Re: Over and undermethylation issue, is there any relation to antihistamines?

[Guest guest]

is - We've done the Yasko testing and it was really helpful. WE had been able to look at the full pathway and see how the genetic components fit together. Most other methylation-related testing that i've seen is just not comprehensive enough to give you a full picture of what the issue/s may be. I actually didthe testing on myself, as well and my doc was really impressed with it and said she may switch to using that lab, vs the one she was using. Just one person's experience….Ruth

Hi everyone,

I am trying to figure out the cause of hyperactivity and stimming in my kid and finally started reading up on methylation issue. Just wanted to see if someone can explain a couple of things to me. My son has been on methylb12 shots for the last 1 year and before that he took mb12 lolipops for 1 year. Since we started the shots, he became more stimmy. But at the same time I saw better academic performance(which is of course an improvement that I can see and it is still way below his age level). So I just continued on. His old dan put him on 5MTHF also which seemed like helped initially but then he became even more stimmy. I noticed that on antihistamines, he is a little less stimmy but that could be the central action of antihistamine making the child a little sleepy or drowsy. I am trying to understand that if my child is an overmethylator, supplementing with MB12 and MTHF will make him more stimmy and hyperactive and his histamine level should be low. Is there any relation to the histamine level that we test for methylation issue and antihistamines? I have my appointment with dan in an hour and I will check the histamine level, MTHFR and see if he believes in Yasko's testing or if tests in some other ways for the methylation pathways. Can someone explain this methylation issue and histamine issue to me? I will really appreciate all the help.

Thanks

is

[Guest guest]

just a shot in the dark but i think histamine and inflammation are two diffrent things...and again just a guess but maybe the benedryl helps with the inflammation and that is the positive response you see?

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Monday, March 5, 2012 6:22 PMSubject: Re: Over and undermethylation issue, is there any relation to antihistamines?

is - We've done the Yasko testing and it was really helpful. WE had been able to look at the full pathway and see how the genetic components fit together. Most other methylation-related testing that i've seen is just not comprehensive enough to give you a full picture of what the issue/s may be. I actually didthe testing on myself, as well and my doc was really impressed with it and said she may switch to using that lab, vs the one she was using. Just one person's experience….

Ruth

Hi everyone,I am trying to figure out the cause of hyperactivity and stimming in my kid and finally started reading up on methylation issue. Just wanted to see if someone can explain a couple of things to me. My son has been on methylb12 shots for the last 1 year and before that he took mb12 lolipops for 1 year. Since we started the shots, he became more stimmy. But at the same time I saw better academic performance(which is of course an improvement that I can see and it is still way below his age level). So I just continued on. His old dan put him on 5MTHF also which seemed like helped initially but then he became even more stimmy. I noticed that on antihistamines, he is a little less stimmy but that could be the central action of antihistamine making the child a little sleepy or drowsy. I am trying to understand that if my child is an overmethylator, supplementing with MB12 and MTHF will make him more stimmy and hyperactive and his histamine

level should be low. Is there any relation to the histamine level that we test for methylation issue and antihistamines? I have my appointment with dan in an hour and I will check the histamine level, MTHFR and see if he believes in Yasko's testing or if tests in some other ways for the methylation pathways. Can someone explain this methylation issue and histamine issue to me? I will really appreciate all the help.Thanksis

[Guest guest]

Hi alexis, we still don't have our yasko results yet but just wanted to let you know your dan might not be a fan...our long time dan wasn't really excited that we had done it but I think it will be helpful bc my kids have had so many problems with the dan approach (throw a bunch of supplements at them and see what sticks)...by the way, you don't need a prescript or anything from the dan, you can just order the test and do it yourself...i think there are some politics between dan and yasko...they are approaches...-- Sent from my Palm Pre

is - We've done the Yasko testing and it was really helpful. WE had been able to look at the full pathway and see how the genetic components fit together. Most other methylation-related testing that i've seen is just not comprehensive enough to give you a full picture of what the issue/s may be. I actually didthe testing on myself, as well and my doc was really impressed with it and said she may switch to using that lab, vs the one she was using. Just one person's experience….Ruth

