Guest guest Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 OK, I would like to know what is behind the new rule to have the provider license number displayed on the side of your ambulance. If anyone knows who/what pushed this please enlighten us. Lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 This is a requirement in Pennsylvania. It is a way to I.D. the service by the state and if the public makes a compliment/complaint it is easier to figure out who it is instead of looking at a data base of names and etc. Basically it is accountability issue. > OK, I would like to know what is behind the new rule to have the provider > license number displayed on the side of your ambulance. If anyone knows > who/what pushed this please enlighten us. > > > > Lee > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 I'm not sure but if it says BFE Fire EMS on the side it would be fairly easy to figure it out. Just my 2 cents Lee From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of Johann Haire Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 2:13 PM To: texasems-l Subject: Re: New DSHS rule This is a requirement in Pennsylvania. It is a way to I.D. the service by the state and if the public makes a compliment/complaint it is easier to figure out who it is instead of looking at a data base of names and etc. Basically it is accountability issue. On 9/13/08, Lee <L@... <mailto:L%40techproservices.net> > wrote: > OK, I would like to know what is behind the new rule to have the provider > license number displayed on the side of your ambulance. If anyone knows > who/what pushed this please enlighten us. > > > > Lee > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 Lee, This has been in the works for years. At Shackelford County we put the license number on the trucks at least three years ago in anticipation of this rule. The reason for the rule is so that the public will have a way to identify the owners of ambulances. As you know, with over 100 ambulance companies in Dallas County and over 200 in , there are zillions of ambulances running around with some version of " LifeCare or LifeMax or LifeLove or Mediflux, or Medilove, or MedSpeed, " and so forth on them. So it's protection for the public. However, I think they should also make these companies place the numbers under the ambulance also, so that you can read the number as you are being run over by the truck. <eg> GG In a message dated 9/13/08 11:18:58 AM, L@... writes: > > OK, I would like to know what is behind the new rule to have the provider > license number displayed on the side of your ambulance. If anyone knows > who/what pushed this please enlighten us. > > Lee > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 sounds like Texas trying to get a few more bucks... I guess this would be like plumbers and electricians having thier license numbers on their vehicles too. FieldMedic Austin, Texas Be Warned, my opinions are my own. They do not express the views, protocols, agendas or concerns of those for whom I work with or support. Once again, the words contained herein are strictly of my own opinions. " There is no darkness like that of IGNORANCE " New DSHS rule OK, I would like to know what is behind the new rule to have the provider license number displayed on the side of your ambulance. If anyone knows who/what pushed this please enlighten us. Lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 Exactly! Like they can read the license numbers on the big red truck at 60 miles an hour anyway. Lee From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of Amon Dempsey Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 10:13 PM To: texasems-l Subject: Re: New DSHS rule sounds like Texas trying to get a few more bucks... I guess this would be like plumbers and electricians having thier license numbers on their vehicles too. FieldMedic Austin, Texas Be Warned, my opinions are my own. They do not express the views, protocols, agendas or concerns of those for whom I work with or support. Once again, the words contained herein are strictly of my own opinions. " There is no darkness like that of IGNORANCE " New DSHS rule OK, I would like to know what is behind the new rule to have the provider license number displayed on the side of your ambulance. If anyone knows who/what pushed this please enlighten us. Lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 Mr. or Ms. Field Medic, Please explain exactly how the state will manage to make any money off a rule making ambulances have the license number painted on them. I'm easily confused, so please explain. -- > > sounds like Texas trying to get a few more bucks... I guess this would be like plumbers and electricians having thier license numbers on their vehicles too. > > FieldMedic > Austin, Texas > > > Be Warned, my opinions are my own. They do not express the views, protocols, agendas or concerns of those for whom I work with or support. Once again, the words contained herein are strictly of my own opinions. > > > " There is no darkness like that of IGNORANCE " > > > > New DSHS rule > > > OK, I would like to know what is behind the new rule to have the provider > license number displayed on the side of your ambulance. If anyone knows > who/what pushed this please enlighten us. > > Lee > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 Mr. Lee, Like Mr. Gandy said, the reason is obvious. There are way too many private ambulances with similar or almost identical names, and a license number on the ambulance might make identifying them easier. As an example, I looked up ambulance companies in Texas and found these variations of common names. 