Guest guest Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 Hello all, I am at my wits end with my son who has in the past few weeks starting biting his hand and hitting people with open palm at hte same time. He now has marks on his hand ,even though he pulls his sleeve over his hand before he bites it,the intensity and frequency of this has and is getting worse daily. today is a really bad day,he isjust off round maybe that is a factor,but this behaviour had started before we started AC,i just dont know what is going on with him,up to now i usually could figure things out> has anyone ever seen this before and if so what did you do ,his yeast is under control i think, any suggestions please black and blue mom-- Cotter4 Pollerton ManorCarlow059 9134964087 2637921 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 - This is a sign of sensory over-stimulation. Be aware of the environment in which these things happen. See if there are things that can help reduce sensory stimulation. Also, giving proprioceptive input can be regulating for these children, especially in times of sensory overload. Is your son seeing an OT? A good sensory diet can help, as well as listening therapy for auditory sensitivities. Also, a chew toy or even gum if your son can safely chew that, can be good alternative to biting himself and hitting others.HTH, RuthTo: mb12valtrex , Autism-Mercury , AutismRecoveryNetwork Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 12:41:10 PMSubject: Biting hand and hitting Hello all, I am at my wits end with my son who has in the past few weeks starting biting his hand and hitting people with open palm at hte same time. He now has marks on his hand ,even though he pulls his sleeve over his hand before he bites it,the intensity and frequency of this has and is getting worse daily. today is a really bad day,he isjust off round maybe that is a factor,but this behaviour had started before we started AC,i just dont know what is going on with him,up to now i usually could figure things out> has anyone ever seen this before and if so what did you do ,his yeast is under control i think, any suggestions please black and blue mom-- Cotter4 Pollerton ManorCarlow059 9134964087 2637921 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 Hi ruth,Thanks for that but even though he is a hugh sensory kid and has a sensory diet, sees ot weekly this is something else,background was he had cavities a while back and started biting hand that's how we knew. It now is a habit when he is upset or frustrated, I agree that he is prob getting some feedback from it ,how can I stop it he has all the sensory tools you spoke of,my gut is telling me this is more than a sensory issueThanks for advice will pull out chewy tube againLet your email find you with BlackBerry® from VodafoneSender: mb12valtrex Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 13:16:26 -0400 (EDT)To: <mb12valtrex >ReplyTo: mb12valtrex Subject: Re: Biting hand and hitting - This is a sign of sensory over-stimulation. Be aware of the environment in which these things happen. See if there are things that can help reduce sensory stimulation. Also, giving proprioceptive input can be regulating for these children, especially in times of sensory overload. Is your son seeing an OT? A good sensory diet can help, as well as listening therapy for auditory sensitivities. Also, a chew toy or even gum if your son can safely chew that, can be good alternative to biting himself and hitting others.HTH, RuthTo: mb12valtrex , Autism-Mercury , AutismRecoveryNetwork Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 12:41:10 PMSubject: Biting hand and hitting Hello all, I am at my wits end with my son who has in the past few weeks starting biting his hand and hitting people withopen palm at hte same time. He now has marks on his hand ,even though he pulls his sleeve over his hand before he bites it,the intensityand frequency of this has and is getting worse daily. today is a really bad day,he isjust off round maybe that is a factor,but this behaviour had started before we startedAC,i just dont know what is going on with him,up to now i usually could figure things out> has anyone ever seen this before and if so what did you do ,his yeast is under control i think, any suggestions please black and blue mom-- Cotter4 Pollerton ManorCarlow059 9134964087 2637921 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 have you tried adding some binders for when you come off round to mop up any redistribution? this is my last day on round 45 and i will be giving bentonite clay in juice tomorrow morning. channa To: mb12valtrex ; Autism-Mercury ; AutismRecoveryNetwork Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 12:41 PMSubject: Biting hand and hitting Hello all, I am at my wits end with my son who has in the past few weeks starting biting his hand and hitting people with open palm at hte same time. He now has marks on his hand ,even though he pulls his sleeve over his hand before he bites it,the intensity and frequency of this has and is getting worse daily. today is a really bad day,he isjust off round maybe that is a factor,but this behaviour had started before we started AC,i just dont know what is going on with him,up to now i usually could figure things out> has anyone ever seen this before and if so what did you do ,his yeast is under control i think, any suggestions please black and blue mom-- Cotter4 Pollerton ManorCarlow059 9134964087 2637921 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 Hi channa,Alfalfa and chlorella and all cell detox, thing is he had less of these behaviours during round. These are relatively new behaviours but had been present albeit