Re: Feeling like the worst mother!!!!

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I'm sorry Diane,Please hang in there. I can't tell you how many times I've felt like a terrible mother. We are all doing our dead level best with limited information and resources.Sent from my iPhone

Hi,

So my son for months has not been himself and I wasn't sure what it was. At first I thought it was his sinuses and then he had a problem with his teeth and all this time he has been anxious, irritable and taking my hands and pushing them into his head and I kept giving him ibuprofen and bendryl because I thought it would help. I kept telling his doctor that he can't live on ibuprofen for months because I was worried about his stomach. I took him to the neurologist and she said all the medicine I've been giving him has made him worse (bounce back headaches) and to stop giving him everything. He is finally having his wisdom teeth out this week but I feel terrible because now it is like he has to withdraw from the medicine and he's so uncomfortable. Just wanted to vent to some parents that would understand.

Thanks

Dianne

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I'm sorry Diane,Please hang in there. I can't tell you how many times I've felt like a terrible mother. Ditto. I think I feel that way daily. Hang in there.

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I second that...we are trying to make the best decisions with the limited resources we have,..if is nerve wracking..there were days I would look at my collection of meds/supps..crying trying to figure out which one he needed.. we do the best we can..and then when we know better we do better..that is all we can do..

you mean the best for your child that counts for something..and your child knows it ,in his spirit.

channa

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Saturday, October 1, 2011 10:51 AMSubject: Re: Feeling like the worst mother!!!!

I'm sorry Diane,

Please hang in there. I can't tell you how many times I've felt like a terrible mother. We are all doing our dead level best with limited information and resources.

Sent from my iPhone

Hi,So my son for months has not been himself and I wasn't sure what it was. At first I thought it was his sinuses and then he had a problem with his teeth and all this time he has been anxious, irritable and taking my hands and pushing them into his head and I kept giving him ibuprofen and bendryl because I thought it would help. I kept telling his doctor that he can't live on ibuprofen for months because I was worried about his stomach. I took him to the neurologist and she said all the medicine I've been giving him has made him worse (bounce back headaches) and to stop giving him everything. He is finally having his wisdom teeth out this week but I feel terrible because now it is like he has to withdraw from the medicine and he's so uncomfortable. Just wanted to vent to some parents that would understand.ThanksDianne

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So sorry to hear this. Been there..To comment on Ibuprofen, actually it is true that you should not use Ibuprofen for a long period, else your child could end up with gastric bleeding (side effect for prolonged use) and he will never be able to use this medication or other NSAID (lie aspirin, neproxen etc) for rest of his life.

With benadryl, many of us think that it calms down kids but the fact is there is a good chance that the kid can become hyperactive on it, so I avoid it. I have been recommended to use on flight but I stick to iPod.

I can't comment on bounce back headache.Hope things improve really fast./ Noel

 

Hi,

So my son for months has not been himself and I wasn't sure what it was. At first I thought it was his sinuses and then he had a problem with his teeth and all this time he has been anxious, irritable and taking my hands and pushing them into his head and I kept giving him ibuprofen and bendryl because I thought it would help. I kept telling his doctor that he can't live on ibuprofen for months because I was worried about his stomach. I took him to the neurologist and she said all the medicine I've been giving him has made him worse (bounce back headaches) and to stop giving him everything. He is finally having his wisdom teeth out this week but I feel terrible because now it is like he has to withdraw from the medicine and he's so uncomfortable. Just wanted to vent to some parents that would understand.

Thanks

Dianne

[Guest guest]

I use dye-free benedryl, b/c the colors can cause hyperactivity in some, and I use a smaller dose to prevent the paradoxical rxn.It works for us, might not work for others. I don't use benedryl often at all, though. Only for acute itchy symptoms.

 

So sorry to hear this. Been there..To comment on Ibuprofen, actually it is true that you should not use Ibuprofen for a long period, else your child could end up with gastric bleeding (side effect for prolonged use) and he will never be able to use this medication or other NSAID (lie aspirin, neproxen etc) for rest of his life.

With benadryl, many of us think that it calms down kids but the fact is there is a good chance that the kid can become hyperactive on it, so I avoid it. I have been recommended to use on flight but I stick to iPod.

