Guest guest Posted October 1, 2011 Report Share Posted October 1, 2011 Hi everyone, I am going to ask a question which is probably not even directly related to the forum but I am stressed out and I trust all the experienced moms here more than my toddler's pediatrician. My daughter who is 2 1/2 yrs old, has been on prophylactic dose of trimethoprim(primsol) for vesicoureteral reflux(bladder reflux). I potty trained her in june and since then she always tries to avoid BM till she can. Most of the times her BMs have been alright and occasionally she complains of bones coming out but those are the days when she has not consumed liquids and has eaten more rice or potatoes. About 5 days ago, I started liquid vitamin D for her and she became constipated. She didn't have a BM for more than 48 hours and she said that now she doesn't want the bones to come out. Initially, with the help of vaseline and small amount of rectal liquid glycerin, she was able to have the BM but possibly sustained a small tear. I continued the vitamin D and her constipation got worse especially when I gave her 1000 IU. Last night she had a bigger tear and had bleeding. I looked up vitamin D and yes it does cause constipation if you don't supplement magnesium with it. Now today I again used the liquid recal glycerin and she had a painful huge bowel movement, no bleeding though. Her pediatrician is recommending miralax but I am not comfortable with that as even though they say it is harmless, some mothers reported regression in their children on spectrum and some of the NT kids developed autistic traits. I am wondering should I just try more conservative approach and continue with liquids and fruits and vegetables and use protective vaseline to heal it and then start supplementing florastor as I feel that even though she is on half dose of antibiotic, it has caused problems with her gut and she actually only gets a BM if she gets goat yogurt. I also give her culturelle for kids on and off but I gues antibiotic just kills it and Sacch. boulardi may be a better option. Please help me regarding the miralax or if someone has any other ideas to help my daughter. Thanks is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2011 Report Share Posted October 1, 2011 Hi is,Please give her high doses of magnesium citrate and VitC. They are very effective and very safe. Good LuckAyse Hi everyone, I am going to ask a question which is probably not even directly related to the forum but I am stressed out and I trust all the experienced moms here more than my toddler's pediatrician. My daughter who is 2 1/2 yrs old, has been on prophylactic dose of trimethoprim(primsol) for vesicoureteral reflux(bladder reflux). I potty trained her in june and since then she always tries to avoid BM till she can. Most of the times her BMs have been alright and occasionally she complains of bones coming out but those are the days when she has not consumed liquids and has eaten more rice or potatoes. About 5 days ago, I started liquid vitamin D for her and she became constipated. She didn't have a BM for more than 48 hours and she said that now she doesn't want the bones to come out. Initially, with the help of vaseline and small amount of rectal liquid glycerin, she was able to have the BM but possibly sustained a small tear. I continued the vitamin D and her constipation got worse especially when I gave her 1000 IU. Last night she had a bigger tear and had bleeding. I looked up vitamin D and yes it does cause constipation if you don't supplement magnesium with it. Now today I again used the liquid recal glycerin and she had a painful huge bowel movement, no bleeding though. Her pediatrician is recommending miralax but I am not comfortable with that as even though they say it is harmless, some mothers reported regression in their children on spectrum and some of the NT kids developed autistic traits. I am wondering should I just try more conservative approach and continue with liquids and fruits and vegetables and use protective vaseline to heal it and then start supplementing florastor as I feel that even though she is on half dose of antibiotic, it has caused problems with her gut and she actually only gets a BM if she gets goat yogurt. I also give her culturelle for kids on and off but I gues antibiotic just kills it and Sacch. boulardi may be a better option. Please help me regarding the miralax or if someone has any other ideas to help my daughter. Thanks is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2011 Report Share Posted October 1, 2011 You can also give aloe vera juice - they make some really good ones that just taste like water.I would not give miralax. There is yahoo group dedicated to the dangers of miralax. I would give ex-lax and dulcolax before I gave miralax. At least doctors aren't asking that you stay on ex lax forever.Give something now to help her poop and start supplementing magnesium and maybe add some aloe.You can also try oxypowder in the future for heavier needs - so you don't need to resort to ex lax again. ~Antiviral Therapy 101~ gryffinstail.wordpress.com/ ~~ @Gryffins_Tail ~ Hi everyone, I am going to ask a question which is probably not even directly related to the forum but I am stressed out and I trust all the experienced moms here more than my toddler's pediatrician. My daughter who is 2 1/2 yrs old, has been on prophylactic dose of trimethoprim(primsol) for vesicoureteral reflux(bladder reflux). I potty trained her in june and since then she always tries to avoid BM till she can. Most of the times her BMs have been alright and occasionally she complains of bones coming out but those are the days when she has not consumed liquids and has eaten more rice or potatoes. About 5 days ago, I started liquid vitamin D for her and she became constipated. She didn't have a BM for more than 48 hours and she said that now she doesn't want the bones to come out. Initially, with the help of vaseline and small amount of rectal liquid glycerin, she was able to have the BM but possibly sustained a small tear. I continued the vitamin D and her constipation got worse especially when I gave her 1000 IU. Last night she had a bigger tear and had bleeding. I looked