Re: |)onna/ Arizona State legislature is blocking Westboro Baptist Chu!

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Only some very sick minds could come up with the idea to harass bereaved families at funerals, in my opinion. And to gloat over and celebrate the death of children that's just... well...I almost want to say inhuman, but then again, humans are obviously capable of some incredibly nasty things, history shows. But at least, something is just not right with someone who could do these things. Sorry to hear you are having panic attacks etc. I hope the meds will help/have helped! If you were any closer I'd invite you over for the dinner I am preparing for me and tonight. A nice curry with eggs among other things (I think the name in the cookbook was something like "Muttachar"), rice, bread, a nice South African red wine to go with it. Soft music playing. A fire. Well... you'll just have to imagine it I suppose. Feel better soon!love/Reb>> Good Morning /Reb, > > Now this may very well be my Swiss Cheesed Brain full of warts talking.... > > BUT... > > I seriously believe that the Good Old Wild Wild West.. should return.. just long enough to have a showdown at the O. K. Corral.. and thus end the terrorism that these people so readily provide... for people who don't deserve to be terrorized.. > > HUGS > |)onna... who seems to be having a breakdown of some sort.. > > > Re: Arizona State legislature is blocking Westboro Baptist Church! > > > > Good thing! Hopefully other states will follow. > > > Westboro Baptist Church really is doing every church everywhere a disservice by acting the way they do. Now, I am not so sure I'd see them as a church, they seem to me more of one incredibly dysfunctional family (they are, is my impression, all, or almost all, in some kind of family relation with the leader of the church). But church is what they call themselves, and thus how they are unfortunately viewed by many. > > > They are very well known in Sweden as well, since they celebrated the death of several hundred Swedes (including more than a hundred children) in the 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake and tsunami. That made many people very upset. They have also claimed to have picketed the Royal Castle in protest of the princesses choice of dresses for the Nobel Prize banquet (showed too much skin, apparently). But they either did that inside their own heads only, or they mistook some other place and building for the Royal Castle of Stockholm, Sweden, because they were never seen on, outside or near the castle, not even by the guards or secret service... > > > One unfortunate effect of this in Sweden is that by many people they are not only seen as "a church", but, since they are an American "church", as representative of American churches. And, needless to say, they don't exactly present a very positive image. This way they do American churches, and Americans, a great disservice abroad too. > > > love > /Reb>

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/Reb,

Actually, sick human minds aside, I was going to suggest.. that

umm.. and I do feel bad for saying this.. but.. as you

mentioned, it seems that "all" of this group of people seem to

be related.. I was going to mention this kind of thing happens

when brothers marry sisters and uncles marry nieces and so on

and so forth.. even animal breeders know better than to

"in-breed" their critters.. I didn't mean to be crass or

vulgar.. but this particular group are only "claiming" to be a

"church" for the tax incentives and such.. because they are

certainly NOT of ANY religion or following that I know of..

And somebody somewhere that I can't remember who or where, but

it has stuck with me since I heard it.. Something along the

nature of.. You can tell the type of people you are dealing

with, by the manner in which they handle their dead.. and that

is NOT the quote.. But the manner in which we treat our dead,

does speak volumes about our humanity (is that the word I'm

looking for?).. I can't imagine disrespecting anybody at anytime

they are laying to rest a loved one.. Even if I were to be

visiting my son's grave at the time some other family were

having their graveside ceremony.. I would have to stand solemnly

at my son's grave, until the other family were finished, before

I could continue a visit with my son..

And I would most definitely, if I were close enough, be one of

those persons that helped surround those ignorant beings to keep

them away from the grieving families..