Hi everyone,

I am trying to figure out the cause of hyperactivity and stimming in my kid and finally started reading up on methylation issue. Just wanted to see if someone can explain a couple of things to me. My son has been on methylb12 shots for the last 1 year and before that he took mb12 lolipops for 1 year. Since we started the shots, he became more stimmy. But at the same time I saw better academic performance(which is of course an improvement that I can see and it is still way below his age level). So I just continued on. His old dan put him on 5MTHF also which seemed like helped initially but then he became even more stimmy. I noticed that on antihistamines, he is a little less stimmy but that could be the central action of antihistamine making the child a little sleepy or drowsy. I am trying to understand that if my child is an overmethylator, supplementing with MB12 and MTHF will make him more stimmy and hyperactive and his histamine level should be low. Is there any relation to the histamine level that we test for methylation issue and antihistamines? I have my appointment with dan in an hour and I will check the histamine level, MTHFR and see if he believes in Yasko's testing or if tests in some other ways for the methylation pathways. Can someone explain this methylation issue and histamine issue to me? I will really appreciate all the help.

Thanks

is

[Guest guest]

Oops, meant to finish with different approaches!-- Sent from my Palm Pre

Hi alexis, we still don't have our yasko results yet but just wanted to let you know your dan might not be a fan...our long time dan wasn't really excited that we had done it but I think it will be helpful bc my kids have had so many problems with the dan approach (throw a bunch of supplements at them and see what sticks)...by the way, you don't need a prescript or anything from the dan, you can just order the test and do it yourself...i think there are some politics between dan and yasko...they are approaches...-- Sent from my Palm Pre

is - We've done the Yasko testing and it was really helpful. WE had been able to look at the full pathway and see how the genetic components fit together. Most other methylation-related testing that i've seen is just not comprehensive enough to give you a full picture of what the issue/s may be. I actually didthe testing on myself, as well and my doc was really impressed with it and said she may switch to using that lab, vs the one she was using. Just one person's experience….Ruth

Hi everyone,

I am trying to figure out the cause of hyperactivity and stimming in my kid and finally started reading up on methylation issue. Just wanted to see if someone can explain a couple of things to me. My son has been on methylb12 shots for the last 1 year and before that he took mb12 lolipops for 1 year. Since we started the shots, he became more stimmy. But at the same time I saw better academic performance(which is of course an improvement that I can see and it is still way below his age level). So I just continued on. His old dan put him on 5MTHF also which seemed like helped initially but then he became even more stimmy. I noticed that on antihistamines, he is a little less stimmy but that could be the central action of antihistamine making the child a little sleepy or drowsy. I am trying to understand that if my child is an overmethylator, supplementing with MB12 and MTHF will make him more stimmy and hyperactive and his histamine level should be low. Is there any relation to the histamine level that we test for methylation issue and antihistamines? I have my appointment with dan in an hour and I will check the histamine level, MTHFR and see if he believes in Yasko's testing or if tests in some other ways for the methylation pathways. Can someone explain this methylation issue and histamine issue to me? I will really appreciate all the help.

Thanks

is

[Guest guest]

Ruth,which one of yasko testing you did ? and also I was wondering after you do the test ,when the result comes is there any recommendation on it and also if they interpret the test, I would love to do it but hate to spend another big chunk of money with no result,ThanksLili To: mb12valtrex Sent: Monday, March 5, 2012 6:22 PM Subject: Re: Over and undermethylation issue, is there any relation to antihistamines?

is - We've done the Yasko testing and it was really helpful. WE had been able to look at the full pathway and see how the genetic components fit together. Most other methylation-related testing that i've seen is just not comprehensive enough to give you a full picture of what the issue/s may be. I actually didthe testing on myself, as well and my doc was really impressed with it and said she may switch to using that lab, vs the one she was using. Just one person's experience….Ruth

Hi everyone,

I am trying to figure out the cause of hyperactivity and stimming in my kid and finally started reading up on methylation issue. Just wanted to see if someone can explain a couple of things to me. My son has been on methylb12 shots for the last 1 year and before that he took mb12 lolipops for 1 year. Since we started the shots, he became more stimmy. But at the same time I saw better academic performance(which is of course an improvement that I can see and it is still way below his age level). So I just continued on. His old dan put him on 5MTHF also which seemed like helped initially but then he became even more stimmy. I noticed that on antihistamines, he is a little less stimmy but that could be the central action of antihistamine making the child a little sleepy or drowsy. I am trying to understand that if my child is an overmethylator, supplementing with MB12 and MTHF will make him more stimmy and hyperactive and his histamine level should be low.