up vitamin D and yes it does cause constipation if you don't supplement magnesium with it. Now today I again used the liquid recal glycerin and she had a painful huge bowel movement, no bleeding though. Her pediatrician is recommending miralax but I am not comfortable with that as even though they say it is harmless, some mothers reported regression in their children on spectrum and some of the NT kids developed autistic traits. I am wondering should I just try more conservative approach and continue with liquids and fruits and vegetables and use protective vaseline to heal it and then start supplementing florastor as I feel that even though she is on half dose of antibiotic, it has caused problems with her gut and she actually only gets a BM if she gets goat yogurt. I also give her culturelle for kids on and off but I gues antibiotic just kills it and Sacch. boulardi may be a better option. Please help me regarding the miralax or if someone has any other ideas to help my daughter. Thanks is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2011 Report Share Posted October 1, 2011 It sounds like the antibiotics have really done a number on her gut..what is the reason to have this kid on antibiotics? once she is off the antibiotics and you could try giving her the culturelle again..this time adult strength capsules as the childrens culturelle is only effective for infants..(this is from hearing form many many moms experieces on culturelle.) if vitamin d is exasperating the problem..i would cut back if not completely till you get this antbiotic stuff donne with. magnesium vitamin c is great stuff..but sounds like the antibiotics is trashing her gut. channa To: mb12valtrex Sent: Saturday, October 1, 2011 6:27 PMSubject: urgent help needed for my toddler(NT) with anal fissure Hi everyone,I am going to ask a question which is probably not even directly related to the forum but I am stressed out and I trust all the experienced moms here more than my toddler's pediatrician. My daughter who is 2 1/2 yrs old, has been on prophylactic dose of trimethoprim(primsol) for vesicoureteral reflux(bladder reflux). I potty trained her in june and since then she always tries to avoid BM till she can. Most of the times her BMs have been alright and occasionally she complains of bones coming out but those are the days when she has not consumed liquids and has eaten more rice or potatoes. About 5 days ago, I started liquid vitamin D for her and she became constipated. She didn't have a BM for more than 48 hours and she said that now she doesn't want the bones to come out. Initially, with the help of vaseline and small amount of rectal liquid glycerin, she was able to have the BM but possibly sustained a small tear. I continued the vitamin D and her constipation got worse especially when I gave her 1000 IU. Last night she had a bigger tear and had bleeding. I looked up vitamin D and yes it does cause constipation if you don't supplement magnesium with it. Now today I again used the liquid recal glycerin and she had a painful huge bowel movement, no bleeding though. Her pediatrician is recommending miralax but I am not comfortable with that as even though they say it is harmless, some mothers reported regression in their children on spectrum and some of the NT kids developed autistic traits. I am wondering should I just try more conservative approach and continue with liquids and fruits and vegetables and use protective vaseline to heal it and then start supplementing florastor as I feel that even though she is on half dose of antibiotic, it has caused problems with her gut and she actually only gets a BM if she gets goat yogurt. I also give her culturelle for kids on and off but I gues antibiotic just kills it and Sacch. boulardi may be a better option. Please help me regarding the miralax or if someone has any other ideas to help my daughter.Thanksis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2011 Report Share Posted October 1, 2011 and whatever you decide to give her (hopefully not mirilax) go slow and easy..you dont want to shock her system To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex >Sent: Saturday, October 1, 2011 7:22 PMSubject: Re: urgent help needed for my toddler(NT) with anal fissure It sounds like the antibiotics have really done a number on her gut..what is the reason to have this kid on antibiotics? once she is off the antibiotics and you could try giving her the culturelle again..this time adult strength capsules as the childrens culturelle is only effective for infants..(this is from hearing form many many moms experieces on culturelle.) if vitamin d is exasperating the problem..i would cut back if not completely till you get this antbiotic stuff donne with. magnesium vitamin c is great stuff..but sounds like the antibiotics is trashing her gut. channa To: mb12valtrex Sent: Saturday, October 1, 2011 6:27 PMSubject: urgent help needed for my toddler(NT) with anal fissure Hi everyone,I am going to ask a question which is probably not even directly related to the forum but I am stressed out and I trust all the experienced moms here more than my toddler's pediatrician. My daughter who is 2 1/2 yrs old, has been on prophylactic dose of trimethoprim(primsol) for vesicoureteral reflux(bladder reflux). I potty trained her in june and since then she always tries to avoid BM till she can. Most of the times her BMs have been alright and occasionally she complains of bones coming out but those are the days when she has not consumed liquids and has eaten more rice or potatoes. About 5 days ago, I started liquid vitamin D for her and she became constipated. She didn't have a BM for more than 48 hours and she said that now she doesn't want the bones to come out. Initially, with the help of vaseline and small amount of rectal liquid glycerin, she was able to have the BM but possibly sustained a small tear. I continued the vitamin D and her constipation got worse especially when I gave her 1000 IU. Last night she had a bigger tear and had bleeding. I looked up vitamin D and yes it does cause constipation if you don't supplement magnesium with it. Now today I again used the liquid recal glycerin and she had a painful huge