Re: Re: Speaking of B Vitamins - - help with chelating???

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well melissa, i will tell you my experience...I have heard from countless parents on the recoveryfromautism group report so many gains when starting AC chelation...I had taken a month off with my son as i got involved in MMS and other things with his gut. and when i came back this weekend for a round I was like damn I forgot how neurotypical he gets on rounds.

now there are varied results for all kids but as a whole kids seem to get a lot better on this protocol...I have also used chlorella with my son which i like...I give a hanful of the stuff as it seems if you give to little the chloreela doesnt have enuff to bind the metals with.

but nothing like when i do a round of chelation low/frequent dose.

you just start with low dose and if you are not comfortable you stop. I have heard of VERY few cases where the kids body was not able to tolerate the chelation...for those kids I would tell them ( if they asked my opinion) to try the chlorella and high vitamins/minerals/amino acids as those things also help the body to be more able to detox metals and crap. and again some kids cant handle any supps so i would start withfinding the most healing diet and biuld from there.

channa

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 12:33 PMSubject: Re: Speaking of B Vitamins - - help with chelating???

So I recently got my daughter's complete medical record in hand after years of trying (long distance, we have moved a lot), and sure enough, an early lead test she had at 6 months showed a lead level of 3. I cried and cried. The doctor we were seeing at the time told me the test came back with 'no lead'. I am guessing they meant no lead poisoning, which would be a level of 10. I tell you, the one thing that terrifies me is chelating. Mia always reacts negatively to naturally chelating foods. When she is on aciclovir she chelates naturally as well, and what looks like metals show up in her poop. Can anyone help to hold my hand through an explanation of using supplements to chelate?MANY THANKS, > > > >> > >>well you need proper good bacteria in gut to digest the b vitamins from food..but you are doing the kefir right? so I dont know..malabsorbtion ,will prevent us from getting nutrients from food. that my guess of top head. > >> > >>> >>To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex >> >>Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 11:14 AM> >>Subject: Speaking of B Vitamins> >> > >> > >> > >>> >>> >>> >>I've noticed Tom can go about 3 days or so without supplementing B's (B complex + B12, B6, and 5mthf) before we notice a difference. > >>Because of his food choices, logically, he should be getting plenty of B's. I wonder if there's something viral or perhaps metals that suck the B's out of a person much the same way the Measles suck Vitamin A out. > >>> >> Anyone have any interesting articles/links addressing

this? > >>> >>Maybe our dietary changes just need more time.... (??????) I've tried a couple times to see if he can sustain on his own, but we're not quite there. sooooo frustrating. I might try one more time in a week or two because he does have the sniffles right now (hooray for sniffles!) so he might just be feeling a little under the weather. But little dude is out in left field somewhere (not that I have much room to talk). > >>> >>-Tammy -- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.>

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Hi, when you say AC chelation, do you mean thru IV? Because I read in onepost, they did oral AC chelation? All the while I thought when someonesay AC chelation, it means thru IV. Thank you, Mhel To: mb12valtrex From: channabrennon@...Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 09:53:16 -0700Subject: Re: Re: Speaking of B Vitamins - - help with chelating???

well melissa, i will tell you my experience...I have heard from countless parents on the recoveryfromautism group report so many gains when starting AC chelation...I had taken a month off with my son as i got involved in MMS and other things with his gut. and when i came back this weekend for a round I was like damn I forgot how neurotypical he gets on rounds.

now there are varied results for all kids but as a whole kids seem to get a lot better on this protocol...I have also used chlorella with my son which i like...I give a hanful of the stuff as it seems if you give to little the chloreela doesnt have enuff to bind the metals with.

but nothing like when i do a round of chelation low/frequent dose.

you just start with low dose and if you are not comfortable you stop. I have heard of VERY few cases where the kids body was not able to tolerate the chelation...for those kids I would tell them ( if they asked my opinion) to try the chlorella and high vitamins/minerals/amino acids as those things also help the body to be more able to detox metals and crap. and again some kids cant handle any supps so i would start withfinding the most healing diet and biuld from there.

channa

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 12:33 PMSubject: Re: Speaking of B Vitamins - - help with chelating???

