Have officially lost faith

[Guest guest]

I have officially lost all faith in CPS.

The call was made Thursday to them. The kids' mother gets welfare, so has to

" work " part time at a salvation army type store. I guess she was at " work "

when CPS came by and grandma didn't hear them or didn't bother to answer the

door, so they left a freaking note on the door that they had been by to

investigate.

Nothing like giving a neglectful, potentially abusive parent some warning.

So, of course baby momma was on the phone with fiance all day yesterday

trying to figure out who did this to her, blah blah blah. Tells him, " Well

we've been busting our asses to clean up the house " blah blah blah. CPS

shows back up this morning, says house is ok, they have working electricity

& water and food in the house. Tell baby momma that she " has nothing to

worry about " that the claims are " unsubstantiated " but they will have to

follow up a few times before the case is closed.

Didn't bother to talk to the kids (who were asleep) or do any further

investigation on step daughter being made to stay up all night with step son

and then missing school; on the school absences due to neither adult in the

home being awake on time to get SD up and ready for school; the condition of

the kids (filthy, hair matted, etc); the animal abuse... none of that was

looked in to at all. Instead, now baby momma is validated that she is a

" good mother " (as she told fiance).

I am absolutely disgusted.

Because, as we all know too well... no parent who is neglectful or abusive

would have a clean-enough home or working electricity, water & food in the

house. No way! Only neglectful & abusive parents fail to provide those

things. Bull shit. From the mouth of my very own nada, " I never abused you.

You always had a roof over your head, clothes on your back & food in your

stomach. " Thank you, CPS, for confirming that that statement is particularly

TRUE in your eyes.

Such epic bull shit. Way to let my step kids down. No, their nada is no

where near as abusive as mine was, however, there are genuine concerns there

and now we are left feeling shit out of luck.

Now baby momma is on a vengeful streak to figure out who called. Told

fiance she's " got connections " and is going to have some friends or some

crap look into it once the case is closed to see if they can find out who

called. She shouldn't get anywhere since it was an anonymous phone call,

but you never know.

So very disgusted and disappointed in " the system " . It has failed my step

kids. Nothing was investigated but the shape of the house, which they were

given warning about & had time to start fixing. But the true concerns...

not a single one was looked into.

Mia

[Guest guest]

Mia,

Don't lose faith yet in justice though! If they are going to follow up on her,

and I've read your reports about her inability to keep a place clean or take

care of the kids, they will catch her on it sooner or later.

I didn't think CPS was supposed to leave a note for an unannounced visit like

that though. However, even if CPS caught her with a messy house, she would most

likely be given an opportunity to clean it up before the took the kids away for

good.

Hopefully CPS will catch her in the act, so to speak. And you just keep calling

in those anonymous calls when you see that things are wrong with the kids.

Stay strong,

>

> I have officially lost all faith in CPS.

>

> The call was made Thursday to them. The kids' mother gets welfare, so has to

> " work " part time at a salvation army type store. I guess she was at " work "

> when CPS came by and grandma didn't hear them or didn't bother to answer the

> door, so they left a freaking note on the door that they had been by to

> investigate.

>

> Nothing like giving a neglectful, potentially abusive parent some warning.

>

> So, of course baby momma was on the phone with fiance all day yesterday

> trying to figure out who did this to her, blah blah blah. Tells him, " Well

> we've been busting our asses to clean up the house " blah blah blah. CPS

> shows back up this morning, says house is ok, they have working electricity

> & water and food in the house. Tell baby momma that she " has nothing to

> worry about " that the claims are " unsubstantiated " but they will have to

> follow up a few times before the case is closed.

>

> Didn't bother to talk to the kids (who were asleep) or do any further

> investigation on step daughter being made to stay up all night with step son

> and then missing school; on the school absences due to neither adult in the

> home being awake on time to get SD up and ready for school; the condition of

> the kids (filthy, hair matted, etc); the animal abuse... none of that was

> looked in to at all. Instead, now baby momma is validated that she is a

> " good mother " (as she told fiance).

>

> I am absolutely disgusted.

>

> Because, as we all know too well... no parent who is neglectful or abusive

> would have a clean-enough home or working electricity, water & food in the

> house. No way! Only neglectful & abusive parents fail to provide those

> things. Bull shit. From the mouth of my very own nada, " I never abused you.

> You always had a roof over your head, clothes on your back & food in your

> stomach. " Thank you, CPS, for confirming that that statement is particularly

> TRUE in your eyes.

>

> Such epic bull shit. Way to let my step kids down. No, their nada is no

> where near as abusive as mine was, however, there are genuine concerns there

> and now we are left feeling shit out of luck.

>

> Now baby momma is on a vengeful streak to figure out who called. Told

> fiance she's " got connections " and is going to have some friends or some

> crap look into it once the case is closed to see if they can find out who

> called. She shouldn't get anywhere since it was an anonymous phone call,

> but you never know.

>

> So very disgusted and disappointed in " the system " . It has failed my step

> kids. Nothing was investigated but the shape of the house, which they were

> given warning about & had time to start fixing. But the true concerns...

> not a single one was looked into.

>

> Mia

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Mia,

I feel so angry at CPS! You're doing the right thing for the kids--but try

to stay strong, and I concur with . Hopefully CPS will catch her in

the act. They seem to have responded to the phone call quite quickly, at

least. They should at least talk with the kids before closing the case.

I wish so much that I could win a million dollars, just so you can get that

lawyer who specializes in tribal law sooner rather than later. I would get a

lawyer too so I could spend time with my siblings for the same reason.

Please keep plugging away--how blessed the kids are to have you and your

fiance in their lives!

