Just got off the phone with CPS

[Guest guest]

So, we read on the state's website that CPS reports could be made in

person at the county office. But, the link to get the address for our

county office wasn't working, so I called & explained why we wanted to

go in person, due to having photos. They explained that reports have

to be made over the phone & that if we did show up there they would

just tell us to call the hotline. But, they gave me an email address

which I was able to use to send the photos.

This is not an easy thing to do. This is the 2nd time I've called on

this woman for her neglect of my step kids. The squalor... oh dear

god...

I am attaching a couple of photos to give you an idea of what we're

dealing with here. I have a feeling some of you here can absolutely

relate as I know some of your FOO's homes were squalorus.

ONe is of their mother's room with the nasty trash & empty beer cases

on the floor. The other is my step daughter's room. Note the nasty

rotting banana on the nasty mattress that they never put sheets on and

is, well, f'ing nasty.

Now, the post-horrible-stress shakes & freezing cold are hitting me.

Going to go meditate to try & relax.

Mia

[Guest guest]

Mia, good for you for doing this. I feel so awful for those children (I didn't

see the photo you attached, btw; I don't know if it came through on the board).

And I feel your shakes with you. God, what a terrible situation. Your husband

must feel so helpless as well.

You guys are heroes; good for you for fighting for these kids.

Fiona

>

> So, we read on the state's website that CPS reports could be made in

> person at the county office. But, the link to get the address for our

> county office wasn't working, so I called & explained why we wanted to

> go in person, due to having photos. They explained that reports have

> to be made over the phone & that if we did show up there they would

> just tell us to call the hotline. But, they gave me an email address

> which I was able to use to send the photos.

>

> This is not an easy thing to do. This is the 2nd time I've called on

> this woman for her neglect of my step kids. The squalor... oh dear

> god...

>

> I am attaching a couple of photos to give you an idea of what we're

> dealing with here. I have a feeling some of you here can absolutely

> relate as I know some of your FOO's homes were squalorus.

>

> ONe is of their mother's room with the nasty trash & empty beer cases

> on the floor. The other is my step daughter's room. Note the nasty

> rotting banana on the nasty mattress that they never put sheets on and

> is, well, f'ing nasty.

>

> Now, the post-horrible-stress shakes & freezing cold are hitting me.

> Going to go meditate to try & relax.

>

> Mia

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Fiona. Yeah, not sure if they would come through on the board

or not come to think of it. That's ok. I'm sure you've all seen a

squalorous living condition before. If not, may I suggest the TV show

" Hoarders " . (SHUDDER!!!!)

Yeah, hubby is feeling pretty helpless as well. It shouldn't have to

be the way it is. Children are people, not property just because of

their American Indian status. We respect that, we teach them about

their heritage, which is also MINE too on my nada's side, but I am not

on tribal roll. Wish I could prove my ancestry, but due to being NC

with nada, that's not a possibility. I can't otherwise get a copy of

her birth certificate to prove the lineage.

I'm not sure breaking NC with nada is worth it. Nor do I think she'd

just happily grant me access to her birth cert. after I've been NC for

nearly 3 years. Though I have heard it may help with custody of

hubby's kids, but again, even if I asked nada, it's out of my hands

and I'm SURE there would be some kind of unpleasantness to deal with

for even asking, or some horrible " condition " I'd have to meet in

order for her to comply. UGH.

I don't think it's worth it. Do you guys? (I'm seriously asking,

input is helpful. Especially if you know another way I can go about

getting a copy of her birth cert.)

Mia

>

>

>

> Mia, good for you for doing this. I feel so awful for those children (I didn't

see the photo you attached, btw; I don't know if it came through on the board).

>

> And I feel your shakes with you. God, what a terrible situation. Your husband

must feel so helpless as well.

>

> You guys are heroes; good for you for fighting for these kids.