5 Life Care (4 in the same city) 2 Life Star 3 Life Tech 2 Life Guard (Both in the Dallas area) 5 Life Line (3 in the same city) 2 Life Net 2 Life Saver 2 Life Time 2 Care First 2 Care Plus (Both in the same city) 3 Medic 1 or Medic One 16 other variations of Medic 5 Mercy (4 in the same city) 6 Star In other words, it isn't the big red truck we should be concerned about, and I have to wonder why this has your shorts in such a wad. Care to explain? -- > > Exactly! Like they can read the license numbers on the big red truck at 60 > miles an hour anyway. > > > > Lee > > > > From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems- l ] On > Behalf Of Amon Dempsey > Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 10:13 PM > To: texasems-l > Subject: Re: New DSHS rule > > > > sounds like Texas trying to get a few more bucks... I guess this would be > like plumbers and electricians having thier license numbers on their > vehicles too. > > FieldMedic > Austin, Texas > > Be Warned, my opinions are my own. They do not express the views, protocols, > agendas or concerns of those for whom I work with or support. Once again, > the words contained herein are strictly of my own opinions. > > " There is no darkness like that of IGNORANCE " > > New DSHS rule > > OK, I would like to know what is behind the new rule to have the provider > license number displayed on the side of your ambulance. If anyone knows > who/what pushed this please enlighten us. > > Lee > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 Regulations like these only result in strengthening our industry. There should be no reason that any legitimate service should complain about any measure that improves our profession as a whole. Be surprised by such new regulation, sure; but then think how those new changes will affect EMS overall, not just your little corner. We can all agree that there may be some inconvenience associated with these changes, but they are a small price to pay for the continued road to the goal. Thom Seeber, CCEMT-P CES Manager, Coastal Bend Operations American Medical Response Re: New DSHS rule > > > > sounds like Texas trying to get a few more bucks... I guess this would be > like plumbers and electricians having thier license numbers on their > vehicles too. > > FieldMedic > Austin, Texas > > Be Warned, my opinions are my own. They do not express the views, protocols, > agendas or concerns of those for whom I work with or support. Once again, > the words contained herein are strictly of my own opinions. > > " There is no darkness like that of IGNORANCE " > > New DSHS rule > > OK, I would like to know what is behind the new rule to have the provider > license number displayed on the side of your ambulance. If anyone knows > who/what pushed this please enlighten us. > > Lee > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2008 Report Share Posted September 14, 2008 , In my neck of the woods, the way the State would make money on such a policy is by enforcing fines and penalties if the lettering isn't to their exact measurements and standards. If the policy was for it to be in 2in tall stencil-style numbers and a company used 3in tall numbers in the same font as their logo, they'd be fined for every day the numbers were incorrect. The money-to-be-made is in the details and relentless enforcement of penalties. - Kristi Mr. or Ms. Field Medic, Please explain exactly how the state will manage to make any money off a rule making ambulances have the license number painted on them. I'm easily confused, so please explain. -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2008 Report Share Posted September 14, 2008 It simply appears to me to be another attempt at micromanaging something that isn't really an issue when there are things out there that truly effect patient care that no one seems to care about. About the only place I can see that this might have any positive purpose would be somewhere like county where new services are popping up every day. OK, now that I seemed to have pissed off the masses on something totally ridiculous I am done Mr. Lee From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of simple_emt Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 11:51 PM To: texasems-l Subject: Re: New DSHS rule Mr. Lee, Like Mr. Gandy said, the reason is obvious. There are way too many private ambulances with similar or almost identical names, and a license number on the ambulance might make identifying them easier. As an example, I looked up ambulance companies in Texas and found these variations of common names. 5 Life Care (4 in the same city) 2 Life Star 3 Life Tech 2 Life Guard (Both in the Dallas area) 5 Life Line (3 in the same city) 2 Life Net 2 Life Saver 2 Life Time 2 Care First 2 Care Plus (Both in the same city) 3 Medic 1 or Medic One 16 other variations of Medic 5 Mercy (4 in the same city) 6 Star In other words, it isn't the big red truck we should be concerned about, and I have to wonder why this has your shorts in such a wad. Care to explain? -- > > Exactly! Like they can read the license numbers on the big red truck at 60 > miles an hour anyway. > > > > Lee > > > > From: texasems-l <mailto:texasems-l%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:texasems- l <mailto:l%40yahoogroups.com> ] On > Behalf Of Amon Dempsey > Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 10:13 PM > To: texasems-l <mailto:texasems-l%40yahoogroups.com> > Subject: Re: New DSHS rule > > > > sounds like Texas trying to get a few more bucks... I guess this would be > like plumbers and electricians having thier license numbers on their > vehicles too. > > FieldMedic > Austin, Texas > > Be Warned, my opinions are my own. They do not express the views, protocols, > agendas or concerns of those for whom I work with or support. Once again, > the words contained herein are strictly of my own opinions. > > " There is no darkness like that of IGNORANCE " > > New DSHS rule > > OK, I would like to know what is behind the new rule to have the provider > license number displayed on the side of your ambulance. If anyone knows > who/what pushed this please enlighten us. > > Lee > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2008 Report Share Posted September 14, 2008 Our DSHS person actually warned us this was coming in early 2002, so we went ahead and put the numbers on the trucks then when we started the service and that has been continued since at Shackelford County. I also remember this being discussed in GETAC meetings almost 2 years ago, so providers were warned it was coming well in advance if they were paying attention. Jane Dinsmore To: texasems-l@...: wegandy1938@...: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 23:17:07 -0400Subject: Re: New DSHS rule Lee,This has been in the works for years. At Shackelford County we put the license number on the trucks at least three years ago in anticipation of this rule.The reason for the rule is so that the public will have a way to identify the owners of ambulances. As you know, with over 100 ambulance companies in Dallas County and over 200 in , there are zillions of ambulances running around with some version of " LifeCare or LifeMax or LifeLove or Mediflux, or Medilove, or MedSpeed, " and so forth on them. So it's protection for the public. However, I think they should also make these companies place the numbers under the ambulance also, so that you can read the number as you are being run over by the truck. <eg>GGIn a message dated 9/13/08 11:18:58 AM, L@... writes:> > OK, I would like to know what is behind the new rule to have the provider> license number displayed on the side of your ambulance. If anyone knows> who/what pushed this please enlighten us.> > Lee> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2008 Report Share Posted September 14, 2008 The state gets no money out of this. The only cost is having the stickers made and put on the boxes from whomever you want to make them. Jane Dinsmore To: texasems-l@...: fieldmedics@...: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 20:12:50 -0700Subject: Re: New DSHS rule sounds like Texas trying to get a few more bucks... I guess this would be like plumbers and electricians having thier license numbers on their vehicles too. FieldMedicAustin, Texas Be Warned, my opinions are my own. They do not express the views, protocols, agendas or concerns of those for whom I work with or support. Once again, the words contained herein are strictly of my own opinions. " There is no darkness like that of IGNORANCE " New DSHS ruleOK, I would like to know what is behind the new rule to have the providerlicense number displayed on the side of your ambulance. If anyone knowswho/what pushed this please enlighten us.Lee[Non-text portions of this message have been removed][Non-text portions of this message have been removed] _________________________________________________________________ Want to do more with Windows Live? Learn “10 hidden secrets” from . http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!550F68\ 1DAD532637!5295.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_domore_092008 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2008 Report Share Posted September 14, 2008 The state gets no money out of this. The only cost is having the stickers made and put on the boxes from whomever you want to make them. Jane Dinsmore To: texasems-l@...: fieldmedics@...: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 20:12:50 -0700Subject: Re: New DSHS rule sounds like Texas trying to get a few more bucks... I guess this would be like plumbers and electricians having thier license numbers on their vehicles too. FieldMedicAustin, Texas Be Warned, my opinions are my own. They do not express the views, protocols, agendas or concerns of those for whom I work with or support. Once again, the words contained herein are strictly of my own opinions. " There is no darkness like that of IGNORANCE " New DSHS ruleOK, I would like to know what is behind the new rule to have the providerlicense number displayed on the side of your ambulance. If anyone knowswho/what pushed this please enlighten us.Lee[Non-text portions of this message have been removed][Non-text portions of this message have been removed] _________________________________________________________________ Stay up to date on your PC, the Web, and your mobile phone with Windows Live. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093185mrt/direct/01/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2008 Report Share Posted September 14, 2008 Well heck, that problem is easy to fix. All your service has to do is follow the rule the way it is written in the first place, then it wouldn't be in violation, and be subjected to having to pay those fines. In that way, you could keep the state from making all that money off of your service. Thom Seeber, CCEMT-P CES Manager, Coastal Bend Operations American Medical Response Re: New DSHS rule , In my neck of the woods, the way the State would make money on such a policy is by enforcing fines and penalties if the lettering isn't to their exact measurements and standards. If the policy was for it to be in 2in tall stencil-style numbers and a company used 3in tall numbers in the same font as their logo, they'd be fined for every day the numbers were incorrect. The money-to-be-made is in the details and relentless enforcement of penalties. - Kristi Mr. or Ms. Field Medic, Please explain exactly how the state will manage to make any money off a rule making ambulances have the license number painted on them. I'm easily confused, so please explain. -- ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2008 Report Share Posted September 14, 2008 Sounds like those that do not want to comply or are gripping are afraid of actually being identified for wrong doings. This can only help our industry as a whole. If the state makes money from a fine then you have gladly opened up your check book for them. This is a simple rule of acknowledgment and tracking, which is something that this state absolutely needs. Stan Brandt CCEMT-P,CISM,FPC This message is confidential, intended only for the named recipient(s) and may contain information that is privileged or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient(s), you are notified that the dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you received this message in error, or are not the named recipient(s), please notify the sender and delete this e-mail from your computer. Subject: RE: New DSHS rule To: texasems-l Date: Saturday, September 13, 2008, 10:43 PM Exactly! Like they can read the license numbers on the big red truck at 60 miles an hour anyway. Lee From: texasems-l@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:texasems-l@yahoogro ups.com] On Behalf Of Amon Dempsey Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 10:13 PM To: texasems-l@yahoogro ups.com Subject: Re: New DSHS rule sounds like Texas trying to get a few more bucks... I guess this would be like plumbers and electricians having thier license numbers on their vehicles too. FieldMedic Austin, Texas Be Warned, my opinions are my own. They do not express the views, protocols, agendas or concerns of those for whom I work with or support. Once again, the words contained herein are strictly of my own opinions. " There is no darkness like that of IGNORANCE " New DSHS rule OK, I would like to know what is behind the new rule to have the provider license number displayed on the side of your ambulance. If anyone knows who/what pushed this please enlighten us. Lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2008 Report Share Posted September 14, 2008 What a novel concept follow the rule as written. Louis N. Molino, Sr. FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI LNMolino@... Sent via BlackBerry by AT & T Re: New DSHS rule , In my neck of the woods, the way the State would make money on such a policy is by enforcing fines and penalties if the lettering isn't to their exact measurements and standards. If the policy was for it to be in 2in tall stencil-style numbers and a company used 3in tall numbers in the same font as their logo, they'd be fined for every day the numbers were incorrect. The money-to-be-made is in the details and relentless enforcement of penalties. - Kristi Mr. or Ms. Field Medic, Please explain exactly how the state will manage to make any money off a rule making ambulances have the license number painted on them. I'm easily confused, so please explain. -- ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2008 Report Share Posted September 14, 2008 So do Doctors and Nurses now have to post there ID # visible for all? No. So why should we? I see no way that this improves patient care. I see no way that this actually improves EMS. I owned an Air conditioning contracting business for years. We were required to have our numbers posted. All it did was confuse customers and clutter the sides of our trucks. I had many people ask what the numbers meant. If they had wanted to file a complaint they had my name, address, etc that would have easily been enough for the board to locate me, and from what I have seen and heard is how most reports do come in. As someone said no one will remember the number of the ambulance that carried them in or zipped by them. > > > Subject: RE: New DSHS rule > To: texasems-l > Date: Saturday, September 13, 2008, 10:43 PM > > > > > > > Exactly! Like they can read the license numbers on the big red truck at 60 > miles an hour anyway. > > Lee > > From: texasems-l@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:texasems-l@yahoogro ups.com] On > Behalf Of Amon Dempsey > Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 10:13 PM > To: texasems-l@yahoogro ups.com > Subject: Re: New DSHS rule > > sounds like Texas trying to get a few more bucks... I guess this would be > like plumbers and electricians having thier license numbers on their > vehicles too. > > FieldMedic > Austin, Texas > > Be Warned, my opinions are my own. They do not express the views, protocols, > agendas or concerns of those for whom I work with or support. Once again, > the words contained herein are strictly of my own opinions. > > " There is no darkness like that of IGNORANCE " > > New DSHS rule > > OK, I would like to know what is behind the new rule to have the provider > license number displayed on the side of your ambulance. If anyone knows > who/what pushed this please enlighten us. > > Lee > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2008 Report Share Posted September 14, 2008 Ok, I said I was done but I can't shut up just yet! I want to pose a few questions based on the responses: 1. How is this new rule going to " strengthen our industry " ? 