Is there any relation to the histamine level that we test for methylation issue and antihistamines? I have my appointment with dan in an hour and I will check the histamine level, MTHFR and see if he believes in Yasko's testing or if tests in some other ways for the methylation pathways. Can someone explain this methylation issue and histamine issue to me? I will really appreciate all the help.

Thanks

is

[Guest guest]

This is the test we did. http://www.holisticheal.com/health-tests/nutrigenomic-testing/comprehensive-methylation-panel-with-methylation-pathway-analysis.html. It comes with a bit of analysis and a book and a cd, to help you to understand it. IT's all quite technical and it was a bit hard for me to get the whole picture in my head in a really cohesive way. I'd say I got a good "gist" of the test. Our DAN interpreted the test more fully for me, and makes supplement recommendations on light of the info we received. WE have a lot of stuff going on, and for us, having a full picture has really helped, so all treatments we do keep methylation in mind. We did not, however, order any sups or RNA products through Amy Yasko and we did not do her protocol. We just sued the information to guide treatment.HTH, Ruth

Ruth,which one of yasko testing you did ? and also I was wondering after you do the test ,when the result comes is there any recommendation on it and also if they interpret the test, I would love to do it but hate to spend another big chunk of money with no result,ThanksLili To: mb12valtrex Sent: Monday, March 5, 2012 6:22 PM Subject: Re: Over and undermethylation issue, is there any relation to antihistamines?

is - We've done the Yasko testing and it was really helpful. WE had been able to look at the full pathway and see how the genetic components fit together. Most other methylation-related testing that i've seen is just not comprehensive enough to give you a full picture of what the issue/s may be. I actually didthe testing on myself, as well and my doc was really impressed with it and said she may switch to using that lab, vs the one she was using. Just one person's experience….Ruth

Hi everyone,

I am trying to figure out the cause of hyperactivity and stimming in my kid and finally started reading up on methylation issue. Just wanted to see if someone can explain a couple of things to me. My son has been on methylb12 shots for the last 1 year and before that he took mb12 lolipops for 1 year. Since we started the shots, he became more stimmy. But at the same time I saw better academic performance(which is of course an improvement that I can see and it is still way below his age level). So I just continued on. His old dan put him on 5MTHF also which seemed like helped initially but then he became even more stimmy. I noticed that on antihistamines, he is a little less stimmy but that could be the central action of antihistamine making the child a little sleepy or drowsy. I am trying to understand that if my child is an overmethylator, supplementing with MB12 and MTHF will make him more stimmy and hyperactive and his histamine level should be low.

Is there any relation to the histamine level that we test for methylation issue and antihistamines? I have my appointment with dan in an hour and I will check the histamine level, MTHFR and see if he believes in Yasko's testing or if tests in some other ways for the methylation pathways. Can someone explain this methylation issue and histamine issue to me? I will really appreciate all the help.

Thanks

is

[Guest guest]

Tom showed no growth for lactobacillus and e. coli . E-coli manufactures your b vitamins and vitamin k.

I wonder if you guys would have success using transdermal b12 til you can get a handle on the yeast?

Some people love it, some don't. You know how that goes.....

I know some people on the scia Protocol are using dexoprofin (???). There's also naturals to consider (did you mention using enhansa before?). Channa can probably reel them all off to you.

Good luck, mama. I know how you're working to figure this all out. Please don't feel obligated to respond to all my hair-brained schemes. (just the really good or really bad ones. ; )

Tammy

Sent from my Kindle Fire

Sent: Tue Mar 06 13:51:30 EST 2012

To: mb12valtrex

Subject: Re: Over and undermethylation issue, is there any relation to antihistamines?