So I recently got my daughter's complete medical record in hand after years of trying (long distance, we have moved a lot), and sure enough, an early lead test she had at 6 months showed a lead level of 3. I cried and cried. The doctor we were seeing at the time told me the test came back with 'no lead'. I am guessing they meant no lead poisoning, which would be a level of 10. I tell you, the one thing that terrifies me is chelating. Mia always reacts negatively to naturally chelating foods. When she is on aciclovir she chelates naturally as well, and what looks like metals show up in her poop. Can anyone help to hold my hand through an explanation of using supplements to chelate?MANY THANKS, > > > >> > >>well you need proper good bacteria in gut to digest the b vitamins from food..but you are doing the kefir right? so I dont know..malabsorbtion ,will prevent us from getting nutrients from food. that my guess of top head. > >> > >>> >>To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex >> >>Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 11:14 AM> >>Subject: Speaking of B Vitamins> >> > >> > >> > >>> >>> >>> >>I've noticed Tom can go about 3 days or so without supplementing B's (B complex + B12, B6, and 5mthf) before we notice a difference. > >>Because of his food choices, logically, he should be getting plenty of B's. I wonder if there's something viral or perhaps metals that suck the B's out of a person much the same way the Measles suck Vitamin A out. > >>> >> Anyone have any interesting articles/links addressing

this? > >>> >>Maybe our dietary changes just need more time.... (??????) I've tried a couple times to see if he can sustain on his own, but we're not quite there. sooooo frustrating. I might try one more time in a week or two because he does have the sniffles right now (hooray for sniffles!) so he might just be feeling a little under the weather. But little dude is out in left field somewhere (not that I have much room to talk). > >>> >>-Tammy -- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.>

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oh goodness no..it is oral you just get a bottle of dmsa and ala and measure out the doses yourself and away you go...mind you the getting up every three four hours at night gets real tiring after a while..but what wouldnt you do for your kid:) it is only three nights out of the week

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 1:22 PMSubject: RE: Re: Speaking of B Vitamins - - help with chelating???

Hi, when you say AC chelation, do you mean thru IV? Because I read in onepost, they did oral AC chelation? All the while I thought when someonesay AC chelation, it means thru IV. Thank you,

Mhel

To: mb12valtrex From: channabrennon@...Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 09:53:16 -0700Subject: Re: Re: Speaking of B Vitamins - - help with chelating???

well melissa, i will tell you my experience...I have heard from countless parents on the recoveryfromautism group report so many gains when starting AC chelation...I had taken a month off with my son as i got involved in MMS and other things with his gut. and when i came back this weekend for a round I was like damn I forgot how neurotypical he gets on rounds.

now there are varied results for all kids but as a whole kids seem to get a lot better on this protocol...I have also used chlorella with my son which i like...I give a hanful of the stuff as it seems if you give to little the chloreela doesnt have enuff to bind the metals with.

but nothing like when i do a round of chelation low/frequent dose.

you just start with low dose and if you are not comfortable you stop. I have heard of VERY few cases where the kids body was not able to tolerate the chelation...for those kids I would tell them ( if they asked my opinion) to try the chlorella and high vitamins/minerals/amino acids as those things also help the body to be more able to detox metals and crap. and again some kids cant handle any supps so i would start withfinding the most healing diet and biuld from there.

channa

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 12:33 PMSubject: Re: Speaking of B Vitamins - - help with chelating???