bowel movement, no bleeding though. Her pediatrician is recommending miralax but I am not comfortable with that as even though they say it is harmless, some mothers reported regression in their children on spectrum and some of the NT kids developed autistic traits. I am wondering should I just try more conservative approach and continue with liquids and fruits and vegetables and use protective vaseline to heal it and then start supplementing florastor as I feel that even though she is on half dose of antibiotic, it has caused problems with her gut and she actually only gets a BM if she gets goat yogurt. I also give her culturelle for kids on and off but I gues antibiotic just kills it and Sacch. boulardi may be a better option. Please help me regarding the miralax or if someone has any other ideas to help my daughter.Thanksis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2011 Report Share Posted October 2, 2011 I am sorry, I haven't been following this whole thread so someone might have recommended it already, but there is a wonderful magnesium supplement that you can make. It is a drink- the kids love it, it provides magnesium (calming) and vitamin C, and keeps my gals very regular. " Natural Calm " brand is available at any health food store (and many grocery stores in our area). It has added stevia and a raspberry or lemon flavor, which I'm not excited about, but this makes it taste delicious. Thorne brand, available at Pharmaca (online if not a store near you- I am sure they are available from other stores as well) has a Magnesium Citrate powder as well, with no additives. We make this and add rice syrup for sweetener. Or just go with the tartness, which sometimes they like in its own right. So these supplements are powders. You add hot water to them, they bubble up (quite a bit), settle down, and then we add a little cool water so they are drinkable. You can use this supplement to 'bowel tolerance'. That means, you start with a dose (1/2 to 1tsp is a good place to start for a constipated 2.5 yr old), and increase gradually until loose stools come. Then back off a little for your daily dose. The magnesium and the Vitamin C both cause loose bowels. Some kids may have difficulty with Vit C. We have never had a problem with the C in these two supplements. Magnesium citrate is not the absolute best source of magnesium, because it is more of a bowel stimulant. The most ideal source of magnesium is apparently magnesium glycinate. We haven't tried this yet, just found out about it. Those two things being said, if the goal is to loosen bowels, the mag citrate with Vit C is a great supplement. On the bladder issues, our daughter Mia had significant bladder issues with continuous UTI's with High fever. We were headed down the path of testing for reflux with a specialist and going on antibiotics but I knew that would compromise Mia's other significant health issues. We were seeing a good Naturopath at the time (Dr. Wiancek in Vail, CO), and she recommended a supplement to support the bladder and treat for chronic infection/parasites. It was Thorne's Uristatin. It cleared up Mia's UTI's very quickly. We used it for a long time- I am guessing 18 months or so, I think I keep recalling? We are off of it now. Occasionally issues begin to creep up, but we are seeing they are related to oxaltes in our food. HAve you looked into trying a low oxalate diet? It is recommended even in mainstream medicine for people who suffer from Interstitial Cystitis (irriation of the bladder lining causing pain and the constant need to pee but with difficulty peeing). It is very effective in reducing bladder issues and many people on this list find it life saving for ASD symptoms as well. Have to run. Good Good luck!!! > > and whatever you decide to give her (hopefully not mirilax) go slow and easy..you dont want to shock her system > > > > ________________________________ > > To: " mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > > Sent: Saturday, October 1, 2011 7:22 PM > Subject: Re: urgent help needed for my toddler(NT) with anal fissure > > >  > It sounds like the antibiotics have really done a number on her gut..what is the reason to have this kid on antibiotics? once she is off the antibiotics and you could try giving her the culturelle again..this time adult strength capsules as the childrens culturelle is only effective for infants..(this is from hearing form many many moms experieces on culturelle.) > if vitamin d is exasperating the problem..i would cut back if not completely till you get this antbiotic stuff donne with. magnesium vitamin c is great stuff..but sounds like the antibiotics is trashing her gut. > channa > > > ________________________________ > > To: mb12valtrex > Sent: Saturday, October 1, 2011 6:27 PM > Subject: urgent help needed for my toddler(NT) with anal fissure > > >  > Hi everyone, > I am going to ask a question which is probably not even directly related to the forum but I am stressed out and I trust all the experienced moms here more than my toddler's pediatrician. My daughter who is 2 1/2 yrs old, has been on prophylactic dose of trimethoprim(primsol) for vesicoureteral reflux(bladder reflux). I potty trained her in june and since then she always tries to avoid BM till she can. Most of the times her BMs have been alright and occasionally she complains of bones coming out but those are the days when she has not consumed liquids and has eaten more rice or potatoes. About 5 days ago, I started liquid vitamin D for her and she became constipated. She didn't have a BM for more than 48 hours and she said that now she doesn't want the bones to come out. Initially, with the help of vaseline and small amount of rectal liquid glycerin, she was able to have the BM but possibly sustained a small tear. I continued the vitamin D and her > constipation got worse especially when I gave her 1000 IU. Last night she had a bigger tear and had bleeding. I looked up vitamin D and yes it does cause constipation if you don't supplement magnesium with it. Now today I again used the liquid recal glycerin and she had a painful huge bowel movement, no bleeding though. Her pediatrician is recommending miralax but I am not comfortable