I can't comment on bounce back headache.Hope things improve really fast./ Noel

 

Hi,

So my son for months has not been himself and I wasn't sure what it was. At first I thought it was his sinuses and then he had a problem with his teeth and all this time he has been anxious, irritable and taking my hands and pushing them into his head and I kept giving him ibuprofen and bendryl because I thought it would help. I kept telling his doctor that he can't live on ibuprofen for months because I was worried about his stomach. I took him to the neurologist and she said all the medicine I've been giving him has made him worse (bounce back headaches) and to stop giving him everything. He is finally having his wisdom teeth out this week but I feel terrible because now it is like he has to withdraw from the medicine and he's so uncomfortable. Just wanted to vent to some parents that would understand.

Thanks

Dianne

-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

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Thanks for that information. I was using it for four months, would I see blood in his stool do you know?

Thanks Dianne

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2011 9:26:58 AMSubject: Re: Feeling like the worst mother!!!!

I use dye-free benedryl, b/c the colors can cause hyperactivity in some, and I use a smaller dose to prevent the paradoxical rxn.It works for us, might not work for others. I don't use benedryl often at all, though. Only for acute itchy symptoms.

So sorry to hear this. Been there..

To comment on Ibuprofen, actually it is true that you should not use Ibuprofen for a long period, else your child could end up with gastric bleeding (side effect for prolonged use) and he will never be able to use this medication or other NSAID (lie aspirin, neproxen etc) for rest of his life.

With benadryl, many of us think that it calms down kids but the fact is there is a good chance that the kid can become hyperactive on it, so I avoid it. I have been recommended to use on flight but I stick to iPod.

I can't comment on bounce back headache.

Hope things improve really fast.

/ Noel

Hi,So my son for months has not been himself and I wasn't sure what it was. At first I thought it was his sinuses and then he had a problem with his teeth and all this time he has been anxious, irritable and taking my hands and pushing them into his head and I kept giving him ibuprofen and bendryl because I thought it would help. I kept telling his doctor that he can't live on ibuprofen for months because I was worried about his stomach. I took him to the neurologist and she said all the medicine I've been giving him has made him worse (bounce back headaches) and to stop giving him everything. He is finally having his wisdom teeth out this week but I feel terrible because now it is like he has to withdraw from the medicine and he's so uncomfortable. Just wanted to vent to some parents that would understand.ThanksDianne

-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

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This side effect of gastric bleeding won' t happen. It usually happen to people with prolonged use like years. But Noel is right, be cautious, always give the Ibuprofenright after meal. If you know that he's on a empty tummy, just give Acetaminophen,not as effective of Ibuprofen but will surely help even a little. I think it's alsoNoel who said Acetaminophen is better for fever than Motrin, which I second the motion.Ibuprofen is better for pain because of it's anti-inflammatory properties but neededto be given in full stomach and Acetaminophen is better for fever. Yes, people would see blood in the stool or sometimes coming out from the mouth.Don't be scared... these people are using it for many years.Give atleast theAcetaminophen every 4 hours if you think you need to withdraw the Ibuprofen.P.S. I always feel inspired when Dads are involved in our post. Take care. God bless you, MhelTo: mb12valtrex From: dlundgren5@...Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 13:58:03 +0000Subject: Re: Feeling like the worst mother!!!!

Thanks for that information. I was using it for four months, would I see blood in his stool do you know?

Thanks Dianne

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2011 9:26:58 AMSubject: Re: Feeling like the worst mother!!!!

I use dye-free benedryl, b/c the colors can cause hyperactivity in some, and I use a smaller dose to prevent the paradoxical rxn.It works for us, might not work for others. I don't use benedryl often at all, though. Only for acute itchy symptoms.

So sorry to hear this. Been there..

To comment on Ibuprofen, actually it is true that you should not use Ibuprofen for a long period, else your child could end up with gastric bleeding (side effect for prolonged use) and he will never be able to use this medication or other NSAID (lie aspirin, neproxen etc) for rest of his life.

With benadryl, many of us think that it calms down kids but the fact is there is a good chance that the kid can become hyperactive on it, so I avoid it. I have been recommended to use on flight but I stick to iPod.

I can't comment on bounce back headache.

Hope things improve really fast.