I do have to say, that I've become a bit more aware of all the

"things" (for lack of a better word) involved with the death of

a loved one, since began working for at the funeral

home. I guess maybe more "attuned" to the families and their

emotional turmoil might be a better way to phrase it. Though

there are numerous families that pass through the funeral home,

and all of them mean something to me, but a few really really

touch my heart and soul, and I HAVE to do something "special"

for them.. I always run it by first, to make sure I'm not

out of line (haven't been yet).. and then send it on.. be it the

poem "He Only Took My Hand" (for the mother who lost a son) or

the special song Elena performed only by Nat "King" Cole,

that the lady's husband sang to her in their youth.. putting

that on a music CD to be played during their last goodbye.. and

then presented to her to take home following..

I just cannot, for the life of me, imagine being as heartless

and purposely to boot, as these people are.. Doesn't matter if I

don't agree with someone on their lifestyle or life partner

decisions or anything else for that matter.. when someone

passes, someone else is going to be completely devastated, and

that person is going to need love and support no matter what..

because they will not survive that devastation without someone

there to help them climb out of the deep dark hole in which that

loss is going to leave them.

But when I heard/read about this group's plans to disrupt the

funerals the animal instinct in me came out, and how I wished

that I could plant my person somewhere in the nearby vicinity of

them, and pick them off, one by one with a high powered rifle..

before they had a chance to carry out their evil spirited plan..

Yes, I guess right circumstances can turn even the most

easy-going person into what some would call a monster.. but had

that happened, I somehow doubt there would be many proclaiming

that the monsters that "took care of" the more monstrous

monsters was just as horrible as they were..

And now I'm off my soapbox.. and am sorry my tirade was soooo

very long..

And the panic attacks have stopped, thank goodness.. Only had to

suffer through two days of them.. two days too many.. but they

have stopped... though I must say that imagining the evening

with and yourself.. well.. that would have definitely been

and evening to enjoy and remember... And maybe, I will

eventually allow to put in the fireplace he'd so love to

have.. I would as well, except the common sense side of me

refuses to give in to the other side of me.. Common Sense side

saying.. if anything happens the insurance company will use that

self-installed fireplace as a reason to not pay the insurance

claim.. Wouldn't matter that it was installed in even more safe

a manner than what it would have been had it come as part of the

manufactured package.. they'd still use it as a reason for not

paying the claim.. (Even if it was a sinkhole or something that

sucked the place down underground.. somehow that fireplace would

be responsible.. LOL)..

HUGS

|)onna

Only some

very sick minds could come up with the idea to harass bereaved

families at funerals, in my opinion. And to gloat over and

celebrate the death of children that's just... well...I almost

want to say inhuman, but then again, humans are obviously

capable of some incredibly nasty things, history shows. But at

least, something is just not right with someone who could do

these things.

Sorry

to hear you are having panic attacks etc. I hope the meds will

help/have helped! If you were any closer I'd invite you over

for the dinner I am preparing for me and tonight. A nice

curry with eggs among other things (I think the name in the

cookbook was something like "Muttachar"), rice, bread, a nice

South African red wine to go with it. Soft music playing. A

fire. Well... you'll just have to imagine it I suppose. Feel

better soon!

love

/Reb

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some of the oldest graves found have flowers in them and the loved ones carefully put to rest - going the extra steps when a family is in grief means a lot - there is a grief certification through Gunderson - three areas I certified in 2002 - one of my last memories of my lady mother were showing her my class materials and we talked about it - we were from Beginning Experience - so we knew the grief process well

the next time I get the information I will post it God, grant me the strength of eagles wings, the faith and courage to fly to new heights, and the wisdom to rely on his spirit to carry me there.

To: MSersLife Sent: Sat, January 15, 2011 9:21:53 AMSubject: Re: Re: |)onna/ Arizona State legislature is blocking Westboro Baptist Chu!