with that as even though they say it is harmless, some mothers reported regression in their children on spectrum and some of the NT kids developed autistic traits. I am wondering should I just try more conservative approach and continue with liquids and fruits and vegetables and use protective vaseline to heal it and then start supplementing florastor as I feel that even though she is on half dose of antibiotic, it has caused problems with her gut and she actually only gets a BM if she gets goat yogurt. I also give her culturelle for kids on and off but I gues antibiotic > just kills it and Sacch. boulardi may be a better option. Please help me regarding the miralax or if someone has any other ideas to help my daughter. > Thanks > is > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2011 Report Share Posted October 2, 2011 Ds had severe constipation with everything i gave. Large doses of vitamin c 5000mg would do very little, mag. Never did anything for him and even miralax (adult dose) would take several days to work. However i found that coconut water or if you can find it coconut kefir makes him go everyday no problem. He only gets a shot glass a day of either. The coconut kefir drink we use is kevita, in the fridge section on health food, nature store, or whole foods. and i get coconut water from publix. Hope this helps, it tooks us 2 years to find this out so i hope you find help quickly.Sent from my iPad I am sorry, I haven't been following this whole thread so someone might have recommended it already, but there is a wonderful magnesium supplement that you can make. It is a drink- the kids love it, it provides magnesium (calming) and vitamin C, and keeps my gals very regular. "Natural Calm" brand is available at any health food store (and many grocery stores in our area). It has added stevia and a raspberry or lemon flavor, which I'm not excited about, but this makes it taste delicious. Thorne brand, available at Pharmaca (online if not a store near you- I am sure they are available from other stores as well) has a Magnesium Citrate powder as well, with no additives. We make this and add rice syrup for sweetener. Or just go with the tartness, which sometimes they like in its own right. So these supplements are powders. You add hot water to them, they bubble up (quite a bit), settle down, and then we add a little cool water so they are drinkable. You can use this supplement to 'bowel tolerance'. That means, you start with a dose (1/2 to 1tsp is a good place to start for a constipated 2.5 yr old), and increase gradually until loose stools come. Then back off a little for your daily dose. The magnesium and the Vitamin C both cause loose bowels. Some kids may have difficulty with Vit C. We have never had a problem with the C in these two supplements. Magnesium citrate is not the absolute best source of magnesium, because it is more of a bowel stimulant. The most ideal source of magnesium is apparently magnesium glycinate. We haven't tried this yet, just found out about it. Those two things being said, if the goal is to loosen bowels, the mag citrate with Vit C is a great supplement. On the bladder issues, our daughter Mia had significant bladder issues with continuous UTI's with High fever. We were headed down the path of testing for reflux with a specialist and going on antibiotics but I knew that would compromise Mia's other significant health issues. We were seeing a good Naturopath at the time (Dr. Wiancek in Vail, CO), and she recommended a supplement to support the bladder and treat for chronic infection/parasites. It was Thorne's Uristatin. It cleared up Mia's UTI's very quickly. We used it for a long time- I am guessing 18 months or so, I think I keep recalling? We are off of it now. Occasionally issues begin to creep up, but we are seeing they are related to oxaltes in our food. HAve you looked into trying a low oxalate diet? It is recommended even in mainstream medicine for people who suffer from Interstitial Cystitis (irriation of the bladder lining causing pain and the constant need to pee but with difficulty peeing). It is very effective in reducing bladder issues and many people on this list find it life saving for ASD symptoms as well. Have to run. Good Good luck!!! > > and whatever you decide to give her (hopefully not mirilax) go slow and easy..you dont want to shock her system > > > > ________________________________ > > To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > > Sent: Saturday, October 1, 2011 7:22 PM > Subject: Re: urgent help needed for my toddler(NT) with anal fissure > > >  > It sounds like the antibiotics have really done a number on her gut..what is the reason to have this kid on antibiotics? once she is off the antibiotics and you could try giving her the culturelle again..this time adult strength capsules as the childrens culturelle is only effective for infants..(this is from hearing form many many moms experieces on culturelle.) > if vitamin d is exasperating the problem..i would cut back if not completely till you get this antbiotic stuff donne with. magnesium vitamin c is great stuff..but sounds like the antibiotics is trashing her gut. > channa > > > ________________________________ > > To: mb12valtrex > Sent: Saturday, October 1, 2011 6:27 PM > Subject: urgent help needed for my toddler(NT) with anal fissure > > >  > Hi everyone, > I am going to ask a question which is probably not even directly related to the forum but I am stressed out and I trust all the experienced moms here more than my toddler's pediatrician. My daughter who is 2 1/2 yrs old, has been on prophylactic dose of trimethoprim(primsol) for vesicoureteral reflux(bladder reflux). I potty trained her in june and since then she always tries to avoid BM till she can. Most of the times her BMs have been alright and occasionally she complains of bones coming out but those are the days when she has not consumed liquids and has eaten more rice or potatoes. About 5 days ago, I started liquid vitamin D for her and she became constipated. She didn't have a BM for more than 48 hours and she said that now she doesn't want the bones to come out. Initially, with the help of vaseline and small amount of rectal