Re: Son stripping off clothing, what is that?!

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This sounds like tactile Defensiveness. Does he see an OT? If not you can google the brushing protocol. Here is a link to some information. http://www.thetherapyplace.net/newsletter/3_2.htmBest of luck. Ruth Sent from my iPhone

Hi everyone.

My son is five with autism diagnosis. Lately (and he has done this

before a year or two ago) he has been stripping off all his clothing and nappy too overnight and several times a day. His doc said it could be Pyrolles.

He gets agitated if I don't let him strip.

I use a decent washing powder(hypoallergenic) for his

clothing etc and havn't used anything new.

He also has had an aversion to wearing his sandals for the last few

months. Has anyone had this experience or have

any ideas what it may be?? And how to resolve?

Debbie

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Both of my kids have a tendency to do this.  For them, this is related to serotonin levels.  My daughter had been doing this long before my son had.  She has had an OAT ran on her and her serotonin levels are low.  She always wants to strip down because she can't regulate her body temperature properly so she tends to overheat a lot.  She especially likes to bathe 2-3 times a day, just sitting under the running tap in the bathtub, sometimes she'll want to sit in the shower.  Other times (and I'm in Canada and it's a pretty cold frigid winter here), she'll strip down and try to run outside to stand on the back porch with just her underwear on.  When I found out about the serotonin thing, it all made sense -- she can't regulate temperature and is trying to cool down.  I use 5-HTP to help this -- it helps a little bit, but then we get an imbalance between dopamine and serotonin sometimes and I'm finding I need to use tyrosine with it so that dopamine doesn't get thrown out of balance. 

With my son, it might be something tactile, as lately, he's been wanting me to cut the tags off all clothes (not just his) and he's been trying to strip down.

 

Hi everyone.

My son is five with autism diagnosis. Lately (and he has done this

before a year or two ago) he has been stripping off all his clothing and nappy too overnight and several times a day. His doc said it could be Pyrolles.

He gets agitated if I don't let him strip.

I use a decent washing powder(hypoallergenic) for his

clothing etc and havn't used anything new.

He also has had an aversion to wearing his sandals for the last few

months. Has anyone had this experience or have

any ideas what it may be?? And how to resolve?

Debbie

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I agree that it's sensory defensive. Here more info on sensory issues in our kids.

http://www.education.com/reference/article/sensory-interventions-supports-ASD/

Autism and clothing issues:

http://www.softclothing.net/resources/clothing-faq/

http://www.thespeciallife.com/autism-and-clothing.html

http://www.learningaboutautism.com/

Autism clothing brands:

http://www.softclothing.net/resources/about-us/

http://buy.special-need-products.com/autism-clothing

http://www.underarmour.com/shop?cid=dc_secid

Subject: Son stripping off clothing, what is that?!To: mb12valtrex Date: Saturday, March 3, 2012, 2:04 AM

Hi everyone.My son is five with autism diagnosis. Lately (and he has done this before a year or two ago) he has been stripping off all his clothing and nappy too overnight and several times a day. His doc said it could be Pyrolles. He gets agitated if I don't let him strip.I use a decent washing powder(hypoallergenic) for his clothing etc and havn't used anything new. He also has had an aversion to wearing his sandals for the last few months. Has anyone had this experience or have any ideas what it may be?? And how to resolve?Debbie

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My son does this as well and it is definitely sensory oriented. Think of it as you were wearing gloves and how you can not feel things like you can with your fingers. This is how our kids feel only multiplied x 1000. My son also takes his shoes off many times a day. I just accept it and know it will not get better until we heal his problems with the immune system and inflammation. This is just a by product of what is going on in their compromised little bodies.

Kerri

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Saturday, March 3, 2012 8:20 AMSubject: Re: Son stripping off clothing, what is that?!

I agree that it's sensory defensive. Here more info on sensory issues in our kids.

http://www.education.com/reference/article/sensory-interventions-supports-ASD/

Autism and clothing issues:

http://www.softclothing.net/resources/clothing-faq/

http://www.thespeciallife.com/autism-and-clothing.html

http://www.learningaboutautism.com/

Autism clothing brands:

http://www.softclothing.net/resources/about-us/

http://buy.special-need-products.com/autism-clothing

http://www.underarmour.com/shop?cid=dc_secid

Subject: Son stripping off clothing, what is that?!To: mb12valtrex Date: Saturday, March 3, 2012, 2:04 AM

Hi everyone.My son is five with autism diagnosis. Lately (and he has done this before a year or two ago) he has been stripping off all his clothing and nappy too overnight and several times a day. His doc said it could be Pyrolles. He gets agitated if I don't let him strip.I use a decent washing powder(hypoallergenic) for his clothing etc and havn't used anything new. He also has had an aversion to wearing his sandals for the last few months. Has anyone had this experience or have any ideas what it may be?? And how to resolve?Debbie

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We went through this for 2 years. The first year we didn't know he had autism/aspergers. We just thought he was stubborn. Undressed and hid every morning before school. A fight to get hm to wear shoes or the seatbelt. We did diet change, biomeds and supplements. We also let him CHOOSE his clothes and shoes. Sometimes he wore the same thing over and over. He is 7 now and so much better. Sensory issues are very mild, no stimming or tics. Hope it helps hang n there.