/ Noel

Hi,So my son for months has not been himself and I wasn't sure what it was. At first I thought it was his sinuses and then he had a problem with his teeth and all this time he has been anxious, irritable and taking my hands and pushing them into his head and I kept giving him ibuprofen and bendryl because I thought it would help. I kept telling his doctor that he can't live on ibuprofen for months because I was worried about his stomach. I took him to the neurologist and she said all the medicine I've been giving him has made him worse (bounce back headaches) and to stop giving him everything. He is finally having his wisdom teeth out this week but I feel terrible because now it is like he has to withdraw from the medicine and he's so uncomfortable. Just wanted to vent to some parents that would understand.ThanksDianne

-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

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> Noel who said Acetaminophen is better for fever than Motrin, which I second

the motion.

> Ibuprofen is better for pain because of it's anti-inflammatory properties but

needed

> to be given in full stomach and Acetaminophen is better for fever.

Acetaminophen is generally avoided in biomed because it depletes glutathione -

something our kids generally already have too little of. And doctors think it's

a great idea to tell parents to give their kids tylenol before they come in and

get their 6 vaccines.

Cheryl

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Yes, please avoid tylenol. Give it of course if you need to choose between death from fever and life, but I really think this is one thing thatcontributed to the problems we have. We (in this house) are not MMR regression people, but we are recovering tylenol junkies,

and flu shot/silver filling victims.

>

> Noel who said Acetaminophen is better for fever than Motrin, which I second the motion.

> Ibuprofen is better for pain because of it's anti-inflammatory properties but needed

> to be given in full stomach and Acetaminophen is better for fever.

Acetaminophen is generally avoided in biomed because it depletes glutathione - something our kids generally already have too little of. And doctors think it's a great idea to tell parents to give their kids tylenol before they come in and get their 6 vaccines.

Cheryl-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

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Thanks for the info. That's why I like this group.We are here for each other. I'll remember that. Sincerely, Mhel To: mb12valtrex From: bellbaby@...Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 17:11:22 -0400Subject: Re: Feeling like the worst mother!!!!

Yes, please avoid tylenol. Give it of course if you need to choose between death from fever and life, but I really think this is one thing thatcontributed to the problems we have. We (in this house) are not MMR regression people, but we are recovering tylenol junkies,

and flu shot/silver filling victims.

>

> Noel who said Acetaminophen is better for fever than Motrin, which I second the motion.

> Ibuprofen is better for pain because of it's anti-inflammatory properties but needed

> to be given in full stomach and Acetaminophen is better for fever.

Acetaminophen is generally avoided in biomed because it depletes glutathione - something our kids generally already have too little of. And doctors think it's a great idea to tell parents to give their kids tylenol before they come in and get their 6 vaccines.

Cheryl-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

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I am sorry but my brain is now hard-wired to connect Ulcerative colitis/IBD and autism (as some see gut symptoms in autism) I have used Neproxen almost every 2nd day for my excruciating migraine for about 6 months. When that led to gastric bleeding, I switched to Ibuprofen and migraine got worse by that time. I started taking 400mg Ibuprofen daily for almost 4 months and now I take any NSAID, within few hours, I bleed as if there is a serious injury in my intestine.

Having said that I can't say for sure how long it will take to see such side effect. Everyone reacts differently, plus it also depends on the condition of the gut. I am predisposed to this side effect due to my ulcerative colitis. The kids with gut issue 'should' (in theory) respond the way my body did. If I were you, I would not give any longer without talking to a medical practitioner you believe in.

By making your body sensitive to NSAIDs, you are blocking a whole set of medications which can be used to treat/control minor ailments. Now, I can not use NSAID for rest of my life and during my migraine attack, my pain is beyond any description. I can not keep taking steroids for such (medically) minor issue.

Hope I didn't rant but helped you understand the point./ Noel

 

Thanks for that information.  I was using it for four months, would I see blood in his stool do you know?

Thanks Dianne

 

To: mb12valtrex

Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2011 9:26:58 AMSubject: Re: Feeling like the worst mother!!!!

 

I use dye-free benedryl, b/c the colors can cause hyperactivity in some, and I use a smaller dose to prevent the paradoxical rxn.It works for us, might not work for others. I don't use benedryl often at all, though. Only for acute itchy symptoms.

 

So sorry to hear this. Been there..

To comment on Ibuprofen, actually it is true that you should not use Ibuprofen for a long period, else your child could end up with gastric bleeding (side effect for prolonged use) and he will never be able to use this medication or other NSAID (lie aspirin, neproxen etc) for rest of his life.

With benadryl, many of us think that it calms down kids but the fact is there is a good chance that the kid can become hyperactive on it, so I avoid it. I have been recommended to use on flight but I stick to iPod.

