Guest guest Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 Asye, I only have a minute, so sorry for the quick answer. Since he was doing well before on the NDF, put him back on it. One of the kids in our WA group is doing well on both. I believe you need binder on board since you have reached a behaviour situation. In addition to the Immusist & NDF, the child in our WA group also did much better adding in Alfalfa...she started him on 3 tablets...if I remember correctly it was 2x a day. As the mom ramped up the dose she also ended up adding in some anti-virals (for this child this was Monolaurin) & the child also went through a pretty tough strep layer requiring additional intervention (the strep layer was one that we dealt w/aggression). The base layer of Immusist, NDF, good minerals, good diet has been the constant for the last year....this child has come from pretty much non-verbal to very verbal. If he's showing yeasty symptoms, a good yeast protocol would be important too....Here's a list for you from our docs Powerpoint...hope it helps: " Clinical signs of yeast/fungus • Gas and bloating • Lower abdomen is resistant to weight loss • Kids- high pitched squealing, silly , flushed cheeks and stimming • White coating on the tongue • Brain fog and fatigue • Vaginal or anal irritation/itching/redness • Headaches • Weakness/ fatigue • Sugar cravings • Stinky BM's • Light sensitivity • Rashes • Memory loss or concentration difficulties • Joint pain and morning stiffness • Shortness of breath • Sinus congestion • Numbness and tingling • Skin sensitivity • Muscle aches and pains Treating Fungal Issues • Diflucan (Fluconazole) for 1-3 months continuous (this also helps to address the Lyme issue)- it is also inexpensive now • Rizol Gamma- oral, topical or rectal • Amphotericin B (250mg BID oral dosing for 6 weeks) • Brainchild Nutritionals yeast rotation • Probiotics (like Klaire Therbiotic Complete, VSL#3, Custom Probiotics or BioImmersion Beta Glucan probiotic to stimulate gut immunity) Treating Fungal Issues • Saccharomyces (Florastor)- DAN! protocols now say to use up to 9 daily!!! • Grapefruit Seed Extract- (hint: it hides best in grapefruit juice) • Candicid Forte (herbal blend without garlic) • Nystatin for 1-3 months or longer (wimpy) • Ketoconazole or Sporanox in more severe cases • For external yeast-related irritation, keep area clean and dry, apply clay-based powder like Magick Baby and clean area with diluted vinegar wash (www.magickbotanicals.com) " > > Hello everyone, > > We started using Immusist for my son. Initially it made a HUGE difference > on digestion and sleep. It made his stools formed. That was really nice. > However, he is doing bad in terms of behavior. He is more hyper,more > aggressive, cries to everything and very stimmy. His stools are also not as > good as when we first started Immusist. He is also showing yeasty > symptoms(probably not related to immusist). We are at 2x2drops for now. > Does this mean it is time for binders? I give him 2 capsules of charcoal > once a week but it does not seem to help. Or should I stop using Immusist? > I am worrying about the redistribution thing. I am open to any suggestions > on what is going on with my son and how I can help him relax a bit. > > And Rita if you read this, how do I use NDF as a binder? If it is Ok to use > NDF as a binder,how do I dose it and when do I give it. I have been using > NDF as a chelator for years and stopped it after starting immusist. I > thought both would bee too much on him. > > Ayse > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 Rita, Have you had any people in your WA group with older children on Immunist? How have they responded? My son just turned 16. He has been on Immunist for 2 months. There really has been no change except that he goes to sleep early now and sleeps 11-12 hours through the night which is FANTASTIC!! I was looking for an increase in his expressive language. How long does it normally take for older children to respond to this product? > Asye, > I only have a minute, so sorry for the quick answer. > Since he was doing well before on the NDF, put him back on it. One of the > kids in our WA group is doing well on both. I believe you need binder on > board since you have reached a behaviour situation. In addition to the > Immusist & NDF, the child in our WA group also did much better adding in > Alfalfa...she started him on 3 tablets...if I remember correctly it was 2x a > day. As the mom ramped up the dose she also ended up adding in some > anti-virals (for this child this was Monolaurin) & the child also went > through a pretty tough strep layer requiring additional intervention (the > strep layer was one that we dealt w/aggression). The base layer of Immusist, > NDF, good minerals, good diet has been the constant for the last > year....this child has come from pretty much non-verbal to very verbal. > If he's showing yeasty symptoms, a good yeast protocol would be important > too....Here's a list for you from our docs Powerpoint...hope it helps: > " Clinical signs of yeast/fungus > • Gas and bloating > • Lower abdomen is resistant to weight loss > • Kids- high pitched squealing, silly , flushed cheeks and stimming > • White coating on the tongue > • Brain fog and fatigue > • Vaginal or anal irritation/itching/redness > • Headaches > • Weakness/ fatigue > • Sugar cravings > • Stinky BM's > • Light sensitivity > • Rashes > • Memory loss or concentration difficulties > • Joint pain and morning stiffness > • Shortness of breath > • Sinus congestion > • Numbness and tingling > • Skin sensitivity > • Muscle aches and pains > > Treating Fungal Issues > • Diflucan (Fluconazole) for 1-3 months continuous (this also > helps to address the Lyme issue)- it is also inexpensive now > • Rizol Gamma- oral, topical or rectal > • Amphotericin B (250mg BID oral dosing for 6 weeks) > • Brainchild Nutritionals yeast rotation > • Probiotics (like Klaire Therbiotic Complete, VSL#3, Custom > Probiotics or BioImmersion Beta Glucan probiotic to stimulate gut immunity) > Treating Fungal Issues > • Saccharomyces (Florastor)- DAN! protocols now say to use > up to 9 daily!!! > • Grapefruit Seed Extract- (hint: it hides best in grapefruit > juice) > • Candicid Forte (herbal blend without garlic) > • Nystatin for 1-3 months or longer (wimpy) > • Ketoconazole or Sporanox in more severe cases > • For external yeast-related irritation, keep area clean and dry, > apply clay-based powder like Magick Baby and clean area > with diluted vinegar wash (www.magickbotanicals.com) " > > > >> >> Hello everyone, >> >> We started using Immusist for my son. Initially it made a HUGE difference >> on digestion and sleep. It made his stools formed. That was really nice. >> However, he is doing bad in terms of behavior. He is more hyper,more >> aggressive, cries to everything and very stimmy. His stools are also not >> as >> good as when we first started Immusist. He is also showing yeasty >> symptoms(probably not related to immusist). We are at 2x2drops for now. >> Does this mean it is time for binders? I give him 2 capsules of charcoal >> once a week but it does not seem to help. Or should I stop using Immusist? >> I am worrying about the redistribution thing. I am open to any suggestions >> on what is going on with my son and how I can help him relax a bit. >> >> And Rita if you read this, how do I use NDF as a binder? If it is Ok to >> use >> NDF as a binder,how do I dose it and when do I give it. I have been using >> NDF as a chelator for years and stopped it after starting immusist. I >> thought both would bee too much on