>

> Fiona

>

>

>

>

> >

> > So, we read on the state's website that CPS reports could be made in

> > person at the county office. But, the link to get the address for our

> > county office wasn't working, so I called & explained why we wanted to

> > go in person, due to having photos. They explained that reports have

> > to be made over the phone & that if we did show up there they would

> > just tell us to call the hotline. But, they gave me an email address

> > which I was able to use to send the photos.

> >

> > This is not an easy thing to do. This is the 2nd time I've called on

> > this woman for her neglect of my step kids. The squalor... oh dear

> > god...

> >

> > I am attaching a couple of photos to give you an idea of what we're

> > dealing with here. I have a feeling some of you here can absolutely

> > relate as I know some of your FOO's homes were squalorus.

> >

> > ONe is of their mother's room with the nasty trash & empty beer cases

> > on the floor. The other is my step daughter's room. Note the nasty

> > rotting banana on the nasty mattress that they never put sheets on and

> > is, well, f'ing nasty.

> >

> > Now, the post-horrible-stress shakes & freezing cold are hitting me.

> > Going to go meditate to try & relax.

> >

> > Mia

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Is your nada registered with any tribe? (or do you know what tribe it is?)

If so, I wonder if they would give you a copy of of her birth cert. I'm not

sure about other ways of gaining access to it..I'd have to do some research

about that, especially in the case of estrangement, as the official term

is.

Hmm...

> Thanks Fiona. Yeah, not sure if they would come through on the board

> or not come to think of it. That's ok. I'm sure you've all seen a

> squalorous living condition before. If not, may I suggest the TV show

> " Hoarders " . (SHUDDER!!!!)

>

> Yeah, hubby is feeling pretty helpless as well. It shouldn't have to

> be the way it is. Children are people, not property just because of

> their American Indian status. We respect that, we teach them about

> their heritage, which is also MINE too on my nada's side, but I am not

> on tribal roll. Wish I could prove my ancestry, but due to being NC

> with nada, that's not a possibility. I can't otherwise get a copy of

> her birth certificate to prove the lineage.

>

> I'm not sure breaking NC with nada is worth it. Nor do I think she'd

> just happily grant me access to her birth cert. after I've been NC for

> nearly 3 years. Though I have heard it may help with custody of

> hubby's kids, but again, even if I asked nada, it's out of my hands

> and I'm SURE there would be some kind of unpleasantness to deal with

> for even asking, or some horrible " condition " I'd have to meet in

> order for her to comply. UGH.

>

> I don't think it's worth it. Do you guys? (I'm seriously asking,

> input is helpful. Especially if you know another way I can go about

> getting a copy of her birth cert.)

>

> Mia

>

>

> >

> >

> >

> > Mia, good for you for doing this. I feel so awful for those children (I

> didn't see the photo you attached, btw; I don't know if it came through on

> the board).

> >

> > And I feel your shakes with you. God, what a terrible situation. Your

> husband must feel so helpless as well.

> >

> > You guys are heroes; good for you for fighting for these kids.

> >

> > Fiona

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > >

> > > So, we read on the state's website that CPS reports could be made in

> > > person at the county office. But, the link to get the address for our

> > > county office wasn't working, so I called & explained why we wanted to

> > > go in person, due to having photos. They explained that reports have

> > > to be made over the phone & that if we did show up there they would

> > > just tell us to call the hotline. But, they gave me an email address

> > > which I was able to use to send the photos.

> > >

> > > This is not an easy thing to do. This is the 2nd time I've called on

> > > this woman for her neglect of my step kids. The squalor... oh dear

> > > god...

> > >

> > > I am attaching a couple of photos to give you an idea of what we're

> > > dealing with here. I have a feeling some of you here can absolutely

> > > relate as I know some of your FOO's homes were squalorus.

> > >

> > > ONe is of their mother's room with the nasty trash & empty beer cases

> > > on the floor. The other is my step daughter's room. Note the nasty

> > > rotting banana on the nasty mattress that they never put sheets on and

> > > is, well, f'ing nasty.

> > >

> > > Now, the post-horrible-stress shakes & freezing cold are hitting me.