Thanks Tammy! His last OATs was just a microbial one which showed markers for yeast. He had a comprehensive one with metamatrix in july which was useless. I am repeating a comprehensive OAT and then we will treat accordingly. He definitely shows signs of yeast with giggling, hanging upside down, climbing, craving for carbs etc. We just finished a month of diflucan. He is getting a little break. We started him on ketotifen eye drops orally and then I am getting it compounded also. That will act as an antiinflammatory also as it decreases TNF alpha release. I will see how it goes with that. I have started reading about the SCIA protocol but the NSAIDS part is a little scary especially as my son has bad reflux and acid issue. I am definitely interested in any info that you have regarding the oat results of your son. I have always suspected that there is a relation between B12 and yeast flares but then taking him off B12 means losing all the acquired skills. My son is just

taking 4 caps of vitaspectrum which contains all the Bs and other vitamin and minerals. I also use P5P by thorne 50 mgs daily with 100 mg of magnesium glycinate. The rest of the magnesium I give separately. Thanks for your help.

is

> >

> > I noticed the same for my son but he hardly spoke before b12 shots and now i can hardly keep him quiet. Also i noticed that when i removed his 5mhth for more than 2 days he was very moody ? Im excited to see what you find out. Inflammation can also result drom allergic reactions.

> >

> > Over and undermethylation issue, is there any relation to antihistamines?

> >

> >

> > Hi everyone,

> > I am trying to figure out the cause of hyperactivity and stimming in my kid and finally started reading up on methylation issue. Just wanted to see if someone can explain a couple of things to me. My son has been on methylb12 shots for the last 1 year and before that he took mb12 lolipops for 1 year. Since we started the shots, he became more stimmy. But at the same time I saw better academic performance(which is of course an improvement that I can see and it is still way below his age level). So I just continued on. His old dan put him on 5MTHF also which seemed like helped initially but then he became even more stimmy. I noticed that on antihistamines, he is a little less stimmy but that could be the central action of antihistamine making the child a little sleepy or drowsy. I am trying to understand that if my child is an overmethylator, supplementing with MB12 and MTHF will make him more stimmy and hyperactive and his histamine level should be low. Is there any

relation to the

> histamine level that we test for methylation issue and antihistamines? I have my appointment with dan in an hour and I will check the histamine level, MTHFR and see if he believes in Yasko's testing or if tests in some other ways for the methylation pathways. Can someone explain this methylation issue and histamine issue to me? I will really appreciate all the help.

> > Thanks

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[Guest guest]

body biotics

for natural amtiinflammatory i really like neuroprotek with phosposerine (not spelled right)

the PS andneuroprotek together seemed to be an amazing combination..however PS will lower cortisol which may be good depeding on the kid.

it is really expensive so i recently ordered frankencense essentail oil by young oils..

i have heard it is the strongest antiinflammatory around...as far as herbal stuff goes...

longvida is suppose to be also very good...

as far as antifungals...my son has always been a bacteria kind of guy....so not a whole lot of experience with antifungals other then GSE , OoO, have heard about samento bein a good one...myrhh essentail oil is good for mold so i would think that would be good for yeast as well...

i know everyone sick of me saying this but high yeast is caused by the body trying to protect itself from the mercury...this is one very real cause of it.many many stories of yeast not goin away till a good number of low dose chelation rounds...

i am trying to bring my poor sorry kefir grains back to life after keeping them locked in the closet for a couple months...but felt they were good for yeast..but exploded bacteria in my son...

I also heard thru grapevine about body biotics being really good soil based probiotics that kick yeast and bactiera but...

I would love to look into this becuase the more we keep givin our kids fighters ..the more it weakens our kids own ability to fight stuff....is what my belief is....so the kefir grains or soil based probiotics help fight the yeast and bacteria in a way to support the immune system to take over...

and that all i can find in my brain right now...

channa

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2012 3:25 PMSubject: Re: Re: Over and undermethylation issue, is there any relation to antihistamines?