Holly

> **

>

>

> Mia,

>

> Don't lose faith yet in justice though! If they are going to follow up on

> her, and I've read your reports about her inability to keep a place clean or

> take care of the kids, they will catch her on it sooner or later.

>

> I didn't think CPS was supposed to leave a note for an unannounced visit

> like that though. However, even if CPS caught her with a messy house, she

> would most likely be given an opportunity to clean it up before the took the

> kids away for good.

>

> Hopefully CPS will catch her in the act, so to speak. And you just keep

> calling in those anonymous calls when you see that things are wrong with the

> kids.

>

> Stay strong,

>

>

>

>

> >

> > I have officially lost all faith in CPS.

> >

> > The call was made Thursday to them. The kids' mother gets welfare, so has

> to

> > " work " part time at a salvation army type store. I guess she was at

> " work "

> > when CPS came by and grandma didn't hear them or didn't bother to answer

> the

> > door, so they left a freaking note on the door that they had been by to

> > investigate.

> >

> > Nothing like giving a neglectful, potentially abusive parent some

> warning.

> >

> > So, of course baby momma was on the phone with fiance all day yesterday

> > trying to figure out who did this to her, blah blah blah. Tells him,

> " Well

> > we've been busting our asses to clean up the house " blah blah blah. CPS

> > shows back up this morning, says house is ok, they have working

> electricity

> > & water and food in the house. Tell baby momma that she " has nothing to

> > worry about " that the claims are " unsubstantiated " but they will have to

> > follow up a few times before the case is closed.

> >

> > Didn't bother to talk to the kids (who were asleep) or do any further

> > investigation on step daughter being made to stay up all night with step

> son

> > and then missing school; on the school absences due to neither adult in

> the

> > home being awake on time to get SD up and ready for school; the condition

> of

> > the kids (filthy, hair matted, etc); the animal abuse... none of that was

> > looked in to at all. Instead, now baby momma is validated that she is a

> > " good mother " (as she told fiance).

> >

> > I am absolutely disgusted.

> >

> > Because, as we all know too well... no parent who is neglectful or

> abusive

> > would have a clean-enough home or working electricity, water & food in

> the

> > house. No way! Only neglectful & abusive parents fail to provide those

> > things. Bull shit. From the mouth of my very own nada, " I never abused

> you.

> > You always had a roof over your head, clothes on your back & food in your

> > stomach. " Thank you, CPS, for confirming that that statement is

> particularly

> > TRUE in your eyes.

> >

> > Such epic bull shit. Way to let my step kids down. No, their nada is no

> > where near as abusive as mine was, however, there are genuine concerns

> there

> > and now we are left feeling shit out of luck.

> >

> > Now baby momma is on a vengeful streak to figure out who called. Told

> > fiance she's " got connections " and is going to have some friends or some

> > crap look into it once the case is closed to see if they can find out who

> > called. She shouldn't get anywhere since it was an anonymous phone call,

> > but you never know.

> >

> > So very disgusted and disappointed in " the system " . It has failed my step

> > kids. Nothing was investigated but the shape of the house, which they

> were

> > given warning about & had time to start fixing. But the true concerns...

> > not a single one was looked into.

> >

> > Mia

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Thanks ladies. Their nada is likely to put up a front until the

investigation is closed. Then we'll be right back at square one. Still

very frustrated about the whole thing, and especially that damn note. In my

mind, it's akin to looking for a criminal, not finding him at home & leaving

a note that they're going to come arrest him another time. Come on, how

insane is that?

Mia

On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 3:35 PM, Holly Lipschultz <

hollymichellebyers@...> wrote:

> Mia,

>

> I feel so angry at CPS! You're doing the right thing for the kids--but try

> to stay strong, and I concur with . Hopefully CPS will catch her in

> the act. They seem to have responded to the phone call quite quickly, at

> least. They should at least talk with the kids before closing the case.

>

> I wish so much that I could win a million dollars, just so you can get

> that

> lawyer who specializes in tribal law sooner rather than later. I would get

> a

> lawyer too so I could spend time with my siblings for the same reason.

>

> Please keep plugging away--how blessed the kids are to have you and your

> fiance in their lives!

>

> Holly

>

> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 2:18 PM, afldancer

> wrote:

>

> > **

> >

> >

> > Mia,

> >

> > Don't lose faith yet in justice though! If they are going to follow up on

> > her, and I've read your reports about her inability to keep a place clean

> or

> > take care of the kids, they will catch her on it sooner or later.

> >

> > I didn't think CPS was supposed to leave a note for an unannounced visit

> > like that though. However, even if CPS caught her with a messy house, she

> > would most likely be given an opportunity to clean it up before the took

> the

> > kids away for good.

> >

> > Hopefully CPS will catch her in the act, so to speak. And you just keep

> > calling in those anonymous calls when you see that things are wrong with

> the

> > kids.

> >

> > Stay strong,

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > >

> > > I have officially lost all faith in CPS.

> > >

> > > The call was made Thursday to them. The kids' mother gets welfare, so

> has

> > to

> > > " work " part time at a salvation army type store. I guess she was at

> > " work "

> > > when CPS came by and grandma didn't hear them or didn't bother to

> answer

> > the

> > > door, so they left a freaking note on the door that they had been by to

> > > investigate.

> > >

> > > Nothing like giving a neglectful, potentially abusive parent some

> > warning.

> > >

> > > So, of course baby momma was on the phone with fiance all day yesterday

> > > trying to figure out who did this to her, blah blah blah. Tells him,

> > " Well

> > > we've been busting our asses to clean up the house " blah blah blah. CPS

> > > shows back up this morning, says house is ok, they have working

> > electricity

> > > & water and food in the house. Tell baby momma that she " has nothing to

> > > worry about " that the claims are " unsubstantiated " but they will have

> to

> > > follow up a few times before the case is closed.