not as severe before we started AC. Feel as though its habit now the min he is upset or frustrated its the first thing to happen. We are working with ABA consultant to try and decrease this but although it is a behaviour I am left wondering if there is a biomed cause I am missing. When he is in good form he is so cute,maybe part of it is that he is getting older and his frustration is hugh he is still non verbalLet your email find you with BlackBerry® from VodafoneSender: mb12valtrex Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 11:15:27 -0700 (PDT)To: mb12valtrex <mb12valtrex >ReplyTo: mb12valtrex Subject: Re: Biting hand and hitting have you tried adding some binders for when you come off round to mop up any redistribution?this is my last day on round 45 and i will be giving bentonite clay in juice tomorrow morning. channaTo: mb12valtrex ; Autism-Mercury ; AutismRecoveryNetwork Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 12:41 PMSubject: Biting hand and hitting Hello all, I am at my wits end with my son who has in the past few weeks starting biting his hand and hitting people withopen palm at hte same time. He now has marks on his hand ,even though he pulls his sleeve over his hand before he bites it,the intensityand frequency of this has and is getting worse daily. today is a really bad day,he isjust off round maybe that is a factor,but this behaviour had started before we startedAC,i just dont know what is going on with him,up to now i usually could figure things out> has anyone ever seen this before and if so what did you do ,his yeast is under control i think, any suggestions please black and blue mom-- Cotter4 Pollerton ManorCarlow059 9134964087 2637921 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 , how old is he? Is it possible puberty? Have you ruled out ammonia or clostridia? Tammg Sent from my Kindle Fire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 He is 8, ammonia is not one I had thought of ,what would you recommend I know we were on bh4 before for it but didn't tolerate it ,just spotted RNA ammonia support in back of press,he is on immunsist maybe he has a build up of die off. I was wondering about clostrida myself can't afford to do any testing,will stick him on rife for that tonite,thanks few heads def better than oneLet your email find you with BlackBerry® from VodafoneSender: mb12valtrex Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 14:35:57 -0400To: <mb12valtrex >ReplyTo: mb12valtrex Subject: Re: Biting hand and hitting , how old is he? Is it possible puberty?Have you ruled out ammonia or clostridia?TammgSent from my Kindle Fire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 Acetyl L-Carnitine helps with ammonia. http://www.wellnessresources.com/weight/articles/acetyl-l-carnitine_improves_ser\ ious_liver_malfunction/ Please know I don't suggest you buy from them, you can if you want, it's the info that is helpful. So does pantethine. It clears aldehydes from the liver. HTH > > He is 8, ammonia is not one I had thought of ,what would you recommend I know we were on bh4 before for it but didn't tolerate it ,just spotted RNA ammonia support in back of press,he is on immunsist maybe he has a build up of die off. I was wondering about clostrida myself can't afford to do any testing,will stick him on rife for that tonite,thanks few heads def better than one > Let your email find you with BlackBerry® from Vodafone > > Re: Biting hand and hitting > > , how old is he? Is it possible puberty? > > Have you ruled out ammonia or clostridia? > > Tammg > > Sent from my Kindle Fire > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 Thank you ,have not heard of pantethine before have the ALC in my pressLet your email find you with BlackBerry® from VodafoneSender: mb12valtrex Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 19:14:25 -0000To: <mb12valtrex >ReplyTo: mb12valtrex Subject: Re: Biting hand and hitting Acetyl L-Carnitine helps with ammonia. http://www.wellnessresources.com/weight/articles/acetyl-l-carnitine_improves_serious_liver_malfunction/Please know I don't suggest you buy from them, you can if you want, it's the info that is helpful.So does pantethine. It clears aldehydes from the liver.HTH>> He is 8, ammonia is not one I had thought of ,what would you recommend I know we were on bh4 before for it but didn't tolerate it ,just spotted RNA ammonia support in back of press,he is on immunsist maybe he has a build up of die off. I was wondering about clostrida myself can't afford to do any testing,will stick him on rife for that tonite,thanks few heads def better than one> Let your email find you with BlackBerry® from Vodafone> > Re: Biting hand and hitting> > , how old is he? Is it possible puberty?> > Have you ruled out ammonia or clostridia?> > Tammg> > Sent from my Kindle Fire> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 Biting, hitting, aggression is a sign of bacteria......could be clostridia, another bacteria or strep. Look into PANDAS at www.pandasnetwork.org To: mb12valtrex Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 2:43 PM Subject: Re: Biting hand and hitting He is 8, ammonia is not one I had thought of ,what would you recommend I know we were on bh4 before for it but didn't tolerate it ,just spotted RNA ammonia support in back of press,he is on immunsist maybe he has a build up of die off. I was wondering about clostrida myself can't afford to do any testing,will stick him on rife for that tonite,thanks few heads def better than oneLet your email find you with BlackBerry® from Vodafone Sender: mb12valtrex Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 14:35:57 -0400To: <mb12valtrex >ReplyTo: mb12valtrex Subject: Re: Biting hand and hitting , how old is he? Is it possible puberty? Have you ruled out ammonia or clostridia? Tammg Sent from my Kindle Fire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 I've never tried it but I've heard Cheryl recommend yuccas in the past. I didn't know about calcareous being good for ammonia...def worth taking a look into! Tammy Sent from my Kindle Fire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 Thank you, had let few things slip since starting AC will have to take step back and get this under controlLet your email find you with BlackBerry® from VodafoneSender: mb12valtrex Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 12:38:59 -0700 (PDT)To: mb12valtrex <mb12valtrex >ReplyTo: mb12valtrex Subject: Re: Biting hand and hitting Biting, hitting, aggression is a sign of bacteria......could be clostridia, another bacteria or strep. Look into PANDAS at www.pandasnetwork.org To:mb12valtrex Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 2:43 PM Subject: Re: Biting hand and hitting He is 8, ammonia is not one I had thought of ,what would you recommend I know we were on bh4 before for it but didn't tolerate it ,just spotted RNA ammonia support in back of press,he is on immunsist maybe he has a build up of die off. I was wondering about clostrida myself can't afford to do any testing,will stick him on rife for that tonite,thanks few heads def better than oneLet your email find you with BlackBerry® from VodafoneSender: mb12valtrex Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 14:35:57 -0400To: <mb12valtrex >ReplyTo: mb12valtrex Subject: Re: Biting hand and hitting , how old is he? Is it possible puberty?Have you ruled out ammonia or clostridia?TammgSent from my Kindle Fire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 Hi my suspicion is that its bacteria related-clostridia and or strep .Is his bm green ?.Are you doing ALA ?firstly- I think that the AC may have broken up some biofilm and released pockets of the nasty critters..... what are you doing to keep yeast under control -if you are killing off too much yeast this may also give rise to a bacteria flare if you dont balance it out with antibacterials ..they may be taking up the old yeast territory and proliferating.its no consolation to you but im seeing exactly the same here today except hes biting his baby brother.ive put biocidin in with olive leaf and may add in a goldenseal if it doesnt resolve.i agree entirely with the person suggesting binders .i use charcoal or enterosgel or fractionnated pectin.I can not get him to take the bentonite .im hearing great things about high doses of it as per " unique Healing.i got the edible earth clay from the UK and its melts into a liquid but i cant get my ds to drink it . hope you get to the bottom of it -tough going . HTH Claire X also is he having regular bms -joe gets very agressive when he is not having regular bms -again its a toxic playing field for the bad bugs > > > > He is 8, ammonia is not one I had thought of ,what would you recommend I know we were on bh4 before for it but didn't tolerate it ,just spotted RNA ammonia support in back of press,he is on immunsist maybe he has a build up of die off. I was wondering about clostrida myself can't afford to do any testing,will stick him on rife for that tonite,thanks few heads def better than one > > Let your email find you with BlackBerry® from Vodafone > > > > Re: Biting hand and hitting > > > > , how old is he? Is it possible puberty? > > > > Have you ruled out ammonia or clostridia? > > > > Tammg > > > > Sent from my Kindle Fire > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 Bicodin I had let slip past few weeks had been giving few drops daily thought it not doing anything will re introduce again sure is balancing act. Thanks claire hope things resolve for you soon as wellLet your email find you with BlackBerry® from VodafoneSender: mb12valtrex Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 20:23:49 -0000To: <mb12valtrex >ReplyTo: mb12valtrex Subject: Re: Biting hand and hitting Hi my suspicion is that its bacteria related-clostridia and or strep .Is his bm green ?.Are you doing ALA ?firstly- I think that the AC may have broken up some biofilm and released pockets of the nasty critters..... what are you doing to keep yeast under control -if you are killing off too much yeast this may also give rise to a bacteria flare if you dont balance it out with antibacterials .they may be taking up the old yeast territory and proliferating.its no consolation to you but im seeing exactly the same here today except hes biting his baby brother.ive put biocidin in with olive leaf and may add in a goldenseal if it doesnt resolve.i agree entirely with the person suggesting binders .i use charcoal or enterosgel or fractionnated pectin.I can not get him to take the bentonite .im hearing great things about high doses of it as per " unique Healing.i got the edible earth clay from the UK and its melts into a liquid but i cant get my ds to drink it .hope you get to the bottom of it -tough going .HTHClaire Xalso is he having regular bms -joe gets very agressive when he is not having regular bms -again its a toxic playing field for the bad bugs> >> > He is 8, ammonia is not one I had thought of ,what would you recommend I know we were on bh4 before for it but didn't tolerate it ,just spotted RNA ammonia support in back of press,he is on immunsist maybe he has a build up of die off. I was wondering about clostrida myself can't afford to do any testing,will stick him on rife for that tonite,thanks few heads def better than one> > Let your email find you with BlackBerry® from Vodafone> > > > Re: Biting hand and hitting> > > > , how old is he? Is it possible puberty?