So I recently got my daughter's complete medical record in hand after years of trying (long distance, we have moved a lot), and sure enough, an early lead test she had at 6 months showed a lead level of 3. I cried and cried. The doctor we were seeing at the time told me the test came back with 'no lead'. I am guessing they meant no lead poisoning, which would be a level of 10. I tell you, the one thing that terrifies me is chelating. Mia always reacts negatively to naturally chelating foods. When she is on aciclovir she chelates naturally as well, and what looks like metals show up in her poop. Can anyone help to hold my hand through an explanation of using supplements to chelate?MANY THANKS, > > > >> > >>well you need proper good bacteria in gut to digest the b vitamins from food..but you are doing the kefir right? so I dont know..malabsorbtion ,will prevent us from getting nutrients from food. that my guess of top head. > >> > >>> >>To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex >> >>Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 11:14 AM> >>Subject: Speaking of B Vitamins> >> > >> > >> > >>> >>> >>> >>I've noticed Tom can go about 3 days or so without supplementing B's (B complex + B12, B6, and 5mthf) before we notice a difference. > >>Because of his food choices, logically, he should be getting plenty of B's. I wonder if there's something viral or perhaps metals that suck the B's out of a person much the same way the Measles suck Vitamin A out. > >>> >> Anyone have any interesting articles/links addressing

this? > >>> >>Maybe our dietary changes just need more time.... (??????) I've tried a couple times to see if he can sustain on his own, but we're not quite there. sooooo frustrating. I might try one more time in a week or two because he does have the sniffles right now (hooray for sniffles!) so he might just be feeling a little under the weather. But little dude is out in left field somewhere (not that I have much room to talk). > >>> >>-Tammy -- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.>

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....and cilantro. To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 7:35 PMSubject: Re: Speaking of B Vitamins - - help with

chelating???

Garlic is a natural chelator, I have heard several reports of good

results with either garlic alone or garlic+parsley

Natasa

> >

> > So I recently got my daughter's complete medical record in hand

after years of trying (long distance, we have moved a lot), and sure

enough, an early lead test she had at 6 months showed a lead level of 3.

I cried and cried. The doctor we were seeing at the time told me the

test came back with 'no lead'. I am guessing they meant no lead

poisoning, which would be a level of 10.

> >

> > I tell you, the one thing that terrifies me is chelating. Mia always

reacts negatively to naturally chelating foods. When she is on aciclovir

she chelates naturally as well, and what looks like metals show up in

her poop.

> >

> > Can anyone help to hold my hand through an explanation of using

supplements to chelate?

> >

> > MANY THANKS,

> >

> >

>

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I have heard cilantro is best used with chlorella together or with coconut cream to help bind the metals

To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex >Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 7:43 PMSubject: Re: Re: Speaking of B Vitamins - - help with chelating???

....and cilantro.

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 7:35 PMSubject: Re: Speaking of B Vitamins - - help with chelating???

Garlic is a natural chelator, I have heard several reports of goodresults with either garlic alone or garlic+parsleyNatasa> >> > So I recently got my daughter's complete medical record in handafter years of trying (long distance, we have moved a lot), and sureenough, an early lead test she had at 6 months showed a lead level of 3.I cried and cried. The doctor we were seeing at the time told me thetest came back with 'no lead'. I am guessing they meant no leadpoisoning, which would be a level of 10.> >> > I tell you, the one thing that terrifies me is chelating. Mia alwaysreacts negatively to naturally chelating foods. When she is on aciclovirshe chelates naturally as well, and what looks like metals show up inher poop.> >> > Can anyone help to hold my hand through an explanation of usingsupplements to chelate?> >> > MANY

THANKS,> > > >>

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yes I been using iodine with my son and really feel it is helping detox ..have also heard about it chelating metals as well as radiation and other stuff..

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 7:14 PMSubject: Re: Speaking of B Vitamins - - help with chelating???