> > >

> > > Didn't bother to talk to the kids (who were asleep) or do any further

> > > investigation on step daughter being made to stay up all night with

> step

> > son

> > > and then missing school; on the school absences due to neither adult in

> > the

> > > home being awake on time to get SD up and ready for school; the

> condition

> > of

> > > the kids (filthy, hair matted, etc); the animal abuse... none of that

> was

> > > looked in to at all. Instead, now baby momma is validated that she is a

> > > " good mother " (as she told fiance).

> > >

> > > I am absolutely disgusted.

> > >

> > > Because, as we all know too well... no parent who is neglectful or

> > abusive

> > > would have a clean-enough home or working electricity, water & food in

> > the

> > > house. No way! Only neglectful & abusive parents fail to provide those

> > > things. Bull shit. From the mouth of my very own nada, " I never abused

> > you.

> > > You always had a roof over your head, clothes on your back & food in

> your

> > > stomach. " Thank you, CPS, for confirming that that statement is

> > particularly

> > > TRUE in your eyes.

> > >

> > > Such epic bull shit. Way to let my step kids down. No, their nada is no

> > > where near as abusive as mine was, however, there are genuine concerns

> > there

> > > and now we are left feeling shit out of luck.

> > >

> > > Now baby momma is on a vengeful streak to figure out who called. Told

> > > fiance she's " got connections " and is going to have some friends or

> some

> > > crap look into it once the case is closed to see if they can find out

> who

> > > called. She shouldn't get anywhere since it was an anonymous phone

> call,

> > > but you never know.

> > >

> > > So very disgusted and disappointed in " the system " . It has failed my

> step

> > > kids. Nothing was investigated but the shape of the house, which they

> > were

> > > given warning about & had time to start fixing. But the true

> concerns...

> > > not a single one was looked into.

> > >

> > > Mia

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

It really does make one wonder about the concept of justice. I feel sure that

whatever time you do have with these children, you are making a positive impact

on their lives.

I hope you can take comfort in that.

-Annie

>

> I have officially lost all faith in CPS.

>

> The call was made Thursday to them. The kids' mother gets welfare, so has to

> " work " part time at a salvation army type store. I guess she was at " work "

> when CPS came by and grandma didn't hear them or didn't bother to answer the

> door, so they left a freaking note on the door that they had been by to

> investigate.

>

> Nothing like giving a neglectful, potentially abusive parent some warning.

>

> So, of course baby momma was on the phone with fiance all day yesterday

> trying to figure out who did this to her, blah blah blah. Tells him, " Well

> we've been busting our asses to clean up the house " blah blah blah. CPS

> shows back up this morning, says house is ok, they have working electricity

> & water and food in the house. Tell baby momma that she " has nothing to

> worry about " that the claims are " unsubstantiated " but they will have to

> follow up a few times before the case is closed.

>

> Didn't bother to talk to the kids (who were asleep) or do any further

> investigation on step daughter being made to stay up all night with step son

> and then missing school; on the school absences due to neither adult in the

> home being awake on time to get SD up and ready for school; the condition of

> the kids (filthy, hair matted, etc); the animal abuse... none of that was

> looked in to at all. Instead, now baby momma is validated that she is a

> " good mother " (as she told fiance).

>

> I am absolutely disgusted.

>

> Because, as we all know too well... no parent who is neglectful or abusive

> would have a clean-enough home or working electricity, water & food in the

> house. No way! Only neglectful & abusive parents fail to provide those

> things. Bull shit. From the mouth of my very own nada, " I never abused you.

> You always had a roof over your head, clothes on your back & food in your

> stomach. " Thank you, CPS, for confirming that that statement is particularly

> TRUE in your eyes.

>

> Such epic bull shit. Way to let my step kids down. No, their nada is no

> where near as abusive as mine was, however, there are genuine concerns there

> and now we are left feeling shit out of luck.

>

> Now baby momma is on a vengeful streak to figure out who called. Told

> fiance she's " got connections " and is going to have some friends or some

> crap look into it once the case is closed to see if they can find out who

> called. She shouldn't get anywhere since it was an anonymous phone call,

> but you never know.

>

> So very disgusted and disappointed in " the system " . It has failed my step

> kids. Nothing was investigated but the shape of the house, which they were

> given warning about & had time to start fixing. But the true concerns...

> not a single one was looked into.

>

> Mia

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I agree. Its an insane system.

-Annie

> > > >

> > > > I have officially lost all faith in CPS.

> > > >

> > > > The call was made Thursday to them. The kids' mother gets welfare, so

> > has

> > > to

> > > > " work " part time at a salvation army type store. I guess she was at

> > > " work "

> > > > when CPS came by and grandma didn't hear them or didn't bother to

> > answer

> > > the

> > > > door, so they left a freaking note on the door that they had been by to

> > > > investigate.

> > > >

> > > > Nothing like giving a neglectful, potentially abusive parent some

> > > warning.

> > > >

> > > > So, of course baby momma was on the phone with fiance all day yesterday

> > > > trying to figure out who did this to her, blah blah blah. Tells him,

> > > " Well

> > > > we've been busting our asses to clean up the house " blah blah blah. CPS

> > > > shows back up this morning, says house is ok, they have working

> > > electricity

> > > > & water and food in the house. Tell baby momma that she " has nothing to

> > > > worry about " that the claims are " unsubstantiated " but they will have

> > to

> > > > follow up a few times before the case is closed.