> > > > Have you ruled out ammonia or clostridia?> > > > Tammg> > > > Sent from my Kindle Fire> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 my son bites hand w stomch issues// constipation?? try not to reinforce the behavior with DON"T DO THATINSTEAD say hands down, try not to give eye contact It is very difficult to handle but the more attention & reinforcement , they say the more likely to reoccur.. hang in there.. To: mb12valtrex ; Autism-Mercury ; AutismRecoveryNetwork Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 12:41 PMSubject: Biting hand and hitting Hello all, I am at my wits end with my son who has in the past few weeks starting biting his hand and hitting people with open palm at hte same time. He now has marks on his hand ,even though he pulls his sleeve over his hand before he bites it,the intensity and frequency of this has and is getting worse daily. today is a really bad day,he isjust off round maybe that is a factor,but this behaviour had started before we started AC,i just dont know what is going on with him,up to now i usually could figure things out> has anyone ever seen this before and if so what did you do ,his yeast is under control i think, any suggestions please black and blue mom-- Cotter4 Pollerton ManorCarlow059 9134964087 2637921 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 Hi ,My son has been doing this since he was 1 1/2 years old. He is now 6. Triggers are pain, frustration, overwhelmed by something. We started using B6 and DMG about 1 year ago, and it has been reduced significantly. Do a search for Dr, Bernard Rimland, B6, and DMG. Lots of info out there about the protocol. We also supplement calcium and magnesium, because his hair tests showed him very low in both, but magnesium is commonly supplement by people who supplement with B6 and DMG.You need to make sure he is not in pain though. No amount of supplements with deal with SIB if pain is a trigger.Let me know if you have any questions. Hello all, I am at my wits end with my son who has in the past few weeks starting biting his hand and hitting people with open palm at hte same time. He now has marks on his hand ,even though he pulls his sleeve over his hand before he bites it,the intensity and frequency of this has and is getting worse daily. today is a really bad day,he isjust off round maybe that is a factor,but this behaviour had started before we started AC,i just dont know what is going on with him,up to now i usually could figure things out> has anyone ever seen this before and if so what did you do ,his yeast is under control i think, any suggestions please black and blue mom-- Cotter4 Pollerton ManorCarlow059 9134964087 2637921 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 As I mentioned to , my son does this when in pain. Treat the pain and the behaviour goes away. It is a response to being overwhelmed. I have learned It is a physiological response not just a behaviour. my son bites hand w stomch issues// constipation?? try not to reinforce the behavior with DON"T DO THATINSTEAD say hands down, try not to give eye contact It is very difficult to handle but the more attention & reinforcement , they say the more likely to reoccur.. hang in there.. To: mb12valtrex ; Autism-Mercury ; AutismRecoveryNetwork Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 12:41 PMSubject: Biting hand and hitting Hello all, I am at my wits end with my son who has in the past few weeks starting biting his hand and hitting people with open palm at hte same time. He now has marks on his hand ,even though he pulls his sleeve over his hand before he bites it,the intensity and frequency of this has and is getting worse daily. today is a really bad day,he isjust off round maybe that is a factor,but this behaviour had started before we started AC,i just dont know what is going on with him,up to now i usually could figure things out> has anyone ever seen this before and if so what did you do ,his yeast is under control i think, any suggestions please black and blue mom-- Cotter4 Pollerton ManorCarlow059 9134964087 2637921 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 Arggg! Darn "auto correct". I meant yucca for ammonia. And that I didn't know about ALCAR for ammonia. : ) Sent from my Kindle Fire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 maybewhen you come off round you could increase the binders even more to soak up any loose metals left....since he gets worse after round....I will throw some things out there if you do this or already looked into it then ignore:) molybedenum is good for supporting detox pathways...b12....epsom salt baths.....or baking soda baths....try both...and my favorite is teaspoon bakin soda in half glass water....maybe a touch of juice for taste....i find the bakin soda (no aluminum!) is good for a lot of things...thats always my final answer when every thing else fails...bakin soda and benedryl.... channa To: mb12valtrex Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 2:23 PMSubject: Re: Biting hand and hitting Hi channa,Alfalfa and chlorella and all cell detox, thing is he had less of these behaviours during round. These are relatively new behaviours but had been present albeit not as severe before we started AC. Feel as though its habit now the min he is upset or frustrated its the first thing to happen. We are working with ABA consultant to try and decrease this but although it is a behaviour I am left wondering if there is a biomed cause I am missing. When he is in good form he is so cute,maybe part of it is that he is getting older and his frustration is hugh he is still non verbal Let your email find you with BlackBerry® from