Guest guest Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 My son has been on Enhansa for over a year now and making steady gains. Two nights ago I forgot I had put the stainless steel skillet in a 400 degree oven and grabbed the handle not minutes after taking it out. The top of my palm and three fingers were bright red and I could feel blisters forming. Ran cold water on it and looked up People's Pharmacy on burns. They recommended soy sauce and mustard. Tried the soy sauce first, but it still burned and really hurt. Coated my hand in mustard (french's bright yellow -- husband's favorite)for ten minutes and then washed it off and put it on ice. Had one minor blister and all the redness was gone. Put more mustard on a bandaid and covered the one blister and it was gone in the morning leaving behind only a minor yellow stain. When I think about all the discussion of curcumin and inflammation, I shouldn't be surprised that it helped, but I am. Will now increase my son's Enhansa dose again. Started Neuroprotek two weeks ago and hearing conversational full spontaneous sentences for the first time. Truly believe combating inflammation is a key for my son. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 , please keep us posted on the Neuroprotek. My son's doctor recommended this but it would cost us around $80/month - not something we can easily afford. To: mb12valtrex Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 11:45 AMSubject: Curcumin and Inflammation My son has been on Enhansa for over a year now and making steady gains. Two nights ago I forgot I had put the stainless steel skillet in a 400 degree oven and grabbed the handle not minutes after taking it out. The top of my palm and three fingers were bright red and I could feel blisters forming. Ran cold water on it and looked up People's Pharmacy on burns. They recommended soy sauce and mustard. Tried the soy sauce first, but it still burned and really hurt. Coated my hand in mustard (french's bright yellow -- husband's favorite)for ten minutes and then washed it off and put it on ice. Had one minor blister and all the redness was gone. Put more mustard on a bandaid and covered the one blister and it was gone in the morning leaving behind only a minor yellow stain. When I think about all the discussion of curcumin and inflammation, I shouldn't be surprised that it helped, but I am. Will now increase my son's Enhansa dose again. Started Neuroprotek two weeks ago and hearing conversational full spontaneous sentences for the first time. Truly believe combating inflammation is a key for my son. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 FYI,I attended one of Dr Theo's talk and he mentioned that they are in process of coming out with pure Luteolin form of Neuroprotek, hopefully soon. He encourages feedback on Neuroprotek, so feel free to write him. / Noel , please keep us posted on the Neuroprotek. My son's doctor recommended this but it would cost us around $80/month - not something we can easily afford. To: mb12valtrex Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 11:45 AM Subject: Curcumin and Inflammation My son has been on Enhansa for over a year now and making steady gains. Two nights ago I forgot I had put the stainless steel skillet in a 400 degree oven and grabbed the handle not minutes after taking it out. The top of my palm and three fingers were bright red and I could feel blisters forming. Ran cold water on it and looked up People's Pharmacy on burns. They recommended soy sauce and mustard. Tried the soy sauce first, but it still burned and really hurt. Coated my hand in mustard (french's bright yellow -- husband's favorite)for ten minutes and then washed it off and put it on ice. Had one minor blister and all the redness was gone. Put more mustard on a bandaid and covered the one blister and it was gone in the morning leaving behind only a minor yellow stain. When I think about all the discussion of curcumin and inflammation, I shouldn't be surprised that it helped, but I am. Will now increase my son's Enhansa dose again. Started Neuroprotek two weeks ago and hearing conversational full spontaneous sentences for the first time. Truly believe combating inflammation is a key for my son. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 That's good news about Neuroprotek. My son has been on Lutimax which is almost pure Luteolin (100mg). It's really helped him. His teacher says he doing much better academically in school. I think addessing inflammation is key. I wonder though what is causing the inflammation in the first place.. is the immune system responding to bad gut bugs? , please keep us posted on the Neuroprotek. My son's doctor recommended this but it would cost us around $80/month - not something we can easily afford. To: mb12valtrex Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 11:45 AMSubject: Curcumin and Inflammation My son has been on Enhansa for over a year now and making steady gains. Two nights ago I forgot I had put the stainless steel skillet in a 400 degree oven and grabbed the handle not minutes after taking it out. The top of my palm and three fingers were bright red and I could feel blisters forming. Ran cold water on it and looked up People's Pharmacy on burns. They recommended soy sauce and mustard. Tried the soy sauce first, but it still burned and really hurt. Coated my hand in mustard (french's bright yellow -- husband's favorite)for ten minutes and then washed it off and put it on ice. Had one minor blister and all the redness was gone. Put more mustard on a bandaid and covered the one blister and it was gone in the morning leaving behind only a minor yellow stain. When I think about all the discussion of curcumin and inflammation, I shouldn't be surprised that it helped, but I am. Will now increase my son's Enhansa dose again. Started Neuroprotek two weeks ago and hearing conversational full spontaneous sentences for the first time. Truly believe combating inflammation is a key for my son. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 I discussed the issue with our dan and he believes that our children have a dysregulated immune system because of a lingering chronic viral infection which is likely a dna virus like polyoma virus and these viruses are very smart and body tends to forget that they are in the cells. That causes chronic infectious state leading to inflammation of brain. This is the reason that most of the kids do well on antiinflammatories. Getting the immune system ready to fight the viruses is the key. is > > >  > > > > > > , please keep us posted on the Neuroprotek. My son's doctor recommended this but it would cost us around $80/month - not something we can easily afford. > > > > > > > To: mb12valtrex > Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 11:45 AM > Subject: Curcumin and Inflammation > > > > >  > > My son has been on Enhansa for over a year now and making steady gains. Two nights ago I forgot I had put the stainless steel skillet in a 400 degree oven and grabbed the handle not minutes after taking it out. The top of my palm and three fingers were bright red and I could feel blisters forming. Ran cold water on it and looked up People's Pharmacy on burns. They recommended soy sauce and mustard. Tried the soy sauce first, but it still burned and really hurt. Coated my hand in mustard (french's bright yellow -- husband's favorite)for ten minutes and then washed it off and put it on ice. Had one minor blister and all the redness was gone. Put more mustard on a bandaid and covered the one blister and it was gone in the morning leaving behind only a minor yellow stain. When I think about all the discussion of curcumin and inflammation, I shouldn't be surprised that it helped, but I am. Will now increase my son's Enhansa dose again. Started Neuroprotek two > weeks ago and hearing conversational full spontaneous sentences for the first time. Truly believe combating inflammation is a key for my son. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 We just passed the 3 month mark on NeuroProtek. Far less reactive to his allergens. He returns to a stable state more quickly and sometimes doesn't even react at all all to his tried and true anxiety triggers. It's the only new supp addition to his protocol in 10 months so I'm reasonably sure the gains are the result of NP. Some of the early gains I saw with advil I now see consistently with NP, backing the inflammation theory. My son's not asd but is classic presentation PANDAS. We started seeing what I would consider significant gains about 8 wks after we got to what is considered our standard dose based on his weight. Expensive, but it's a keeper in our lineup.To: mb12valtrex Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 3:25 PMSubject: Re: Curcumin and Inflammation I discussed the issue with our dan and he believes that our children have a dysregulated immune system because of a lingering chronic viral infection which is likely a dna virus like polyoma virus and these viruses are very smart and body tends to forget that they are in the cells. That causes chronic infectious state leading to inflammation of brain. This is the reason that most of the kids do well on antiinflammatories. Getting the immune system ready to fight the viruses is the key. is > > >  > > > > > > , please keep us posted on the Neuroprotek. My son's doctor recommended this but it would cost us around $80/month - not something we can easily afford. > > > > > > > To: mb12valtrex > Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 11:45 AM > Subject: Curcumin and Inflammation > > > > >  > > My son has been on Enhansa for over a year now and making steady gains. Two nights ago I forgot I had put the stainless steel skillet in a 400 degree oven and grabbed the handle not minutes after taking it out. The top of my palm and three fingers were bright red and I could feel blisters forming. Ran cold water on it and looked up People's Pharmacy on burns. They recommended soy sauce and mustard. Tried the soy sauce first, but it still burned and really hurt. Coated my hand in mustard (french's bright yellow -- husband's favorite)for ten minutes and then washed it off and put it on ice. Had one minor blister and all the redness was gone. Put more mustard on a bandaid and covered the one blister and it was gone in the morning leaving behind only a minor yellow stain. When I think about all the discussion of curcumin and inflammation, I shouldn't be surprised that it helped, but I am. Will now increase my son's Enhansa dose again. Started Neuroprotek two > weeks ago and hearing conversational full spontaneous sentences for the first time. Truly believe combating inflammation is a key for my son. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 We also saw good gains with it, but unfortunately it also caused reflux - pain in the esophagus, esp in the evenings - when lying down, and constant burping and belching throughout day. We've tried restarting a few times and each time the same thing would start to happen, about 2 weeks in... Natasa > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > , please keep us posted on the Neuroprotek. My son's doctor recommended this but it would cost us around $80/month - not something we can easily afford. > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Kay lkwberry@ > > To: mb12valtrex > > Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 11:45 AM > > Subject: Curcumin and Inflammation > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > My son has been on Enhansa for over a year now and making steady gains. Two nights ago I forgot I had put the stainless steel skillet in a 400 degree oven and grabbed the handle not minutes after taking it out. The top of my palm and three fingers were bright red and I could feel blisters forming. Ran cold water on it and looked up People's Pharmacy on burns. They recommended soy sauce and mustard. Tried the soy sauce first, but it still burned and really hurt. Coated my hand in mustard (french's bright yellow -- husband's favorite)for ten minutes and then washed it off and put it on ice. Had one minor blister and all the redness was gone. Put more mustard on a bandaid and covered the one blister and it was gone in the morning leaving behind only a minor yellow stain. When I think about all the discussion of curcumin and inflammation, I shouldn't be surprised that it helped, but I am. Will now increase my son's Enhansa dose again. Started Neuroprotek > two > > weeks ago and hearing conversational full spontaneous sentences for the first time. Truly believe combating inflammation is a key for my son. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 Natasa, did you have any luck if you kept them in the freezer. That's what I do because my kid is a big burpback candidate. He hasn't complained about it yet and he does 5 of them per day. Just a thought.To: mb12valtrex Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 4:44 PMSubject: Re: Curcumin and Inflammation We also saw good gains with it, but unfortunately it also caused reflux - pain in the esophagus, esp in the evenings - when lying down, and constant burping and belching throughout day. We've tried restarting a few times and each time the same thing would start to happen, about 2 weeks in... Natasa > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > , please keep us posted on the Neuroprotek. My son's doctor recommended this but it would cost us around $80/month - not something we can easily afford. > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Kay lkwberry@ > > To: mb12valtrex > > Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 11:45 AM > > Subject: Curcumin and Inflammation > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > My son has been on Enhansa for over a year now and making steady gains. Two nights ago I forgot I had put the stainless steel skillet in a 400 degree oven and grabbed the handle not minutes after taking it out. The top of my palm and three fingers were bright red and I could feel blisters forming. Ran cold water on it and looked up People's Pharmacy on burns. They recommended soy sauce and mustard. Tried the soy sauce first, but it still burned and really hurt. Coated my hand in mustard (french's bright yellow -- husband's favorite)for ten minutes and then washed it off and put it on ice. Had one minor blister and all the redness was gone. Put more mustard on a bandaid and covered the one blister and it was gone in the morning leaving behind only a minor yellow stain. When I think about all the discussion of curcumin and inflammation, I shouldn't be surprised that it helped, but I am. Will now increase my son's Enhansa dose again. Started Neuroprotek > two > > weeks ago and hearing conversational full spontaneous sentences for the first time. Truly believe combating inflammation is a key for my son. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 Hasn't occurred to me, thanks for the tip! Still have 2 bottles left, which I was going to down myself not to go to waste lol nx > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , please keep us posted on the Neuroprotek. My son's > doctor recommended this but it would cost us around $80/month - not > something we can easily afford. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Kay lkwberry@ > > > To: mb12valtrex > > > Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 11:45 AM > > > Subject: Curcumin and Inflammation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > My son has been on Enhansa for over a year now and making steady > gains. Two nights ago I forgot I had put the stainless steel skillet in > a 400 degree oven and grabbed the handle not minutes after taking it > out. The top of my palm and three fingers were bright red and I could > feel blisters forming. Ran cold water on it and looked up People's > Pharmacy on burns. They recommended soy sauce and mustard. Tried the soy > sauce first, but it still burned and really hurt. Coated my hand in > mustard (french's bright yellow -- husband's favorite)for ten minutes > and then washed it off and put it on ice. Had one minor blister and all > the redness was gone. Put more mustard on a bandaid and covered the one > blister and it was gone in the morning leaving behind only a minor > yellow stain. When I think about all the discussion of curcumin and > inflammation, I shouldn't be surprised that it helped, but I am. Will > now increase my son's Enhansa dose again. Started Neuroprotek > > two > > > weeks ago and hearing conversational full spontaneous sentences for > the first time. Truly believe combating inflammation is a key for my > son. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 I have a few questions for you, what is the dose for your son and how many time after begin with enhansa did you notice the gains. I started enhansa a month ago but have not seen gains. > > My son has been on Enhansa for over a year now and making steady gains. Two nights ago I forgot I had put the stainless steel skillet in a 400 degree oven and grabbed the handle not minutes after taking it out. The top of my palm and three fingers were bright red and I could feel blisters forming. Ran cold water on it and looked up People's Pharmacy on burns. They recommended soy sauce and mustard. Tried the soy sauce first, but it still burned and really hurt. Coated my hand in mustard (french's bright yellow -- husband's favorite)for ten minutes and then washed it off and put it on ice. Had one minor blister and all the redness was gone. Put more mustard on a bandaid and covered the one blister and it was gone in the morning leaving behind only a minor yellow stain. When I think about all the discussion of curcumin and inflammation, I shouldn't be surprised that it helped, but I am. Will now increase my son's Enhansa dose again. Started Neuroprotek two weeks ago and hearing conversational full spontaneous sentences for the first time. Truly believe combating inflammation is a key for my son. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 Autism is not just immune dysfunction, but an immune system turned off. Think of having a cold or flu virus, and how awful you feel as your body fights off the germ. Now look at your typical child with autism, rarely getting colds and flus. They are still getting the cold and flu germs; the difference is that they live in our children wreaking havoc because their immune systems are turned off. They don't fight off the infections. This is why the measles from the vaccines lives in them and other viruses and all the other pathogens they are stock-piling. These are the things currently being blamed for turning off their immune systems: pleomorphic pathogens (XMRV, HTLV-1, HIV, Lyme, Bartonella, Mycoplasma, Brucella) and mercury, and I am sure there are also other toxins that do as well. Unfortunately, most of these are difficult to test for unless the body is in a healthy state. We must believe those before us who have already recovered