> > > >

> > > > Didn't bother to talk to the kids (who were asleep) or do any further

> > > > investigation on step daughter being made to stay up all night with

> > step

> > > son

> > > > and then missing school; on the school absences due to neither adult in

> > > the

> > > > home being awake on time to get SD up and ready for school; the

> > condition

> > > of

> > > > the kids (filthy, hair matted, etc); the animal abuse... none of that

> > was

> > > > looked in to at all. Instead, now baby momma is validated that she is a

> > > > " good mother " (as she told fiance).

> > > >

> > > > I am absolutely disgusted.

> > > >

> > > > Because, as we all know too well... no parent who is neglectful or

> > > abusive

> > > > would have a clean-enough home or working electricity, water & food in

> > > the

> > > > house. No way! Only neglectful & abusive parents fail to provide those

> > > > things. Bull shit. From the mouth of my very own nada, " I never abused

> > > you.

> > > > You always had a roof over your head, clothes on your back & food in

> > your

> > > > stomach. " Thank you, CPS, for confirming that that statement is

> > > particularly

> > > > TRUE in your eyes.

> > > >

> > > > Such epic bull shit. Way to let my step kids down. No, their nada is no

> > > > where near as abusive as mine was, however, there are genuine concerns

> > > there

> > > > and now we are left feeling shit out of luck.

> > > >

> > > > Now baby momma is on a vengeful streak to figure out who called. Told

> > > > fiance she's " got connections " and is going to have some friends or

> > some

> > > > crap look into it once the case is closed to see if they can find out

> > who

> > > > called. She shouldn't get anywhere since it was an anonymous phone

> > call,

> > > > but you never know.

> > > >

> > > > So very disgusted and disappointed in " the system " . It has failed my

> > step

> > > > kids. Nothing was investigated but the shape of the house, which they

> > > were

> > > > given warning about & had time to start fixing. But the true

> > concerns...

> > > > not a single one was looked into.

> > > >

> > > > Mia

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

I can completely empathize, I have been there.

But: you did the right thing. And they will follow up, probably with unannounced

visits. The house is getting cleaned because of you. They will NOT be the same,

because now they have had a wake up call. It might take multiple reports, and

the kids may be taken away and then returned, and then taken away again. The mom

has doubtless mentioned it to the kids, and now they know: someone out there

cares. Someone out there sees what is going on and knows it is wrong. They know

there are laws that the parents have to abide by. They know that when the

parents don't do right someone can see it and call some other people and then

things have to be done. It is probably quite a revelation to them. And I bet it

shook up the mom though she probably wouldn't admit it in a million years. I

know it hurts and I understand the intense frustration and bewilderment.

Can you call the school with your concerns about the stepdaughter and her

missing school due to staying up all night with a sibling. They are mandatory

reporters and they would have to file a report if I am not mistaken, at least,

someone in a guidance counselor position or something like that. The more

reports coming into CPS from different places the better. Don't give up. My

situation with my nephews is in stasis right now because they are being shored

up by my parents but the minute they leave this house all bets are off...my

brother makes a decent salary but 'forgets' to pay the power and water bill

sometimes...a wake up call like this would do he and his wife a tremendous

amount of good.

PLEASE call animal services in your county with complaints about the animal

abuse (this can be done anonymously). They will do their own report and the

animals will be removed from the property if abuse or neglect is obvious and can

be proven. It will take an animal agency to pursue the care of the animals

(because human-focused agencies are overwhelmed as it is) and it will be ONE

MORE THING, one more documented report that things are amiss in that house.

Whether it is a humane society or a branch of county services, they will have to

see the animals that you list as being there and determine the level of care..

then animal services themselves might be required by law report the conditions

of the children and house to the police also. DON'T GIVE UP, this is just the

beginning. Another benefit is they will go during the day and if the children

are filthy they will report it, it would be ideal if mom threw a fit at the

animal officers and they were forced to call the police because then the police

who are mandatory reporters as well would have to report to CPS what was going

on (or the kids might even be removed from the house that very moment, I have

seen this happen several times on COPs, when officers were called for something

unrelated). If you call animal control make sure you tell them about your

concern for the children as well as the animals so they will be forewarned...in

my county animal services is right next to the police station/sheriff's office

and the police run that part so they could be mandatory reporters themselves. As

far as I can tell even animal control officers are mandatory reporters in some

states but I don't know which ones. Here are mandatory reporters:

http://www.childwelfare.gov/systemwide/laws_policies/statutes/manda.cfm

Mandatory Reporters of Child Abuse and Neglect

Social workers

Teachers and other school personnel

Physicians and other health-care workers

Mental health professionals

Child care providers

Medical examiners or coroners

Law enforcement officers

I think as many mandatory reporters (this means that by law they HAVE to report

conditions that qualify as abuse or neglect that they see) that get sent out

that property the better, animal control and calling the school would definitely

be my next move...past a certain number of days missed by the little girl the

mother is going to be getting in legal trouble anyway.

>

> I have officially lost all faith in CPS.

>

> The call was made Thursday to them. The kids' mother gets welfare, so has to

> " work " part time at a salvation army type store. I guess she was at " work "

> when CPS came by and grandma didn't hear them or didn't bother to answer the

> door, so they left a freaking note on the door that they had been by to

> investigate.

>

> Nothing like giving a neglectful, potentially abusive parent some warning.

>

> So, of course baby momma was on the phone with fiance all day yesterday

> trying to figure out who did this to her, blah blah blah. Tells him, " Well

> we've been busting our asses to clean up the house " blah blah blah. CPS

> shows back up this morning, says house is ok, they have working electricity

> & water and food in the house. Tell baby momma that she " has nothing to

> worry about " that the claims are " unsubstantiated " but they will have to

> follow up a few times before the case is closed.