Vodafone Sender: mb12valtrex Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 11:15:27 -0700 (PDT) To: mb12valtrex <mb12valtrex > ReplyTo: mb12valtrex Subject: Re: Biting hand and hitting have you tried adding some binders for when you come off round to mop up any redistribution? this is my last day on round 45 and i will be giving bentonite clay in juice tomorrow morning. channa To: mb12valtrex ; Autism-Mercury ; AutismRecoveryNetwork Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 12:41 PMSubject: Biting hand and hitting Hello all, I am at my wits end with my son who has in the past few weeks starting biting his hand and hitting people with open palm at hte same time. He now has marks on his hand ,even though he pulls his sleeve over his hand before he bites it,the intensity and frequency of this has and is getting worse daily. today is a really bad day,he isjust off round maybe that is a factor,but this behaviour had started before we started AC,i just dont know what is going on with him,up to now i usually could figure things out> has anyone ever seen this before and if so what did you do ,his yeast is under control i think, any suggestions please black and blue mom-- Cotter4 Pollerton ManorCarlow059 9134964087 2637921 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 Hi mary,Have you increased zinc lately? I have zinc on my mind since we are currently having issues...it is possible that my daughter's high testosterone levels are related to high dose zinc supplementation (zinc can increase testosterone)...she is nt but started biting her arm in frustration about a year ago...about the time she started high zinc supplementation...we had attributed it to clostridia (which is still a possibility for us)...just another thought that hopefully doesn't confuse things!!!Hope you can get it worked out!!-- Sent from my Palm Pre maybewhen you come off round you could increase the binders even more to soak up any loose metals left....since he gets worse after round....I will throw some things out there if you do this or already looked into it then ignore:) molybedenum is good for supporting detox pathways...b12....epsom salt baths.....or baking soda baths....try both...and my favorite is teaspoon bakin soda in half glass water....maybe a touch of juice for taste....i find the bakin soda (no aluminum!) is good for a lot of things...thats always my final answer when every thing else fails...bakin soda and benedryl.... channa To: mb12valtrex Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 2:23 PMSubject: Re: Biting hand and hitting Hi channa,Alfalfa and chlorella and all cell detox, thing is he had less of these behaviours during round. These are relatively new behaviours but had been present albeit not as severe before we started AC. Feel as though its habit now the min he is upset or frustrated its the first thing to happen. We are working with ABA consultant to try and decrease this but although it is a behaviour I am left wondering if there is a biomed cause I am missing. When he is in good form he is so cute,maybe part of it is that he is getting older and his frustration is hugh he is still non verbal Let your email find you with BlackBerry® from Vodafone Sender: mb12valtrex Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 11:15:27 -0700 (PDT) To: mb12valtrex <mb12valtrex > ReplyTo: mb12valtrex Subject: Re: Biting hand and hitting have you tried adding some binders for when you come off round to mop up any redistribution? this is my last day on round 45 and i will be giving bentonite clay in juice tomorrow morning. channa To: mb12valtrex ; Autism-Mercury ; AutismRecoveryNetwork Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 12:41 PMSubject: Biting hand and hitting Hello all, I am at my wits end with my son who has in the past few weeks starting biting his hand and hitting people with open palm at hte same time. He now has marks on his hand ,even though he pulls his sleeve over his hand before he bites it,the intensity and frequency of this has and is getting worse daily. today is a really bad day,he isjust off round maybe that is a factor,but this behaviour had started before we started AC,i just dont know what is going on with him,up to now i usually could figure things out> has anyone ever seen this before and if so what did you do ,his yeast is under control i think, any suggestions please black and blue mom-- Cotter4 Pollerton ManorCarlow059 9134964087 2637921 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 , Today at our appointment I learned about 2 things...both I was going to wait to post on but I'm thinking you need to ponder these things now. 1) She has just taken us from Alfalfa which he has done really well on for a couple of years now to fresh ground flax seed oil which is a binder as well. 2) She told me she'd send me a copy of her powerpoint which (Better Health Guy...LOVE this guy!!) said was " absolutely superb " . I just finished looking at it....I'll be referring back to it many times in the future....see if anything pops out to you at what to do: http://betterhealthguy.com/joomla/blog/259-biomedical-tips-and-tricks-with-amy-d\ erksen-nd If the link does not work google " better health guy scott " ...here's the link to his site: http://betterhealthguy.com/joomla/index.php On the left hand side click on " Biomedical Tips and Tricks with Amy Derksen ND " Open the PDF to the Powerpoint presentation. GREAT STUFF!!!!!! Blessings, Rita > > > & nbsp; > > > > > > > > > > > maybewhen you come off round you could increase the binders even more to soak up any loose metals left....since he gets worse after round....I will throw some things out there & nbsp; if you do this