Well, we did chelate with traditional DAN chelation (two rounds DMSA suppositories and 1 round DMSA oral.) I know many people advise against it, but it did work well for my son. My older son also chelated 2 rounds DMSA suppository, which also worked terrific for him. We saw A LOT of lead come out and also mercury.Anyway, what I wanted to share with you as another option is Iodoral. Whenever my youngest son chelates, we can actually SMELL the metal coming out of him through his sweat, particluarly at the back of his head and neck. Every night while chelating when we checked him before we went to bed, he would be sweaty and REEK of metal.Ten months ago, while not chelating, his doctor added Iodoral to his protocol. I immediately noticed that he started smelling like metal at night. One day I forgot to give him the Iodoral and he didn't smell like metal. So I did some research and found that Iodine IS effective at chelation. Here is a

sample article: http://www.alkalizeforhealth.net/Liodine2.htmThe first three months my son was on Iodoral, he smelled like metal every night. Then the metal smell started tapering off.So, you would need to do your own research to decide if you want to supplement with Iodoral. We have seen very good things with it.Cathy>> So I recently got my daughter's complete medical record in hand after years of trying (long distance, we have moved a lot), and sure enough, an early lead test she had at 6 months showed a lead level of 3. I cried and cried. The doctor we were seeing at the time told me the test came back with 'no lead'. I am

guessing they meant no lead poisoning, which would be a level of 10. > > I tell you, the one thing that terrifies me is chelating. Mia always reacts negatively to naturally chelating foods. When she is on aciclovir she chelates naturally as well, and what looks like metals show up in her poop. > > Can anyone help to hold my hand through an explanation of using supplements to chelate?> > MANY THANKS,> >

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Hello, about 2 year and 1 year ago my son had a heavy metals urine test. I wanto do a hair test with out a doctor, to check heavy metals and minerals. can you sugest me a good lab web side?Many people said hair test results are more real than unine because the last need a chelation to get results. I understand it is because all the heavy metals are in the tissues.We started clorella a week ago and will start cilantro juice (waiting to get the juicer it is expensive). Thank you Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 8:12 AMTo: mb12valtrex Subject: Re: Speaking of B Vitamins - - help with chelating??? We have high zinc too. What metals test did you use? I would like to do one without a Dr because we still haven't found one locally (moved a few months ago). > > > > well melissa, i will tell you my experience...I have heard from countless parents on the recoveryfromautism group report so many gains when starting AC chelation...I had taken a month off with my son as i got involved in MMS and other things with his gut. and when i came back this weekend for a round I was like damn I forgot how neurotypical he gets on rounds. > > now there are varied results for all kids but as a whole kids seem to get a lot better o[The entire original message is not included]

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Channa, you might be interested in googling "Golden Triangle cilantro, chlorella, and ALA" -TammyTo: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex >Sent: Tuesday, September

27, 2011 9:37 PMSubject: Re: Re: Speaking of B Vitamins - - help with chelating???

I have heard cilantro is best used with chlorella together or with coconut cream to help bind the metals

To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex >Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 7:43 PMSubject: Re: Re: Speaking of B Vitamins - - help with chelating???

....and cilantro.

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 7:35 PMSubject: Re: Speaking of B Vitamins - - help with chelating???

Garlic is a natural chelator, I have heard several reports of goodresults with either garlic alone or garlic+parsleyNatasa> >> > So I recently got my daughter's complete medical record in handafter years of trying (long distance, we have moved a lot), and sureenough, an early lead test she had at 6 months showed a lead level of 3.I cried and cried. The doctor we were seeing at the time told me thetest came back with 'no lead'. I am guessing they meant no leadpoisoning, which would be a level of 10.> >> > I tell you, the one thing that terrifies me is chelating. Mia alwaysreacts negatively to naturally chelating foods. When she is on aciclovirshe chelates naturally as well, and what looks like metals show up inher poop.> >> > Can anyone help to hold my hand through an explanation of usingsupplements to chelate?> >> > MANY

THANKS,> > > >>

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yes of course use my name to get in group..this group i will warn you is very hard core strict. they are all about the parents taking control of thier kids health not just following orders from a DAN you can see why i fell in love with this group right away!

