/anesthesia-autistic-child-sym-c-rankin-rn-crna.HTHTrixie--- Subject: Re: Nitrious Oxide GasTo: mb12valtrex@...: Tuesday, September 20, 2011, 10:57

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This is not Toni, but I do have an answer. Labcorp will test for this. Dr may not look at you like you are crazy. Our neurologist was happy to order it even though she was not aware Labcorp tested until I brought it to her attention.Toni may have additional/better informationSent from my iPhone

Toni, Thank you for responding. How do I get bloodwork for MTHFR mutation? My kiddos Ped? ALthough I am sure he would look at me like I have 2 heads??? THanks! ANG

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 1:13 PMSubject: Re: Nitrious Oxide Gas

I would contact the office ahead of time and also remind JUST before the surgery. We have documented MTHFR mutation but maybe you have "lost" your blood work? ;-)If I did not have blood work on my children, I do have blood work on myself that shows MTHFRso that would make me paranoid enough to tell them I wanted them to use something else.Maybe you have time enough to get *your* blood tested?I think but not sure that Versed and profolol are used for sedation?-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

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Call and ask to speak to the head of anesthesiology. If you can't get through talk to HR and write a complaint about lack of access to the anesthesiologist. Tell the Dr. that you will not go ahead with surgery until you are able to discuss this with someone and have a proper written protocol set in place that is clear for whomever is on when your boys get put under. My boys have a special protocol because of the mito disease. You may have to jump through hoops the first time but won't have to do it again.

Good Luck, Casandra

To: mb12valtrex From: asstenger@...Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 09:49:59 -0700Subject: Nitrious Oxide Gas

I am a mom of twin boys both on the spectrum. I have been crying my eyes out all morning. I just met with my sons's ENT. They both will be having their tonsils out and one will also have his adnoids taken out. Anyways, I discussed with her we do not want N. Oxide Gas and of course she told me we could talk to the anasthelogist (sp?) right before the surgery. Is it too much to ask to talk to them 24 hours before the surgery??? Doc says if we talk to them days before surgery that might not be the one we get on the surgery date. Why do they make me feel like I am the ONLY person who has ever been concerned about using it? I am starting to think maybe I should just call off the surgeries.......I asked about the lollipops that help to calm and make them sleepy but of course she made it seem like they wouldn't help at all and the only way was the gas. Then the thought of them, trying to put an IV in my little guys without me being present and without anything to help calm them makes me sick to my stomach. Not sure what to do...................Has anyone on here gone with the gas and had bad results? My one son is low on B12 and we give him the shots. DOn't know what the hell to do.

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 12:51 PMSubject: Re: Re: HUMAWORM not the best one out there

Something our chiropractor had. He is not a big fan of clarkia 100 and told me he was sure DS only needed the artemesia to help immunity. We see him again in a few weeks so I'll get specifics.

He does not think our son (or I ) have parasites but I have to say

Sent from my iPhone

What is the separate artemesia supplement that you give to your child?> > From my intensive research ive made the conclusion that HUMAWORM might not be the best parasite cleanse available. For one the use of SENA and Psyllium is not advisable at all espeicially for young children. It will make the body dependent on these two substances if used over a period of time. SENA actually works by working on the nerves that cause peristialsis and hence cause a bowel movement. The PUMPKIN POOPS that parents seem to be very happy about is obviously because of the fiber Psyllium which adds bulk to the poop.> Also HUMAWORM for kids does not contain WORMWOOD(ARTEMESIA). So, basically HUMAWORM would be a good product if WORMWOOD was added to it and SENA and Psyllium was removed.> Again, my intention is to warn parents and contribute constructively in finding a better parasite control protocol for our children. Please offer your valuable suggestions so that everyone can benefit from it.>

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https://www.labcorp.com/wps/portal/!ut/p/c1/04_SB8K8xLLM9MSSzPy8xBz9CP0os_hACzO_QCM_IwMLXyM3AyNjMycDU2dXQwN3M6B8JG55AwMCuv088nNT9SP1o8zjQ11Ngg09LY0N_N2DjQw8g439TfyM_MzMLAz0Q_QjnYCKIvEqKsiNKDfUDVQEAOrk-dE!/dl2/d1/L0lJWmltbUEhL3dQRUJGUUFoTlFBaERhQUVBWEtHL1lJNXlsdyEhLzdfVUU0UzFJOTMwT0dTMjBJUzNPNE4yTjY2ODAvdmlld1Rlc3Q!/?testId=407853#7_UE4S1I930OGS20IS3O4N2N6680

Print this out, it has the lab code and the reasons one tests for it. It's related to cardiology,not nitrous oxide or autism/regression.FWIW, my son's neuro ordered it up for him with his Fragile X bloodwork, because I told her I was

positive for it.He turned up double heterozygous, I am in fact homozygous on one allele... meaning he gets the other affected allele from my husband.