liquid glycerin, she was able to have the BM but possibly sustained a small tear. I continued the vitamin D and her > constipation got worse especially when I gave her 1000 IU. Last night she had a bigger tear and had bleeding. I looked up vitamin D and yes it does cause constipation if you don't supplement magnesium with it. Now today I again used the liquid recal glycerin and she had a painful huge bowel movement, no bleeding though. Her pediatrician is recommending miralax but I am not comfortable with that as even though they say it is harmless, some mothers reported regression in their children on spectrum and some of the NT kids developed autistic traits. I am wondering should I just try more conservative approach and continue with liquids and fruits and vegetables and use protective vaseline to heal it and then start supplementing florastor as I feel that even though she is on half dose of antibiotic, it has caused problems with her gut and she actually only gets a BM if she gets goat yogurt. I also give her culturelle for kids on and off but I gues antibiotic > just kills it and Sacch. boulardi may be a better option. Please help me regarding the miralax or if someone has any other ideas to help my daughter. > Thanks > is > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2011 Report Share Posted October 2, 2011 Thanks Sharon!I love your idea. Actually my daughter was drinking coconut water on and off in summer and at that time she did not have constipation. It contains some magnesium and other electrolytes. She has been refusing all types of drinks except for goat milk but I will try again. Thanks for your help. is > > > > > > and whatever you decide to give her (hopefully not mirilax) go slow and easy..you dont want to shock her system > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: Channa Brennon <channabrennon@> > > > To: " mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > > > > Sent: Saturday, October 1, 2011 7:22 PM > > > Subject: Re: urgent help needed for my toddler(NT) with anal fissure > > > > > > > > >  > > > It sounds like the antibiotics have really done a number on her gut..what is the reason to have this kid on antibiotics? once she is off the antibiotics and you could try giving her the culturelle again..this time adult strength capsules as the childrens culturelle is only effective for infants..(this is from hearing form many many moms experieces on culturelle.) > > > if vitamin d is exasperating the problem..i would cut back if not completely till you get this antbiotic stuff donne with. magnesium vitamin c is great stuff..but sounds like the antibiotics is trashing her gut. > > > channa > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: alexis_d3378 <alexis_d3378@> > > > To: mb12valtrex > > > Sent: Saturday, October 1, 2011 6:27 PM > > > Subject: urgent help needed for my toddler(NT) with anal fissure > > > > > > > > >  > > > Hi everyone, > > > I am going to ask a question which is probably not even directly related to the forum but I am stressed out and I trust all the experienced moms here more than my toddler's pediatrician. My daughter who is 2 1/2 yrs old, has been on prophylactic dose of trimethoprim(primsol) for vesicoureteral reflux(bladder reflux). I potty trained her in june and since then she always tries to avoid BM till she can. Most of the times her BMs have been alright and occasionally she complains of bones coming out but those are the days when she has not consumed liquids and has eaten more rice or potatoes. About 5 days ago, I started liquid vitamin D for her and she became constipated. She didn't have a BM for more than 48 hours and she said that now she doesn't want the bones to come out. Initially, with the help of vaseline and small amount of rectal liquid glycerin, she was able to have the BM but possibly sustained a small tear. I continued the vitamin D and her > > > constipation got worse especially when I gave her 1000 IU. Last night she had a bigger tear and had bleeding. I looked up vitamin D and yes it does cause constipation if you don't supplement magnesium with it. Now today I again used the liquid recal glycerin and she had a painful huge bowel movement, no bleeding though. Her pediatrician is recommending miralax but I am not comfortable with that as even though they say it is harmless, some mothers reported regression in their children on spectrum and some of the NT kids developed autistic traits. I am wondering should I just try more conservative approach and continue with liquids and fruits and vegetables and use protective vaseline to heal it and then start supplementing florastor as I feel that even though she is on half dose of antibiotic, it has caused problems with her gut and she actually only gets a BM if she gets goat yogurt. I also give her culturelle for kids on and off but I gues antibiotic > > > just kills it and Sacch. boulardi may be a better option. Please help me regarding the miralax or if someone has any other ideas to help my daughter. > > > Thanks > > > is > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2011 Report Share Posted October 2, 2011 Hi , Thanks for your help. I will start supplementing magnesium and vitamin c and see how it goes. This constipation tendency is new especially since she got potty trained. But now I added vitamin d without any magnesium and vitamin d depletes magnesium and thus can lead to constipation. I will try to get the right magnesium for her and start gradually and once she is regular, will add vitamin D. is > > > > and whatever you decide to give her (hopefully not mirilax) go slow and easy..you dont want to shock her system > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Channa Brennon <channabrennon@> > > To: " mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > > > Sent: Saturday, October 1, 2011 7:22 PM > > Subject: Re: urgent help needed for my toddler(NT) with anal fissure > > > > > >  > > It sounds like the antibiotics have really done a number on her gut..what is the reason to have this kid on antibiotics? once she is off the antibiotics and you could try giving her the culturelle again..this time adult strength capsules as the childrens culturelle is only effective for infants..