>

> Didn't bother to talk to the kids (who were asleep) or do any further

> investigation on step daughter being made to stay up all night with step son

> and then missing school; on the school absences due to neither adult in the

> home being awake on time to get SD up and ready for school; the condition of

> the kids (filthy, hair matted, etc); the animal abuse... none of that was

> looked in to at all. Instead, now baby momma is validated that she is a

> " good mother " (as she told fiance).

>

> I am absolutely disgusted.

>

> Because, as we all know too well... no parent who is neglectful or abusive

> would have a clean-enough home or working electricity, water & food in the

> house. No way! Only neglectful & abusive parents fail to provide those

> things. Bull shit. From the mouth of my very own nada, " I never abused you.

> You always had a roof over your head, clothes on your back & food in your

> stomach. " Thank you, CPS, for confirming that that statement is particularly

> TRUE in your eyes.

>

> Such epic bull shit. Way to let my step kids down. No, their nada is no

> where near as abusive as mine was, however, there are genuine concerns there

> and now we are left feeling shit out of luck.

>

> Now baby momma is on a vengeful streak to figure out who called. Told

> fiance she's " got connections " and is going to have some friends or some

> crap look into it once the case is closed to see if they can find out who

> called. She shouldn't get anywhere since it was an anonymous phone call,

> but you never know.

>

> So very disgusted and disappointed in " the system " . It has failed my step

> kids. Nothing was investigated but the shape of the house, which they were

> given warning about & had time to start fixing. But the true concerns...

> not a single one was looked into.

>

> Mia

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I hope you are right, but if this is a native American family living on tribal

land, then its very much like they are living in another country with its own

laws which can vary from regular US laws. Native American lands are under their

own jurisdiction; they can have their own police, tribal court system, etc.

But I agree with you that its important to keep trying. If these kids are being

neglected, parentified, or emotionally or physically abused, medically

neglected, kept out of school to suit the mother's purposes, etc., then its

important to keep trying.

-Annie

> >

> > I have officially lost all faith in CPS.

> >

> > The call was made Thursday to them. The kids' mother gets welfare, so has to

> > " work " part time at a salvation army type store. I guess she was at " work "

> > when CPS came by and grandma didn't hear them or didn't bother to answer the

> > door, so they left a freaking note on the door that they had been by to

> > investigate.

> >

> > Nothing like giving a neglectful, potentially abusive parent some warning.

> >

> > So, of course baby momma was on the phone with fiance all day yesterday

> > trying to figure out who did this to her, blah blah blah. Tells him, " Well

> > we've been busting our asses to clean up the house " blah blah blah. CPS

> > shows back up this morning, says house is ok, they have working electricity

> > & water and food in the house. Tell baby momma that she " has nothing to

> > worry about " that the claims are " unsubstantiated " but they will have to

> > follow up a few times before the case is closed.

> >

> > Didn't bother to talk to the kids (who were asleep) or do any further

> > investigation on step daughter being made to stay up all night with step son

> > and then missing school; on the school absences due to neither adult in the

> > home being awake on time to get SD up and ready for school; the condition of

> > the kids (filthy, hair matted, etc); the animal abuse... none of that was

> > looked in to at all. Instead, now baby momma is validated that she is a

> > " good mother " (as she told fiance).

> >

> > I am absolutely disgusted.

> >

> > Because, as we all know too well... no parent who is neglectful or abusive

> > would have a clean-enough home or working electricity, water & food in the

> > house. No way! Only neglectful & abusive parents fail to provide those

> > things. Bull shit. From the mouth of my very own nada, " I never abused you.

> > You always had a roof over your head, clothes on your back & food in your

> > stomach. " Thank you, CPS, for confirming that that statement is particularly

> > TRUE in your eyes.

> >

> > Such epic bull shit. Way to let my step kids down. No, their nada is no

> > where near as abusive as mine was, however, there are genuine concerns there

> > and now we are left feeling shit out of luck.

> >

> > Now baby momma is on a vengeful streak to figure out who called. Told

> > fiance she's " got connections " and is going to have some friends or some

> > crap look into it once the case is closed to see if they can find out who

> > called. She shouldn't get anywhere since it was an anonymous phone call,

> > but you never know.

> >

> > So very disgusted and disappointed in " the system " . It has failed my step

> > kids. Nothing was investigated but the shape of the house, which they were

> > given warning about & had time to start fixing. But the true concerns...

> > not a single one was looked into.

> >

> > Mia

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

They are not living on a reservation or any Native American lands. BUT if

dad goes to court for the kids, yes, then it does go to tribal court. At

this point, CPS can still intervene.

Mia

On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 6:25 PM, anuria67854 wrote:

>

>

> I hope you are right, but if this is a native American family living on

> tribal land, then its very much like they are living in another country with

> its own laws which can vary from regular US laws. Native American lands are

> under their own jurisdiction; they can have their own police, tribal court

> system, etc.

>

> But I agree with you that its important to keep trying. If these kids are

> being neglected, parentified, or emotionally or physically abused, medically

> neglected, kept out of school to suit the mother's purposes, etc., then its

> important to keep trying.

>

> -Annie

>

>

>

> > >

> > > I have officially lost all faith in CPS.

> > >

> > > The call was made Thursday to them. The kids' mother gets welfare, so

> has to

> > > " work " part time at a salvation army type store. I guess she was at

> " work "

> > > when CPS came by and grandma didn't hear them or didn't bother to

> answer the

> > > door, so they left a freaking note on the door that they had been by to

> > > investigate.

> > >

> > > Nothing like giving a neglectful, potentially abusive parent some

> warning.