> > > Going to go meditate to try & relax.

> > >

> > > Mia

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Mia,

A private detective comes to mind. They can get anything for anybody. You are

her daughter so it isn't you are trying to perpetrate identity theft and it

probably wouldn't cost too much.

Sent from my blueberry.

> Thanks Fiona. Yeah, not sure if they would come through on the board

> or not come to think of it. That's ok. I'm sure you've all seen a

> squalorous living condition before. If not, may I suggest the TV show

> " Hoarders " . (SHUDDER!!!!)

>

> Yeah, hubby is feeling pretty helpless as well. It shouldn't have to

> be the way it is. Children are people, not property just because of

> their American Indian status. We respect that, we teach them about

> their heritage, which is also MINE too on my nada's side, but I am not

> on tribal roll. Wish I could prove my ancestry, but due to being NC

> with nada, that's not a possibility. I can't otherwise get a copy of

> her birth certificate to prove the lineage.

>

> I'm not sure breaking NC with nada is worth it. Nor do I think she'd

> just happily grant me access to her birth cert. after I've been NC for

> nearly 3 years. Though I have heard it may help with custody of

> hubby's kids, but again, even if I asked nada, it's out of my hands

> and I'm SURE there would be some kind of unpleasantness to deal with

> for even asking, or some horrible " condition " I'd have to meet in

> order for her to comply. UGH.

>

> I don't think it's worth it. Do you guys? (I'm seriously asking,

> input is helpful. Especially if you know another way I can go about

> getting a copy of her birth cert.)

>

> Mia

>

>

>>

>>

>>

>> Mia, good for you for doing this. I feel so awful for those children (I

didn't see the photo you attached, btw; I don't know if it came through on the

board).

>>

>> And I feel your shakes with you. God, what a terrible situation. Your husband

must feel so helpless as well.

>>

>> You guys are heroes; good for you for fighting for these kids.

>>

>> Fiona

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>>

>>> So, we read on the state's website that CPS reports could be made in

>>> person at the county office. But, the link to get the address for our

>>> county office wasn't working, so I called & explained why we wanted to

>>> go in person, due to having photos. They explained that reports have

>>> to be made over the phone & that if we did show up there they would

>>> just tell us to call the hotline. But, they gave me an email address

>>> which I was able to use to send the photos.

>>>

>>> This is not an easy thing to do. This is the 2nd time I've called on

>>> this woman for her neglect of my step kids. The squalor... oh dear

>>> god...

>>>

>>> I am attaching a couple of photos to give you an idea of what we're

>>> dealing with here. I have a feeling some of you here can absolutely

>>> relate as I know some of your FOO's homes were squalorus.

>>>

>>> ONe is of their mother's room with the nasty trash & empty beer cases

>>> on the floor. The other is my step daughter's room. Note the nasty

>>> rotting banana on the nasty mattress that they never put sheets on and

>>> is, well, f'ing nasty.

>>>

>>> Now, the post-horrible-stress shakes & freezing cold are hitting me.

>>> Going to go meditate to try & relax.

>>>

>>> Mia

>>>

>>>

>>>

[Guest guest]

Could you contact the specific tribe that your nada would be considered a member

of, and ask her tribe to confirm that she is on their rolls? Or, is there

anyone from your nada's generation, a sibling of your nada's, whom you could

contact and ask to either retrieve nada's birth certificate for you or provide

their own birth certificate to help with this?

I am ignorant about such things, but, would not a person's birth be registered

in the county in which they were born? Maybe pursuing county records would turn

up confirmation that your nada was legally considered to be a Native American.

I too think you are a heroic person to try to rescue your husband's children

and give them the stable, loving, nurturing home life that all children need and

deserve.

-Annie

> > >

> > > So, we read on the state's website that CPS reports could be made in

> > > person at the county office. But, the link to get the address for our

> > > county office wasn't working, so I called & explained why we wanted to

> > > go in person, due to having photos. They explained that reports have

> > > to be made over the phone & that if we did show up there they would

> > > just tell us to call the hotline. But, they gave me an email address

> > > which I was able to use to send the photos.