reminds me of military a bit. you must be very serious about the protocol. but i will tell you i learned a ton on that group. and yes as Jackie said if you dont see mercury chances are it is not being exreted and BUT it is in their.

and most of all let me tell you my gut story(short version)

i never met a kid with worse gut then my own. he had severe chrohns malabsorbtion..diahreah..food came out same way it came in. he would wake up every one to three hours all night long every night screaming of horrible gut pain. he was bloated for any little thing he ate..leaky gut ..you name it my kid had going on with his gut.

two simple things improved his gut within one month. I took out all grains AND i started andy cutler chelation.

so that is why i get mad when fancy docs try to tell people dont do AC chelation till the gut gets healed. chelation had a huge part in how i healed my sons gut. my son was full of mercury lead and arsenic off the chart..

what do you think those metals do to a kids gut?

and again it may not work for all kids..BUT I have heard about 90 percent kids improving on the protocol of all the kids who try it.

and i am on about six yahoo groups for the last year. I have heard from a lot of parents.

channa

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 3:06 AMSubject: Re: Speaking of B Vitamins - - help with chelating???

Hi , When I first started they told me 9 out of 10 kids are nonexcreters of mercury, and that you won't see it in their hair test if they are indeed a nonexcreter. Mercury throws offsome of the other minerals in the kids, and there is a thingcalled the "counting rule" that you can use to figure out ifthey are holding mercury even if you can't see it in the valueof the hair test. (This might actually be Andy Cutler's rule,I can't remember exactly, it's been a really long time) but the rule only works with the hair test from one particular lab. You might find it explained somewhere in the archives here I'm not sure--otherwise you can find it on the generationrescue.org siteI think, under hair test. My ds was extremely high in arsenic also.They told me garlic was the best chelator of arsenic. Jackie > > > > > > > >> > > > >>well you need proper good bacteria in gut to digest the b vitamins from food..but you are doing the kefir right? so I dont know..malabsorbtion ,will prevent us from getting nutrients from food.

that my guess of top head. > > > >> > > > >>From: T Lynn <t.lynn28@>> > > >>To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex >> > > >>Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 11:14 AM> > > >>Subject: Speaking of B Vitamins> > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>I've noticed Tom can go about 3 days or so without supplementing B's (B complex + B12, B6, and 5mthf) before we notice a difference.

> > > >>Because of his food choices, logically, he should be getting plenty of B's. I wonder if there's something viral or perhaps metals that suck the B's out of a person much the same way the Measles suck Vitamin A out. > > > >>> > > >> Anyone have any interesting articles/links addressing this? > > > >>> > > >>Maybe our dietary changes just need more time.... (??????) I've tried a couple times to see if he can sustain on his own, but we're not quite there. sooooo frustrating. I might try one more time in a week or two because he does have the sniffles right now (hooray for sniffles!) so he might just be feeling a little under the weather. But little dude is out in left field somewhere (not that I have much room to talk). > > > >>>

> > >>-Tammy -- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.> > >> >>

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sounds good tammy..eventually i want to get my kid on all natural chelators but ac is workin so good for now...

To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex >Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 9:02 AMSubject: Re: Re: Speaking of B Vitamins - - help with chelating???

Channa, you might be interested in googling "Golden Triangle cilantro, chlorella, and ALA"

-Tammy

To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex >Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 9:37 PMSubject: Re: Re: Speaking of B Vitamins - - help with chelating???

I have heard cilantro is best used with chlorella together or with coconut cream to help bind the metals

To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex >Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 7:43 PMSubject: Re: Re: Speaking of B Vitamins - - help with chelating???

....and cilantro.

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 7:35 PMSubject: Re: Speaking of B Vitamins - - help with chelating???