Tom showed no growth for lactobacillus and e. coli . E-coli manufactures your b vitamins and vitamin k.

I wonder if you guys would have success using transdermal b12 til you can get a handle on the yeast?Some people love it, some don't. You know how that goes.....

I know some people on the scia Protocol are using dexoprofin (???). There's also naturals to consider (did you mention using enhansa before?). Channa can probably reel them all off to you.

Good luck, mama. I know how you're working to figure this all out. Please don't feel obligated to respond to all my hair-brained schemes. (just the really good or really bad ones. ; )

TammySent from my Kindle Fire

Sent: .

[Guest guest]

Are you having good results doing it this way now Ruth? Thanks,Tammy

F.

 

This is the test we did.  http://www.holisticheal.com/health-tests/nutrigenomic-testing/comprehensive-methylation-panel-with-methylation-pathway-analysis.html.

 It comes with a bit of analysis and a book and a cd, to

help you to understand it.  IT's all quite technical and

it was a bit hard for me to get the whole picture in my

head in a really cohesive way.  I'd say I got a good

"gist" of the test.  Our DAN interpreted the test more

fully for me, and makes supplement recommendations on

light of the info we received.  WE have a lot of stuff

going on, and for us, having a full picture has really

helped, so all treatments we do keep methylation in mind.

 We did not, however, order any sups or RNA products

through Amy Yasko and we did not do her protocol.  We just

sued the information to guide treatment.

HTH, 

Ruth

 

Ruth,

which one of yasko testing you did ? and

also I was wondering after you do the test

,when the result comes is there any

recommendation on it and also if they

interpret the test, I would love to do it but

hate to spend another big chunk of money with

no result,

Thanks

Lili

From:

Setlak

To:

mb12valtrex

Sent:

Monday, March 5, 2012 6:22 PM

Subject:

Re: Over and

undermethylation issue, is there any

relation to antihistamines?

 

is - We've done the Yasko

testing and it was really helpful.

 WE had been able to look at the

full pathway and see how the genetic

components fit together.  Most other

methylation-related testing that

i've seen is just not comprehensive

enough to give you a full picture of

what the issue/s may be.  I actually

didthe testing on myself, as well

and my doc was really impressed with

it and said she may switch to using

that lab, vs the one she was using.

 Just one person's experience….

Ruth

On Mar 5, 2012, at 2:56 PM,

alexis_d3378 wrote:

 

Hi everyone,

I am trying to figure out

the cause of hyperactivity

and stimming in my kid and

finally started reading up

on methylation issue. Just

wanted to see if someone

can explain a couple of

things to me. My son has

been on methylb12 shots

for the last 1 year and

before that he took mb12

lolipops for 1 year. Since

we started the shots, he

became more stimmy. But at

the same time I saw better

academic performance(which

is of course an

improvement that I can see

and it is still way below

his age level). So I just

continued on. His old dan

put him on 5MTHF also

which seemed like helped

initially but then he

became even more stimmy. I

noticed that on

antihistamines, he is a

little less stimmy but

that could be the central

action of antihistamine

making the child a little

sleepy or drowsy. I am

trying to understand that

if my child is an

overmethylator,

supplementing with MB12

and MTHF will make him

more stimmy and

hyperactive and his

histamine level should be

low. Is there any relation

to the histamine level

that we test for

methylation issue and

antihistamines? I have my

appointment with dan in an

hour and I will check the

histamine level, MTHFR and

see if he believes in

Yasko's testing or if

tests in some other ways

for the methylation

pathways. Can someone

explain this methylation

issue and histamine issue

to me? I will really

appreciate all the help.

Thanks

is

[Guest guest]

OH yes. THis has really helped all of us. We don't have the best genetics, unfortunately, so it also creates a sense of urgency for us, and lets us know what we may need to supplement long-term.Ruth

Are you having good results doing it this way now Ruth? Thanks,Tammy

F.

This is the test we did. http://www.holisticheal.com/health-tests/nutrigenomic-testing/comprehensive-methylation-panel-with-methylation-pathway-analysis.html.