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Hi everyone.My son is five with autism diagnosis. Lately (and he has done this before a year or two ago) he has been stripping off all his clothing and nappy too overnight and several times a day. His doc said it could be Pyrolles. He gets agitated if I don't let him strip.I use a decent washing powder(hypoallergenic) for his clothing etc and havn't used anything new. He also has had an aversion to wearing his sandals for the last few months. Has anyone had this experience or have any ideas what it may be?? And how to resolve?Debbie

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Bet you're right on, Alberta. My 6 yr. old is constantly pulling his pants down below his butt. I probably repeat the words " pull up your pants" more than any other phrase. Then finally the other day he said to me "I need to make my butt feel cool. Its too hot". ok buddy, by all means cool off your butt. Lol. Both my kids have a high tolerance for the cold. (I am the exact Opposite..prob thyroid) Neighbors look at me funny because on a nice winters day, it isn't unusual for the boys to be outside playing shirtless. I have no doubt they both will grow to be the types you see wearing shorts and sandals in the middle of January. Btw, these can sometimes be signs of undermethylation....good tolerance of the cold and low seratonin.

Tammy

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Lol, at cooling down the butt!  I'm still laughing about Tom yelling out he's got hairy balls!  ROTF LMAO.  Your kids crack me up!

 

Bet you're right on, Alberta. My 6 yr. old is constantly pulling his pants down below his butt. I probably repeat the words " pull up your pants " more than any other phrase.  Then finally the other day he said to me " I need to make my butt feel cool. Its too hot " .  ok buddy, by all means cool off your butt. Lol.  Both my kids have a high tolerance for the cold. (I am the exact Opposite..prob thyroid) Neighbors look at me funny because on a nice winters day, it isn't unusual for the boys to be outside playing shirtless. I have no doubt they both will grow to be the types you see wearing shorts and sandals in the middle of January.  Btw, these can sometimes be signs of undermethylation....good tolerance of the cold and low seratonin.

Tammy

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Lol Alberta, this is my life everyday. : )

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Nervous system on overdrive. Hypersensitive to stimulation through his central nervous system. Carly Fleischman said her body felt like it had ants crawling all over it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_GXVzZ0UnkTreatment for Pyrolles (to my knowledge) is attributed to Zinc and B6 deficiency, which is common with our kids. Do you supplement with these? Urine test to confirm Pyroluria http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1OJ87eA0LgOn 2-Mar-12, at 11:04 PM, Debbie Conn wrote: Hi everyone. My son is five with autism diagnosis. Lately (and he has done this before a year or two ago) he has been stripping off all his clothing and nappy too overnight and several times a day. His doc said it could be Pyrolles. He gets agitated if I don't let him strip. I use a decent washing powder(hypoallergenic) for his clothing etc and havn't used anything new. He also has had an aversion to wearing his sandals for the last few months. Has anyone had this experience or have any ideas what it may be?? And how to resolve? Debbie

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I also use 5 HTP and tyrosine. My son does not strip off his clothes but it is for serotonin and dopamine levels to help with his anxiety. Both of my kids have a tendency to do this. For them, this is related to serotonin levels. My daughter had been doing this long before my son had. She has had an OAT ran on her and her serotonin levels are low. She always wants to strip down because she can't regulate her body temperature properly so she tends to overheat a lot. She especially likes to bathe 2-3 times a day, just sitting under the running tap in the bathtub, sometimes she'll want to sit in the shower. Other times (and I'm in Canada and it's a pretty cold frigid winter here), she'll strip down and try to run outside to stand on the back porch with just her underwear on. When I found out about the serotonin thing, it all made sense -- she can't regulate temperature and is trying to cool down. I use 5-HTP to help this -- it helps a little bit, but then we get an imbalance between dopamine and serotonin sometimes and I'm finding I need to use tyrosine with it so that dopamine doesn't get thrown out of balance. With my son, it might be something tactile, as lately, he's been wanting me to cut the tags off all clothes (not just his) and he's been trying to strip down. Hi everyone. My son is five with autism diagnosis. Lately (and he has done this before a year or two ago) he has been stripping off all his clothing and nappy too overnight and several times a day. His doc said it could be Pyrolles. He gets agitated if I don't let him strip. I use a decent washing powder(hypoallergenic) for his clothing etc and havn't used anything new. He also has had an aversion to wearing his sandals for the last few months. Has anyone had this experience or have any ideas what it may be?? And how to resolve? Debbie

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Excitotoxicity might explain it for my son.  He'd never been a strip-down kind of kid until recently but i am seeing other symptoms of it with him.  Hmmm...interesting, glad you mentioned it, .