 

This is not Toni, but I do have an answer. Labcorp will test for this. Dr may not look at you like you are crazy. Our neurologist was happy to order it even though she was not aware Labcorp tested until I brought it to her attention.

Toni may have additional/better informationSent from my iPhone

 

Toni, Thank you for responding. How do I get bloodwork for MTHFR mutation? My kiddos Ped? ALthough I am sure he would look at me like I have 2 heads??? THanks! ANG

-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

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yes you have to stand firm and dont let them push you around on this.

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 3:59 PMSubject: RE: Nitrious Oxide Gas

Call and ask to speak to the head of anesthesiology. If you can't get through talk to HR and write a complaint about lack of access to the anesthesiologist. Tell the Dr. that you will not go ahead with surgery until you are able to discuss this with someone and have a proper written protocol set in place that is clear for whomever is on when your boys get put under. My boys have a special protocol because of the mito disease. You may have to jump through hoops the first time but won't have to do it again. Good Luck, Casandra

To: mb12valtrex From: asstenger@...Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 09:49:59 -0700Subject: Nitrious Oxide Gas

I am a mom of twin boys both on the spectrum. I have been crying my eyes out all morning. I just met with my sons's ENT. They both will be having their tonsils out and one will also have his adnoids taken out. Anyways, I discussed with her we do not want N. Oxide Gas and of course she told me we could talk to the anasthelogist (sp?) right before the surgery. Is it too much to ask to talk to them 24 hours before the surgery??? Doc says if we talk to them days before surgery that might not be the one we get on the surgery date. Why do they make me feel like I am the ONLY person who has ever been concerned about using it? I am starting to think maybe I should just call off the surgeries.......I asked about the lollipops that help to calm and make them sleepy but of course she made it seem like they wouldn't help at all and the only way was the gas. Then the thought of them, trying to put an IV in my little guys without me being present and

without anything to help calm them makes me sick to my stomach. Not sure what to do...................Has anyone on here gone with the gas and had bad results? My one son is low on B12 and we give him the shots. DOn't know what the hell to do.

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 12:51 PMSubject: Re: Re: HUMAWORM not the best one out there

Something our chiropractor had. He is not a big fan of clarkia 100 and told me he was sure DS only needed the artemesia to help immunity. We see him again in a few weeks so I'll get specifics.

He does not think our son (or I ) have parasites but I have to say

Sent from my iPhone

What is the separate artemesia supplement that you give to your child?> > From my intensive research ive made the conclusion that HUMAWORM might not be the best parasite cleanse available. For one the use of SENA and Psyllium is not

advisable at all espeicially for young children. It will make the body dependent on these two substances if used over a period of time. SENA actually works by working on the nerves that cause peristialsis and hence cause a bowel movement. The PUMPKIN POOPS that parents seem to be very happy about is obviously because of the fiber Psyllium which adds bulk to the poop.> Also HUMAWORM for kids does not contain WORMWOOD(ARTEMESIA). So, basically HUMAWORM would be a good product if WORMWOOD was added to it and SENA and Psyllium was removed.> Again, my intention is to warn parents and contribute constructively in finding a better parasite control protocol for our children. Please offer your valuable suggestions so that everyone can benefit from it.>

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NO sent my son into catatonia. No joke.

He was unable to use his hands, use the bathroom independently, wash his hands,

or learn in school. He lost all speech.

He went from being the kid who the teacher had to come up with new things for

because he learned them so quickly... to being bumped into a " lower level "

class.

I told 2 nurses after his MRI that something was wrong. They told us that it

would wear off. It did not - until a year later, we began tube feeding and

introduced biomed.

There is no medical reason for NO. My son has had procedures after this event.

We used a little EMLA cream and then an IV. I held his hand and he was fine.

There is no reason you can't be there.

>

> I am a mom of twin boys both on the spectrum. I have been crying my eyes out

all morning. I just met with my sons's ENT. They both will be having their

tonsils out and one will also have his adnoids taken out. Anyways, I discussed

with her we do not want N. Oxide Gas and of course she told me we could talk to

the anasthelogist (sp?) right before the surgery. Is it too much to ask to talk

to them 24 hours before the surgery??? Doc says if we talk to them days before

surgery that might not be the one we get on the surgery date. Why do they make

me feel like I am the ONLY person who has ever been concerned about using it? I

am starting to think maybe I should just call off the surgeries.......I asked

about the lollipops that help to calm and make them sleepy but of course she

made it seem like they wouldn't help at all and the only way was the gas. Then

the thought of them, trying to put an IV in my little guys without me being

present and without anything

> to help calm them makes me sick to my stomach. Not sure what to

do...................Has anyone on here gone with the gas and had bad results?