It comes with a bit of analysis and a book and a cd, to

help you to understand it. IT's all quite technical and

it was a bit hard for me to get the whole picture in my

head in a really cohesive way. I'd say I got a good

"gist" of the test. Our DAN interpreted the test more

fully for me, and makes supplement recommendations on

light of the info we received. WE have a lot of stuff

going on, and for us, having a full picture has really

helped, so all treatments we do keep methylation in mind.

We did not, however, order any sups or RNA products

through Amy Yasko and we did not do her protocol. We just

sued the information to guide treatment.

HTH,

Ruth

Ruth,

which one of yasko testing you did ? and

also I was wondering after you do the test

,when the result comes is there any

recommendation on it and also if they

interpret the test, I would love to do it but

hate to spend another big chunk of money with

no result,

Thanks

Lili

From:

Setlak

To:

mb12valtrex

Sent:

Monday, March 5, 2012 6:22 PM

Subject:

Re: Over and

undermethylation issue, is there any

relation to antihistamines?

is - We've done the Yasko

testing and it was really helpful.

WE had been able to look at the

full pathway and see how the genetic

components fit together. Most other

methylation-related testing that

i've seen is just not comprehensive

enough to give you a full picture of

what the issue/s may be. I actually

didthe testing on myself, as well

and my doc was really impressed with

it and said she may switch to using

that lab, vs the one she was using.

Just one person's experience….

Ruth

On Mar 5, 2012, at 2:56 PM,

alexis_d3378 wrote:

Hi everyone,

I am trying to figure out

the cause of hyperactivity

and stimming in my kid and

finally started reading up

on methylation issue. Just

wanted to see if someone

can explain a couple of

things to me. My son has

been on methylb12 shots

for the last 1 year and

before that he took mb12

lolipops for 1 year. Since

we started the shots, he

became more stimmy. But at

the same time I saw better

academic performance(which

is of course an

improvement that I can see

and it is still way below

his age level). So I just

continued on. His old dan

put him on 5MTHF also

which seemed like helped

initially but then he

became even more stimmy. I

noticed that on

antihistamines, he is a

little less stimmy but

that could be the central

action of antihistamine

making the child a little

sleepy or drowsy. I am

trying to understand that

if my child is an

overmethylator,

supplementing with MB12

and MTHF will make him

more stimmy and

hyperactive and his

histamine level should be

low. Is there any relation

to the histamine level

that we test for

methylation issue and

antihistamines? I have my

appointment with dan in an

hour and I will check the

histamine level, MTHFR and

see if he believes in

Yasko's testing or if

tests in some other ways

for the methylation

pathways. Can someone

explain this methylation

issue and histamine issue

to me? I will really

appreciate all the help.

Thanks

is

[Guest guest]

This looks great. How unfortunate that New York residents can not obtain the test. Sometimes I wonder why I live in this state!

Cristine

Re: Over and undermethylation issue, is there any relation to antihistamines?

is - We've done the Yasko testing and it was really helpful. WE had been able to look at the full pathway and see how the genetic components fit together. Most other methylation-related testing that i've seen is just not comprehensive enough to give you a full picture of what the issue/s may be. I actually didthe testing on myself, as well and my doc was really impressed with it and said she may switch to using that lab, vs the one she was using. Just one person's experience….

Ruth

Hi everyone,I am trying to figure out the cause of hyperactivity and stimming in my kid and finally started reading up on methylation issue. Just wanted to see if someone can explain a couple of things to me. My son has been on methylb12 shots for the last 1 year and before that he took mb12 lolipops for 1 year. Since we started the shots, he became more stimmy. But at the same time I saw better academic performance(which is of course an improvement that I can see and it is still way below his age level). So I just continued on. His old dan put him on 5MTHF also which seemed like helped initially but then he became even more stimmy. I noticed that on antihistamines, he is a little less stimmy but that could be the central action of antihistamine making the child a little sleepy or drowsy. I am trying to understand that if my child is an overmethylator, supplementing with MB12 and MTHF will make him more stimmy and hyperactive and his histamine level should be low. Is there any relation to the histamine level that we test for methylation issue and antihistamines? I have my appointment with dan in an hour and I will check the histamine level, MTHFR and see if he believes in Yasko's testing or if tests in some other ways for the methylation pathways. Can someone explain this methylation issue and histamine issue to me? I will really appreciate all the help.Thanksis

[Guest guest]

Wonderful.I have been on the fence on this test just because I have

done other Genetic tests,but they have not given a complete

picture.That is very frustrating.Thanks for the nudge.I just bought

it.