him. >> >> Ayse >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 I I find it hilarious that you call that a "quick" answer. ~ Antiviral Therapy 101~~ Make a biomed book ~~ gryffinstail.wordpress.com ~~ @Gryffins_Tail ~ Asye, I only have a minute, so sorry for the quick answer. SNIP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 rita, what was the additional intervention the parent used in the case of the difficult strep....i think my son is battling this....i got my son on a six week parasite treatment on top of the LDM...using bentonite clay as a binder as well as the immusist i droped down to two drops a day....but my son is still dealing with the rage and aggression... I am goin to try and treat with goldenseal once the LDM runs out but am curious what other parents have used for strep/hard core bacteria issues...besides the Rx which everyone knows I dont do:) channa To: mb12valtrex Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2012 5:56 PMSubject: Re: About IMMUSIST Asye,I only have a minute, so sorry for the quick answer. Since he was doing well before on the NDF, put him back on it. One of the kids in our WA group is doing well on both. I believe you need binder on board since you have reached a behaviour situation. In addition to the Immusist & NDF, the child in our WA group also did much better adding in Alfalfa...she started him on 3 tablets...if I remember correctly it was 2x a day. As the mom ramped up the dose she also ended up adding in some anti-virals (for this child this was Monolaurin) & the child also went through a pretty tough strep layer requiring additional intervention (the strep layer was one that we dealt w/aggression). The base layer of Immusist, NDF, good minerals, good diet has been the constant for the last year....this child has come from pretty much non-verbal to very verbal.If he's showing yeasty symptoms, a good yeast protocol would be important too....Here's a list for you from our docs Powerpoint...hope it helps:"Clinical signs of yeast/fungus• Gas and bloating• Lower abdomen is resistant to weight loss• Kids- high pitched squealing, silly , flushed cheeks and stimming• White coating on the tongue• Brain fog and fatigue• Vaginal or anal irritation/itching/redness• Headaches• Weakness/ fatigue• Sugar cravings• Stinky BM's• Light sensitivity• Rashes• Memory loss or concentration difficulties• Joint pain and morning stiffness• Shortness of breath• Sinus congestion• Numbness and tingling• Skin sensitivity• Muscle aches and painsTreating Fungal Issues• Diflucan (Fluconazole) for 1-3 months continuous (this alsohelps to address the Lyme issue)- it is also inexpensive now• Rizol Gamma- oral, topical or rectal• Amphotericin B (250mg BID oral dosing for 6 weeks)• Brainchild Nutritionals yeast rotation• Probiotics (like Klaire Therbiotic Complete, VSL#3, CustomProbiotics or BioImmersion Beta Glucan probiotic to stimulate gut immunity)Treating Fungal Issues• Saccharomyces (Florastor)- DAN! protocols now say to useup to 9 daily!!!• Grapefruit Seed Extract- (hint: it hides best in grapefruitjuice)• Candicid Forte (herbal blend without garlic)• Nystatin for 1-3 months or longer (wimpy)• Ketoconazole or Sporanox in more severe cases• For external yeast-related irritation, keep area clean and dry,apply clay-based powder like Magick Baby and clean areawith diluted vinegar wash (www.magickbotanicals.com)">> Hello everyone,> > We started using Immusist for my son. Initially it made a HUGE difference> on digestion and sleep. It made his stools formed. That was really nice.> However, he is doing bad in terms of behavior. He is more hyper,more> aggressive, cries to everything and very stimmy. His stools are also not as> good as when we first started Immusist. He is also showing yeasty> symptoms(probably not related to immusist). We are at 2x2drops for now.> Does this mean it is time for binders? I give him 2 capsules of charcoal> once a week but it does not seem to help. Or should I stop using Immusist?> I am worrying about the redistribution thing. I am open to any suggestions> on what is going on with my son and how I can help him relax a bit.> > And Rita if you read this, how do I use NDF as a binder? If it is Ok to use> NDF as a binder,how do I dose it and when do I give it. I have been using> NDF as a chelator for years and stopped it after starting immusist. I> thought both would bee too much on him.> > Ayse> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 what is a strep layer? To: mb12valtrex Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2012 4:56 PM Subject: Re: About IMMUSIST Asye, I only have a minute, so sorry for the quick answer. Since he was doing well before on the NDF, put him back on it. One of the kids in our WA group is doing well on both. I believe you need binder on board since you have reached a behaviour situation. In addition to the Immusist & NDF, the child in our WA group also did much better adding in Alfalfa...she started him on 3 tablets...if I remember correctly it was 2x a day. As the mom ramped up the dose she also ended up adding in some anti-virals (for this child this was Monolaurin) & the child also went through a pretty tough strep layer requiring additional intervention (the strep layer was one that we dealt w/aggression). The base layer of Immusist, NDF, good minerals, good diet has been the constant for the last year....this child has come from pretty much non-verbal to very verbal. If he's showing yeasty symptoms, a good yeast protocol would be important too....Here's a list for you from our docs Powerpoint...hope it helps: "Clinical signs of yeast/fungus • Gas and bloating • Lower abdomen is resistant to weight loss • Kids- high pitched squealing, silly , flushed cheeks and stimming • White coating on the tongue • Brain fog and fatigue • Vaginal or anal irritation/itching/redness • Headaches • Weakness/ fatigue • Sugar cravings • Stinky BM's • Light sensitivity • Rashes • Memory loss or concentration difficulties • Joint pain and morning stiffness • Shortness of breath • Sinus congestion • Numbness and tingling • Skin sensitivity • Muscle aches and pains Treating Fungal Issues • Diflucan (Fluconazole) for 1-3 months continuous (this also helps to address the Lyme issue)- it is also inexpensive now • Rizol Gamma- oral, topical or rectal • Amphotericin B (250mg BID oral dosing for 6 weeks) • Brainchild Nutritionals yeast rotation • Probiotics (like Klaire Therbiotic Complete, VSL#3, Custom Probiotics or BioImmersion Beta Glucan probiotic to stimulate gut immunity) Treating Fungal Issues • Saccharomyces (Florastor)- DAN! protocols now say to use up to 9 daily!!! • Grapefruit Seed Extract- (hint: it hides best in grapefruit juice) • Candicid Forte (herbal blend without garlic) • Nystatin for 1-3 months or longer (wimpy) • Ketoconazole or Sporanox in more severe cases • For external yeast-related irritation, keep area clean and dry, apply clay-based powder like Magick Baby and clean area with diluted vinegar wash (www.magickbotanicals.com)" > > Hello everyone, > > We started using Immusist for my son. Initially it made a HUGE difference > on digestion and sleep. It made his stools formed. That was really nice. > However, he is doing bad in terms of behavior. He is more hyper,more > aggressive, cries to everything and very stimmy. His stools are also not as > good as when we first started Immusist. He is also showing yeasty > symptoms(probably not related to immusist). We are at 2x2drops for now. > Does this mean it is time for binders? I give him 2 capsules of charcoal > once a week but it does not seem to help. Or should I stop