(this is from hearing form many many moms experieces on culturelle.) > > if vitamin d is exasperating the problem..i would cut back if not completely till you get this antbiotic stuff donne with. magnesium vitamin c is great stuff..but sounds like the antibiotics is trashing her gut. > > channa > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: alexis_d3378 <alexis_d3378@> > > To: mb12valtrex > > Sent: Saturday, October 1, 2011 6:27 PM > > Subject: urgent help needed for my toddler(NT) with anal fissure > > > > > >  > > Hi everyone, > > I am going to ask a question which is probably not even directly related to the forum but I am stressed out and I trust all the experienced moms here more than my toddler's pediatrician. My daughter who is 2 1/2 yrs old, has been on prophylactic dose of trimethoprim(primsol) for vesicoureteral reflux(bladder reflux). I potty trained her in june and since then she always tries to avoid BM till she can. Most of the times her BMs have been alright and occasionally she complains of bones coming out but those are the days when she has not consumed liquids and has eaten more rice or potatoes. About 5 days ago, I started liquid vitamin D for her and she became constipated. She didn't have a BM for more than 48 hours and she said that now she doesn't want the bones to come out. Initially, with the help of vaseline and small amount of rectal liquid glycerin, she was able to have the BM but possibly sustained a small tear. I continued the vitamin D and her > > constipation got worse especially when I gave her 1000 IU. Last night she had a bigger tear and had bleeding. I looked up vitamin D and yes it does cause constipation if you don't supplement magnesium with it. Now today I again used the liquid recal glycerin and she had a painful huge bowel movement, no bleeding though. Her pediatrician is recommending miralax but I am not comfortable with that as even though they say it is harmless, some mothers reported regression in their children on spectrum and some of the NT kids developed autistic traits. I am wondering should I just try more conservative approach and continue with liquids and fruits and vegetables and use protective vaseline to heal it and then start supplementing florastor as I feel that even though she is on half dose of antibiotic, it has caused problems with her gut and she actually only gets a BM if she gets goat yogurt. I also give her culturelle for kids on and off but I gues antibiotic > > just kills it and Sacch. boulardi may be a better option. Please help me regarding the miralax or if someone has any other ideas to help my daughter. > > Thanks > > is > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2011 Report Share Posted October 3, 2011 I will butt in here to explain why this child might be on antibiotics. My daughter was born with the highest degree possible of vesicoureteral reflux and had to be on all sorts of daily antibiotics from the day she was born until after her vesicoureteral reimplantation surgery at 8 months old. Constipation is very dangerous for kids with vesicoureteral reflux. Holding poop causes holding pee, which is bad bad bad news when you have this condition; you get UTI's and are prescribed even stronger antibiotics, even IV antibiotics. By the way, thank you to all who responded to my recent " Constipation. Help! " post. My daughter is now on magnesium citrate, enzymes, and fish oil. We are doing much better. > > It sounds like the antibiotics have really done a number on her gut..what is the reason to have this kid on antibiotics? once she is off the antibiotics and you could try giving her the culturelle again..this time adult strength capsules as the childrens culturelle is only effective for infants..(this is from hearing form many many moms experieces on culturelle.) > if vitamin d is exasperating the problem..i would cut back if not completely till you get this antbiotic stuff donne with. magnesium vitamin c is great stuff..but sounds like the antibiotics is trashing her gut. > channa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2011 Report Share Posted October 3, 2011 You r right Mel! We opted for a conservative approach and that is the reason she is on prophylactic antibiotic. I will start magnesium citrate for her also. So far using whole grains and lots of fruits, liquids and goat yogurt have made the BMs better. As I mentioned before that the severe constipation that she had this week was a combination of her already affected bowels with starting vitamin D without magnesium. I wanted everyone who helped to know that she is feeling somewhat better now although the fissure has not healed completely yet and ironically now I am focusing on my daughter also who gets a little ignored because there is so much going on with her brother. Thanks is > > > > It sounds like the antibiotics have really done a number on her gut..what is the reason to have this kid on antibiotics? once she is off the antibiotics and you could try giving her the culturelle again..this time adult strength capsules as the childrens culturelle is only effective for infants..(this is from hearing form many many moms experieces on culturelle.) > > if vitamin d is exasperating the problem..i would cut back if not completely till you get this antbiotic stuff donne with. magnesium vitamin c is great stuff..but sounds like the antibiotics is trashing her gut. > > channa > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2011 Report Share Posted October 3, 2011 You can likely use Miralax short term. No more than a week. But, yes, Miralax is not what you want to use long term. Our children frequently have bowel/motility issues. Treatment for constipation include Milk of Magnesia, aloe vera juice, and Oxypowder. Pamela From: mb12valtrex [mailto:mb12valtrex ] On Behalf Of alexis_d3378Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2011 6:27 PMTo: mb12valtrex Subject: urgent help needed for my toddler(NT) with anal fissure Hi everyone,I am going to ask a question which is probably not even directly related to the forum but I am stressed out and I trust all the experienced moms here more than my toddler's pediatrician. My daughter who is 2 