Re: Info on the new product we've been using -dosing info

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Good theory - very similar to the Vitamin A and measles theory: Low doses of Vitamin A will "feed" measles, allowing it to thrive while High doses (High -Dose Vitamin A protocol) will KILL measles. As my good friend, , used to say: "Same thing, but different..." : )

To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex >Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 10:13 AMSubject: Re: Re: Info on the new product we've been using -dosing info

I dont count..just cup my hand and put a small handful...the stuff is food...but from my experience and hearing others...if you give to little their is not enuff binders to grab on to the mercury that is stirred up ..so in this case i would think it more dangerous to use to little not too much.

channa

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 10:01 AMSubject: Re: Re: Info on the new product we've been using -dosing info

How much do you use Channa?Sent from my iPhone

wanted to add about the chlorella if your kid has not good reaction it may be that you need more...i use to give my son three or four chlorella caps at a time..big mistake..it kicked up mercury but wasnt enuff to completely bind it..so i started doing a handful of the stuff and voila..no more bad reaction

channa

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 10:36 AMSubject: Re: Info on the new product we've been using -dosing info

Wow, this is so exciting. It really goes to the heart of some things that have been on the periphery of my understanding, but keep coming up. So I missed some of the earlier discussion, what surfactant product are you using, at what dosage for everyone? We also had great interest in the Kangen water a while back, but then I have had so many new concepts coming in lately, it went to the back burner. How much chlorella, cilantro, and alfalfa are you using (for what weight)? We have been using these three also recently, but I did not have much to go on when deciding dosage. So I've started with what is recommended on the bottles, adjusted for the weight of each of us. I have noticed that for us (for all of us in the family), Alfalfa created pus-filled detox boils, so I am wondering if we used too much or needed to add in something else. . .THANKS for all of this great, specific info!!!> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >>

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Gotcha, thanks!Sent from my iPhone

I dont count..just cup my hand and put a small handful...the stuff is food...but from my experience and hearing others...if you give to little their is not enuff binders to grab on to the mercury that is stirred up ..so in this case i would think it more dangerous to use to little not too much.

channa

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 10:01 AMSubject: Re: Re: Info on the new product we've been using -dosing info

How much do you use Channa?Sent from my iPhone

wanted to add about the chlorella if your kid has not good reaction it may be that you need more...i use to give my son three or four chlorella caps at a time..big mistake..it kicked up mercury but wasnt enuff to completely bind it..so i started doing a handful of the stuff and voila..no more bad reaction

channa

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 10:36 AMSubject: Re:

Info on the new product we've been using -dosing info

Wow, this is so exciting. It really goes to the heart of some things that have been on the periphery of my understanding, but keep coming up. So I missed some of the earlier discussion, what surfactant product are you using, at what dosage for everyone? We also had great interest in the Kangen water a while back, but then I have had so many new concepts coming in lately, it went to the back burner. How much chlorella, cilantro, and alfalfa are you using (for what weight)? We have been using these three also recently, but I did not have much to go on when deciding dosage. So I've started with what is recommended on the bottles, adjusted for the weight of each of us. I have noticed that for us (for all of us in the family), Alfalfa created pus-filled detox boils, so I am wondering if we used too much or needed to add in something else. . .THANKS for all of this great, specific info!!!> > >> > > Rita wow great post!> > > can i ask you what have you been using to chelate the metals?> > > channa> > > > > > > > >

________________________________> > > From: rchildbalance

<rchildbalance@>> > > To: mb12valtrex > > > Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 2:12 AM> > > Subject: Re: Info on the new product we've been using -dosing info> > > > > > > > >  > > > ,> > > Thank You So Much For Your Post!! Loved your input on soil/plant surfactant confirmations...I'm opposite of board with it, it's exciting to me !! It confirms back to me what I saw with the cut green Christmas tree that looked great months later & one of our WA moms report of her sick basil plant turned around

(from message# #106474/my original post on this product the

end of Apr). Since then I've also received pictures of tests run as plants were sprouted, some with this product side by side from the same seed packet without....the bigger healthier plants were very clearly the ones that were watered w/3 drops/per gallon w/this product.> > > > > > Now on to binders for you. The way we generally use binders is as a "mopping up" agent. When killing things toxins can be stirred up/dumped. The binders assist the body in capturing & removing them from the body.> > > One of the best explanations of this toxin dumping I've found is Stan's "Comprehensive Anti-viral Approach" that can be found on TACA's website:> > > http://www.tacanow.org/family-resources/a-comprehensive-antiviral-approach/> > > > > > There are many binders, in

fact on the BorreliaMultipleInfectionsandAutism group there have been whole threads as we worked as a group to put together info on binders-what & why.> > > > > > The binders that my son has been successfully on for a few years now have been BioPures Chlorella (link w/info):> > > http://stores.homestead.com/BiopureHealingProducts/Detail.bok?no=1> > > Also, here's a good write up on Chlorella:> > > http://www.defeatautismyesterday.com/KlinghartNeurotoxinProtocol.htm> > > > > >

We also use Alfalfa which is also a binder, high in minerals & vitamins).> > > > > > In regards to the stim, if I remember right I think it was

this group that just had a whole thread on stimming. What we've generally noticed in our WA group ( & in my child) is that as you kill things, the metals dump alone will sometimes cause extra stimming...if the stimming comes when you're killing things, putting extra binders on board will generally help.> > > > > > Not to write a book here, but I've found as I've chelated, I could pretty much peg the metal he was dumping the most @ the time by his behaviors...if he is mouthing more, drooling more, hand flapping or toe walking more, concider looking at mercury movement.> > > For us, it's taken years to move out mercury, but his current DD Hair report has him excreting out mercury at his highest ever (in the yellow @ .63). Several years ago I did some research on toxic metals sources & symptoms then did a paper on the findings. I used everything from the lab test write-ups (some of the best were the Doctors