> > >

> > > So, of course baby momma was on the phone with fiance all day yesterday

> > > trying to figure out who did this to her, blah blah blah. Tells him,

> " Well

> > > we've been busting our asses to clean up the house " blah blah blah. CPS

> > > shows back up this morning, says house is ok, they have working

> electricity

> > > & water and food in the house. Tell baby momma that she " has nothing to

> > > worry about " that the claims are " unsubstantiated " but they will have

> to

> > > follow up a few times before the case is closed.

> > >

> > > Didn't bother to talk to the kids (who were asleep) or do any further

> > > investigation on step daughter being made to stay up all night with

> step son

> > > and then missing school; on the school absences due to neither adult in

> the

> > > home being awake on time to get SD up and ready for school; the

> condition of

> > > the kids (filthy, hair matted, etc); the animal abuse... none of that

> was

> > > looked in to at all. Instead, now baby momma is validated that she is a

> > > " good mother " (as she told fiance).

> > >

> > > I am absolutely disgusted.

> > >

> > > Because, as we all know too well... no parent who is neglectful or

> abusive

> > > would have a clean-enough home or working electricity, water & food in

> the

> > > house. No way! Only neglectful & abusive parents fail to provide those

> > > things. Bull shit. From the mouth of my very own nada, " I never abused

> you.

> > > You always had a roof over your head, clothes on your back & food in

> your

> > > stomach. " Thank you, CPS, for confirming that that statement is

> particularly

> > > TRUE in your eyes.

> > >

> > > Such epic bull shit. Way to let my step kids down. No, their nada is no

> > > where near as abusive as mine was, however, there are genuine concerns

> there

> > > and now we are left feeling shit out of luck.

> > >

> > > Now baby momma is on a vengeful streak to figure out who called. Told

> > > fiance she's " got connections " and is going to have some friends or

> some

> > > crap look into it once the case is closed to see if they can find out

> who

> > > called. She shouldn't get anywhere since it was an anonymous phone

> call,

> > > but you never know.

> > >

> > > So very disgusted and disappointed in " the system " . It has failed my

> step

> > > kids. Nothing was investigated but the shape of the house, which they

> were

> > > given warning about & had time to start fixing. But the true

> concerns...

> > > not a single one was looked into.

> > >

> > > Mia

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

My understanding is that if CPS truly believes a report is unsubstantiated,

there are no follow-ups. HOPEFULLY the CPS worker said that to get the kids

mother to let her guard down so the follow-ups (without warning, let's

hope) will let them see what's really going on.

-- Have officially lost faith

I have officially lost all faith in CPS.

The call was made Thursday to them. The kids' mother gets welfare, so has to

" work " part time at a salvation army type store. I guess she was at " work "

when CPS came by and grandma didn't hear them or didn't bother to answer the

door, so they left a freaking note on the door that they had been by to

investigate.

Nothing like giving a neglectful, potentially abusive parent some warning.

So, of course baby momma was on the phone with fiance all day yesterday

trying to figure out who did this to her, blah blah blah. Tells him, " Well

we've been busting our asses to clean up the house " blah blah blah. CPS

shows back up this morning, says house is ok, they have working electricity

& water and food in the house. Tell baby momma that she " has nothing to

worry about " that the claims are " unsubstantiated " but they will have to

follow up a few times before the case is closed.

Didn't bother to talk to the kids (who were asleep) or do any further

investigation on step daughter being made to stay up all night with step son

and then missing school; on the school absences due to neither adult in the

home being awake on time to get SD up and ready for school; the condition of

the kids (filthy, hair matted, etc); the animal abuse... none of that was

looked in to at all. Instead, now baby momma is validated that she is a

" good mother " (as she told fiance).

I am absolutely disgusted.

Because, as we all know too well... no parent who is neglectful or abusive

would have a clean-enough home or working electricity, water & food in the

house. No way! Only neglectful & abusive parents fail to provide those

things. Bull shit. From the mouth of my very own nada, " I never abused you.

You always had a roof over your head, clothes on your back & food in your

stomach. " Thank you, CPS, for confirming that that statement is particularly

TRUE in your eyes.

Such epic bull shit. Way to let my step kids down. No, their nada is no

where near as abusive as mine was, however, there are genuine concerns there

and now we are left feeling shit out of luck.

Now baby momma is on a vengeful streak to figure out who called. Told

fiance she's " got connections " and is going to have some friends or some

crap look into it once the case is closed to see if they can find out who

called. She shouldn't get anywhere since it was an anonymous phone call,

but you never know.

So very disgusted and disappointed in " the system " . It has failed my step

kids. Nothing was investigated but the shape of the house, which they were

given warning about & had time to start fixing. But the true concerns...

not a single one was looked into.

Mia

[Guest guest]

I hope that's the case, but I'm not sure. I mean, they left a note on her

door that they were investigating her & coming back since she wasn't home at

the time of their visit. Grrr. I gotta let that go. I did what I could.

Now to just wait.

Mia

On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 9:44 PM, Middle Age Chick

wrote:

>

>

> My understanding is that if CPS truly believes a report is unsubstantiated,

> there are no follow-ups. HOPEFULLY the CPS worker said that to get the kids

> mother to let her guard down so the follow-ups (without warning, let's

> hope) will let them see what's really going on.

>

>

>

>

> -- Have officially lost faith

>

>

> I have officially lost all faith in CPS.

>

> The call was made Thursday to them. The kids' mother gets welfare, so has

> to

> " work " part time at a salvation army type store. I guess she was at " work "

> when CPS came by and grandma didn't hear them or didn't bother to answer

> the

> door, so they left a freaking note on the door that they had been by to

> investigate.

>

> Nothing like giving a neglectful, potentially abusive parent some warning.