1/2 yrs old, has been on prophylactic dose of trimethoprim(primsol) for vesicoureteral reflux(bladder reflux). I potty trained her in june and since then she always tries to avoid BM till she can. Most of the times her BMs have been alright and occasionally she complains of bones coming out but those are the days when she has not consumed liquids and has eaten more rice or potatoes. About 5 days ago, I started liquid vitamin D for her and she became constipated. She didn't have a BM for more than 48 hours and she said that now she doesn't want the bones to come out. Initially, with the help of vaseline and small amount of rectal liquid glycerin, she was able to have the BM but possibly sustained a small tear. I continued the vitamin D and her constipation got worse especially when I gave her 1000 IU. Last night she had a bigger tear and had bleeding. I looked up vitamin D and yes it does cause constipation if you don't supplement magnesium with it. Now today I again used the liquid recal glycerin and she had a painful huge bowel movement, no bleeding though. Her pediatrician is recommending miralax but I am not comfortable with that as even though they say it is harmless, some mothers reported regression in their children on spectrum and some of the NT kids developed autistic traits. I am wondering should I just try more conservative approach and continue with liquids and fruits and vegetables and use protective vaseline to heal it and then start supplementing florastor as I feel that even though she is on half dose of antibiotic, it has caused problems with her gut and she actually only gets a BM if she gets goat yogurt. I also give her culturelle for kids on and off but I gues antibiotic just kills it and Sacch. boulardi may be a better option. Please help me regarding the miralax or if someone has any other ideas to help my daughter.Thanksis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2011 Report Share Posted October 3, 2011 Alternatives for constipation aloe vera juice, concord grape juice, prunes, psyllium husk, magnesium, prune juice.Aloe vera juice is especially good because it heals the gut and helps with constipation. Many of our kiddos are also low on magnesium. The other have all been helpful at one time or another. My son used to have such bad constipation that his BMs looked like tiny little black goat poop balls. We too were suggested Miralax by Pediatrician but opted for natural sources. Gave aloe vera juice and quickly discovered he had a tapeworm. That began another journey with parasite cleanses. He now has normal BMs as long as he gets an adequate amount of calcium/magnesium supplement. Hope that helps. Hi everyone, I am going to ask a question which is probably not even directly related to the forum but I am stressed out and I trust all the experienced moms here more than my toddler's pediatrician. My daughter who is 2 1/2 yrs old, has been on prophylactic dose of trimethoprim(primsol) for vesicoureteral reflux(bladder reflux). I potty trained her in june and since then she always tries to avoid BM till she can. Most of the times her BMs have been alright and occasionally she complains of bones coming out but those are the days when she has not consumed liquids and has eaten more rice or potatoes. About 5 days ago, I started liquid vitamin D for her and she became constipated. She didn't have a BM for more than 48 hours and she said that now she doesn't want the bones to come out. Initially, with the help of vaseline and small amount of rectal liquid glycerin, she was able to have the BM but possibly sustained a small tear. I continued the vitamin D and her constipation got worse especially when I gave her 1000 IU. Last night she had a bigger tear and had bleeding. I looked up vitamin D and yes it does cause constipation if you don't supplement magnesium with it. Now today I again used the liquid recal glycerin and she had a painful huge bowel movement, no bleeding though. Her pediatrician is recommending miralax but I am not comfortable with that as even though they say it is harmless, some mothers reported regression in their children on spectrum and some of the NT kids developed autistic traits. I am wondering should I just try more conservative approach and continue with liquids and fruits and vegetables and use protective vaseline to heal it and then start supplementing florastor as I feel that even though she is on half dose of antibiotic, it has caused problems with her gut and she actually only gets a BM if she gets goat yogurt. I also give her culturelle for kids on and off but I gues antibiotic just kills it and Sacch. boulardi may be a better option. Please help me regarding the miralax or if someone has any other ideas to help my daughter. Thanks is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2011 Report Share Posted October 3, 2011 Thanks ! How did you find tapeworm? I personally have a history of tapeworm when I was 7 yrs old which was never treated. I have stomach issues and dark circles and suffer from hard stools all the time even though I go regularly everyday but continue to have hard stools. Now my daughter is getting hard stools even though now she is going everyday. That is the reason why doctor recommended miralax atleast for temporary use to let the fissure heal. How did you confirm that your son had tapeworm and what treatment did you use? Would aloe vera juice help with softening the stool? Where can I find the aloe vera juice and is it safe to use in a 2 1/2 yr old? Thanks is > > > Hi everyone, > > I am going to ask a question which is probably not even directly > > related to the forum but I am stressed out and I trust all the > > experienced moms here more than my toddler's pediatrician. My > > daughter who is 2 1/2 yrs old, has been on prophylactic dose of > > trimethoprim(primsol) for vesicoureteral reflux(bladder reflux). I > > potty trained her in june and since then she always tries to avoid > > BM till she can. Most of the times her BMs have been alright and > > occasionally she complains of bones coming out but those are the > > days when she has not consumed liquids and has eaten more rice or > > potatoes. About 5 days ago, I started liquid vitamin