Guest guest Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 A few months ago my BP mom sent me awful emails when my dad left her, blaming me for him leaving, telling me she wished she had aborted me, and that i was responsible for her medical problems etc etc. Immediately I realized I had to block her from all communication, and it has been this way for 2.5 months. She lives in Australia and I live in the States and she was supposed to meet up with me over a visit this month. When i told my dad I refused to see her until she was enrolled in a therapy program she called me and tried every possible way to manipulate me into saying I would see her, she tried guilt, suicide, attacking my relationship with my father, finally blaming me again for not convincing my dad to stay with her- at which point i hung up. since she's been in the states she's been calling and leaving odd voice mails just saying things like " i know you wont pick up but I just want to say i love you " which is so frustrating because i know it's all so fake (usually her vm's consist of her crying and trying to make me feel guilty) I don't doubt that she loves me but she could just as easily snap and attack me. So i sent her an email asking her to stop calling me, asking her to really take time and go to therapy so we can start fresh and have a healthy relationship. She replied by attacking me and telling me i was stupid, that i would regret this and that i shouldn't bother coming to her funeral. I don't have a question but I just don't want to feel so alone. I feel like i try so hard to get my point across and also be nurturing because i know she's sensitive but it seems like things will never really be okay. I mean i'll never get the end result I want in any way? Because i know a lot of people on here talk about how horrible their mothers were, and my mother was a lot of things and it was really hard, but she's also a really good person and i do love her, i just don't want the poison anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 Welcome to the Group DistressedDaughter, The behaviors you've described are all too familiar. I too experienced blaming and projecting from my bpd mom or " nada. " That is a core trait or feature of personality disorder. They think their own subjective perceptions, thoughts and feelings are normal, OK, and reasonable. That's called an " ego syntonic " state. They either can't or won't take any personal responsibility for their disordered thoughts, behaviors or words and instead project their negativity onto others and blame others for all their problems. You have insight about this, you understand that its your mother and not you who is disordered and needs therapy, but it still hurts when she mistreats you and then says " I love you " . So, welcome. We KOs, the adult *kids of* bpd parents, have experienced nearly identical kinds of abuse so we " get it. " I think you will find a lot of validation and support here, and hopefully some inner peace and healing too. -Annie > > A few months ago my BP mom sent me awful emails when my dad left her, blaming me for him leaving, telling me she wished she had aborted me, and that i was responsible for her medical problems etc etc. Immediately I realized I had to block her from all communication, and it has been this way for 2.5 months. > > She lives in Australia and I live in the States and she was supposed to meet up with me over a visit this month. When i told my dad I refused to see her until she was enrolled in a therapy program she called me and tried every possible way to manipulate me into saying I would see her, she tried guilt, suicide, attacking my relationship with my father, finally blaming me again for not convincing my dad to stay with her- at which point i hung up. > > since she's been in the states she's been calling and leaving odd voice mails just saying things like " i know you wont pick up but I just want to say i love you " which is so frustrating because i know it's all so fake (usually her vm's consist of her crying and trying to make me feel guilty) I don't doubt that she loves me but she could just as easily snap and attack me. So i sent her an email asking her to stop calling me, asking her to really take time and go to therapy so we can start fresh and have a healthy relationship. She replied by attacking me and telling me i was stupid, that i would regret this and that i shouldn't bother coming to her funeral. > > I don't have a question but I just don't want to feel so alone. I feel like i try so hard to get my point across and also be nurturing because i know she's sensitive but it seems like things will never really be okay. I mean i'll never get the end result I want in any way? Because i know a lot of people on here talk about how horrible their mothers were, and my mother was a lot of things and it was really hard, but she's also a really good person and i do love her, i just don't want the poison anymore. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 Hi, DD. I am sorry to hear about all of your mother's abusive behavior. It is encouraging to hear that you are firm about your boundaries with her. That is good for you! I think it's also good that you are able to get past the splitting behavior we were taught and recognize that your mother has good qualities AND that she is severely emotionally handicapped (i.e., she's not " all bad " ). It is healthy to be able to see people as integral beings, with both positive and negative qualities. That said, even " good " people are capable of doing horrible abusive things. Like calling their daughter and threatening suicide or blaming her for the failure of her marriage. Those things are not okay, and I'm sorry she is treating you this way. None of her problems are your fault. You can't control how she feels. I understand trying to be as sensitive as possible to avoid triggering her, but really it's not your fault. She will find a reason to be upset with you, no matter how hard you try not to give her one. I think you are doing the right thing to stick to your boundaries with your mum. It is best for you and for her. I hope you will continue to find the support you need here. Sveta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 that's what makes it so hard I think....that with a bpd you get both, most of the time. I think with a psychotic, you'd just get all bad, then you could just leave. the torture of the bpd is that they sometimes can act a tad bit normal. and since 'hope springs eternal' our hearts can latch onto that. my mother ambushed me yesterday unexpectedly and I reacted really strongly. I know what it is like to feel alone, I felt that so strongly yesterday, why I react the way that i do, because I always felt so alone because I was ganged up on and pathologized as a child. This is the right place to be and to share about those things, it's something that we all can relate to. Hugs. > > A few months ago my BP mom sent me awful emails when my dad left her, blaming me for him leaving, telling me she wished she had aborted me, and that i was responsible for her medical problems etc etc. Immediately I realized I had to block her from all communication, and it has been this way for 2.5 months. > > She lives in Australia and I live in the States and she was supposed to meet up with me over a visit this month. When i told my dad I refused to see her until she was enrolled in a therapy program she called me and tried every possible way to manipulate me into saying I would see her, she tried guilt, suicide, attacking my relationship with my father, finally blaming me again for not convincing my dad to stay with her- at which point i hung up. > > since she's been in the states she's been calling and leaving odd voice mails just saying things like " i know you wont pick up but I just want to say i love you " which is so frustrating because i know it's all so fake (usually her vm's consist of her crying and trying to make me feel guilty) I don't doubt that she loves me but she could just as easily snap and attack me. So i sent her an email asking her to stop calling me, asking her to really take time and go to therapy so we can start fresh and have a healthy relationship. She replied by attacking me and telling me i was stupid, that i would regret this and that i shouldn't bother coming to her funeral. > > I don't have a question but I just don't want to feel so alone. I feel like i try so hard to get my point across and also be nurturing because i know she's sensitive but it seems like things will never really be okay. I mean i'll never get the end result I want in any way? Because i know a lot of people on here talk about how horrible their mothers were, and my mother was a lot of things and it was really hard, but she's also a really good person and i do love her, i just don't want the poison anymore. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 Hello Llel11 and all, Oh you have hit a nerve for me. For years (52) I have rationalized, buried, excused, turned the other cheek, etc. getting stung by my nada. Now I am seeing the light and I feel this mix of anger, panic, releif and sadness. Thank you for sharing your stories and feelings. I feel like I am gaining strength to set boundries and take better care of myself in my family of origin because of this group. I feel less alone and not so helpless and crazy. > > > > A few months ago my BP mom sent me awful emails when my dad left her, blaming me for him leaving, telling me she wished she had aborted me, and that i was responsible for her medical problems etc etc. Immediately I realized I had to block her from all communication, and it has been this way for 2.5 months. > > > > She lives in Australia and I live in the States and she was supposed to meet up with me over a visit this month. When i told my dad I refused to see her until she was enrolled in a therapy program she called me and tried every possible way to manipulate me into saying I would see her, she tried guilt, suicide, attacking my relationship with my father, finally blaming me again for not convincing my dad to stay with her- at which point i hung up. > > > > since she's been in the states she's been calling and leaving odd voice mails just saying things like " i know you wont pick up but I just want to say i love you " which is so frustrating because i know it's all so fake (usually her vm's consist of her crying and trying to make me feel guilty) I don't doubt that she loves me but she could just as easily snap and attack me. So i sent her an email asking her to stop calling me, asking her to really take time and go to therapy so we can start fresh and have a healthy relationship. She replied by attacking me and telling me i was stupid, that i would regret this and that i shouldn't bother coming to her funeral. > > > > I don't have a question but I just don't want to feel so alone. I feel like i try so hard to get my point across and also be nurturing because i know she's sensitive but it seems like things will never really be okay. I mean i'll never get the end result I want in any way? Because i know a lot of people on here talk about how horrible their mothers were, and my mother was a lot of things and it was really hard, but she's also a really good person and i do love her, i just don't want the poison anymore. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2011 Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 Your mom sounds very toxic, and you have every right to either limit your contact with her or opt out of contact with her altogether. If you chose to NOT put your hand in a fire because it would burn you, people would respect that choice. You would be considered mentally healthy to not expose your skin in jeopardy. Deciding what emotional abuse you will not expose yourself to is also a healthy, good choice. People don't always see emotional choices in this light, but it really is true. > > A few months ago my BP mom sent me awful emails when my dad left her, blaming me for him leaving, telling me she wished she had aborted me, and that i was responsible for her medical problems etc etc. Immediately I realized I had to block her from all communication, and it has been this way for 2.5 months. > > She lives in Australia and I live in the States and she was supposed to meet up with me over a visit this month. When i told my dad I refused to see her until she was enrolled in a therapy program she called me and tried every possible way to manipulate me into saying I would see her, she tried guilt, suicide, attacking my relationship with my father, finally blaming me again for not convincing my dad to stay with her- at which point i hung up. > > since she's been in the states she's been calling and leaving odd voice mails just saying things like " i know you wont pick up but I just want to say i love you " which is so frustrating because i know it's all so fake (usually her vm's consist of her crying and trying to make me feel guilty) I don't doubt that she loves me but she could just as easily snap and attack me. So i sent her an email asking her to stop calling me, asking her to really take time and go to therapy so we can start fresh and have a healthy relationship. She replied by attacking me and telling me i was stupid, that i would regret this and that i shouldn't bother coming to her funeral. > > I don't have a question but I just don't want to feel so alone. I feel like i try so hard to get my point across and also be nurturing because i know she's sensitive but it seems like things will never really be okay. I mean i'll never get the end result I want in any way? Because i know a lot of people on here talk about how horrible their mothers were, and my mother was a lot of things and it was really hard, but she's also a really good person and i do love her, i just don't want the poison anymore. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2011 Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 I think you showed compassion and good judgement by making it very clear, no further contact until she gets help. You are being the adult here and establishing a healthy boundry for you and for her. You should be very proud of yourself. She is lucky to have you as a daughter, that you love her and yourself enough to set boundries. > > > > A few months ago my BP mom sent me awful emails when my dad left her, blaming me for him leaving, telling me she wished she had aborted me, and that i was responsible for her medical problems etc etc. Immediately I realized I had to block her from all communication, and it has been this way for 2.5 months. > > > > She lives in Australia and I live in the States and she was supposed to meet up with me over a visit this month. When i told my dad I refused to see her until she was enrolled in a therapy program she called me and tried every possible way to manipulate me into saying I would see her, she tried guilt, suicide, attacking my relationship with my father, finally blaming me again for not convincing my dad to stay with her- at which point i hung up. > > > > since she's been in the states she's been calling and leaving odd voice mails just saying things like " i know you wont pick up but I just want to say i love you " which is so frustrating because i know it's all so fake (usually her vm's consist of her crying and trying to make me feel guilty) I don't doubt that she loves me but she could just as easily snap and attack me. So i sent her an email asking her to stop calling me, asking her to really take time and go to therapy so we can start fresh and have a healthy relationship. She replied by attacking me and telling me i was stupid, that i would regret this and that i shouldn't bother coming to her funeral. > > > > I don't have a question but I just don't want to feel so alone. I feel like i try so hard to get my point across and also be nurturing because i know she's sensitive but it seems like things will never really be okay. I mean i'll never get the end result I want in any way? Because i know a lot of people on here talk about how horrible their mothers were, and my mother was a lot of things and it was really hard, but she's also a really good person and i do love her, i just don't want the poison anymore. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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