>

> So, of course baby momma was on the phone with fiance all day yesterday

> trying to figure out who did this to her, blah blah blah. Tells him, " Well

> we've been busting our asses to clean up the house " blah blah blah. CPS

> shows back up this morning, says house is ok, they have working electricity

>

> & water and food in the house. Tell baby momma that she " has nothing to

> worry about " that the claims are " unsubstantiated " but they will have to

> follow up a few times before the case is closed.

>

> Didn't bother to talk to the kids (who were asleep) or do any further

> investigation on step daughter being made to stay up all night with step

> son

> and then missing school; on the school absences due to neither adult in the

>

> home being awake on time to get SD up and ready for school; the condition

> of

> the kids (filthy, hair matted, etc); the animal abuse... none of that was

> looked in to at all. Instead, now baby momma is validated that she is a

> " good mother " (as she told fiance).

>

> I am absolutely disgusted.

>

> Because, as we all know too well... no parent who is neglectful or abusive

> would have a clean-enough home or working electricity, water & food in the

> house. No way! Only neglectful & abusive parents fail to provide those

> things. Bull shit. From the mouth of my very own nada, " I never abused you.

>

> You always had a roof over your head, clothes on your back & food in your

> stomach. " Thank you, CPS, for confirming that that statement is

> particularly

> TRUE in your eyes.

>

> Such epic bull shit. Way to let my step kids down. No, their nada is no

> where near as abusive as mine was, however, there are genuine concerns

> there

> and now we are left feeling shit out of luck.

>

> Now baby momma is on a vengeful streak to figure out who called. Told

> fiance she's " got connections " and is going to have some friends or some

> crap look into it once the case is closed to see if they can find out who

> called. She shouldn't get anywhere since it was an anonymous phone call,

> but you never know.

>

> So very disgusted and disappointed in " the system " . It has failed my step

> kids. Nothing was investigated but the shape of the house, which they were

> given warning about & had time to start fixing. But the true concerns...

> not a single one was looked into.

>

> Mia

>

>

[Guest guest]

I agree that leaving the note is inexcusable!

-- Have officially lost faith

>

>

> I have officially lost all faith in CPS.

>

> The call was made Thursday to them. The kids' mother gets welfare, so has

> to

> " work " part time at a salvation army type store. I guess she was at " work "

> when CPS came by and grandma didn't hear them or didn't bother to answer

> the

> door, so they left a freaking note on the door that they had been by to

> investigate.

>

> Nothing like giving a neglectful, potentially abusive parent some warning.

>

> So, of course baby momma was on the phone with fiance all day yesterday

> trying to figure out who did this to her, blah blah blah. Tells him, " Well

> we've been busting our asses to clean up the house " blah blah blah. CPS

> shows back up this morning, says house is ok, they have working

electricity

>

> & water and food in the house. Tell baby momma that she " has nothing to

> worry about " that the claims are " unsubstantiated " but they will have to

> follow up a few times before the case is closed.

>

> Didn't bother to talk to the kids (who were asleep) or do any further

> investigation on step daughter being made to stay up all night with step

> son

> and then missing school; on the school absences due to neither adult in

the

>

> home being awake on time to get SD up and ready for school; the condition

> of

> the kids (filthy, hair matted, etc); the animal abuse... none of that was

> looked in to at all. Instead, now baby momma is validated that she is a

> " good mother " (as she told fiance).

>

> I am absolutely disgusted.

>

> Because, as we all know too well... no parent who is neglectful or abusive

> would have a clean-enough home or working electricity, water & food in the

> house. No way! Only neglectful & abusive parents fail to provide those

> things. Bull shit. From the mouth of my very own nada, " I never abused you

>

> You always had a roof over your head, clothes on your back & food in your

> stomach. " Thank you, CPS, for confirming that that statement is

> particularly

> TRUE in your eyes.

>

> Such epic bull shit. Way to let my step kids down. No, their nada is no

> where near as abusive as mine was, however, there are genuine concerns

> there

> and now we are left feeling shit out of luck.

>

> Now baby momma is on a vengeful streak to figure out who called. Told

> fiance she's " got connections " and is going to have some friends or some

> crap look into it once the case is closed to see if they can find out who

> called. She shouldn't get anywhere since it was an anonymous phone call,

> but you never know.

>

> So very disgusted and disappointed in " the system " . It has failed my step

> kids. Nothing was investigated but the shape of the house, which they were

> given warning about & had time to start fixing. But the true concerns...

> not a single one was looked into.

>

> Mia

>

>

[Guest guest]

That sounds more encouraging, then. I hope that will work in your favor.

-Annie

> > > >

> > > > I have officially lost all faith in CPS.

> > > >

> > > > The call was made Thursday to them. The kids' mother gets welfare, so

> > has to

> > > > " work " part time at a salvation army type store. I guess she was at

> > " work "

> > > > when CPS came by and grandma didn't hear them or didn't bother to

> > answer the

> > > > door, so they left a freaking note on the door that they had been by to

> > > > investigate.

> > > >

> > > > Nothing like giving a neglectful, potentially abusive parent some

> > warning.

> > > >

> > > > So, of course baby momma was on the phone with fiance all day yesterday

> > > > trying to figure out who did this to her, blah blah blah. Tells him,

> > " Well

> > > > we've been busting our asses to clean up the house " blah blah blah. CPS

> > > > shows back up this morning, says house is ok, they have working

> > electricity

> > > > & water and food in the house. Tell baby momma that she " has nothing to

> > > > worry about " that the claims are " unsubstantiated " but they will have

> > to

> > > > follow up a few times before the case is closed.