Best Regards,Tammy F.

 

OH yes.  THis has really helped all of us.  We don't have

the best genetics, unfortunately, so it also creates a

sense of urgency for us, and lets us know what we may need

to supplement long-term.

Ruth

 

Are you having good results doing it this way

now Ruth? Thanks,Tammy F.

 

This is the test we did.  http://www.holisticheal.com/health-tests/nutrigenomic-testing/comprehensive-methylation-panel-with-methylation-pathway-analysis.html.

 It comes with a bit of analysis and a book

and a cd, to help you to understand it.

 IT's all quite technical and it was a bit

hard for me to get the whole picture in my

head in a really cohesive way.  I'd say I

got a good "gist" of the test.  Our DAN

interpreted the test more fully for me, and

makes supplement recommendations on light of

the info we received.  WE have a lot of

stuff going on, and for us, having a full

picture has really helped, so all treatments

we do keep methylation in mind.  We did not,

however, order any sups or RNA products

through Amy Yasko and we did not do her

protocol.  We just sued the information to

guide treatment.

HTH, 

Ruth

On Mar 5, 2012, at 7:12 PM, Lili K

wrote:

 

Ruth,

which one of yasko testing

you did ? and also I was

wondering after you do the test

,when the result comes is there

any recommendation on it and

also if they interpret the test,

I would love to do it but hate

to spend another big chunk of

money with no result,

Thanks

Lili

From:

Setlak

To:

mb12valtrex

Sent:

Monday, March 5, 2012 6:22

PM

Subject:

Re: Over and

undermethylation issue, is

there any relation to

antihistamines?

 

is - We've done

the Yasko testing and

it was really helpful.

 WE had been able to

look at the full

pathway and see how

the genetic components

fit together.  Most

other

methylation-related

testing that i've seen

is just not

comprehensive enough

to give you a full

picture of what the

issue/s may be.  I

actually didthe

testing on myself, as

well and my doc was

really impressed with

it and said she may

switch to using that

lab, vs the one she

was using.  Just one

person's experience….

Ruth

On Mar 5, 2012,

at 2:56 PM,

alexis_d3378

wrote:

 

Hi

everyone,

I am trying to

figure out the

cause of

hyperactivity

and stimming

in my kid and

finally

started

reading up on

methylation

issue. Just

wanted to see

if someone can

explain a

couple of

things to me.

My son has

been on

methylb12

shots for the

last 1 year

and before

that he took

mb12 lolipops

for 1 year.

Since we

started the

shots, he

became more

stimmy. But at

the same time

I saw better

academic

performance(which

is of course

an improvement

that I can see

and it is

still way

below his age

level). So I

just continued

on. His old

dan put him on

5MTHF also

which seemed

like helped

initially but

then he became

even more

stimmy. I

noticed that

on

antihistamines,

he is a little

less stimmy

but that could

be the central

action of

antihistamine

making the

child a little

sleepy or

drowsy. I am

trying to

understand

that if my

child is an

overmethylator,

supplementing

with MB12 and

MTHF will make

him more

stimmy and

hyperactive

and his

histamine

level should

be low. Is

there any

relation to

the histamine

level that we

test for

methylation

issue and

antihistamines?

I have my

appointment

with dan in an

hour and I

will check the

histamine

level, MTHFR

and see if he

believes in

Yasko's

testing or if

tests in some

other ways for

the

methylation

pathways. Can

someone

explain this

methylation

issue and

histamine

issue to me? I

will really

appreciate all

the help.