2. What exactly is a " Legitimate Service " ? 3. Are you saying that the 2 inch letters placed in some obscure location will be easier to identify that the big " ABC EMS Service " in gold leaf? 4. How many agencies spend thousands of dollars on custom paint schemes that probably don't really look right with this addition? I think it is way too funny that people are getting so spun up about the original question that I posed, which, BTW, has yet to be answered. Mr. Lee From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of Stan Brandt CCEMT-P Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2008 9:01 AM To: texasems-l Subject: RE: New DSHS rule Sounds like those that do not want to comply or are gripping are afraid of actually being identified for wrong doings. This can only help our industry as a whole. If the state makes money from a fine then you have gladly opened up your check book for them. This is a simple rule of acknowledgment and tracking, which is something that this state absolutely needs. Stan Brandt CCEMT-P,CISM,FPC This message is confidential, intended only for the named recipient(s) and may contain information that is privileged or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient(s), you are notified that the dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you received this message in error, or are not the named recipient(s), please notify the sender and delete this e-mail from your computer. From: Lee <L@... <mailto:L%40TechProServices.net> > Subject: RE: New DSHS rule To: texasems-l <mailto:texasems-l%40yahoogroups.com> Date: Saturday, September 13, 2008, 10:43 PM Exactly! Like they can read the license numbers on the big red truck at 60 miles an hour anyway. Lee From: texasems-l@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:texasems-l@yahoogro ups.com] On Behalf Of Amon Dempsey Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 10:13 PM To: texasems-l@yahoogro ups.com Subject: Re: New DSHS rule sounds like Texas trying to get a few more bucks... I guess this would be like plumbers and electricians having thier license numbers on their vehicles too. FieldMedic Austin, Texas Be Warned, my opinions are my own. They do not express the views, protocols, agendas or concerns of those for whom I work with or support. Once again, the words contained herein are strictly of my own opinions. " There is no darkness like that of IGNORANCE " New DSHS rule OK, I would like to know what is behind the new rule to have the provider license number displayed on the side of your ambulance. If anyone knows who/what pushed this please enlighten us. Lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2008 Report Share Posted September 14, 2008 I was under the impression that each ambulance had it's own identifying number already on it. The six 3 inch digits on the front and back called a " license plate " . Just my $.02. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2008 Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 Lee, One thing for sure is it will not hurt it. It will help us identify the fly by night services and will not hender or hurt those of us that make every attempt daily to do things right. I would be willing to bet if the numbers are there in at the specified height the state could care less what color or font is used. I think it is a good rule. By the way as you know, I don't always think everything the state does is good. Henry New DSHS rule OK, I would like to know what is behind the new rule to have the provider license number displayed on the side of your ambulance. If anyone knows who/what pushed this please enlighten us. Lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2008 Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 Good to see you posting Henry.? Hope the storm didn't take?too much of a toll on you, your family, your community, or your fishing. -Wes Ogilvie Re: New DSHS rule Lee, One thing for sure is it will not hurt it. It will help us identify the fly by night services and will not hender or hurt those of us that make every attempt daily to do things right. I would be willing to bet if the numbers are there in at the specified height the state could care less what color or font is used. I think it is a good rule. By the way as you know, I don't always think everything the state does is good. Henry New DSHS rule OK, I would like to know what is behind the new rule to have the provider license number displayed on the side of your ambulance. If anyone knows who/what pushed this please enlighten us. Lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2008 Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 Here in Calhoun County we were really lucky, the storm took a turn to the right. We had some wind and no rain. We were able to start recovering our ambulance transports the next day. We finished up last night around 6:30 thanks to Dudley and and the guys at the RMOC. We were very fortunate. I feel for the folks up the coast, I can only imagine what they went through and are dealing with now. We are in the planning process for a fishing trip for Dudley and . Henry New DSHS rule OK, I would like to know what is behind the new rule to have the provider license number displayed on the