I can't comment on bounce back headache.

Hope things improve really fast.

/ Noel

 

Hi,So my son for months has not been himself and I wasn't sure what it was. At first I thought it was his sinuses and then he had a problem with his teeth and all this time he has been anxious, irritable and taking my hands and pushing them into his head and I kept giving him ibuprofen and bendryl because I thought it would help. I kept telling his doctor that he can't live on ibuprofen for months because I was worried about his stomach. I took him to the neurologist and she said all the medicine I've been giving him has made him worse (bounce back headaches) and to stop giving him everything. He is finally having his wisdom teeth out this week but I feel terrible because now it is like he has to withdraw from the medicine and he's so uncomfortable. Just wanted to vent to some parents that would understand.

ThanksDianne

-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

[Guest guest]

Thanks for that information. I was using it for four months, would I see blood in his stool do you know?Thanks DianneI believe the answer to that is yes, if he has gastric bleeding you would see it in his stool but I don't know for certain, never having been there. I think the other possibility is that the stool could be black or almost black from blood.Cheryl

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The issue is, what would give then?We don't use it till temp of 101F. We use wet towel and mostly it helps but a few times,it has happened that he had more than 101F and we gave him Acetaminophen.

ly, we (as a society) abuse OTC drugs and pain killers. Our most prescribed drug is a painkiller (http://www.webmd.com/news/20110420/the-10-most-prescribed-drugs) The reason could be either lack of education or doctors treating patients as their clients and not their patients.

/Noel

>

> Noel who said Acetaminophen is better for fever than Motrin, which I second the motion.

> Ibuprofen is better for pain because of it's anti-inflammatory properties but needed

> to be given in full stomach and Acetaminophen is better for fever.

Acetaminophen is generally avoided in biomed because it depletes glutathione - something our kids generally already have too little of. And doctors think it's a great idea to tell parents to give their kids tylenol before they come in and get their 6 vaccines.

Cheryl

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If you want an explanation on how it looks, little gross, in the beginning you will see red streaks on the stools. You could also see some mucus in the stools. Sometimes your son could poop only mucus and blood and no actual poop. He will feel bloated and will pass more gas than usual. If this gets ignored, stools will be loose/unformed/very mushy. He will complain stomach ache. The pain will be little below naval point (that is radiating pain from the large intestine)

I really hope you don't see any of this. The stomach pain is not controllable by any OTC pain medication./ Noel

 

Thanks for that information.  I was using it for four months, would I see blood in his stool do you know?Thanks Dianne

I believe the answer to that is yes, if he has gastric bleeding you would see it in his stool but I don't know for certain, never having been there. I think the other possibility is that the stool could be black or almost black from blood.

Cheryl

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I'm a little confused. I don't think I understand what you are asking. Are you unwilling to give motrin and you are looking for an alternative? What do you mean by to give then?Sure, you can give Tylenol but do remember that it depletes glutathione. If you plan to give it, maybe the best course of action is to give it and supplement glutathione and up the vitamin c? I dunno. Most people just avoid tylenol. In general, our kids aren't living on pain meds so taking an NSAID for the occasional pain or fever isn't going to result in bleeding.Motrin may not be the best fever reducer but fevers are rarely dangerous unless they spike quickly and cause febrile seizures. I stick my kids in the tub when they have a fever of 102 and give motrin. If a fever is getting scary high and you're terrified, I would say do what you need to do to 1. not be terrified 2. get the fever down. If that means tylenol, so be it. But how often is that really a concern for you?I think I'm just not sure where you're going and that's why I'm not sure how to answer. I want to be helpful but I feel like I'm not answering the right question.

~Antiviral Therapy 101~ gryffinstail.wordpress.com/ ~~ @Gryffins_Tail ~

The issue is, what would give then?We don't use it till temp of 101F. We use wet towel and mostly it helps but a few times,it has happened that he had more than 101F and we gave him Acetaminophen.

ly, we (as a society) abuse OTC drugs and pain killers. Our most prescribed drug is a painkiller (http://www.webmd.com/news/20110420/the-10-most-prescribed-drugs) The reason could be either lack of education or doctors treating patients as their clients and not their patients.

/Noel

>

> Noel who said Acetaminophen is better for fever than Motrin, which I second the motion.