D for her and > > she became constipated. She didn't have a BM for more than 48 hours > > and she said that now she doesn't want the bones to come out. > > Initially, with the help of vaseline and small amount of rectal > > liquid glycerin, she was able to have the BM but possibly sustained > > a small tear. I continued the vitamin D and her constipation got > > worse especially when I gave her 1000 IU. Last night she had a > > bigger tear and had bleeding. I looked up vitamin D and yes it does > > cause constipation if you don't supplement magnesium with it. Now > > today I again used the liquid recal glycerin and she had a painful > > huge bowel movement, no bleeding though. Her pediatrician is > > recommending miralax but I am not comfortable with that as even > > though they say it is harmless, some mothers reported regression in > > their children on spectrum and some of the NT kids developed > > autistic traits. I am wondering should I just try more conservative > > approach and continue with liquids and fruits and vegetables and use > > protective vaseline to heal it and then start supplementing > > florastor as I feel that even though she is on half dose of > > antibiotic, it has caused problems with her gut and she actually > > only gets a BM if she gets goat yogurt. I also give her culturelle > > for kids on and off but I gues antibiotic just kills it and Sacch. > > boulardi may be a better option. Please help me regarding the > > miralax or if someone has any other ideas to help my daughter. > > Thanks > > is > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 Aloe vera juice can be found at any health food store. Found the tapeworm after 1 day of giving aloe vera juice. Son had a BM of really stinky yellow diarrhea. Changed his diaper and 5 minutes later could smell it again. Checked the diaper again and found a piece of tapeworm segment in his diaper. Had tests done but never got confirmation. I've heard the tests catch a very small percentage of the worms out there. If you still have a tapeworm it probably has spread to your daughter. They are very easy to pick up, and very hard to get rid of. Aloe vera juice helped soften son's stools. He was 3 when I started giving him the aloe vera juice. Magnesium is a key point in keeping his BMs healthy. I used Paragone for Kids for 6 months. Found this in the health food store. 2 weeks on and 2 weeks off. Finally came out after 6 months of the 2 week rotations. I have also heard Humaworm is very good too. Have just received an order but haven't tried it yet. You can order that online, just do a search for humaworm.You may already know this but the tapeworms clamp on to the side of the intestines. They do not eat through their mouth, they absorb nutrients through the length of their body. They stun the intestines so they don't push the food through as fast. With fewer and weaker contractions they don't have to work so hard to hang on, the food passes by their bodies slower and they absorb more nutrients. You can eliminate virtually all of the worm, but if you don't get rid of the head it will continue to grow new segments. It is easy to pick up tapeworms. Your daughter could easily have one of these. Thanks ! How did you find tapeworm? I personally have a history of tapeworm when I was 7 yrs old which was never treated. I have stomach issues and dark circles and suffer from hard stools all the time even though I go regularly everyday but continue to have hard stools. Now my daughter is getting hard stools even though now she is going everyday. That is the reason why doctor recommended miralax atleast for temporary use to let the fissure heal. How did you confirm that your son had tapeworm and what treatment did you use? Would aloe vera juice help with softening the stool? Where can I find the aloe vera juice and is it safe to use in a 2 1/2 yr old? Thanks is > > > Hi everyone, > > I am going to ask a question which is probably not even directly > > related to the forum but I am stressed out and I trust all the > > experienced moms here more than my toddler's pediatrician. My > > daughter who is 2 1/2 yrs old, has been on prophylactic dose of > > trimethoprim(primsol) for vesicoureteral reflux(bladder reflux). I > > potty trained her in june and since then she always tries to avoid > > BM till she can. Most of the times her BMs have been alright and > > occasionally she complains of bones coming out but those are the > > days when she has not consumed liquids and has eaten more rice or > > potatoes. About 5 days ago, I started liquid vitamin D for her and > > she became constipated. She didn't have a BM for more than 48 hours > > and she said that now she doesn't want the bones to come out. > > Initially, with the help of vaseline and small amount of rectal > > liquid glycerin, she was able to have the BM but possibly sustained > > a small tear. I continued the vitamin D and her constipation got > > worse especially when I gave her 1000 IU. Last night she had a > > bigger tear and had bleeding. I looked up vitamin D and yes it does > > cause constipation if you don't supplement magnesium with it. Now > > today I again used the liquid recal glycerin and she had a painful > > huge bowel movement, no bleeding though. Her pediatrician is > > recommending miralax but I am not comfortable with that as even > > though they say it is harmless, some mothers reported regression in > > their children on spectrum and some of the NT kids developed > > autistic traits. I am wondering should I just try more conservative > > approach and continue with liquids and fruits and vegetables and use > > protective vaseline to heal it and then start supplementing > > florastor as I feel that even though she is on half dose of > > antibiotic, it has caused problems with her gut and she actually > > only gets a BM if she gets goat yogurt. I also give her culturelle > > for kids on and off but I gues antibiotic just kills it and Sacch. > > boulardi may be a better option. Please help me regarding the > > miralax or if someone has any other ideas to help my daughter. > > Thanks > > is > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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