children, (docs or parents), in order to trust that treating such pathogens and toxins is key. This is what I have learned. I think turmeric touches not only inflammation but in general many areas of the immune system, digestion, and hindrance to pathogens and helper to detoxing. I don't feel it's a cure at all, but it has been the main helper at my house. I love it to pieces! Love and prayers, Heidi N That's good news about Neuroprotek. My son has been on Lutimax which is almost pure Luteolin (100mg). It's really helped him. His teacher says he doing much better academically in school. I think addessing inflammation is key. I wonder though what is causing the inflammation in the first place.. is the immune system responding to bad gut bugs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 Heidi,I'd like to know for those who give it? Do you usually open theCucurmin capsule? Is the taste tolerable by the kid?What is the brand you are using? Thank you, MhelTo: mb12valtrex From: allrpossible@...Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 18:16:40 -0500Subject: Re: Curcumin and Inflammation Autism is not just immune dysfunction, but an immune system turned off. Think of having a cold or flu virus, and how awful you feel as your body fights off the germ. Now look at your typical child with autism, rarely getting colds and flus. They are still getting the cold and flu germs; the difference is that they live in our children wreaking havoc because their immune systems are turned off. They don't fight off the infections. This is why the measles from the vaccines lives in them and other viruses and all the other pathogens they are stock-piling. These are the things currently being blamed for turning off their immune systems: pleomorphic pathogens (XMRV, HTLV-1, HIV, Lyme, Bartonella, Mycoplasma, Brucella) and mercury, and I am sure there are also other toxins that do as well. Unfortunately, most of these are difficult to test for unless the body is in a healthy state. We must believe those before us who have already recovered children, (docs or parents), in order to trust that treating such pathogens and toxins is key. This is what I have learned. I think turmeric touches not only inflammation but in general many areas of the immune system, digestion, and hindrance to pathogens and helper to detoxing. I don't feel it's a cure at all, but it has been the main helper at my house. I love it to pieces! Love and prayers, Heidi N That's good news about Neuroprotek. My son has been on Lutimax which is almost pure Luteolin (100mg). It's really helped him. His teacher says he doing much better academically in school. I think addessing inflammation is key. I wonder though what is causing the inflammation in the first place.. is the immune system responding to bad gut bugs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 Thanks for sharing your success story and including info on Neuroprotek. I looked it up and sounds interesting... do you give these capsules? I don't think my son can get those down.Also, on their website I saw this message under Risks:Risks/Side Effects The NeuroProtek® formulation is covered by a Certificate of Free Sale from the Food and Drug Administration (FDA). This certification ensures the amount, purity, source and manufacturing of the ingredients are in a facility inspected by the FDA and fulfilling Good Manufacturing Practices (GMP). There are no side effects known; however, this formulation (as well as any flavonoids) must be used with caution with drugs that are heavily metabolized by the liver as it may affect the resulting blood levels of such compounds.I'm wondering, wouldn't Valtrex be a medicine that is metabolized in the liver?Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 awesome! Thank you for this post!To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex >Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 3:40 PMSubject: Re: Re: Curcumin and Inflammation We just passed the 3 month mark on NeuroProtek. Far less reactive to his allergens. He returns to a stable state more quickly and sometimes doesn't even react at all all to his tried and true anxiety triggers. It's the only new supp addition to his protocol in 10 months so I'm reasonably sure the gains are the result of NP. Some of the early gains I saw with advil I now see consistently with NP, backing the inflammation theory. My son's not asd but is classic presentation PANDAS. We started seeing what I would consider significant gains about 8 wks after we got to what is considered our standard dose based on his weight. Expensive, but it's a keeper in our lineup.To: mb12valtrex Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 3:25 PMSubject: Re: Curcumin and Inflammation I discussed the issue with our dan and he believes that our children have a dysregulated immune system because of a lingering chronic viral infection which is likely a dna virus like polyoma virus and these viruses are very smart and body tends to forget that they are in the cells. That causes chronic infectious state leading to inflammation of brain. This is the reason that most of the kids do well on antiinflammatories. Getting the immune system ready to fight the viruses is the key. is > > >  > > > > > > , please keep us posted on the Neuroprotek. My son's doctor recommended this but it would cost us around $80/month - not something we can easily afford. > > > > > > > To: mb12valtrex > Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 11:45 AM > Subject: Curcumin and Inflammation > > > > >  > > My son has been on Enhansa for over a year now and making steady gains. Two nights ago I forgot I had put the stainless steel skillet in a 400 degree oven and grabbed the handle not minutes after taking it out. The top of my palm and three fingers were bright red and I could feel blisters forming. Ran cold water on it and looked up People's Pharmacy on burns. They recommended soy sauce and mustard. Tried the soy sauce first, but it still burned and really hurt. Coated my hand in mustard (french's bright yellow -- husband's favorite)for ten minutes and then washed it off and put it on ice. Had one minor blister and all the redness was gone. Put more mustard on a bandaid and covered the one blister and it was gone in the morning leaving behind only a minor yellow stain. When I think about all the discussion of curcumin and inflammation, I shouldn't be surprised that it helped, but I am. Will now increase my son's Enhansa dose again. Started Neuroprotek two > weeks ago and hearing conversational full spontaneous sentences for the first time. Truly believe combating inflammation is a key for my son. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 Thansk is, That's very interesting and makes sense. The link below says that 60-80% of adults test positive for the polyomavirus and that the virus is acquired in early childhood. Here's a recent study about about polyomavirus in brain tissue of children with autism..it makes sense that this is what is causing chronic inflammation About polyamavirus: http://tpis1.upmc.com:81/tpis/kidney/KAINbk.html J Neurovirol. 2010 Mar;16(2):141-9. Association of autism with polyomavirus infection in postmortem brains. Lintas C, Altieri L, Lombardi F, Sacco R, Persico AM. Source Laboratory of Molecular Psychiatry and Neurogenetics, University Campus Bio-Medico, Rome, Italy. Abstract Autism is a highly heritable behavioral disorder. Yet, two decades of genetic investigation have unveiled extremely few cases that can be solely explained on the basis of de novo mutations or cytogenetic abnormalities. Vertical viral transmission represents a nongenetic mechanism of disease compatible with high parent-to-offspring transmission and with low rates of disease-specific genetic abnormalities. Vertically transmitted viruses should be found more frequently in the affected tissues of autistic individuals compared to controls. Our initial step was thus to assess by nested polymerase chain reaction (PCR) and DNA sequence analysis the presence of cytomegalovirus (CMV), Epstein-Barr virus (EBV), herpes simplex virus type 1 (HSV1), herpes simplex virus type 2 (HSV2), human herpes virus 6 (HHV6), BK virus (BKV), JC virus (JCV), and simian virus 40 (SV40) in genomic DNA extracted from postmortem temporocortical tissue (Brodmann areas 41/42) belonging to 15 autistic patients and 13 controls. BKV, JCV, and SV40 combined are significantly more frequent among autistic patients compared to controls (67% versus 23%, respectively; P < .05). The majority of positives yielded archetypal sequences, whereas six patients and two controls unveiled single-base pair changes in two or more sequenced clones. No association is present with the remaining viruses, which are found in relatively few individuals (N <or= 3). Also polyviral infections tend to occur more frequently in the brains of autistic patients compared to controls (40% versus 7.7%, respectively; P = .08). Follow-up studies exploring vertical viral transmission as a possible pathogenetic mechanism in autistic disorder should focus on, but not be limited to, the role of polyomaviruses. J Neurovirol. 2010 Jul;16(4):330-1; author reply 332-3. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20345322--- Subject: Re: Curcumin and InflammationTo: mb12valtrex Date: Thursday, October 13, 2011, 3:25 PM I discussed the issue with our dan and he believes that our children have a dysregulated immune system because of a lingering chronic viral infection which is likely a dna virus like polyoma virus and these viruses are very smart and body tends to forget that they are in the cells. That causes chronic infectious state leading to inflammation of brain. This is the reason that most of the kids do well on antiinflammatories. Getting the immune system ready to fight the viruses is the key. is> > >  > > > > > > , please keep us posted on the Neuroprotek. My son's doctor recommended this but it would cost us around $80/month - not something we can easily afford. > > > > > > > To: mb12valtrex > Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 11:45 AM> Subject: Curcumin and Inflammation> > > > >  > > My son has been on Enhansa for over a year now and making steady gains. Two nights ago I forgot I had put the stainless steel skillet in a 400 degree oven and grabbed the handle not minutes after taking it out. The top of my palm and three fingers were bright red and I could feel blisters forming. Ran cold water on it and looked up People's Pharmacy on burns. They recommended soy sauce and mustard. Tried the soy sauce first, but it still burned and really hurt. Coated my hand in mustard (french's bright yellow -- husband's favorite)for ten minutes and then washed it off and put it on ice. Had one minor blister and all the redness was gone. Put more mustard on a bandaid and covered the one blister and it was gone in the morning leaving behind only a minor yellow stain. When I think about all the discussion of curcumin and inflammation, I shouldn't be surprised that it helped, but I am. Will now increase my son's Enhansa dose again. Started Neuroprotek two> weeks ago and hearing conversational full spontaneous sentences for the first time. Truly believe combating inflammation is a key for my son.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 yes i will second the neuroprotek..my son was on it couple months but ran out..stuff was really great as antiinflammatory To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex >Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 11:51 AMSubject: Re: Curcumin and Inflammation , please keep us posted on the Neuroprotek. My son's doctor recommended this but it would cost us around $80/month - not something we can easily afford. To: mb12valtrex Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 11:45 AMSubject: Curcumin and Inflammation My son has been on Enhansa for over a year now and making steady gains. Two nights ago I forgot I had put the stainless steel skillet in a 400 degree oven and grabbed the handle not minutes after taking it out. The top of my palm and three fingers were bright red and I could feel blisters forming. Ran cold water on it and looked up People's Pharmacy on burns. They recommended soy sauce and mustard. Tried the soy sauce first, but it still burned and really hurt. Coated my hand in mustard (french's bright yellow -- husband's favorite)for ten minutes and then washed it off and put it on ice. Had one minor blister and all the redness was gone. Put more mustard on a bandaid and covered the one blister and it was gone in the morning leaving behind only a minor yellow stain. When I think about all the discussion of curcumin and inflammation, I shouldn't be surprised that it helped, but I am. Will now increase my son's Enhansa dose again. Started Neuroprotek two weeks ago and hearing conversational full spontaneous sentences for the first time. Truly believe combating inflammation is a key for my son. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2011 Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 how would you guys rate it's effectiveness against the curcumin? To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex >Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 11:18 PMSubject: Re: Curcumin and Inflammation yes i will second the neuroprotek..my son was on it couple months but ran out..stuff was really great as antiinflammatory To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex >Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 11:51 AMSubject: Re: Curcumin and Inflammation , please keep us posted on the Neuroprotek. My son's doctor recommended this but it would cost us around $80/month - not something we can easily afford. To: mb12valtrex Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 11:45 AMSubject: Curcumin and Inflammation My son has been on Enhansa for over a year now and making steady gains. Two nights ago I forgot I had put the stainless steel skillet in a 400 degree oven and grabbed the handle not minutes after taking it out. The top of my palm and three fingers were bright red and I could feel blisters forming. Ran cold water on it and looked up People's Pharmacy on burns. They recommended soy sauce and mustard. Tried the soy sauce first, but it still burned and really hurt. Coated my hand in mustard (french's bright yellow -- husband's favorite)for ten minutes and then washed it off and put it on ice. Had one minor blister and all the redness was gone. Put more mustard on a bandaid and covered the one blister and it was gone in the morning leaving behind only a minor yellow stain. When I think about all the discussion of curcumin and inflammation, I shouldn't be surprised that it helped, but I am. Will now increase my son's Enhansa dose again. Started Neuroprotek two weeks ago and hearing conversational full spontaneous sentences for the first time. Truly believe combating inflammation is a key for my son. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2011 Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 That's a super idea Gayle. Does he take 5 curcumin daily?Thanks,Sent from my iPhone Hasn't occurred to me, thanks for the tip! Still have 2 bottles left, which I was going to down myself not to go to waste lol nx > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , please keep us posted on the Neuroprotek. My son's > doctor recommended this but it would cost us around $80/month - not > something we can easily afford. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Kay lkwberry@ > > > To: mb12valtrex > > > Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 11:45 AM > > > Subject: Curcumin and Inflammation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > My son has been on Enhansa for over a year now and making steady > gains. Two nights ago I forgot I had put the stainless steel skillet in > a 400 degree oven and grabbed the handle not minutes after taking it > out. The top of my palm and three fingers were bright red and I could > feel blisters forming. Ran cold water on it and looked up People's > Pharmacy on burns. They recommended soy sauce and mustard. Tried the soy > sauce first, but it still burned and really hurt. Coated my hand in > mustard (french's bright yellow -- husband's favorite)for ten minutes > and then washed it off and put it on ice. Had one minor blister and all > the redness was gone. Put more mustard on a bandaid and covered the one > blister and it was gone in the morning leaving behind only a minor > yellow stain. When I think about all the discussion of curcumin and > inflammation, I shouldn't be surprised that it helped, but I am. Will > now increase my son's Enhansa dose again. Started Neuroprotek > > two > > > weeks ago and hearing conversational full spontaneous sentences for > the first time. Truly believe combating inflammation is a key for my > son. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2011 Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 well i think it comes down to each individuals chemistry...i did enhansa first as i heard AMAZING things bout that..but didnt see any big diffrence in my son so i switched to neuroprotek and THEN i saw some big changes... channa To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex >Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 7:55 AMSubject: Re: Curcumin and Inflammation how would you guys rate it's effectiveness against the curcumin? To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex >Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 11:18 PMSubject: Re: Curcumin and Inflammation yes i will second the neuroprotek..my son was on it couple months but ran out..stuff was really great as antiinflammatory To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex >Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 11:51 AMSubject: Re: Curcumin and Inflammation , please keep us posted on the Neuroprotek. My son's doctor recommended this but it would cost us around $80/month - not something we can easily afford. To: mb12valtrex Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 11:45 AMSubject: Curcumin and Inflammation My son has been on Enhansa for over a year now and making steady gains. Two nights ago I forgot I had put the stainless steel skillet in a 400 degree oven and grabbed the handle not minutes after taking it out. The top of my palm and three fingers were bright red and I could feel blisters forming. Ran cold water on it and looked up People's Pharmacy on burns. They recommended soy sauce and mustard. Tried the soy sauce first, but it still burned and really hurt. Coated my hand in mustard (french's bright yellow -- husband's favorite)for ten minutes and then washed it off and put it on ice. Had one minor blister and all the redness was gone. Put more mustard on a bandaid and covered the one blister and it was gone in the morning leaving behind only a minor yellow stain. When I think about all the discussion of curcumin and inflammation, I shouldn't be surprised that it helped, but I am. Will now increase my son's Enhansa dose again. Started Neuroprotek two weeks ago and hearing conversational full spontaneous sentences for the first time. Truly believe combating inflammation is a key for my son. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2011 Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 Hi , he takes 5 NeuroProtek per day and actually I'm about to bump that to 6. We did a short Enhansa trial about a year ago. He was really in a bad place when I introduced it and he had a classic Herx. He's a Herx kid when he's in a severe state, takes very little to sink his ship that is already going down. This week, I bumped OLE 20% to 2250mg per day (split to TID dosing), up from 1500mg per day and in another 7-10 days barring problems I'll add another NP per day. From: Hammes To: mb12valtrex Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 10:14 AMSubject: Re: Re: Curcumin and Inflammation That's a super idea Gayle. Does he take 5 curcumin daily?Thanks,Sent from my iPhone Hasn't occurred to me, thanks for the tip! Still have 2 bottles left, which I was going to down myself not to go to waste lol nx > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , please keep us posted on the Neuroprotek. My son's > doctor recommended this but it would cost us around $80/month - not > something we can easily afford. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Kay lkwberry@ > > > To: mb12valtrex > > > Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 11:45 AM > > > Subject: Curcumin and Inflammation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > My son has been on Enhansa for over a year now and making steady > gains. Two nights ago I forgot I had put the stainless steel skillet in > a 400 degree oven and grabbed the handle not minutes after taking it > out. The top of my palm and three fingers were bright red and I could > feel blisters forming. Ran cold water on it and looked up People's > Pharmacy on burns. They recommended soy sauce and mustard. Tried the soy > sauce first, but it still burned and really hurt. Coated my hand in > mustard (french's bright yellow -- husband's favorite)for ten minutes > and then washed it off and put it on ice. Had one minor blister and all > the redness was gone. Put more mustard on a bandaid and covered the one > blister and it was gone in the morning leaving behind only a minor > yellow stain. When I think about all the discussion of curcumin and > inflammation, I shouldn't be surprised that it helped, but I am. Will > now increase my son's Enhansa dose again. Started Neuroprotek > > two > > > weeks ago and hearing conversational full spontaneous sentences for > the first time. Truly believe combating inflammation is a key for my > son. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2011 Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 Same here. I tried Enhansa first which was great for bringing my son out of brain fog. On Lutimax and Neuroprotek (Luteolin) he just more attentive, responsive, follows directions, stays on task, interacts more, is doing better academically in school. Both products are keepers. Right now, I need something that helps with hyperactivity. Subject: Re: Curcumin and InflammationTo: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex >Date: Friday, October 14, 2011, 10:18 AM well i think it comes down to each individuals chemistry...i did enhansa first as i heard AMAZING things bout that..but didnt see any big diffrence in my son so i switched to neuroprotek and THEN i saw some big changes... channa To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex >Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 7:55 AMSubject: Re: Curcumin and Inflammation how would you guys rate it's effectiveness against the curcumin? To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex >Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 11:18 PMSubject: Re: Curcumin and Inflammation yes i will second the neuroprotek..my son was on it couple months but ran out..stuff was really great as antiinflammatory To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex >Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 11:51 AMSubject: Re: Curcumin and Inflammation , please keep us posted on the Neuroprotek. My son's doctor recommended this but it would cost us around $80/month - not something we can easily afford. To: mb12valtrex Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 11:45 AMSubject: Curcumin and Inflammation My son has been on Enhansa for over a year now and making steady gains. Two nights ago I forgot I had put the stainless steel skillet in a 400 degree oven and grabbed the handle not minutes after taking it out. The top of my palm and three fingers were bright red and I could feel blisters forming. Ran cold water on it and looked up People's Pharmacy on burns. They recommended soy sauce and mustard. Tried the soy sauce first, but it still burned and really hurt. Coated my hand in mustard (french's bright yellow -- husband's favorite)for ten minutes and then washed it off and put it on ice. Had one minor blister and all the redness was gone. Put more mustard on a bandaid and covered the one blister and it was gone in the morning leaving behind only a minor yellow stain. When I think about all the discussion of curcumin and inflammation, I shouldn't be surprised that it helped, but I am. Will now increase my son's Enhansa dose again. Started Neuroprotek two weeks ago and hearing conversational full spontaneous sentences for the first time. Truly believe combating inflammation is a key for my son. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2011 Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 Yes,Narula Research ( brand)Sent from my iPhone Heidi,I'd like to know for those who give it? Do you usually open theCucurmin capsule? Is the taste tolerable by the kid?What is the brand you are using? Thank you, MhelTo: mb12valtrex From: allrpossible@...Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 18:16:40 -0500Subject: Re: Curcumin and Inflammation Autism is not just immune dysfunction, but an immune system turned off. Think of having a cold or flu virus, and how awful you feel as your body fights off the germ. Now look at your typical child with autism, rarely getting colds and flus. They are still getting the cold and flu germs; the difference is that they live in our children wreaking havoc because their immune systems are turned off. They don't fight off the infections. This is why the measles from the vaccines lives in them and other viruses and all the other pathogens they are stock-piling. These are the things currently being blamed for turning off their immune systems: pleomorphic pathogens (XMRV, HTLV-1, HIV, Lyme, Bartonella, Mycoplasma, Brucella) and mercury, and I am sure there are also other toxins that do as well. Unfortunately, most of these are difficult to test for unless the body is in a healthy state. We must believe those before us who have already recovered children, (docs or parents), in order to trust that treating such pathogens and toxins is key. This is what I have learned. I think turmeric touches not only inflammation but in general many areas of the immune system, digestion, and hindrance to pathogens and helper to detoxing. I don't feel it's a cure at all, but it has been the main helper at my house. I love it to pieces! Love and prayers, Heidi N That's good news about Neuroprotek. My son has been on Lutimax which is almost pure Luteolin (100mg). It's really helped him. His teacher says he doing much better academically in school. I think addessing inflammation is key. I wonder though what is causing the inflammation in the first place.. is the immune system responding to bad gut bugs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2011 Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 Essentially, each and every drug that we ingest goes through liver and gets digested/metabolized to an extent. This is called as First pass effect.To Dr. Theo's credit, I realized that they formulated this preparation with a great thought and most importantly, they do not make any money on this drug. / Noel Thanks for sharing your success story and including info on Neuroprotek. I looked it up and sounds interesting... do you give these capsules? I don't think my son can get those down. Also, on their website I saw this message under Risks:Risks/Side Effects The NeuroProtek® formulation is covered by a Certificate of Free Sale from the Food and Drug Administration (FDA). This certification ensures the amount, purity, source and manufacturing of the ingredients are in a facility inspected by the FDA and fulfilling Good Manufacturing Practices (GMP). There are no side effects known; however, this formulation (as well as any flavonoids) must be used with caution with drugs that are heavily metabolized by the liver as it may affect the resulting blood levels of such compounds. I'm wondering, wouldn't Valtrex be a medicine that is metabolized in the liver?Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2011 Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 Thanks Gayle! We tried neuroprotek and did not see much but he only took 1 per day. Maybe I'll revisit. Let me know how the OLE increase works out for him. That stuff has been really a winner for us :)Thanks,Sent from my iPhone Hi , he takes 5 NeuroProtek per day and actually I'm about to bump that to 6. We did a short Enhansa trial about a year ago. He was really in a bad place when I introduced it and he had a classic Herx. He's a Herx kid when he's in a severe state, takes very little to sink his ship that is already going down. This week, I bumped OLE 20% to 2250mg per day (split to TID dosing), up from 1500mg per day and in another 7-10 days barring problems I'll add another NP per day. From: Hammes To: mb12valtrex Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 10:14 AMSubject: Re: Re: Curcumin and Inflammation That's a super idea Gayle. Does he take 5 curcumin daily?Thanks,Sent from my iPhone Hasn't occurred to me, thanks for the tip! Still have 2 bottles left, which I was going to down myself not to go to waste lol nx > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , please keep us posted on the Neuroprotek. My son's > doctor recommended this but it would cost us around $80/month - not > something we can easily afford. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Kay lkwberry@ > > > To: mb12valtrex > > > Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 11:45 AM > > > Subject: Curcumin and Inflammation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > My son has been on Enhansa for over a year now and making steady > gains. Two nights ago I forgot I had put the stainless steel skillet in > a 400 degree oven and grabbed the handle not minutes after taking it > out. The top of my palm and three fingers were bright red and I could > feel blisters forming. Ran cold water on it and looked up People's > Pharmacy on burns. They recommended soy sauce and mustard. Tried the soy > sauce first, but it still burned and really hurt. Coated my hand in > mustard (french's bright yellow -- husband's favorite)for ten minutes > and then washed it off and put it on ice. Had one minor blister and all > the redness was gone. Put more mustard on a bandaid and covered the one > blister and it was gone in the morning leaving behind only a minor > yellow stain. When I think about all the discussion of curcumin and > inflammation, I shouldn't be surprised that it helped, but I am. Will > now increase my son's Enhansa dose again. Started Neuroprotek > > two > > > weeks ago and hearing conversational full spontaneous sentences for > the first time. Truly believe combating inflammation is a key for my > son. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2011 Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 I give Enhansa by opening up the capsule into our son's morning round of meds in his sippy cup. Neuroprotek is a soft capsule which I puncture and squeeze onto his breakfast (gf french toast, bagels etc). He has noticed the color (or taste?) but eats it anyway. He is not conversational, but had finally started telling me "in my head" when I would ask him where it hurts. I ordered the Neuroprotek for specifically because the doctors have not given me any help on his headaches so when he first noticed it and balked on eating it, I told him it was for his head and would make his head feel better. He still notices it, but eats it anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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