Data...he was deranged in so many things I had a pretty wide spectrum pool of info). > > > > > > Here's from my notes on mercury:> > > "Early signs of mercury exposure include decreased sense of touch, hearing, vision and taste, fatigue, increased salivation. Moderate exposure symptoms include numbness in mouth and extremities, headaches, hypertension, irritability and excitability, immune suppression. Advanced exposure includes tremors, in-coordination, anemia, psychoses, manic behaviors, autoimmune disorders, renal dysfunction or failure.> > > July, 2000 Testimony before US House of Representatives: Mercury poisoning side affects "include the defining characteristics of autism - sensory disturbances such as numbness in the extremities and mouth, aver

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Channa and Rita, thanks so much. We did start Mia on just I think it was 2

Chlorella and it did not go well, so I bumped her up to 5 and she had a

significant turn around. Thanks so much for helping me understand why. We also

added in the Bentonite clay which is helping.

Definitely I think the pimples/boils are detox. We have been checking stool for

yeast, more of an issue in spurts for Mia. We started a homeopathic that is

helping with this.

I am really excited to hear about surfactants and hope to dive into research in

the next few days. Thank you so much Rita for the recommendation and for the

examples of dosing you are doing (for this and the chlorella, etc). Considering

there are more than 5000 surfactants you say?, I could have spent a lot of time

banging my head against a wall. Lately I am going with recommendations first and

then seeing what happens so I can save the head banging for times when

recommendations don't work! Only so much head to bang here!

We just made our bigger changes recently, adjusting to the Klinghardt protocol,

and went through the rough and tumble shake up, and are coming out in really

good shape, so it will be a good time to start on one new supportive thing now.

Thanks,

:)

> >

> > wanted to add about the chlorella if your kid has not good reaction it may

be that you need more...i use to give my son three or four chlorella caps at a

time..big mistake..it kicked up mercury but wasnt enuff to completely bind

it..so i started doing a  handful of the stuff and voila..no more bad

reaction

> > channa

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> > From: <lambspeed@>

> > To: mb12valtrex

> > Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 10:36 AM

> > Subject: Re: Info on the new product we've been using -dosing

info

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Hi ,Do you have a good link for a concise description of the Klinghardt protocol? The website has a plethora of information about a number of different topics and although there were good links to theory and metabolism, I have yet to understand what the clinical implementation of his protocol would consist of.I also want to personally thank you for being such a frequent source of education and inspiration. Your posts are so beautifully written, organized and intelligent. Certainly can't tell about the head-banging from here! LIKE LIKE LIKE!Sylvia

Channa and Rita, thanks so much. We did start Mia on just I think it was 2 Chlorella and it did not go well, so I bumped her up to 5 and she had a significant turn around. Thanks so much for helping me understand why. We also added in the Bentonite clay which is helping.

Definitely I think the pimples/boils are detox. We have been checking stool for yeast, more of an issue in spurts for Mia. We started a homeopathic that is helping with this.

I am really excited to hear about surfactants and hope to dive into research in the next few days. Thank you so much Rita for the recommendation and for the examples of dosing you are doing (for this and the chlorella, etc). Considering there are more than 5000 surfactants you say?, I could have spent a lot of time banging my head against a wall. Lately I am going with recommendations first and then seeing what happens so I can save the head banging for times when recommendations don't work! Only so much head to bang here!

We just made our bigger changes recently, adjusting to the Klinghardt protocol, and went through the rough and tumble shake up, and are coming out in really good shape, so it will be a good time to start on one new supportive thing now.

Thanks,

:)

> >

> > wanted to add about the chlorella if your kid has not good reaction it may be that you need more...i use to give my son three or four chlorella caps at a time..big mistake..it kicked up mercury but wasnt enuff to completely bind it..so i started doing a  handful of the stuff and voila..no more bad reaction

> > channa

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> > From: <lambspeed@>

> > To: mb12valtrex

> > Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 10:36 AM

> > Subject: Re: Info on the new product we've been using -dosing info

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Sylvia,

You are kind, thanks for these uplifting words!

Here is a link to the HPU/KPU protocol

http://www.publichealthalert.org/Articles/scottforsgren/2Klinghardt.htm

Here is a link to the general Autism protocol

http://www.klinghardtacademy.com/images/stories/powerpoints/autism%20protocol%20\

09.pdf

-NOTE- he has a more complete and updated protocol which I have only been

able to find part of on his website. I still need to track this down.

Here is a link to interview/lecture on Youtube. There are lots of these on

youtube and they are very interesting.

There is a better series of 12 that goes into specific detail on the order of

what to do- I can't find it at the moment but the next time I come across it,

I'll post it.

Good luck!

>

> Hi ,

> Do you have a good link for a concise description of the Klinghardt protocol?

The website has a plethora of information about a number of different topics and

although there were good links to theory and metabolism, I have yet to

understand what the clinical implementation of his protocol would consist of.

>

> I also want to personally thank you for being such a frequent source of

education and inspiration. Your posts are so beautifully written, organized and

intelligent. Certainly can't tell about the head-banging from here! LIKE LIKE

LIKE!

> Sylvia

>