My one son is low on B12 and we give him the shots. DOn't know what the hell to

do.

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Your pediatric geneticist can order this test. Get referred by your ped/pcp. I

learned that lesson. Long story, I've told before.

>

> Toni, Thank you for responding. How do I get bloodwork for MTHFR mutation? My

kiddos Ped? ALthough I am sure he would look at me like I have 2 heads???

THanks! ANG...

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Yes, I had to threaten an anesth doc that we would call in another doc if we had

to.

I told her I had already talked to the chair of anesth at my hospital and had a

pub med article (she went off at this). I insisted that it was not medically

necessary and that we would ask for another doc. She relented.

>

> yes you have to stand firm and dont let them push you around on this...

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Avoid Nitrous Oxide or Laughing Gas at all costs. There have been cases of permanent regressions after its use in children on the Spectrum. Stand firm with all professionals. It is YOUR child and you are in charge. Pamela From: mb12valtrex [mailto:mb12valtrex ] On Behalf Of shawn stengerSent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 12:50 PMTo: mb12valtrex Subject: Nitrious Oxide Gas I am a mom of twin boys both on the spectrum. I have been crying my eyes out all morning. I just met with my sons's ENT. They both will be having their tonsils out and one will also have his adnoids taken out. Anyways, I discussed with her we do not want N. Oxide Gas and of course she told me we could talk to the anasthelogist (sp?) right before the surgery. Is it too much to ask to talk to them 24 hours before the surgery??? Doc says if we talk to them days before surgery that might not be the one we get on the surgery date. Why do they make me feel like I am the ONLY person who has ever been concerned about using it? I am starting to think maybe I should just call off the surgeries.......I asked about the lollipops that help to calm and make them sleepy but of course she made it seem like they wouldn't help at all and the only way was the gas. Then the thought of them, trying to put an IV in my little guys without me being present and without anything to help calm them makes me sick to my stomach. Not sure what to do...................Has anyone on here gone with the gas and had bad results? My one son is low on B12 and we give him the shots. DOn't know what the hell to do. To: mb12valtrex Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 12:51 PMSubject: Re: Re: HUMAWORM not the best one out there Something our chiropractor had. He is not a big fan of clarkia 100 and told me he was sure DS only needed the artemesia to help immunity. We see him again in a few weeks so I'll get specifics. He does not think our son (or I ) have parasites but I have to say Sent from my iPhone What is the separate artemesia supplement that you give to your child?> > From my intensive research ive made the conclusion that HUMAWORM might not be the best parasite cleanse available. For one the use of SENA and Psyllium is not advisable at all espeicially for young children. It will make the body dependent on these two substances if used over a period of time. SENA actually works by working on the nerves that cause peristialsis and hence cause a bowel movement. The PUMPKIN POOPS that parents seem to be very happy about is obviously because of the fiber Psyllium which adds bulk to the poop.> Also HUMAWORM for kids does not contain WORMWOOD(ARTEMESIA). So, basically HUMAWORM would be a good product if WORMWOOD was added to it and SENA and Psyllium was removed.> Again, my intention is to warn parents and contribute constructively in finding a better parasite control protocol for our children. Please offer your valuable suggestions so that everyone can benefit from it.>

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Hi

my son had gas for tubes and adenoids. He had a huge regression lost what

language he did have. Pls don't let them use this on ur babies. They can give

them some po ativan or versed to relax them then start the iv. I wish I had

known how this would effect my son I would have never let them use the gas.

> >>

> >> From my intensive research ive made the conclusion that HUMAWORM might not

be the best parasite cleanse available. For one the use of SENA and Psyllium is

not advisable at all espeicially for young children. It will make the body

dependent on these two substances if used over a period of time. SENA actually

works by working on the nerves that cause peristialsis and hence cause a bowel

movement. The PUMPKIN POOPS that parents seem to be very happy about is

obviously because of the fiber Psyllium which adds bulk to the poop.

> >> Also HUMAWORM for kids does not contain WORMWOOD(ARTEMESIA). So, basically

HUMAWORM would be a good product if WORMWOOD was added to it and SENA and

Psyllium was removed.

