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well we got the cat scan results today and mathew does not have or very

little of the semi circular canal. no balance right? please i need info. he is

six

and does not walk but can crawl. he stands on his tip toes gives him no

balance. need some direction. stacey mother of mathew6

(charger),rylie4.

and cameron 19months

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Stacey,

Many of our kids have underdeveloped semi-circular canals and still do walk,

so I hope that is encouraging.

What kinds of therapy does your son receive? Does he receive Physical

Therapy? Has he tried a walker from the rehab center or school? When he

stands on his tip-toes, does he hold onto something like a table or chair,

or does he stand independently this way?

wendy

need some help

> well we got the cat scan results today and mathew does not have or very

> little of the semi circular canal. no balance right? please i need info.

> he is six

> and does not walk but can crawl. he stands on his tip toes gives him no

> balance. need some direction. stacey mother of mathew6

> (charger),rylie4.

> and cameron 19months

>

>

>

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wendy the doc told us that he would not walk on his own. now that just makes

mad he tolds us that like there was no hope. he has lots of support. he has

pt at school, a walker, gate trainer, and a stander. he also does horse back

riding once a week til nov. i guess a was hoping for mathew to catch a break.

it ok he will over come. he always has. when he stands he pulls on anything he

can. we got braces for his feet to make him stand flat, but as soon as they

come off back to tip toes. he is so studden. lol not anything like me!!!!

thanks for chatting with me about it. hope to chat agian. stacey

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Marilyn he stands tip toe in shoes and barefoot. the only time he doesn't

is in his braces, and as soon as they are off he is tip toe agian. i just

don't know what to do. he did not have a trach. he had a cleft. stacey

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Stacey:

Just curious: Is this barefoot? One thing we were told was that due to

tactile defensiveness, would try to walk without her big toes

touching the floor. It corresponds to pressure points

(acupuncture/acupressure) in your neck. had been trached and was

very defensive about it. There were other parts of her feet, when walking

barefoot, that she was particular about touching the floor too. These all

corresponded to pressure points that connected to problems she had within

her system related to CHARGE.

Friends in CHARGE,

Marilyn Ogan

Mom of (14 yrs, CHARGE+ JRA)

Mom of Ken (17 yrs, Asperger's)

Wife of Rick

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we got braces for his feet to make him stand flat, but as soon as they

come off back to tip toes.

stacey

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Hi Stacey,

I remember from a talk Brown gave that the tip toe thing was quite

common to children with charge when they were learning to walk because it

gives better propriceptive information to the muscles. He had the whole

audience feel the difference in their calf muscles between standing flat

footed and then compare it to standing tip toe. On tip toe you feel your

calves so much more, and so he felt that tip toeing was one way the children

were gaining from getting better messages back to their nerves. Hope you

can make sense of this, I'm not too good at explaining what he meant, but I

think his whole talk is somewhere on the www.sense.org.uk website if you

want to read it.

I wonder if inhibiting the tip toeing might make it harder for some children

to learn to work, if they get better info from their nerves and muscles when

they tip toe then we should allow/encourage it?? I know still

occassionally tip toes but much less often as his walking has got more

stable, but in the beginning when he was using a pushalong truck or his kaye

walker he would tip toe loads.

Now he walks independantly (but with a sort of drunken sway!)

is (Mum to UK)

>

> Marilyn he stands tip toe in shoes and barefoot. the only time he

> doesn't

> is in his braces, and as soon as they are off he is tip toe agian. i just

> don't know what to do. he did not have a trach. he had a cleft. stacey

>

>

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hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm very interesting alexis very interesting love u

>

> Hi Stacey,

>

> I remember from a talk Brown gave that the tip toe thing was quite

> common to children with charge when they were learning to walk because it

> gives better propriceptive information to the muscles. He had the whole

> audience feel the difference in their calf muscles between standing flat

> footed and then compare it to standing tip toe. On tip toe you feel your

> calves so much more, and so he felt that tip toeing was one way the

> children

> were gaining from getting better messages back to their nerves. Hope you

> can make sense of this, I'm not too good at explaining what he meant, but

> I

> think his whole talk is somewhere on the www.sense.org.uk website if you

> want to read it.

> I wonder if inhibiting the tip toeing might make it harder for some

> children

> to learn to work, if they get better info from their nerves and muscles

> when

> they tip toe then we should allow/encourage it?? I know still

> occassionally tip toes but much less often as his walking has got more

> stable, but in the beginning when he was using a pushalong truck or his

> kaye

> walker he would tip toe loads.

> Now he walks independantly (but with a sort of drunken sway!)

> is (Mum to UK)

>

> On 10/9/06, uspacey@... <uspacey%40aol.com>

<uspacey@...<uspacey%40aol.com>>

> wrote:

> >

> > Marilyn he stands tip toe in shoes and barefoot. the only time he

> > doesn't

> > is in his braces, and as soon as they are off he is tip toe agian. i

> just

> > don't know what to do. he did not have a trach. he had a cleft. stacey

> >

> >

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I haven't read the earlier strand of these messages but I just wanted to say

that my CHARGEr, , started walking when she was 4 and I never saw it

coming! These kids do what they want when they want and they prove people wrong

all the time!

Lori Myers

Spouse - Trent, Children - (9), (6, CHARGE Syndrome, Congenital

Heart Defects/TOF Pulmonary Atresia/repaired, ECMO 12 days, Bi-lateral Choanal

Atresia, Decanullated Trach, G-button, partial hearing loss, walking as of

12/22/04!, and Emma (3)

Dallas, Texas

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wendy the doc told us that he would not walk on his own. now that just makes

mad he tolds us that like there was no hope. he has lots of support. he has

pt at school, a walker, gate trainer, and a stander. he also does horse back

riding once a week til nov. i guess a was hoping for mathew to catch a break.

it ok he will over come. he always has. when he stands he pulls on anything he

can. we got braces for his feet to make him stand flat, but as soon as they

come off back to tip toes. he is so studden. lol not anything like me!!!!

thanks for chatting with me about it. hope to chat agian. stacey

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