or already looked into it then ignore:) > molybedenum is good for supporting detox pathways...b12....epsom salt baths.....or baking soda baths....try both...and my favorite is teaspoon bakin soda in half glass water....maybe a touch of juice for taste....i find the bakin soda (no aluminum!) & nbsp; is good for a lot of things...thats always my final answer when every thing else fails...bakin soda and benedryl.... > channa > > > > > > From: " cotter.mary1@... " cotter.mary1@... > To: mb12valtrex > Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 2:23 PM > Subject: Re: Biting hand and hitting > > > > & nbsp; > > Hi channa, > > Alfalfa and chlorella and all cell detox, thing is he had less of these behaviours during round. These are relatively new behaviours but had been present albeit not as severe before we started AC. Feel as though its habit now the min he is upset or frustrated its the first thing to happen. We are working with ABA consultant to try and decrease this but although it is a behaviour I am left wondering if there is a biomed cause I am missing. When he is in good form he is so cute,maybe part of it is that he is getting older and his frustration is hugh he is still non verbal > Let your email find you with BlackBerry® from Vodafone > > From: Channa Brennon channabrennon@... > Sender: mb12valtrex > Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 11:15:27 -0700 (PDT) > To: mb12valtrex@... > ReplyTo: mb12valtrex > Subject: Re: Biting hand and hitting > > & nbsp; > > > have you tried adding some binders for when you come off round to mop up any redistribution? > this is my last day on round 45 and i will be giving bentonite clay in juice tomorrow morning. > channa > > > > > > From: Cotter cotter.mary1@... > To: mb12valtrex ; Autism-Mercury ; AutismRecoveryNetwork > Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 12:41 PM > Subject: Biting hand and hitting > > > > & nbsp; > > Hello all, > & nbsp; > I am at my wits end with my son who has in the past few weeks starting biting his hand and hitting people with > open palm at hte same time. > & nbsp; > He now has marks on his hand ,even though he pulls his sleeve over his hand before he bites it,the intensity > and frequency of this has and is getting worse daily. > & nbsp; > today is a really bad day,he isjust off round maybe that is a factor,but this behaviour had started before we started > AC,i just dont know what is going on with him,up to now i usually could figure things out & gt; > & nbsp; > has anyone ever seen this before and if so what did you do ,his yeast is under control i think, > & nbsp; > any suggestions please > & nbsp; > black and blue mom > -- > Cotter > 4 & nbsp;Pollerton Manor > Carlow > 059 9134964 > 087 2637921 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 Thanks channaLet your email find you with BlackBerry® from VodafoneSender: mb12valtrex Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 20:45:47 -0700 (PDT)To: mb12valtrex <mb12valtrex >ReplyTo: mb12valtrex Subject: Re: Biting hand and hitting maybewhen you come off round you could increase the binders even more to soak up any loose metals left....since he gets worse after round....I will throw some things out there if you do this or already looked into it then ignore:)molybedenum is good for supporting detox pathways...b12....epsom salt baths.....or baking soda baths....try both...and my favorite is teaspoon bakin soda in half glass water....maybe a touch of juice for taste....i find the bakin soda (no aluminum!) is good for a lot of things...thats always my final answer when every thing else fails...bakin soda and benedryl....channaTo: mb12valtrex Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 2:23 PMSubject: Re: Biting hand and hitting Hi channa,Alfalfa and chlorella and all cell detox, thing is he had less of these behaviours during round. These are relatively new behaviours but had been present albeit not as severe before we started AC. Feel as though its habit now the min he is upset or frustrated its the first thing to happen. We are working with ABA consultant to try and decrease this but although it is a behaviour I am left wondering if there is a biomed cause I am missing. When he is in good form he is so cute,maybe part of it is that he is getting older and his frustration is hugh he is still non verbalLet your email find you with BlackBerry® from Vodafone Sender: mb12valtrex Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 11:15:27 -0700 (PDT)To: mb12valtrex <mb12valtrex >ReplyTo: mb12valtrex Subject: Re: Biting hand and hitting have you tried adding some binders for when you come off round to mop up any redistribution?this is my last day on round 45 and i will be giving bentonite clay in juice tomorrow morning. channaTo: mb12valtrex ; Autism-Mercury ; AutismRecoveryNetwork Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 12:41 PMSubject: Biting hand and hitting Hello all, I am at my wits end with my son who has in the past few weeks starting biting his hand and hitting people withopen palm at hte same time. He now has marks on his hand ,even though he pulls his sleeve over his hand before he bites it,the intensityand frequency of this has and is getting worse daily. today is a really bad day,he isjust off round maybe that is a factor,but this behaviour had started before we startedAC,i just dont know what is going on with him,up to now i usually could figure things out> has anyone ever seen this before and if so what did you do ,his yeast is under control i think, any suggestions please black and blue mom-- Cotter4 Pollerton ManorCarlow059 9134964087 2637921 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 No zinc increase ,he on dose of 25mg for past year.Let your email find you with BlackBerry® from VodafoneSender: mb12valtrex Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 00:03:51 -0400To: mb12valtrex <mb12valtrex >ReplyTo: mb12valtrex Subject: Re: Biting hand and hitting Hi mary,Have you increased zinc lately? I have zinc on my mind since we are currently having issues...it is possible that my daughter's high testosterone levels are related to high dose zinc supplementation (zinc can increase testosterone)...she is nt but started biting her arm in frustration about a year ago...about the time she started high zinc supplementation...we had attributed it to clostridia (which is still a possibility for us)...just another thought that hopefully doesn't confuse things!!!Hope you can get it worked out!!