Garlic is a natural chelator, I have heard several reports of goodresults with either garlic alone or garlic+parsleyNatasa> >> > So I recently got my daughter's complete medical record in handafter years of trying (long distance, we have moved a lot), and sureenough, an early lead test she had at 6 months showed a lead level of 3.I cried and cried. The doctor we were seeing at the time told me thetest came back with 'no lead'. I am guessing they meant no leadpoisoning, which would be a level of 10.> >> > I tell you, the one thing that terrifies me is chelating. Mia alwaysreacts negatively to naturally chelating foods. When she is on aciclovirshe chelates naturally as well, and what looks like metals show up inher poop.> >> > Can anyone help to hold my hand through an explanation of usingsupplements to chelate?> >> > MANY

THANKS,> > > >>

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I want to say docters data do the hair test let me double check and will get back to group on that one.

channa

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 8:12 AMSubject: Re: Speaking of B Vitamins - - help with chelating???

We have high zinc too. What metals test did you use? I would like to do one without a Dr because we still haven't found one locally (moved a few months ago).

> > > > > > > >> > > > >>well you need proper good bacteria in gut to digest the b vitamins from food..but you are doing the kefir right? so I dont know..malabsorbtion ,will prevent us from getting nutrients from food. that my guess of top head. > > > >> > > > >>From: T Lynn <t.lynn28@>> > > >>To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex >> > > >>Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 11:14 AM> > > >>Subject: Speaking of B Vitamins> > > >> > > >

>> > > > >> > > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>I've noticed Tom can go about 3 days or so without supplementing B's (B complex + B12, B6, and 5mthf) before we notice a difference. > > > >>Because of his food choices, logically, he should be getting plenty of B's. I wonder if there's something viral or perhaps metals that suck the B's out of a person much the same way the Measles suck Vitamin A out. > > > >>> > > >> Anyone have any interesting articles/links addressing this? > > > >>> > > >>Maybe our dietary changes just need more time.... (??????) I've tried a couple times to see if he can sustain on his own, but we're not quite there. sooooo frustrating. I might

try one more time in a week or two because he does have the sniffles right now (hooray for sniffles!) so he might just be feeling a little under the weather. But little dude is out in left field somewhere (not that I have much room to talk). > > > >>> > > >>-Tammy -- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.> > >> >>

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Yes. If memory serves me correctly, there should always be some sort of mercury present - ESPECIALLY if a kid has had their vaccines. If there is no mercury present, that is a sign that mercury is not being excreted. Mineral derrangement is also a sign. -TammyTo: mb12valtrex Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 3:06 AMSubject: Re: Speaking of B Vitamins - - help with chelating???

Hi ,

When I first started they told me 9 out of 10 kids are

nonexcreters of mercury, and that you won't see it in their

hair test if they are indeed a nonexcreter. Mercury throws off

some of the other minerals in the kids, and there is a thing

called the "counting rule" that you can use to figure out if

they are holding mercury even if you can't see it in the value

of the hair test. (This might actually be Andy Cutler's rule,

I can't remember exactly, it's been a really long time) but the rule only works with the hair test from one particular lab. You might find it explained somewhere in the archives here I'm not sure--

otherwise you can find it on the generationrescue.org site

I think, under hair test. My ds was extremely high in arsenic also.

They told me garlic was the best chelator of arsenic.

Jackie

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> > > >>I've noticed Tom can go about 3 days or so without supplementing B's (B complex + B12, B6, and 5mthf) before we notice a difference.

> > > >>Because of his food choices, logically, he should be getting plenty of B's. I wonder if there's something viral or perhaps metals that suck the B's out of a person much the same way the Measles suck Vitamin A out.

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> > > >>Maybe our dietary changes just need more time.... (??????) I've tried a couple times to see if he can sustain on his own, but we're not quite there. sooooo frustrating. I might try one more time in a week or two because he does have the sniffles right now (hooray for sniffles!) so he might just be feeling a little under the weather. But little dude is out in left field somewhere (not that I have much room to talk).

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> > > >>-Tammy -- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

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