> >> Again, my intention is to warn parents and contribute constructively in

finding a better parasite control protocol for our children. Please offer your

valuable suggestions so that everyone can benefit from it.

> >>

> >

> >

>

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Any doc can order the MTHFR DNA analysis. Standard labs do them (lab corp, quest). Doesn't have to be a geneticist. Not all insurance carriers will cover it though.-Sylvia

NO sent my son into catatonia. No joke.

He was unable to use his hands, use the bathroom independently, wash his hands, or learn in school. He lost all speech.

He went from being the kid who the teacher had to come up with new things for because he learned them so quickly... to being bumped into a "lower level" class.

I told 2 nurses after his MRI that something was wrong. They told us that it would wear off. It did not - until a year later, we began tube feeding and introduced biomed.

There is no medical reason for NO. My son has had procedures after this event. We used a little EMLA cream and then an IV. I held his hand and he was fine. There is no reason you can't be there.

>

> I am a mom of twin boys both on the spectrum. I have been crying my eyes out all morning. I just met with my sons's ENT. They both will be having their tonsils out and one will also have his adnoids taken out. Anyways, I discussed with her we do not want N. Oxide Gas and of course she told me we could talk to the anasthelogist (sp?) right before the surgery. Is it too much to ask to talk to them 24 hours before the surgery??? Doc says if we talk to them days before surgery that might not be the one we get on the surgery date. Why do they make me feel like I am the ONLY person who has ever been concerned about using it? I am starting to think maybe I should just call off the surgeries.......I asked about the lollipops that help to calm and make them sleepy but of course she made it seem like they wouldn't help at all and the only way was the gas. Then the thought of them, trying to put an IV in my little guys without me being present and without anything

> to help calm them makes me sick to my stomach. Not sure what to do...................Has anyone on here gone with the gas and had bad results? My one son is low on B12 and we give him the shots. DOn't know what the hell to do.

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Can you please take the Nitrous Oxide Gas discussion to a separate thread? This

thread was created to discuss various parasite protocols.

Thanks

> >

> > I am a mom of twin boys both on the spectrum. I have been crying my eyes out

all morning. I just met with my sons's ENT. They both will be having their

tonsils out and one will also have his adnoids taken out. Anyways, I discussed

with her we do not want N. Oxide Gas and of course she told me we could talk to

the anasthelogist (sp?) right before the surgery. Is it too much to ask to talk

to them 24 hours before the surgery??? Doc says if we talk to them days before

surgery that might not be the one we get on the surgery date. Why do they make

me feel like I am the ONLY person who has ever been concerned about using it? I

am starting to think maybe I should just call off the surgeries.......I asked

about the lollipops that help to calm and make them sleepy but of course she

made it seem like they wouldn't help at all and the only way was the gas. Then

the thought of them, trying to put an IV in my little guys without me being

present and without anything

> > to help calm them makes me sick to my stomach. Not sure what to

do...................Has anyone on here gone with the gas and had bad results?

My one son is low on B12 and we give him the shots. DOn't know what the hell to

do.

>

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This is what is in my subject line ---- > Re: Re: Nitrious Oxide Gas

 

Can you please take the Nitrous Oxide Gas discussion to a separate thread? This thread was created to discuss various parasite protocols.

Thanks-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

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Toni, Thank you for responding. How do I get bloodwork for MTHFR mutation? My kiddos Ped? ALthough I am sure he would look at me like I have 2 heads??? THanks! ANG

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 1:13 PMSubject: Re: Nitrious Oxide Gas

I would contact the office ahead of time and also remind JUST before the surgery. We have documented MTHFR mutation but maybe you have "lost" your blood work? ;-)If I did not have blood work on my children, I do have blood work on myself that shows MTHFRso that would make me paranoid enough to tell them I wanted them to use something else.Maybe you have time enough to get *your* blood tested?I think but not sure that Versed and profolol are used for sedation?-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

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That's what I thought Toni!this group discusses things that are of CONCERN to

the parents on the group.I should think no topic is off limits.