using Immusist? > I am worrying about the redistribution thing. I am open to any suggestions > on what is going on with my son and how I can help him relax a bit. > > And Rita if you read this, how do I use NDF as a binder? If it is Ok to use > NDF as a binder,how do I dose it and when do I give it. I have been using > NDF as a chelator for years and stopped it after starting immusist. I > thought both would bee too much on him. > > Ayse > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 You can try a homeopathic remedy "strep faecalis (also called sycoticco)".......I would go with a higher potency as this strep/PANDAS thing is really tough to combat. To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2012 7:12 PM Subject: Re: Re: About IMMUSIST rita, what was the additional intervention the parent used in the case of the difficult strep....i think my son is battling this....i got my son on a six week parasite treatment on top of the LDM...using bentonite clay as a binder as well as the immusist i droped down to two drops a day....but my son is still dealing with the rage and aggression... I am goin to try and treat with goldenseal once the LDM runs out but am curious what other parents have used for strep/hard core bacteria issues...besides the Rx which everyone knows I dont do:) channa To: mb12valtrex Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2012 5:56 PMSubject: Re: About IMMUSIST Asye,I only have a minute, so sorry for the quick answer. Since he was doing well before on the NDF, put him back on it. One of the kids in our WA group is doing well on both. I believe you need binder on board since you have reached a behaviour situation. In addition to the Immusist & NDF, the child in our WA group also did much better adding in Alfalfa...she started him on 3 tablets...if I remember correctly it was 2x a day. As the mom ramped up the dose she also ended up adding in some anti-virals (for this child this was Monolaurin) & the child also went through a pretty tough strep layer requiring additional intervention (the strep layer was one that we dealt w/aggression). The base layer of Immusist, NDF, good minerals, good diet has been the constant for the last year....this child has come from pretty much non-verbal to very verbal.If he's showing yeasty symptoms, a good yeast protocol would be important too....Here's a list for you from our docs Powerpoint...hope it helps:"Clinical signs of yeast/fungus• Gas and bloating• Lower abdomen is resistant to weight loss• Kids- high pitched squealing, silly , flushed cheeks and stimming• White coating on the tongue• Brain fog and fatigue• Vaginal or anal irritation/itching/redness• Headaches• Weakness/ fatigue• Sugar cravings• Stinky BM's• Light sensitivity• Rashes• Memory loss or concentration difficulties• Joint pain and morning stiffness• Shortness of breath• Sinus congestion• Numbness and tingling• Skin sensitivity• Muscle aches and painsTreating Fungal Issues• Diflucan (Fluconazole) for 1-3 months continuous (this alsohelps to address the Lyme issue)- it is also inexpensive now• Rizol Gamma- oral, topical or rectal• Amphotericin B (250mg BID oral dosing for 6 weeks)• Brainchild Nutritionals yeast rotation• Probiotics (like Klaire Therbiotic Complete, VSL#3, CustomProbiotics or BioImmersion Beta Glucan probiotic to stimulate gut immunity)Treating Fungal Issues• Saccharomyces (Florastor)- DAN! protocols now say to useup to 9 daily!!!• Grapefruit Seed Extract- (hint: it hides best in grapefruitjuice)• Candicid Forte (herbal blend without garlic)• Nystatin for 1-3 months or longer (wimpy)• Ketoconazole or Sporanox in more severe cases• For external yeast-related irritation, keep area clean and dry,apply clay-based powder like Magick Baby and clean areawith diluted vinegar wash (www.magickbotanicals.com)">> Hello everyone,> > We started using Immusist for my son. Initially it made a HUGE difference> on digestion and sleep. It made his stools formed. That was really nice.> However, he is doing bad in terms of behavior. He is more hyper,more> aggressive, cries to everything and very stimmy. His stools are also not as> good as when we first started Immusist. He is also showing yeasty> symptoms(probably not related to immusist). We are at 2x2drops for now.> Does this mean it is time for binders? I give him 2 capsules of charcoal> once a week but it does not seem to help. Or should I stop using Immusist?> I am worrying about the redistribution thing. I am open to any suggestions> on what is going on with my son and how I can help him relax a bit.> > And Rita if you read this, how do I use NDF as a binder? If it is Ok to use> NDF as a binder,how do I dose it and when do I give it. I have been using> NDF as a chelator for years and stopped it after starting immusist. I> thought both would bee too much on him.> > Ayse> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 that is a good idea thank you susan....i am hopin to get my son treated by the same homeopath as i used as she seemed to help me with her remedy choice so i will specifically ask her about this strep homeopathic... really sucks this pandas thing....if i had any energy left at the end of the day i would cry myself to sleep. channa To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2012 7:47 PMSubject: Re: Re: About IMMUSIST You can try a homeopathic remedy "strep faecalis (also called sycoticco)".......I would go with a higher potency as this strep/PANDAS thing is really tough to combat. To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2012 7:12 PMSubject: Re: Re: About IMMUSIST rita, what was the additional intervention the parent used in the case of the difficult strep....i think my son is battling this....i got my son on a six week parasite treatment on top of the LDM...using bentonite clay as a binder as well as the immusist i droped down to two drops a day....but my son is still dealing with the rage and aggression... I am goin to try and treat with goldenseal once the LDM runs out but am curious what other parents have used for strep/hard core bacteria issues...besides the Rx which everyone knows I dont do:) channa To: mb12valtrex Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2012 5:56 PMSubject: Re: About IMMUSIST Asye,I only have a minute, so sorry for the quick answer. Since he was doing well before on the NDF, put him back on it. One of the kids in our WA group is doing well on both. I believe you need binder on board since you have reached a behaviour situation. In addition to the Immusist & NDF, the child in our WA group also did much better adding in Alfalfa...she started him on 3 tablets...if I remember correctly it was 2x a day. As the mom ramped up the dose she also ended up adding in some anti-virals (for this child this was Monolaurin) & the child also went through a pretty tough strep layer requiring additional intervention (the strep layer was one that we dealt w/aggression). The base layer of Immusist, NDF, good minerals, good diet has been the constant for the last year....this child has come from pretty much non-verbal to very verbal.If he's showing yeasty symptoms, a good yeast protocol would be important too....Here's a list for you from our docs Powerpoint...hope it helps:"Clinical signs of yeast/fungus• Gas and bloating• Lower abdomen is resistant to weight loss• Kids- high pitched squealing, silly , flushed cheeks and stimming• White coating on the tongue• Brain fog and fatigue• Vaginal or anal irritation/itching/redness• Headaches• Weakness/ fatigue• Sugar cravings• Stinky BM's• Light sensitivity• Rashes• Memory loss or concentration difficulties• Joint pain and morning stiffness• Shortness of breath• Sinus congestion• Numbness and tingling• Skin sensitivity• Muscle aches and painsTreating Fungal Issues• Diflucan (Fluconazole) for 1-3 months continuous (this alsohelps to address the Lyme issue)- it is also inexpensive now• Rizol Gamma- oral, topical or rectal• Amphotericin B (250mg BID oral dosing for 6 weeks)• Brainchild Nutritionals yeast rotation• Probiotics (like Klaire Therbiotic Complete, VSL#3, CustomProbiotics or BioImmersion Beta Glucan probiotic to stimulate gut immunity)Treating Fungal Issues• Saccharomyces (Florastor)- DAN! protocols now say to useup to 9 daily!!!