side of your ambulance. If anyone knows who/what pushed this please enlighten us. Lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2008 Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 Now Henry, I have NEVER had that impression of you! From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of Henry Barber Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 8:24 AM To: texasems-l Subject: Re: New DSHS rule Lee, One thing for sure is it will not hurt it. It will help us identify the fly by night services and will not hender or hurt those of us that make every attempt daily to do things right. I would be willing to bet if the numbers are there in at the specified height the state could care less what color or font is used. I think it is a good rule. By the way as you know, I don't always think everything the state does is good. Henry New DSHS rule OK, I would like to know what is behind the new rule to have the provider license number displayed on the side of your ambulance. If anyone knows who/what pushed this please enlighten us. Lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2008 Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 We have had infinite discussions and debates on how to promote our field as a true, legitimate medical profession. Now, not only are we licensed by those who also license tattoo artists and beauticians, we must also label our vehicles as those in the heating and plumbing trades do. Is it any wonder why we don't make progress? Most of the general public can't differentiate from one service to another, except by color of unit. If you show up in a dark blue uniform, some people especially children, think you are law enforcement. This is in spite of the fact that your uniform has patches and " FIREFIGHTER " or " PARAMEDIC " in big letters on the front. One has to question if the requirement will truly meet the intent of those drafting the rule. Lt. Steve Lemming, A.A.S., L.P. C-Shift EMS Administration Officer Azle, Texas Fire Department This e-mail is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual (s) to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of The City of Azle or its policies. If you have received this e-mail message in error, please phone Steve Lemming (817)444-7108. Please also destroy and delete the message from your computer. For more information on The City of Azle, visit our web site at: http://www.cityofazle.org <http://www.cityofazle.org> From: texasems-l [mailto:texasems-l ] On Behalf Of Lee Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2008 8:24 AM To: texasems-l Subject: RE: Re: New DSHS rule It simply appears to me to be another attempt at micromanaging something that isn't really an issue when there are things out there that truly effect patient care that no one seems to care about. About the only place I can see that this might have any positive purpose would be somewhere like county where new services are popping up every day. OK, now that I seemed to have pissed off the masses on something totally ridiculous I am done Mr. Lee From: texasems-l <mailto:texasems-l%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:texasems-l <mailto:texasems-l%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of simple_emt Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 11:51 PM To: texasems-l <mailto:texasems-l%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: New DSHS rule Mr. Lee, Like Mr. Gandy said, the reason is obvious. There are way too many private ambulances with similar or almost identical names, and a license number on the ambulance might make identifying them easier. As an example, I looked up ambulance companies in Texas and found these variations of common names. 5 Life Care (4 in the same city) 2 Life Star 3 Life Tech 2 Life Guard (Both in the Dallas area) 5 Life Line (3 in the same city) 2 Life Net 2 Life Saver 2 Life Time 2 Care First 2 Care Plus (Both in the same city) 3 Medic 1 or Medic One 16 other variations of Medic 5 Mercy (4 in the same city) 6 Star In other words, it isn't the big red truck we should be concerned about, and I have to wonder why this has your shorts in such a wad. Care to explain? -- > > Exactly! Like they can read the license numbers on the big red truck at 60 > miles an hour anyway. > > > > Lee > > > > From: texasems-l <mailto:texasems-l%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:texasems-l%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:texasems- l <mailto:l%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:l%40yahoogroups.com> ] On > Behalf Of Amon Dempsey > Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 10:13 PM > To: texasems-l <mailto:texasems-l%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:texasems-l%40yahoogroups.com> > Subject: Re: New DSHS rule > > > > sounds like Texas trying to get a few more bucks... I guess this would be > like plumbers and electricians having thier license numbers on their > vehicles too. > > FieldMedic > Austin, Texas > > Be Warned, my opinions are my own. They do not express the views, protocols, > agendas or concerns of those for whom I work with or support. Once again, > the words contained herein are strictly of my own opinions. > > " There is no darkness like that of IGNORANCE " > > New DSHS rule > > OK, I would like to know what is behind the new rule to have the provider > license number displayed on the side of your ambulance. If anyone knows > who/what pushed this please enlighten us. > > Lee > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.