Thanks

is

[Guest guest]

Thank u so much Channa and Tammy! Samento/cats claw is a good idea. My son is

already on longvida with no phenol. I am adding ketotifen this week and see how

that goes. I will save the list u suggested Channa. Thank u all for helping my

child. And thanks Ruth for the link to nutrigenomic test. This is the info I was

looking for and each time I visited Yasko website, I could'nt locate it.

is

>

> body biotics

> for natural amtiinflammatory i really like neuroprotek with phosposerine (not

spelled right)

> the PS andneuroprotek together seemed to be an amazing combination..however PS

will lower cortisol which may be good depeding on the kid.

> it is really expensive so i recently ordered frankencense essentail oil by

young oils..

> i have heard it is the strongest antiinflammatory around...as far as herbal

stuff goes...

>  

> longvida is suppose to be also very good...

> as far as antifungals...my son has always been a bacteria kind of guy....so

not a whole lot of experience with antifungals other then GSE , OoO, have heard

about samento bein a good one...myrhh essentail oil is good for mold so i would

think that would be good for yeast as well...

>  

> i know everyone sick of me saying this but high yeast is caused by the body

trying to protect itself from the mercury...this is one very real cause of

it.many many stories of yeast not goin away till a good number of low dose

chelation rounds...

>  

> i am trying to bring my poor sorry kefir grains back to life after keeping

them locked in the closet for a couple months...but felt they were good for

yeast..but exploded bacteria in my son...

>  

> I also heard thru grapevine about body biotics being really good soil based

probiotics that kick yeast and bactiera but...

> I would love to look into this becuase the more we keep givin our kids

fighters ..the more it weakens our kids own ability to fight stuff....is what my

belief is....so the kefir grains or soil based probiotics help fight the yeast

and bacteria in a way to support the immune system to take over...

> and that all i can find in my brain right now...

> channa

>  

>

>

> ________________________________

>

> To: mb12valtrex

> Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2012 3:25 PM

> Subject: Re: Re: Over and undermethylation issue, is there any

relation to antihistamines?

>

>

>  

> Tom showed no growth for lactobacillus and e. coli .  E-coli manufactures your

b vitamins and vitamin k.

> I wonder if you guys would have success using transdermal b12 til you can get

a handle on the yeast?

> Some people love it, some don't. You know how that goes.....

> I know some people on the scia Protocol are using dexoprofin (???).  There's

also naturals to consider (did you mention using enhansa before?). Channa can

probably reel them all off to you.

> Good luck, mama. I know how you're working to figure this all out. Please

don't feel obligated to respond to all my hair-brained schemes. (just the really

good or really bad ones. ; )

> TammySent from my Kindle Fire

>

>

>

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>

> Sent: .

>

[Guest guest]

oh and I just forgot that pau d arco is also spose be very good for fighting yeast...it as far as i know is not high phenol...

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2012 11:49 PMSubject: Re: Over and undermethylation issue, is there any relation to antihistamines?

Thank u so much Channa and Tammy! Samento/cats claw is a good idea. My son is already on longvida with no phenol. I am adding ketotifen this week and see how that goes. I will save the list u suggested Channa. Thank u all for helping my child. And thanks Ruth for the link to nutrigenomic test. This is the info I was looking for and each time I visited Yasko website, I could'nt locate it. is>> body Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Unsubscribe • Terms of

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[Guest guest]

Yes - if your blood histamine and blood homocysteine are very low, it means you are an over-methylator; if they are very high you are an under-methylator

To: mb12valtrex From: channabrennon@...Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 05:12:21 -0800Subject: Re: Re: Over and undermethylation issue, is there any relation to antihistamines?

oh and I just forgot that pau d arco is also spose be very good for fighting yeast...it as far as i know is not high phenol...

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2012 11:49 PMSubject: Re: Over and undermethylation issue, is there any relation to antihistamines?

Thank u so much Channa and Tammy! Samento/cats claw is a good idea. My son is already on longvida with no phenol. I am adding ketotifen this week and see how that goes. I will save the list u suggested Channa. Thank u all for helping my child. And thanks Ruth for the link to nutrigenomic test. This is the info I was looking for and each time I visited Yasko website, I could'nt locate it. is>> body Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use

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