> Ibuprofen is better for pain because of it's anti-inflammatory properties but needed

> to be given in full stomach and Acetaminophen is better for fever.

Acetaminophen is generally avoided in biomed because it depletes glutathione - something our kids generally already have too little of. And doctors think it's a great idea to tell parents to give their kids tylenol before they come in and get their 6 vaccines.

Cheryl

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I am sorry for not phrasing it correctly.I am looking for an alternative to Acetaminophen. My theory is, if you have fever, your body's immune response is already mounted on the infection, so in fact you should be 'happy' but as someone else said, if its life and death, what your alternative would be?

When my son has fever, he dislikes water. He doesn't even like wet towel, we forcibly put it on his forehead or wipe his body with wet towel. Hence I thought if there is any alternative to Acetaminophen.

So far, my son has had fever more than 101F only 3 times, Next time, I will follow your suggestion. Any preference for glutathione preparation?/ Noel

I'm a little confused. I don't think I understand what you are asking. Are you unwilling to give motrin and you are looking for an alternative? What do you mean by to give then?

Sure, you can give Tylenol but do remember that it depletes glutathione. If you plan to give it, maybe the best course of action is to give it and supplement glutathione and up the vitamin c? I dunno. Most people just avoid tylenol. In general, our kids aren't living on pain meds so taking an NSAID for the occasional pain or fever isn't going to result in bleeding.

Motrin may not be the best fever reducer but fevers are rarely dangerous unless they spike quickly and cause febrile seizures. I stick my kids in the tub when they have a fever of 102 and give motrin. If a fever is getting scary high and you're terrified, I would say do what you need to do to 1. not be terrified 2. get the fever down. If that means tylenol, so be it. But how often is that really a concern for you?

I think I'm just not sure where you're going and that's why I'm not sure how to answer. I want to be helpful but I feel like I'm not answering the right question.

~Antiviral Therapy 101~ gryffinstail.wordpress.com/ ~

~ @Gryffins_Tail ~

 

The issue is, what would give then?We don't use it till temp of 101F. We use wet towel and mostly it helps but a few times,it has happened that he had more than 101F and we gave him Acetaminophen.

ly, we (as a society) abuse OTC drugs and pain killers. Our most prescribed drug is a painkiller (http://www.webmd.com/news/20110420/the-10-most-prescribed-drugs) The reason could be either lack of education or doctors treating patients as their clients and not their patients.

/Noel

>

> Noel who said Acetaminophen is better for fever than Motrin, which I second the motion.

> Ibuprofen is better for pain because of it's anti-inflammatory properties but needed

> to be given in full stomach and Acetaminophen is better for fever.

Acetaminophen is generally avoided in biomed because it depletes glutathione - something our kids generally already have too little of. And doctors think it's a great idea to tell parents to give their kids tylenol before they come in and get their 6 vaccines.

Cheryl

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~Antiviral Therapy 101~ gryffinstail.wordpress.com/ ~~ @Gryffins_Tail ~

I am sorry for not phrasing it correctly.I am looking for an alternative to Acetaminophen. My theory is, if you have fever, your body's immune response is already mounted on the infection, so in fact you should be 'happy' but as someone else said, if its life and death, what your alternative would be?If it's life and death, you do what works and worry about the rest later. But a fever reaching 102 isn't really life or death. I know that, like someone else has mentioned, occlusion is supposedly helpful (using vicks and other remedies with feet wrapping with saran wrap or such). I dunno. Never tried it.

When my son has fever, he dislikes water. He doesn't even like wet towel, we forcibly put it on his forehead or wipe his body with wet towel. Hence I thought if there is any alternative to Acetaminophen.What about gel packs? I have a gel pack that I keep in the freezer for my back pain and it rocks fever. Worth a shot for a kid that doesn't want to be wet.

So far, my son has had fever more than 101F only 3 times, Next time, I will follow your suggestion. Any preference for glutathione preparation?I'm pretty sure you can get a good quality glutathione from any of the regular places (ourkidsasd.com, kirkmans, klair, lee silsby, etc.). You might even find some in your local HFS but I'm not sure. I'm honestly not even sure if supplementing it would be effective. I don't think it would hurt and it certainly follows a path of logic that if tylenol depletes it, then supplementing it while on tylenol should cover the depletion... I dunno. New territory. I've never considered an alternative to just not giving tylenol, LOL!CheryCheryl

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i will reply with my natural stuff:)

white willow bark is a natural fever reducer and ther is many homeopathic remedys for fever just look up fever and your kids specific symptoms..like beladonna is good for fever with no sweat...that is one i use one time.

channa

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I am sorry for not phrasing it correctly.