• Grapefruit Seed Extract- (hint: it hides best in grapefruitjuice)• Candicid Forte (herbal blend without garlic)• Nystatin for 1-3 months or longer (wimpy)• Ketoconazole or Sporanox in more severe cases• For external yeast-related irritation, keep area clean and dry,apply clay-based powder like Magick Baby and clean areawith diluted vinegar wash (www.magickbotanicals.com)">> Hello everyone,> > We started using Immusist for my son. Initially it made a HUGE difference> on digestion and sleep. It made his stools formed. That was really nice.> However, he is doing bad in terms of behavior. He is more hyper,more> aggressive, cries to everything and very stimmy. His stools are also not as> good as when we first started Immusist. He is also showing yeasty> symptoms(probably not related to immusist). We are at 2x2drops for now.> Does this mean it is time for binders? I give him 2 capsules of charcoal> once a week but it does not seem to help. Or should I stop using Immusist?> I am worrying about the redistribution thing. I am open to any suggestions> on what is going on with my son and how I can help him relax a bit.> > And Rita if you read this, how do I use NDF as a binder? If it is Ok to use> NDF as a binder,how do I dose it and when do I give it. I have been using> NDF as a chelator for years and stopped it after starting immusist. I> thought both would bee too much on him.> > Ayse> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 i think others can explain better..but my son had a poop test done a couple years ago he was high in strep bacteria amoung other nasty bacteria....and when the strep bacteria gets to the brain you become the meanest son of a bitch agression and rage all the time...of course I ruled out other stuff...food/supp reactions....metals he had been treated for metals for the better part of a year... parasites im treating.....so im left with bacteria as the main possible cause for uncontrollable rage.. To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2012 7:44 PMSubject: Re: Re: About IMMUSIST what is a strep layer? To: mb12valtrex Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2012 4:56 PMSubject: Re: About IMMUSIST Asye,I only have a minute, so sorry for the quick answer. Since he was doing well before on the NDF, put him back on it. One of the kids in our WA group is doing well on both. I believe you need binder on board since you have reached a behaviour situation. In addition to the Immusist & NDF, the child in our WA group also did much better adding in Alfalfa...she started him on 3 tablets...if I remember correctly it was 2x a day. As the mom ramped up the dose she also ended up adding in some anti-virals (for this child this was Monolaurin) & the child also went through a pretty tough strep layer requiring additional intervention (the strep layer was one that we dealt w/aggression). The base layer of Immusist, NDF, good minerals, good diet has been the constant for the last year....this child has come from pretty much non-verbal to very verbal.If he's showing yeasty symptoms, a good yeast protocol would be important too....Here's a list for you from our docs Powerpoint...hope it helps:"Clinical signs of yeast/fungus• Gas and bloating• Lower abdomen is resistant to weight loss• Kids- high pitched squealing, silly , flushed cheeks and stimming• White coating on the tongue• Brain fog and fatigue• Vaginal or anal irritation/itching/redness• Headaches• Weakness/ fatigue• Sugar cravings• Stinky BM's• Light sensitivity• Rashes• Memory loss or concentration difficulties• Joint pain and morning stiffness• Shortness of breath• Sinus congestion• Numbness and tingling• Skin sensitivity• Muscle aches and painsTreating Fungal Issues• Diflucan (Fluconazole) for 1-3 months continuous (this alsohelps to address the Lyme issue)- it is also inexpensive now• Rizol Gamma- oral, topical or rectal• Amphotericin B (250mg BID oral dosing for 6 weeks)• Brainchild Nutritionals yeast rotation• Probiotics (like Klaire Therbiotic Complete, VSL#3, CustomProbiotics or BioImmersion Beta Glucan probiotic to stimulate gut immunity)Treating Fungal Issues• Saccharomyces (Florastor)- DAN! protocols now say to useup to 9 daily!!!• Grapefruit Seed Extract- (hint: it hides best in grapefruitjuice)• Candicid Forte (herbal blend without garlic)• Nystatin for 1-3 months or longer (wimpy)• Ketoconazole or Sporanox in more severe cases• For external yeast-related irritation, keep area clean and dry,apply clay-based powder like Magick Baby and clean areawith diluted vinegar wash (www.magickbotanicals.com)">> Hello everyone,> > We started using Immusist for my son. Initially it made a HUGE difference> on digestion and sleep. It made his stools formed. That was really nice.> However, he is doing bad in terms of behavior. He is more hyper,more> aggressive, cries to everything and very stimmy. His stools are also not as> good as when we first started Immusist. He is also showing yeasty> symptoms(probably not related to immusist). We are at 2x2drops for now.> Does this mean it is time for binders? I give him 2 capsules of charcoal> once a week but it does not seem to help. Or should I stop using Immusist?> I am worrying about the redistribution thing. I am open to any suggestions> on what is going on with my son and how I can help him relax a bit.> > And Rita if you read this, how do I use NDF as a binder? If it is Ok to use> NDF as a binder,how do I dose it and when do I give it. I have been using> NDF as a chelator for years and stopped it after starting immusist. I> thought both would bee too much on him.> > Ayse> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 who were you directing question at tammy? i may try mms again but for my son in particular,i stopped because i felt it to much oxidative for him..that doesnt mean I wouldnt try it again thou. To: mb12valtrex Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2012 7:40 PMSubject: Re: Re: About IMMUSIST How about the MMS? TammySent from my Kindle Fire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 Yea, I meant for him..... Tammy Sent from my Kindle Fire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 Feel the same Channa too tired to cry but keep going we will get there some daySent from my iPod that is a good idea thank you susan....i am hopin to get my son treated by the same homeopath as i used as she seemed to help me with her remedy choice so i will specifically ask her about this strep homeopathic... really sucks this pandas thing....if i had any energy left at the end of the day i would cry myself to sleep. channa To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2012 7:47 PMSubject: Re: Re: About IMMUSIST You can try a homeopathic remedy "strep faecalis (also called sycoticco)".......I would go with a higher potency as this strep/PANDAS thing is really tough to combat. To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2012 7:12 PMSubject: Re: Re: About IMMUSIST rita, what was the additional intervention