RE: Provider number on Ambulance

[Guest guest]

Yes, this is a new addition to the rules, and is in place now, but will not

be enforced until January.

Thom Seeber, CCEMT-P

CES Manager, Coastal Bend Operations

American Medical Response

Provider number on Ambulance

I was informed by our manufacturer of our ambulances that they were told

(second hand yes) that the state was going to start requiring the state

provider

number on the side of the ambulances from now on. Is this true and if so

when does it start and what are the provisions. I will go and look around

on

the DSHS web site but thought someone might know off the top of their head.

Thanks,

Weeks

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[Guest guest]

Will this rule apply to First Responders Organizations vehicles also?

What is the rule, # placement, size etc.?

Pat Fitzpatrick

Potter County Fire-Rescue

Asst. Chief

Office

Cell

Fax

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From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On

Behalf Of Thom Seeber

Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 11:50 AM

To: texasems-l

Subject: RE: Provider number on Ambulance

Yes, this is a new addition to the rules, and is in place now, but will

not

be enforced until January.

Thom Seeber, CCEMT-P

CES Manager, Coastal Bend Operations

American Medical Response

Provider number on Ambulance

I was informed by our manufacturer of our ambulances that they were told

(second hand yes) that the state was going to start requiring the state

provider

number on the side of the ambulances from now on. Is this true and if so

when does it start and what are the provisions. I will go and look

around

on

the DSHS web site but thought someone might know off the top of their

head.

Thanks,

Weeks

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[Guest guest]

157.11 (d)

(7) All EMS vehicles shall have the name of the provider and a current

department issued EMS provider license number prominently displayed on both

sides of the vehicle in at least 2 inch lettering. The license number should

have the letters TX prior to the license number. This requirement does not

apply to fixed wing aircraft.

This applies only to ambulances.

Thom Seeber, CCEMT-P

CES Manager, Coastal Bend Operations

American Medical Response

Provider number on Ambulance

I was informed by our manufacturer of our ambulances that they were told

(second hand yes) that the state was going to start requiring the state

provider

number on the side of the ambulances from now on. Is this true and if so

when does it start and what are the provisions. I will go and look

around

on

the DSHS web site but thought someone might know off the top of their

head.

Thanks,

Weeks

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[Guest guest]

Ok, I have to ask, who's bright idea was this? I know that it was talked about

several yrs ago during a GETAC meeting, but was not acted on, because everyone

thought that it was going to be too much lettering on the side of an ambulance,

plus look like a " pest control " truck or other vehicle with such numbers.

I guess I'll have to go and read the new 157.11 rule.

Wayne

Subject: RE: Provider number on Ambulance

To: texasems-l

Date: Friday, September 5, 2008, 12:07 PM

157.11 (d)

(7) All EMS vehicles shall have the name of the provider and a current

department issued EMS provider license number prominently displayed on both

sides of the vehicle in at least 2 inch lettering. The license number should

have the letters TX prior to the license number. This requirement does not

apply to fixed wing aircraft.

This applies only to ambulances.

Thom Seeber, CCEMT-P

CES Manager, Coastal Bend Operations

American Medical Response

Provider number on Ambulance

I was informed by our manufacturer of our ambulances that they were told

(second hand yes) that the state was going to start requiring the state

provider

number on the side of the ambulances from now on. Is this true and if so

when does it start and what are the provisions. I will go and look

around

on

the DSHS web site but thought someone might know off the top of their

head.

Thanks,

Weeks

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[Guest guest]

Thanks for the info...I guess we will have them put our number on the side.

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[Guest guest]

Questions like these are best answered by your regional DSHS EMS

Specialists. If you don't know who that is or how to contact them, see

below.

Regards,

Donn

Austin - Central Group

Brett Hart, Central Group Manager

Denny

Meyer

(Voice)

(Fax)

South Group

Posado Group Manager

(Voice)

(Fax)

San Office

Carolyn Rutherford,

Lew Dessormeau,

Tim Archuleta(210)949-2148

San Angelo Office

(Voice)

(Fax)

Midland Office

(Voice)

(Fax)

El Paso Office

Guerrero

(Fax)

North Group

Veal, North Group Manager

Arlington Office

Elmes,

Donn ,

Post,

(Fax)

Tyler Office

Tumlinson,

Pat Dilday,

(Fax)

Canyon Office

Sharon Tillman

Anita

, Ext. 251

(Fax)

Abilene Office

Griffith

(Voice)

(Fax)

Wichita Falls Office

Jerry Bradshaw

(Voice)

(Fax)

East Group

Group Manager

(Voice)

(Fax)

Houston Office

Pam West,

Marilyn Talley,

Vallejo,

Singleton

Harlingen Office

Noemi ,

(Fax)

Beaumont Office

Ancelet

(Voice)

(Fax)

Corpus Christi Office

Reyes

(Fax)

[Guest guest]

Really it will not be hard to do. Can order nice cut numbers/letters

that match current lettering, buy the individual letters at the

hardware store works just not as nice looking, or as someone

commented could use templates and spray paint but that could turn out

badly if done wrong.

I actually have no real problem with this being done just not sure it

will prevent any wrong doing. I hope I did not come across as

opposed. The numbering/lettering doesn't change the part of EMS I'm

taking care of, but I can see how it could be a little bit of an

aggrevation for a big busy service with lots of ambulances.

Renny

>

> There have been several comments concerning the provider number

being placed on the sides of the EMS vehicles. Here is the language

in 157.11 that applies, please note the font size or color is not

specified in rule so that will be left to the provider in order for

the provider to keep with their color scheme.

>

> All EMS vehicles shall have the name of the provider and a current

department issued EMS provider license number prominently displayed

on both sides of the vehicle in at least 2 inch lettering. The

license number should have the letters TX prior to the license

number. This requirement does not apply to fixed wing aircraft.

>

> EMS vehicles are defined as:

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> (36) Emergency medical services vehicle-

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> (A) basic life support vehicle;

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> ( advanced life support vehicle;

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> © mobile intensive care unit (MICU);

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> (D) MICU rotor wing and MICU fixed wing air medical vehicles;

or

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> (E) specialized emergency medical service vehicle.

>

> This rule does not apply to aircraft nor does it apply to any

vehicle that is not defined as an EMS vehicle. It is my

understanding the EMS committee has 157.11 on their agenda, but it

not the intent of the department to postpone the enforcement of this

rule which will begin January 1, 2009.

>

> Maxie Bishop, RN, LP, State EMS Director

> EMS and Trauma Services

> maxie.bishop@...

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