I am looking for an alternative to Acetaminophen. My theory is, if you have fever, your body's immune response is already mounted on the infection, so in fact you should be 'happy' but as someone else said, if its life and death, what your alternative would be?

If it's life and death, you do what works and worry about the rest later. But a fever reaching 102 isn't really life or death. I know that, like someone else has mentioned, occlusion is supposedly helpful (using vicks and other remedies with feet wrapping with saran wrap or such). I dunno. Never tried it.

When my son has fever, he dislikes water. He doesn't even like wet towel, we forcibly put it on his forehead or wipe his body with wet towel. Hence I thought if there is any alternative to Acetaminophen.

What about gel packs? I have a gel pack that I keep in the freezer for my back pain and it rocks fever. Worth a shot for a kid that doesn't want to be wet.

So far, my son has had fever more than 101F only 3 times, Next time, I will follow your suggestion. Any preference for glutathione preparation?

I'm pretty sure you can get a good quality glutathione from any of the regular places (ourkidsasd.com, kirkmans, klair, lee silsby, etc.). You might even find some in your local HFS but I'm not sure. I'm honestly not even sure if supplementing it would be effective. I don't think it would hurt and it certainly follows a path of logic that if tylenol depletes it, then supplementing it while on tylenol should cover the depletion... I dunno. New territory. I've never considered an alternative to just not giving tylenol, LOL!

Chery

Cheryl

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Cheryl,The way you help so many is amazing. We are lucky to have you as our fearless leader.Thanks,Marcia Hinds

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The vicks vaporub works even if you just slather the bottoms of the feet and cover with socks. Mentholatum works just as well. If you can't breathe well and need to sleep this crazy method will absolutely help Sent from my iPhonetComments within:

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I am sorry for not phrasing it correctly.I am looking for an alternative to Acetaminophen. My theory is, if you have fever, your body's immune response is already mounted on the infection, so in fact you should be 'happy' but as someone else said, if its life and death, what your alternative would be?If it's life and death, you do what works and worry about the rest later. But a fever reaching 102 isn't really life or death. I know that, like someone else has mentioned, occlusion is supposedly helpful (using vicks and other remedies with feet wrapping with saran wrap or such). I dunno. Never tried it.

When my son has fever, he dislikes water. He doesn't even like wet towel, we forcibly put it on his forehead or wipe his body with wet towel. Hence I thought if there is any alternative to Acetaminophen.What about gel packs? I have a gel pack that I keep in the freezer for my back pain and it rocks fever. Worth a shot for a kid that doesn't want to be wet.

So far, my son has had fever more than 101F only 3 times, Next time, I will follow your suggestion. Any preference for glutathione preparation?I'm pretty sure you can get a good quality glutathione from any of the regular places (ourkidsasd.com, kirkmans, klair, lee silsby, etc.). You might even find some in your local HFS but I'm not sure. I'm honestly not even sure if supplementing it would be effective. I don't think it would hurt and it certainly follows a path of logic that if tylenol depletes it, then supplementing it while on tylenol should cover the depletion... I dunno. New territory. I've never considered an alternative to just not giving tylenol, LOL!CheryCheryl

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Awww! You're too sweet! Now go write.

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Cheryl,The way you help so many is amazing. We are lucky to have you as our fearless leader.Thanks,Marcia Hinds

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At mouse house, we use Pau d' arco for fever. It has never failed me.

I try not to treat fevers unless they are very high or at night and I am

concerned it will go high while I am sleeping. My kids don't get acute

illnesses that much, so I like to let their immune system get a little

practice when they do get a cold.

Love and prayers,

Heidi N

I am looking for an alternative to Acetaminophen. My theory is, if you have

fever, your body's immune response is already mounted on the infection, so

in fact you should be 'happy' but as someone else said, if its life and

death, what your alternative would be?

[Guest guest]

I second the motion. We are so blessed. -MhelTo: mb12valtrex From: hindssite@...Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 04:23:31 -0700Subject: Re: Feeling like the worst mother!!!!

Cheryl,The way you help so many is amazing. We are lucky to have you as our fearless leader.Thanks,Marcia Hinds