/Reb,Actually, sick human minds aside, I was going to suggest.. that umm.. and I do feel bad for saying this.. but.. as you mentioned, it seems that "all" of this group of people seem to be related.. I was going to mention this kind of thing happens when brothers marry sisters and uncles marry nieces and so on and so forth.. even animal breeders know better than to "in-breed" their critters.. I didn't mean to be crass or vulgar.. but this particular group are only "claiming" to be a "church" for the tax incentives and such.. because they are certainly NOT of ANY religion or following that I know of.. And somebody somewhere that I can't remember who or where, but it has stuck with me since I heard it.. Something along the nature of.. You can tell the type of people you are dealing with, by the manner in which they handle their dead.. and that is NOT the quote.. But the manner in

which we treat our dead, does speak volumes about our humanity (is that the word I'm looking for?).. I can't imagine disrespecting anybody at anytime they are laying to rest a loved one.. Even if I were to be visiting my son's grave at the time some other family were having their graveside ceremony.. I would have to stand solemnly at my son's grave, until the other family were finished, before I could continue a visit with my son.. And I would most definitely, if I were close enough, be one of those persons that helped surround those ignorant beings to keep them away from the grieving families.. I do have to say, that I've become a bit more aware of all the "things" (for lack of a better word) involved with the death of a loved one, since began working for at the funeral home. I guess maybe more "attuned" to the families and their emotional turmoil might be a better way to phrase it. Though there are numerous families

that pass through the funeral home, and all of them mean something to me, but a few really really touch my heart and soul, and I HAVE to do something "special" for them.. I always run it by first, to make sure I'm not out of line (haven't been yet).. and then send it on.. be it the poem "He Only Took My Hand" (for the mother who lost a son) or the special song Elena performed only by Nat "King" Cole, that the lady's husband sang to her in their youth.. putting that on a music CD to be played during their last goodbye.. and then presented to her to take home following.. I just cannot, for the life of me, imagine being as heartless and purposely to boot, as these people are.. Doesn't matter if I don't agree with someone on their lifestyle or life partner decisions or anything else for that matter.. when someone passes, someone else is going to be completely devastated, and that person is going to need love and support no matter what..

because they will not survive that devastation without someone there to help them climb out of the deep dark hole in which that loss is going to leave them. But when I heard/read about this group's plans to disrupt the funerals the animal instinct in me came out, and how I wished that I could plant my person somewhere in the nearby vicinity of them, and pick them off, one by one with a high powered rifle.. before they had a chance to carry out their evil spirited plan.. Yes, I guess right circumstances can turn even the most easy-going person into what some would call a monster.. but had that happened, I somehow doubt there would be many proclaiming that the monsters that "took care of" the more monstrous monsters was just as horrible as they were..And now I'm off my soapbox.. and am sorry my tirade was soooo very long.. And the panic attacks have stopped, thank goodness.. Only had to suffer through two days of them.. two

days too many.. but they have stopped... though I must say that imagining the evening with and yourself.. well.. that would have definitely been and evening to enjoy and remember... And maybe, I will eventually allow to put in the fireplace he'd so love to have.. I would as well, except the common sense side of me refuses to give in to the other side of me.. Common Sense side saying.. if anything happens the insurance company will use that self-installed fireplace as a reason to not pay the insurance claim.. Wouldn't matter that it was installed in even more safe a manner than what it would have been had it come as part of the manufactured package.. they'd still use it as a reason for not paying the claim.. (Even if it was a sinkhole or something that sucked the place down underground.. somehow that fireplace would be responsible.. LOL)..HUGS|)onna Only some very sick minds could come up with the idea to harass bereaved families at funerals, in my opinion. And to gloat over and celebrate the death of children that's just... well...I almost want to say inhuman, but then again, humans are obviously capable of some incredibly nasty things, history shows. But at least, something is just not right with someone who could do these things.

Sorry to hear you are having panic attacks etc. I hope the meds will help/have helped! If you were any closer I'd invite you over for the dinner I am preparing for me and tonight. A nice curry with eggs among other things (I think the name in the cookbook was something like "Muttachar"), rice, bread, a nice South African red wine to go with it. Soft music playing. A fire. Well... you'll just have to imagine it I suppose. Feel better soon!

love

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