-- Sent from my Palm Pre maybewhen you come off round you could increase the binders even more to soak up any loose metals left....since he gets worse after round....I will throw some things out there if you do this or already looked into it then ignore:)molybedenum is good for supporting detox pathways...b12....epsom salt baths.....or baking soda baths....try both...and my favorite is teaspoon bakin soda in half glass water....maybe a touch of juice for taste....i find the bakin soda (no aluminum!) is good for a lot of things...thats always my final answer when every thing else fails...bakin soda and benedryl....channaTo: mb12valtrex Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 2:23 PMSubject: Re: Biting hand and hitting Hi channa,Alfalfa and chlorella and all cell detox, thing is he had less of these behaviours during round. These are relatively new behaviours but had been present albeit not as severe before we started AC. Feel as though its habit now the min he is upset or frustrated its the first thing to happen. We are working with ABA consultant to try and decrease this but although it is a behaviour I am left wondering if there is a biomed cause I am missing. When he is in good form he is so cute,maybe part of it is that he is getting older and his frustration is hugh he is still non verbalLet your email find you with BlackBerry® from Vodafone Sender: mb12valtrex Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 11:15:27 -0700 (PDT)To: mb12valtrex <mb12valtrex >ReplyTo: mb12valtrex Subject: Re: Biting hand and hitting have you tried adding some binders for when you come off round to mop up any redistribution?this is my last day on round 45 and i will be giving bentonite clay in juice tomorrow morning. channaTo: mb12valtrex ; Autism-Mercury ; AutismRecoveryNetwork Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 12:41 PMSubject: Biting hand and hitting Hello all, I am at my wits end with my son who has in the past few weeks starting biting his hand and hitting people withopen palm at hte same time. He now has marks on his hand ,even though he pulls his sleeve over his hand before he bites it,the intensityand frequency of this has and is getting worse daily. today is a really bad day,he isjust off round maybe that is a factor,but this behaviour had started before we startedAC,i just dont know what is going on with him,up to now i usually could figure things out> has anyone ever seen this before and if so what did you do ,his yeast is under control i think, any suggestions please black and blue mom-- Cotter4 Pollerton ManorCarlow059 9134964087 2637921 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 ,May I know how did you know it was clostridia? What tests and treatment did you do? Thanks To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Tuesday, 13 March 2012 12:03 AM Subject: Re: Biting hand and hitting Hi mary,Have you increased zinc lately? I have zinc on my mind since we are currently having issues...it is possible that my daughter's high testosterone levels are related to high dose zinc supplementation (zinc can increase testosterone)...she is nt but started biting her arm in frustration about a year ago...about the time she started high zinc supplementation...we had attributed it to clostridia (which is still a possibility for us)...just another thought that hopefully doesn't confuse things!!!Hope you can get it worked out!!-- Sent from my Palm Pre maybewhen you come off round you could increase the binders even more to soak up any loose metals left....since he gets worse after round....I will throw some things out there if you do this or already looked into it then ignore:) molybedenum is good for supporting detox pathways...b12....epsom salt baths.....or baking soda baths....try both...and my favorite is teaspoon bakin soda in half glass water....maybe a touch of juice for taste....i find the bakin soda (no aluminum!) is good for a lot of things...thats always my final answer when every thing else fails...bakin soda and benedryl.... channa To: mb12valtrex Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 2:23 PMSubject: Re: Biting hand and hitting Hi channa,Alfalfa and chlorella and all cell detox, thing is he had less of these behaviours during round. These are relatively new behaviours but had been present albeit not as severe before we started AC. Feel as though its habit now the min he is upset or frustrated its the first thing to happen. We are working with ABA consultant to try and decrease this but although it is a behaviour I am left wondering if there is a biomed cause I am missing. When he is in good form he is so cute,maybe part of it is that he is getting older and his frustration is hugh he is still non verbal Let your email find you with BlackBerry® from Vodafone Sender: mb12valtrex Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 11:15:27 -0700 (PDT) To: mb12valtrex <mb12valtrex > ReplyTo: mb12valtrex Subject: Re: Biting hand and hitting have you tried adding some binders for when you come off round to mop up any redistribution? this is my last day on round 45 and i will be giving bentonite clay in juice tomorrow morning. channa To: mb12valtrex ; Autism-Mercury ; AutismRecoveryNetwork Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 12:41 PMSubject: Biting hand and hitting Hello all, I am at my wits end with my son who has in the past few weeks starting biting his hand and hitting people with open palm at hte same time. He now has marks on his hand ,even though he pulls his sleeve over his hand before he bites it,the intensity and frequency of this has and is getting worse daily. today is a really bad day,he isjust off round maybe that is a factor,but this behaviour had started before we started AC,i just dont know what is going on with him,up to now i usually could figure things out> has anyone ever seen this before and if so what did you do ,his yeast is under control i think, any suggestions please black and blue mom-- Cotter4 Pollerton ManorCarlow059 9134964087 2637921 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 RitaSorry to butt in again!!! I ve bin giving my do flax seed oil for the past 2-3 mths(more for its omega 3 properties and in gaps she suggest a nut and seed oil to give the kids) My question is how much do u give for it to work as a binder???My son react strangely to apple cider vinegar in that his speech improves but the hand flapping comes back++ so am wondering if the ACV is moving metals about??Might stop the ACV and go back to the HCL digestive enzymes he was on...Many thanksSent from my iPod , Today at our appointment I learned about 2 things...both I was going to wait to post on but I'm thinking you need to ponder these things now. 1) She has just taken us from Alfalfa which he has done really well on for a couple of years now to fresh ground flax seed oil which is a binder as well. 2) She told me she'd send me a copy of her powerpoint which (Better Health Guy...LOVE this guy!!) said was "absolutely superb". I just finished looking at it....I'll be referring back to it many times in the future....see if anything pops out to you at what to do: http://betterhealthguy.com/joomla/blog/259-biomedical-tips-and-tricks-with-amy-derksen-nd If the link does not work google "better health guy scott"...here's the link to his site: http://betterhealthguy.com/joomla/index.php On the left hand side click on "Biomedical Tips and Tricks with Amy Derksen ND" Open the PDF to the Powerpoint presentation. GREAT STUFF!!!!!! Blessings, Rita > > > & nbsp; > > > > > > > > > > > maybewhen you come off round you could increase the binders even more to soak up any loose metals left....since he gets worse after round....I will throw some things out there & nbsp; if you do this or already looked into it then ignore:) > molybedenum is good for supporting detox pathways...b12....epsom salt baths.....or baking soda baths....try both...and my favorite is teaspoon bakin soda in half glass water....maybe a touch of juice for taste....i find the bakin soda (no aluminum!) & nbsp; is good for a lot of things...thats always my final answer when every thing else fails...bakin soda and benedryl.... > channa > > > > > > From: "cotter.mary1@..." cotter.mary1@... > To: mb12valtrex > Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 2:23 PM > Subject: Re: Biting hand and hitting > > > > & nbsp; > > Hi channa, > > Alfalfa and chlorella and all cell detox, thing is he had less of these behaviours during round. These are relatively new behaviours but had been present albeit not as severe before we started AC. Feel as though its habit now the min he is upset or frustrated its the first thing to happen. We are working with ABA consultant to try and decrease this but although it is a behaviour I am left wondering if there is a biomed cause I am missing. When he is in good form he is so cute,maybe part of it is that he is getting older and his frustration is hugh he is still non verbal > Let your email find you with BlackBerry® from Vodafone > > From: Channa Brennon channabrennon@... > Sender: mb12valtrex > Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 11:15:27 -0700 (PDT) > To: mb12valtrex@... > ReplyTo: mb12valtrex > Subject: Re: Biting hand and hitting > > & nbsp; > > > have you tried adding some binders for when you come off round to mop up any redistribution? > this is my last day on round 45 and i will be giving bentonite clay in juice tomorrow morning. > channa > > > > > > From: Cotter cotter.mary1@... > To: mb12valtrex ; Autism-Mercury ; AutismRecoveryNetwork > Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 12:41 PM > Subject: Biting hand and hitting > > > > & nbsp; > > Hello all, > & nbsp; > I am at my wits end with my son who has in the past few weeks starting biting his hand and hitting people with > open palm at hte same time. > & nbsp; > He now has marks on his hand ,even though he pulls his sleeve over his hand before he bites it,the intensity > and frequency of this has and is getting worse daily. > & nbsp; > today is a really bad day,he isjust off round maybe that is a factor,but this behaviour had started before we started > AC,i just dont know what is going on with him,up to now i usually could figure things out & gt; > & nbsp; > has anyone ever seen this before and if so what did you do ,his yeast is under control i think, > & nbsp; > any suggestions please > & nbsp; > black and blue mom > -- > Cotter > 4 & nbsp;Pollerton Manor > Carlow > 059 9134964 > 087 2637921 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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