the parent used in the case of the difficult strep....i think my son is battling this....i got my son on a six week parasite treatment on top of the LDM...using bentonite clay as a binder as well as the immusist i droped down to two drops a day....but my son is still dealing with the rage and aggression... I am goin to try and treat with goldenseal once the LDM runs out but am curious what other parents have used for strep/hard core bacteria issues...besides the Rx which everyone knows I dont do:) channa To: mb12valtrex Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2012 5:56 PMSubject: Re: About IMMUSIST Asye,I only have a minute, so sorry for the quick answer. Since he was doing well before on the NDF, put him back on it. One of the kids in our WA group is doing well on both. I believe you need binder on board since you have reached a behaviour situation. In addition to the Immusist & NDF, the child in our WA group also did much better adding in Alfalfa...she started him on 3 tablets...if I remember correctly it was 2x a day. As the mom ramped up the dose she also ended up adding in some anti-virals (for this child this was Monolaurin) & the child also went through a pretty tough strep layer requiring additional intervention (the strep layer was one that we dealt w/aggression). The base layer of Immusist, NDF, good minerals, good diet has been the constant for the last year....this child has come from pretty much non-verbal to very verbal.If he's showing yeasty symptoms, a good yeast protocol would be important too....Here's a list for you from our docs Powerpoint...hope it helps:"Clinical signs of yeast/fungus• Gas and bloating• Lower abdomen is resistant to weight loss• Kids- high pitched squealing, silly , flushed cheeks and stimming• White coating on the tongue• Brain fog and fatigue• Vaginal or anal irritation/itching/redness• Headaches• Weakness/ fatigue• Sugar cravings• Stinky BM's• Light sensitivity• Rashes• Memory loss or concentration difficulties• Joint pain and morning stiffness• Shortness of breath• Sinus congestion• Numbness and tingling• Skin sensitivity• Muscle aches and painsTreating Fungal Issues• Diflucan (Fluconazole) for 1-3 months continuous (this alsohelps to address the Lyme issue)- it is also inexpensive now• Rizol Gamma- oral, topical or rectal• Amphotericin B (250mg BID oral dosing for 6 weeks)• Brainchild Nutritionals yeast rotation• Probiotics (like Klaire Therbiotic Complete, VSL#3, CustomProbiotics or BioImmersion Beta Glucan probiotic to stimulate gut immunity)Treating Fungal Issues• Saccharomyces (Florastor)- DAN! protocols now say to useup to 9 daily!!!• Grapefruit Seed Extract- (hint: it hides best in grapefruitjuice)• Candicid Forte (herbal blend without garlic)• Nystatin for 1-3 months or longer (wimpy)• Ketoconazole or Sporanox in more severe cases• For external yeast-related irritation, keep area clean and dry,apply clay-based powder like Magick Baby and clean areawith diluted vinegar wash (www.magickbotanicals.com)">> Hello everyone,> > We started using Immusist for my son. Initially it made a HUGE difference> on digestion and sleep. It made his stools formed. That was really nice.> However, he is doing bad in terms of behavior. He is more hyper,more> aggressive, cries to everything and very stimmy. His stools are also not as> good as when we first started Immusist. He is also showing yeasty> symptoms(probably not related to immusist). We are at 2x2drops for now.> Does this mean it is time for binders? I give him 2 capsules of charcoal> once a week but it does not seem to help. Or should I stop using Immusist?> I am worrying about the redistribution thing. I am open to any suggestions> on what is going on with my son and how I can help him relax a bit.> > And Rita if you read this, how do I use NDF as a binder? If it is Ok to use> NDF as a binder,how do I dose it and when do I give it. I have been using> NDF as a chelator for years and stopped it after starting immusist. I> thought both would bee too much on him.> > Ayse> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 I love you lady....let me know when you want my angry eyes again or my sad eyes lol...I know God is carrying you too...we just must be brave and have faith .. channa To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Friday, March 9, 2012 9:37 AMSubject: Re: Re: About IMMUSIST Feel the same Channa too tired to cry but keep going we will get there some daySent from my iPod (13) Recent Activity: New Members 9 Visit Your Group Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 Love you Cheryl )!!!...I know, I was late to get my son w/that quick answer.... I just can't help it...I know I'm in a time crunch but the detective in my brain screams...there is no quick answer to stimming....yeast, strep, metals..all tough stuff!! to slightly redeam...no time to spellcheck & 1/2 the message was a cut & paste...and at least my son forgives well when I'm late..... Hugs! Rita > > > Asye, > > I only have a minute, so sorry for the quick answer. > > > > SNIP > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 We've had a 27 year old...she's far from recovered...but has come a LONG way in the year on it (full adult dose). 1 year ago she needed full time 24 hour a day care....no big wows just slow steady progress. At around 8 months she went to the mall by herself for the 1st time ever. At just over a year she moved into an appt by herself w/just someone checking in on her a couple of times a day to make sure she's doing ok....huge for this family though. Sleep is good...it helps everyone in the family heal...What dose are you on now? Blessings! Rita > >> > >> Hello everyone, > >> > >> We started using Immusist for my son. Initially it made a HUGE difference > >> on digestion and sleep. It made his stools formed. That was really nice. > >> However, he is doing bad in terms of behavior. He is more hyper,more > >> aggressive, cries to everything and very stimmy. His stools are also not > >> as > >> good as when we first started Immusist. He is also showing yeasty > >> symptoms(probably not related to immusist). We are at 2x2drops for now. > >> Does this mean it is time for binders? I give him 2 capsules of charcoal > >> once a week but it does not seem to help. Or should I stop using Immusist? > >> I am worrying about the redistribution thing. I am open to any suggestions > >> on what is going on with my son and how I can help him relax a bit. > >> > >> And Rita if you read this, how do I use NDF as a binder? If it is Ok to > >> use > >> NDF as a binder,how do I dose it and when do I give it. I have been using > >> NDF as a chelator for years and stopped it after starting immusist. I > >> thought both would bee too much on him. > >> > >> Ayse > >> > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 Bless You ...you're Great!!! Channa as you know I almost always go to the natural. With our docs help I've almost always been able to go natural for my son...it just works best for us. To answer your ? about this particular child, his tonsils were taking up 1/2 his throat...it was just to much for his detox to handle. For him it was months of antibiotics both before & after the T & A surgury + Immusist. Before the surgury he went very verbal on the Immusist + good diet + good fats (CLO), + good minerals + Alfalfa + NDF+. Immediately after the surgury it was gargle/swishing w/Immusist then spit out the bacteria helping coat the area w/Immusist to promote healing. Before the surgury this child could only do 3 drops 2x day...after surgury recovery (about 6 weeks of anti-biotics) this 4 year old has been