> > > >

> > > > Didn't bother to talk to the kids (who were asleep) or do any further

> > > > investigation on step daughter being made to stay up all night with

> > step son

> > > > and then missing school; on the school absences due to neither adult in

> > the

> > > > home being awake on time to get SD up and ready for school; the

> > condition of

> > > > the kids (filthy, hair matted, etc); the animal abuse... none of that

> > was

> > > > looked in to at all. Instead, now baby momma is validated that she is a

> > > > " good mother " (as she told fiance).

> > > >

> > > > I am absolutely disgusted.

> > > >

> > > > Because, as we all know too well... no parent who is neglectful or

> > abusive

> > > > would have a clean-enough home or working electricity, water & food in

> > the

> > > > house. No way! Only neglectful & abusive parents fail to provide those

> > > > things. Bull shit. From the mouth of my very own nada, " I never abused

> > you.

> > > > You always had a roof over your head, clothes on your back & food in

> > your

> > > > stomach. " Thank you, CPS, for confirming that that statement is

> > particularly

> > > > TRUE in your eyes.

> > > >

> > > > Such epic bull shit. Way to let my step kids down. No, their nada is no

> > > > where near as abusive as mine was, however, there are genuine concerns

> > there

> > > > and now we are left feeling shit out of luck.

> > > >

> > > > Now baby momma is on a vengeful streak to figure out who called. Told

> > > > fiance she's " got connections " and is going to have some friends or

> > some

> > > > crap look into it once the case is closed to see if they can find out

> > who

> > > > called. She shouldn't get anywhere since it was an anonymous phone

> > call,

> > > > but you never know.

> > > >

> > > > So very disgusted and disappointed in " the system " . It has failed my

> > step

> > > > kids. Nothing was investigated but the shape of the house, which they

> > were

> > > > given warning about & had time to start fixing. But the true

> > concerns...

> > > > not a single one was looked into.

> > > >

> > > > Mia

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Letting go and knowing that you did what you could is all you've got, so hold on

to that. Not sure who mentioned it, but you did the right thing in creating the

paper trail. And if more folks add to that trail (like the school someone

mentioned), the stronger the case against the abuser is.

I totally understand where you are coming from about losing faith. I worked at

a DV shelter for a few years and it was always difficult to see our efforts go

unnoticed by the state.

At the same time, I have been able to see it from their side as well.

Caseworkers are incredibly overworked. On average, they have about 2x the

caseload they should have. In my state, it's 3x. Being that overloaded causes

them to only look for the basics: food, clothing and shelter. All the other

things that are really important get cast aside as something that can be dealt

with by someone else (mainly us non-state social workers). It is a very

frustrating system that needs to be reworked a bit for it to function properly.

For now, we can be thankful at least something is there.

Keep ticking away at it - you'll get somewhere eventually. And yes, the kiddos

are lucky to have any positive role models in their life (which I'm assuming is

you)!

>

> >

> >

> > My understanding is that if CPS truly believes a report is unsubstantiated,

> > there are no follow-ups. HOPEFULLY the CPS worker said that to get the kids

> > mother to let her guard down so the follow-ups (without warning, let's

> > hope) will let them see what's really going on.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > -- Have officially lost faith

> >

> >

> > I have officially lost all faith in CPS.

> >

> > The call was made Thursday to them. The kids' mother gets welfare, so has

> > to

> > " work " part time at a salvation army type store. I guess she was at " work "

> > when CPS came by and grandma didn't hear them or didn't bother to answer

> > the

> > door, so they left a freaking note on the door that they had been by to

> > investigate.

> >

> > Nothing like giving a neglectful, potentially abusive parent some warning.

> >

> > So, of course baby momma was on the phone with fiance all day yesterday

> > trying to figure out who did this to her, blah blah blah. Tells him, " Well

> > we've been busting our asses to clean up the house " blah blah blah. CPS

> > shows back up this morning, says house is ok, they have working electricity

> >

> > & water and food in the house. Tell baby momma that she " has nothing to

> > worry about " that the claims are " unsubstantiated " but they will have to

> > follow up a few times before the case is closed.

> >

> > Didn't bother to talk to the kids (who were asleep) or do any further

> > investigation on step daughter being made to stay up all night with step

> > son

> > and then missing school; on the school absences due to neither adult in the

> >

> > home being awake on time to get SD up and ready for school; the condition

> > of

> > the kids (filthy, hair matted, etc); the animal abuse... none of that was

> > looked in to at all. Instead, now baby momma is validated that she is a

> > " good mother " (as she told fiance).

> >

> > I am absolutely disgusted.

> >

> > Because, as we all know too well... no parent who is neglectful or abusive

> > would have a clean-enough home or working electricity, water & food in the

> > house. No way! Only neglectful & abusive parents fail to provide those

> > things. Bull shit. From the mouth of my very own nada, " I never abused you.

> >

> > You always had a roof over your head, clothes on your back & food in your

> > stomach. " Thank you, CPS, for confirming that that statement is

> > particularly

> > TRUE in your eyes.

> >

> > Such epic bull shit. Way to let my step kids down. No, their nada is no

> > where near as abusive as mine was, however, there are genuine concerns

> > there

> > and now we are left feeling shit out of luck.

> >

> > Now baby momma is on a vengeful streak to figure out who called. Told

> > fiance she's " got connections " and is going to have some friends or some

> > crap look into it once the case is closed to see if they can find out who

> > called. She shouldn't get anywhere since it was an anonymous phone call,

> > but you never know.

> >

> > So very disgusted and disappointed in " the system " . It has failed my step

> > kids. Nothing was investigated but the shape of the house, which they were

> > given warning about & had time to start fixing. But the true concerns...

> > not a single one was looked into.

> >

> > Mia

> >

> >