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My daughter had MRI with general anesthesia (propofol-great one for our kids BTW-no regression). However, they wanted give her laughing gas to "relax" her to put IV with propofol in her vein-I said NO! They did not even mentioned the gas to me, but I knew from other parents. Talk to anesthesiologist at the time of surgery (not a day before) and tell him that you want to be with your kids for the IVs insertion time. Tell them if you hold your kids, than they will be fine with the IV without the gas (I did that for my daughter-worked great!). If you know your kids will scream on top of their lungs when they see a niddle-then it is a different story-you don't want to scary doctor and nurses and make them angry before the surgery. Remember, you are the mother, you have the right to ask, talk and demand and receive explanations of denial (if there is one). I was with my daughter when they put IV in, then in OR (sort of,it was endoscopic room ) until she closed her eyes and fell asleep. Good luck!To:

mb12valtrex Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 10:56 AMSubject: Re: Nitrious Oxide Gas

Hi

my son had gas for tubes and adenoids. He had a huge regression lost what language he did have. Pls don't let them use this on ur babies. They can give them some po ativan or versed to relax them then start the iv. I wish I had known how this would effect my son I would have never let them use the gas.

> >>

> >> From my intensive research ive made the conclusion that HUMAWORM might not be the best parasite cleanse available. For one the use of SENA and Psyllium is not advisable at all espeicially for young children. It will make the body dependent on these two substances if used over a period of time. SENA actually works by working on the nerves that cause peristialsis and hence cause a bowel movement. The PUMPKIN POOPS that parents seem to be very happy about is obviously because of the fiber Psyllium which adds bulk to the poop.

> >> Also HUMAWORM for kids does not contain WORMWOOD(ARTEMESIA). So, basically HUMAWORM would be a good product if WORMWOOD was added to it and SENA and Psyllium was removed.

> >> Again, my intention is to warn parents and contribute constructively in finding a better parasite control protocol for our children. Please offer your valuable suggestions so that everyone can benefit from it.

> >>

> >

> >

>

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Are you sure propofol is OK? My son just had an ADM done, and they had to put

him under to put the tube in his nose. When we were talking about options for

sedation, I mentioned that he was also going through a genetics work up and both

doctors put the breaks on propofol. They said that if he has an underlying

mitochondrial disorder, he shouldn't take it. I don't know why though.

Now I'm worried though. They did use a gas to sedate him completely, but I

don't know the name. At his last procedure, I remember asking about N.O. and

the doctor said they rarely use it.

But he did wake up and is his usual self. In fact, he was better behaved during

his 2 day hospital stay than he is now, back at home.

Nadia

> > >>

> > >> From my intensive research ive made the conclusion that HUMAWORM might

not be the best parasite cleanse available. For one the use of SENA and Psyllium

is not advisable at all espeicially for young children. It will make the body

dependent on these two substances if used over a period of time. SENA actually

works by working on the nerves that cause peristialsis and hence cause a bowel

movement. The PUMPKIN POOPS that parents seem to be very happy about is

obviously because of the fiber Psyllium which adds bulk to the poop.

> > >> Also HUMAWORM for kids does not contain WORMWOOD(ARTEMESIA). So,

basically HUMAWORM would be a good product if WORMWOOD was added to it and SENA

and Psyllium was removed.

> > >> Again, my intention is to warn parents and contribute constructively in

finding a better parasite control protocol for our children. Please offer your

valuable suggestions so that everyone can benefit from it.

> > >>

> > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

We have used it for my son's procedures with no problem.

NO led to near catatonia.

> >

> > My daughter had MRI with general anesthesia (propofol-great one for our kids

BTW-no regression). However, they wanted give her laughing gas to " relax " her to

put IV with propofol in her vein-I said NO! ...

> >

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> > From: volsfan711711 <mnorman7@>

> > To: mb12valtrex

> > Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 10:56 AM

> > Subject: Re: Nitrious Oxide Gas

> >

> >

> >  

> > Hi

> > my son had gas for tubes and adenoids. He had a huge regression lost what

language he did have. Pls don't let them use this on ur babies. They can give

them some po ativan or versed to relax them then start the iv. I wish I had

known how this would effect my son I would have never let them use the gas...

[Guest guest]

Mine, too.To: mb12valtrex Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 12:14 PMSubject: Re: Re: Nitrious Oxide Gas

This is what is in my subject line ---- > Re: Re: Nitrious Oxide Gas

Can you please take the Nitrous Oxide Gas discussion to a separate thread? This thread was created to discuss various parasite protocols.

Thanks-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

[Guest guest]

Not from what I've seen! It's what sets us apart.But in all fainess we DO tend to stray wayyyyy of the subject line of the thread. And I can't tell how much I've learned from off-topic conversations.....We most definitely are not of sheep mentality and most of us are not good at following "rules" and "procedures". That's what led us to this group in the first place : ) -Tammy To: mb12valtrex Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 1:05 PMSubject: Re: Nitrious Oxide GasThat's what I thought Toni!this group discusses things that are of CONCERN to the parents on the group.I should think no topic is off limits.Sent from my iPad