successfully ramping up to 8 drops 2x day. I wish this was an easy one....PANDA's is a tough one!! Unfortunately all these kids are different....when you get a kid w/ 1/2 his air passage blocked by the crap things sometimes have to get radical. I'm really glad w/have great docs!!!! The recent full moon doesn't help either..... Blessings, Rita > > that is a good idea thank you susan....i am hopin to get my son treated by the same homeopath as i used as she seemed to help me with her remedy choice so i will specifically ask her about this strep homeopathic... > Â really sucks this pandas thing....if i had any energy left at the end of the day i would cry myself to sleep. > channa > Â > > > ________________________________ > > To: " mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > > Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2012 7:47 PM > Subject: Re: Re: About IMMUSIST > > > Â > You can try a homeopathic remedy " strep faecalis (also called sycoticco) " .......I would go with a higher potency as this strep/PANDAS thing is really tough to combat. > > > > ________________________________ > > To: " mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > > Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2012 7:12 PM > Subject: Re: Re: About IMMUSIST > > > Â > rita, > what was the additional intervention the parent used in the case of the difficult strep....i think my son is battling this....i got my son on a six week parasite treatment on top of the LDM...using bentonite clay as a binder as well as the immusist i droped down to two drops a day....but my son is still dealing with the rage and aggression... > I am goin to try and treat with goldenseal once the LDM runs out but am curious what other parents have used for strep/hard core bacteria issues...besides the Rx which everyone knows I dont do:) > channa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 Rita,Right now ny (16) is taking 5 drops 2x a day. Bless You ...you're Great!!! Channa as you know I almost always go to the natural. With our docs help I've almost always been able to go natural for my son...it just works best for us. To answer your ? about this particular child, his tonsils were taking up 1/2 his throat...it was just to much for his detox to handle. For him it was months of antibiotics both before & after the T & A surgury + Immusist. Before the surgury he went very verbal on the Immusist + good diet + good fats (CLO), + good minerals + Alfalfa + NDF+. Immediately after the surgury it was gargle/swishing w/Immusist then spit out the bacteria helping coat the area w/Immusist to promote healing. Before the surgury this child could only do 3 drops 2x day...after surgury recovery (about 6 weeks of anti-biotics) this 4 year old has been successfully ramping up to 8 drops 2x day. I wish this was an easy one....PANDA's is a tough one!! Unfortunately all these kids are different....when you get a kid w/ 1/2 his air passage blocked by the crap things sometimes have to get radical. I'm really glad w/have great docs!!!! The recent full moon doesn't help either..... Blessings, Rita > > that is a good idea thank you susan....i am hopin to get my son treated by the same homeopath as i used as she seemed to help me with her remedy choice so i will specifically ask her about this strep homeopathic... > Â really sucks this pandas thing....if i had any energy left at the end of the day i would cry myself to sleep. > channa > Â > > > ________________________________ > > To: " mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > > Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2012 7:47 PM > Subject: Re: Re: About IMMUSIST > > > Â > You can try a homeopathic remedy " strep faecalis (also called sycoticco) " .......I would go with a higher potency as this strep/PANDAS thing is really tough to combat. > > > > ________________________________ > > To: " mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > > Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2012 7:12 PM > Subject: Re: Re: About IMMUSIST > > > Â > rita, > what was the additional intervention the parent used in the case of the difficult strep....i think my son is battling this....i got my son on a six week parasite treatment on top of the LDM...using bentonite clay as a binder as well as the immusist i droped down to two drops a day....but my son is still dealing with the rage and aggression... > I am goin to try and treat with goldenseal once the LDM runs out but am curious what other parents have used for strep/hard core bacteria issues...besides the Rx which everyone knows I dont do:) > channa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 Cheryl....I'm sorry, I forgot to trim the last posts....I'm working toward being better...your training a old dog here, but I remembered this one ).... hummm...I'm trying to remember, you said you've been on for 2 months & I'm thinking you've built up to this dose during those 2 months. 5 drops 2x a day...that's a good dose for ramping up in 2 months..I'm happy he's been able to get up to a nice dose like this. It's still not even a full childs dose so it's going to take longer on 1/2 daily doses. My son is 13 and ART tests at 10 drops 2x daily (10am+10pm).... & has been on it 1 year now (he started @ 5 drops 1x day & built from there....he has a dr appt on Mon so we'll see if he can bump up further from there as I'm hoping at his current growth spurt to increase his dose further, he grew 4 " last year & needs all the help his body can get to help him grow properly through these puburty years). We've found language is one of the last things to come, especially when the body is fighting a lot of pathogens...it's energy goes to the fight instead of to the harder neurological stuff like language. Language took 9 months for the 4yo @ 3-5 drops 2x a day. It's taken 5 months for the 5yo that's on 5 drops a day....he's verbal w/a few words though softly w/mainly his mom. For him, his interacting is what's increased the most. A week ago I went to the Children's Museaum with a group & was so pleased to see the way he was interacting though trying to engage at times, he was still softly spoken needing to build confidence. His mom was so happy as he was just having a good time & really working at learning. I'm sorry for the books & reflections here...there's a lot going on in my WA group right now & we working on praising the little things many people don't notice...but we as moms are trying to capture. At the same time there are several troubled marraiges & stresses of special needs parenting that are just like weights. It's a tough one emotionally right now....I know it's a full moon & all...but I need some break throughs too right now....I'm down & stressed too... Rita > > Rita, > Right now ny (16) is taking 5 drops 2x a day. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 Hi Ms. Rita, We are in 6 drops 2x a day for only 1 month ( I started 3 drops a day and build from there). I'm seeing slow and steady progress. I only wonder why you stay on being 2x a day while the adult is 16 drops 3x a day. Can I continue to try up to 3x a day or this will be too much. I only add alfalfa 2 days ago. I used Vibrant Health Green Vibrance, 1 tsp with water a day as a binder. It's a combination of almost all greens including alfalfa, barley grass, chlorella, brocolli, spirulina and many more). I'm seeing good result but not really a WOW but as you said slow and steady progress everyday. I usually place the drops on Emergen-C juice at 6-8 ounces. Can I continue to increase the dose until 8 drops 3x a day or only 2x a day like you. Did you try 3x a day before and felt too much that's why you ended up only 2x a day. I'm also planning to do IV chelation in the near future. What do you think of this? Since i'm planing IV, do you think Immusist will also help in delivering this well to her body. What's your thought about this? My child still stims a lot, like spinning of things, like puzzle piece and small card, anything she will spin but there is a small improvement in talking..just a little but atleast she is improving everyday. She is also able to say triangle really clear but cannot say it before. Do you do special diet....before I'm doing GFCF but not now (when I start Immusist, I wasn't able to do it for 1 month) because of major things that happened tp our family and my children needed to stay in my brother's house. Did you see GFCF as big factor in your child? I'm seeing slow and steady improvement without the GFCFSoy free diet). I don't know if I will go back to GFCF diet. God bless you and your family. I'm happy I tried Immusist. I hope this improvement will go on and on. Thank you for helping us. Thank you in advance, Mhel To: mb12valtrex From: rchildbalance@...Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 16:41:10 +0000Subject: Re: About IMMUSIST Cheryl....I'm sorry, I forgot to trim the last posts....I'm working toward being better...your training a old dog here, but I remembered this one )....hummm...I'm trying to remember, you said you've been on for 2 months & I'm thinking you've built up to this dose during those 2 months. 5 drops 2x a day...that's a good dose for ramping up in 2 months..I'm happy he's been able to get up to a nice dose like this. It's still not even a full childs dose so it's going to take longer on 1/2 daily doses.My son is 13 and ART tests at 10 drops 2x daily (10am+10pm).... & has been on it 1 year now (he started @ 5 drops 1x day & built from there....he has a dr appt on Mon so we'll see if he can bump up further from there as I'm hoping at his current growth spurt to increase his dose further, he grew 4" last year & needs all the help his body can get to help him grow properly through these puburty years). We've found language is one of the last things to come, especially when the body is fighting a lot of pathogens...it's energy goes to the fight instead of to the harder neurological stuff like language.Language took 9 months for the 4yo @ 3-5 drops 2x a day. It's taken 5 months for the 5yo that's on 5 drops a day....he's verbal w/a few words though softly w/mainly his mom. For him, his interacting is what's increased the most. A week ago I went to the Children's Museaum with a group & was so pleased to see the way he was interacting though trying to engage at times, he was still softly spoken needing to build confidence. His mom was so happy as he was just having a good time & really working at learning.I'm sorry for the books & reflections here...there's a lot going on in my WA group right now & we working on praising the little things many people don't notice...but we as moms are trying to capture. At the same time there are several troubled marraiges & stresses of special needs parenting that are just like weights. It's a tough one emotionally right now....I know it's a full moon & all...but I need some break throughs too right now....I'm down & stressed too...Rita >> Rita,> Right now ny (16) is taking 5 drops 2x a day.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 What r good minerals? What is NDF? > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > We started using Immusist for my son. Initially it made a HUGE difference > > on digestion and sleep. It made his stools formed. That was really nice. > > However, he is doing bad in terms of behavior. He is more hyper,more > > aggressive, cries to everything and very stimmy. His stools are also not as > > good as when we first started Immusist. He is also showing yeasty > > symptoms(probably not related to immusist). We are at 2x2drops for now. > > Does this mean it is time for binders? I give him 2 capsules of charcoal > > once a week but it does not seem to help. Or should I stop using Immusist? > > I am worrying about the redistribution thing. I am open to any suggestions > > on what is going on with my son and how I can help him relax a bit. > > > > And Rita if you read this, how do I use NDF as a binder? If it is Ok to use > > NDF as a binder,how do I dose it and when do I give it. I have been using > > NDF as a chelator for years and stopped it after starting immusist. I > > thought both would bee too much on him. > > > > Ayse > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 NDF is a chelator made with chlorella and cilantro i believe....minerals that I believe rita calls good are the main ones like magnesium zinc selenim ...i use aidon multi minerals and i like them so far...also i use water oz for zinc since i use a lot of zinc for my son....lots kids with immune disorders and metal toxicity are low in zinc magnesium and selenium....anyone correct me if i miss something out. channa To: mb12valtrex Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 5:59 PMSubject: Re: About IMMUSIST What r good minerals?What is NDF?> >> > Hello everyone,> > > > We started using Immusist for my son. Initially it made a HUGE difference> > on digestion and sleep. It made his stools formed. That was really nice.> > However, he is doing bad in terms of behavior. He is more hyper,more> > aggressive, cries to everything and very stimmy. His stools are also not as> > good as when we first started Immusist. He is also showing yeasty> > symptoms(probably not related to immusist). We are at 2x2drops for now.> > Does this mean it is time for binders? I give him 2 capsules of charcoal> > once a week but it does not seem to help. Or should I stop using Immusist?> > I am worrying about the redistribution thing. I am open to any suggestions> > on what is going on with my son and how I can help him relax a bit.> > > > And Rita if you read this, how do I use NDF as a binder? If it is Ok to use> > NDF as a binder,how do I dose it and when do I give it. I have been using> > NDF as a chelator for years and stopped it after starting immusist. I> > thought both would bee too much on him.> > > > Ayse> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 Is this the IMMUSIST that you are all referring to? http://www.immusist.com/testimonials.html Re: About IMMUSIST Asye,I only have a minute, so sorry for the quick answer. Since he was doing well before on the NDF, put him back on it. One of the kids in our WA group is doing well on both. I believe you need binder on board since you have reached a behaviour situation. In addition to the Immusist & NDF, the child in our WA group also did much better adding in Alfalfa...she started him on 3 tablets...if I remember correctly it was 2x a day. As the mom ramped up the dose she also ended up adding in some anti-virals (for this child this was Monolaurin) & the child also went through a pretty tough strep layer requiring additional intervention (the strep layer was one that we dealt w/aggression). The base layer of Immusist, NDF, good minerals, good diet has been the constant for the last year....this child has come from pretty much non-verbal to very verbal.If he's showing yeasty symptoms, a good yeast protocol would be important too....Here's a list for you from our docs Powerpoint...hope it helps:"Clinical signs of yeast/fungus• Gas and bloating• Lower abdomen is resistant to weight loss• Kids- high pitched squealing, silly , flushed cheeks and stimming• White coating on the tongue• Brain fog and fatigue• Vaginal or anal irritation/itching/redness• Headaches• Weakness/ fatigue• Sugar cravings• Stinky BM's• Light sensitivity• Rashes• Memory loss or concentration difficulties• Joint pain and morning stiffness• Shortness of breath• Sinus congestion• Numbness and tingling• Skin sensitivity• Muscle aches and painsTreating Fungal Issues• Diflucan (Fluconazole) for 1-3 months continuous (this alsohelps to address the Lyme issue)- it is also inexpensive now• Rizol Gamma- oral, topical or rectal• Amphotericin B (250mg BID oral dosing for 6 weeks)• Brainchild Nutritionals yeast rotation• Probiotics (like Klaire Therbiotic Complete, VSL#3, CustomProbiotics or BioImmersion Beta Glucan probiotic to stimulate gut immunity)Treating Fungal Issues• Saccharomyces (Florastor)- DAN! protocols now say to useup to 9 daily!!!