>  >> I also use 5 HTP and tyrosine. My son does not strip off his clothes but it is for serotonin and dopamine levels to help with his anxiety.>> >

>>  >> Both of my kids have a tendency to do this.  For them, this is related to serotonin levels.  My daughter had been doing this long before my son had.  She has had an OAT ran on her and her serotonin levels are low.  She always wants to strip down because she can't regulate her body temperature properly so she tends to overheat a lot.  She especially likes to bathe 2-3 times a day, just sitting under the running tap in the bathtub, sometimes she'll want to sit in the shower.  Other times (and I'm in Canada and it's a pretty cold frigid winter here), she'll strip down and try to run outside to stand on the back porch with just her underwear on.  When I found out about the serotonin thing, it all made sense -- she can't regulate temperature and is trying to cool down.  I use 5-HTP to help this -- it helps a little bit, but then we get an imbalance between dopamine and serotonin sometimes and I'm finding I need to use tyrosine with it so that dopamine doesn't get thrown out of balance. 

>> With my son, it might be something tactile, as lately, he's been wanting me to cut the tags off all clothes (not just his) and he's been trying to strip down.>>>>

>>>>  >>>> Hi everyone.>> My son is five with autism diagnosis. Lately (and he has done this>> before a year or two ago) he has been stripping off all his clothing and nappy too overnight and several times a day. His doc said it could be Pyrolles.

>> He gets agitated if I don't let him strip.>> I use a decent washing powder(hypoallergenic) for his>> clothing etc and havn't used anything new.>> He also has had an aversion to wearing his sandals for the last few

>> months. Has anyone had this experience or have>> any ideas what it may be?? And how to resolve?>> Debbie>>>>>>

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Re my previous e-mail:Treatment for Pyrolles (to my knowledge) is attributed to Zinc and B6 deficiency, which is common with our kids. Do you supplement with these? Urine test to confirm Pyroluria http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1OJ87eA0LgFound it interesting that the B6 deficiency worked towards a serotonin and dopamine deficiency. More pieces of the puzzle for us, even though we have already been supplementing with these because of other indications of a deficiency. We give B6 and DMG because it has been shown to improve SIB, the 5HTP and Tyrosine because plasma amino testing showed extremely low. Funny how you come to the same answer by a variety of tests. Excitotoxicity might explain it for my son. He'd never been a strip-down kind of kid until recently but i am seeing other symptoms of it with him. Hmmm...interesting, glad you mentioned it, . > >> I also use 5 HTP and tyrosine. My son does not strip off his clothes but it is for serotonin and dopamine levels to help with his anxiety.>> > >> >> Both of my kids have a tendency to do this. For them, this is related to serotonin levels. My daughter had been doing this long before my son had. She has had an OAT ran on her and her serotonin levels are low. She always wants to strip down because she can't regulate her body temperature properly so she tends to overheat a lot. She especially likes to bathe 2-3 times a day, just sitting under the running tap in the bathtub, sometimes she'll want to sit in the shower. Other times (and I'm in Canada and it's a pretty cold frigid winter here), she'll strip down and try to run outside to stand on the back porch with just her underwear on. When I found out about the serotonin thing, it all made sense -- she can't regulate temperature and is trying to cool down. I use 5-HTP to help this -- it helps a little bit, but then we get an imbalance between dopamine and serotonin sometimes and I'm finding I need to use tyrosine with it so that dopamine doesn't get thrown out of balance. >> With my son, it might be something tactile, as lately, he's been wanting me to cut the tags off all clothes (not just his) and he's been trying to strip down.>>>> >>>> >>>> Hi everyone.>> My son is five with autism diagnosis. Lately (and he has done this>> before a year or two ago) he has been stripping off all his clothing and nappy too overnight and several times a day. His doc said it could be Pyrolles. >> He gets agitated if I don't let him strip.>> I use a decent washing powder(hypoallergenic) for his>> clothing etc and havn't used anything new.>> He also has had an aversion to wearing his sandals for the last few >> months. Has anyone had this experience or have>> any ideas what it may be?? And how to resolve?>> Debbie>>>>>>

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Fantastic feedback and advice, thanks everyone. It all makes sense. I will look

into it further and will mention it to Megson at the outreach appointment.

Cheers

Debbie

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