> > >

> > > This is not an easy thing to do. This is the 2nd time I've called on

> > > this woman for her neglect of my step kids. The squalor... oh dear

> > > god...

> > >

> > > I am attaching a couple of photos to give you an idea of what we're

> > > dealing with here. I have a feeling some of you here can absolutely

> > > relate as I know some of your FOO's homes were squalorus.

> > >

> > > ONe is of their mother's room with the nasty trash & empty beer cases

> > > on the floor. The other is my step daughter's room. Note the nasty

> > > rotting banana on the nasty mattress that they never put sheets on and

> > > is, well, f'ing nasty.

> > >

> > > Now, the post-horrible-stress shakes & freezing cold are hitting me.

> > > Going to go meditate to try & relax.

> > >

> > > Mia

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

I have some Native American friends, so I'm asking them if there's any way

to prove Native status other than trying to get ahold of a copy of the

birth cert.

has a good point, too--a private detective might help, but I know

nothing about it.

> Thanks Fiona. Yeah, not sure if they would come through on the board

> or not come to think of it. That's ok. I'm sure you've all seen a

> squalorous living condition before. If not, may I suggest the TV show

> " Hoarders " . (SHUDDER!!!!)

>

> Yeah, hubby is feeling pretty helpless as well. It shouldn't have to

> be the way it is. Children are people, not property just because of

> their American Indian status. We respect that, we teach them about

> their heritage, which is also MINE too on my nada's side, but I am not

> on tribal roll. Wish I could prove my ancestry, but due to being NC

> with nada, that's not a possibility. I can't otherwise get a copy of

> her birth certificate to prove the lineage.

>

> I'm not sure breaking NC with nada is worth it. Nor do I think she'd

> just happily grant me access to her birth cert. after I've been NC for

> nearly 3 years. Though I have heard it may help with custody of

> hubby's kids, but again, even if I asked nada, it's out of my hands

> and I'm SURE there would be some kind of unpleasantness to deal with

> for even asking, or some horrible " condition " I'd have to meet in

> order for her to comply. UGH.

>

> I don't think it's worth it. Do you guys? (I'm seriously asking,

> input is helpful. Especially if you know another way I can go about

> getting a copy of her birth cert.)

>

> Mia

>

>

> >

> >

> >

> > Mia, good for you for doing this. I feel so awful for those children (I

> didn't see the photo you attached, btw; I don't know if it came through on

> the board).

> >

> > And I feel your shakes with you. God, what a terrible situation. Your

> husband must feel so helpless as well.

> >

> > You guys are heroes; good for you for fighting for these kids.

> >

> > Fiona

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > >

> > > So, we read on the state's website that CPS reports could be made in

> > > person at the county office. But, the link to get the address for our

> > > county office wasn't working, so I called & explained why we wanted to

> > > go in person, due to having photos. They explained that reports have

> > > to be made over the phone & that if we did show up there they would

> > > just tell us to call the hotline. But, they gave me an email address

> > > which I was able to use to send the photos.

> > >

> > > This is not an easy thing to do. This is the 2nd time I've called on

> > > this woman for her neglect of my step kids. The squalor... oh dear

> > > god...

> > >

> > > I am attaching a couple of photos to give you an idea of what we're

> > > dealing with here. I have a feeling some of you here can absolutely

> > > relate as I know some of your FOO's homes were squalorus.

> > >

> > > ONe is of their mother's room with the nasty trash & empty beer cases

> > > on the floor. The other is my step daughter's room. Note the nasty

> > > rotting banana on the nasty mattress that they never put sheets on and

> > > is, well, f'ing nasty.

> > >

> > > Now, the post-horrible-stress shakes & freezing cold are hitting me.

> > > Going to go meditate to try & relax.

> > >

> > > Mia

> > >

> > >

> > >