• Grapefruit Seed Extract- (hint: it hides best in grapefruitjuice)• Candicid Forte (herbal blend without garlic)• Nystatin for 1-3 months or longer (wimpy)• Ketoconazole or Sporanox in more severe cases• For external yeast-related irritation, keep area clean and dry,apply clay-based powder like Magick Baby and clean areawith diluted vinegar wash (www.magickbotanicals.com)">> Hello everyone,> > We started using Immusist for my son. Initially it made a HUGE difference> on digestion and sleep. It made his stools formed. That was really nice.> However, he is doing bad in terms of behavior. He is more hyper,more> aggressive, cries to everything and very stimmy. His stools are also not as> good as when we first started Immusist. He is also showing yeasty> symptoms(probably not related to immusist). We are at 2x2drops for now.> Does this mean it is time for binders? I give him 2 capsules of charcoal> once a week but it does not seem to help. Or should I stop using Immusist?> I am worrying about the redistribution thing. I am open to any suggestions> on what is going on with my son and how I can help him relax a bit.> > And Rita if you read this, how do I use NDF as a binder? If it is Ok to use> NDF as a binder,how do I dose it and when do I give it. I have been using> NDF as a chelator for years and stopped it after starting immusist. I> thought both would bee too much on him.> > Ayse> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 Yes, that's it. Natural surfactants, they hydrate, oxygentate & reduce the surfact tension of the cells. If you do decide to order, please put something like yahoo groups, asd...It's helping me as I encourage things to help our kids....they are listening & have just come up with a smaller bottle (available this week on their web site)....these are things I'm trying to work towards ( & they're listening) to help our kids further. Blessings, Rita > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > We started using Immusist for my son. Initially it made a HUGE difference > > on digestion and sleep. It made his stools formed. That was really nice. > > However, he is doing bad in terms of behavior. He is more hyper,more > > aggressive, cries to everything and very stimmy. His stools are also not as > > good as when we first started Immusist. He is also showing yeasty > > symptoms(probably not related to immusist). We are at 2x2drops for now. > > Does this mean it is time for binders? I give him 2 capsules of charcoal > > once a week but it does not seem to help. Or should I stop using Immusist? > > I am worrying about the redistribution thing. I am open to any suggestions > > on what is going on with my son and how I can help him relax a bit. > > > > And Rita if you read this, how do I use NDF as a binder? If it is Ok to use > > NDF as a binder,how do I dose it and when do I give it. I have been using > > NDF as a chelator for years and stopped it after starting immusist. I > > thought both would bee too much on him. > > > > Ayse > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 Sema, there is the link from previous email by RitaSent from my iPodBegin forwarded message:Date: 22 March 2012 04:57:28 GMTTo: mb12valtrex Subject: Re: About IMMUSISTReply-To: mb12valtrex Yes, that's it. Natural surfactants, they hydrate, oxygentate & reduce the surfact tension of the cells. If you do decide to order, please put something like yahoo groups, asd...It's helping me as I encourage things to help our kids....they are listening & have just come up with a smaller bottle (available this week on their web site)....these are things I'm trying to work towards ( & they're listening) to help our kids further. Blessings, Rita > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > We started using Immusist for my son. Initially it made a HUGE difference > > on digestion and sleep. It made his stools formed. That was really nice. > > However, he is doing bad in terms of behavior. He is more hyper,more > > aggressive, cries to everything and very stimmy. His stools are also not as > > good as when we first started Immusist. He is also showing yeasty > > symptoms(probably not related to immusist). We are at 2x2drops for now. > > Does this mean it is time for binders? I give him 2 capsules of charcoal > > once a week but it does not seem to help. Or should I stop using Immusist? > > I am worrying about the redistribution thing. I am open to any suggestions > > on what is going on with my son and how I can help him relax a bit. > > > > And Rita if you read this, how do I use NDF as a binder? If it is Ok to use > > NDF as a binder,how do I dose it and when do I give it. I have been using > > NDF as a chelator for years and stopped it after starting immusist. I > > thought both would bee too much on him. > > > > Ayse > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 Tendai, Thanky you very much. sema To: mb12valtrex From: tendaimatambanadzo@...Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 13:43:21 +0100Subject: Fwd: Re: About IMMUSIST Sema, there is the link from previous email by RitaSent from my iPod Begin forwarded message: Date: 22 March 2012 04:57:28 GMTTo: mb12valtrex Subject: Re: About IMMUSISTReply-To: mb12valtrex Yes, that's it. Natural surfactants, they hydrate, oxygentate & reduce the surfact tension of the cells.If you do decide to order, please put something like yahoo groups, asd...It's helping me as I encourage things to help our kids....they are listening & have just come up with a smaller bottle (available this week on their web site)....these are things I'm trying to work towards ( & they're listening) to help our kids further.Blessings,Rita> >> > Hello everyone,> > > > We started using Immusist for my son. Initially it made a HUGE difference> > on digestion and sleep. It made his stools formed. That was really nice.> > However, he is doing bad in terms of behavior. He is more hyper,more> > aggressive, cries to everything and very stimmy. His stools are also not as> > good as when we first started Immusist. He is also showing yeasty> > symptoms(probably not related to immusist). We are at 2x2drops for now.> > Does this mean it is time for binders? I give him 2 capsules of charcoal> > once a week but it does not seem to help. Or should I stop using Immusist?> > I am worrying about the redistribution thing. I am open to any suggestions> > on what is going on with my son and how I can help him relax a bit.> > > > And Rita if you read this, how do I use NDF as a binder? If it is Ok to use> > NDF as a binder,how do I dose it and when do I give it. I have been using> > NDF as a chelator for years and stopped it after starting immusist. I> > thought both would bee too much on him.> > > > Ayse> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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