Guest guest Posted October 14, 2011 Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 I will, . OLE was a silver bullet for us 5 yrs ago it just failed to give the wow! this time. I'm really encouraged to be increasing the dose. We were using the same dose we did 5 yrs back at nearly half his current body weight. Thanks so much for throwing that fact out there when you did. My son is about 130lbs and I remember I calculated that to be around 5 NP's per day. I divide the dose. He's had NO burp back from it...nearly unheard of for him! Good luck to you and lets stay in touch.To: mb12valtrex Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 11:24 AMSubject: Re: Re: Curcumin and Inflammation Thanks Gayle! We tried neuroprotek and did not see much but he only took 1 per day. Maybe I'll revisit. Let me know how the OLE increase works out for him. That stuff has been really a winner for us :)Thanks,Sent from my iPhone Hi , he takes 5 NeuroProtek per day and actually I'm about to bump that to 6. We did a short Enhansa trial about a year ago. He was really in a bad place when I introduced it and he had a classic Herx. He's a Herx kid when he's in a severe state, takes very little to sink his ship that is already going down. This week, I bumped OLE 20% to 2250mg per day (split to TID dosing), up from 1500mg per day and in another 7-10 days barring problems I'll add another NP per day. From: Hammes To: mb12valtrex Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 10:14 AMSubject: Re: Re: Curcumin and Inflammation That's a super idea Gayle. Does he take 5 curcumin daily?Thanks,Sent from my iPhone Hasn't occurred to me, thanks for the tip! Still have 2 bottles left, which I was going to down myself not to go to waste lol nx > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , please keep us posted on the Neuroprotek. My son's > doctor recommended this but it would cost us around $80/month - not > something we can easily afford. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Kay lkwberry@ > > > To: mb12valtrex > > > Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 11:45 AM > > > Subject: Curcumin and Inflammation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > My son has been on Enhansa for over a year now and making steady > gains. Two nights ago I forgot I had put the stainless steel skillet in > a 400 degree oven and grabbed the handle not minutes after taking it > out. The top of my palm and three fingers were bright red and I could > feel blisters forming. Ran cold water on it and looked up People's > Pharmacy on burns. They recommended soy sauce and mustard. Tried the soy > sauce first, but it still burned and really hurt. Coated my hand in > mustard (french's bright yellow -- husband's favorite)for ten minutes > and then washed it off and put it on ice. Had one minor blister and all > the redness was gone. Put more mustard on a bandaid and covered the one > blister and it was gone in the morning leaving behind only a minor > yellow stain. When I think about all the discussion of curcumin and > inflammation, I shouldn't be surprised that it helped, but I am. Will > now increase my son's Enhansa dose again. Started Neuroprotek > > two > > > weeks ago and hearing conversational full spontaneous sentences for > the first time. Truly believe combating inflammation is a key for my > son. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2011 Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 Yes Gayle, Absolutely!Sent from my iPhone I will, . OLE was a silver bullet for us 5 yrs ago it just failed to give the wow! this time. I'm really encouraged to be increasing the dose. We were using the same dose we did 5 yrs back at nearly half his current body weight. Thanks so much for throwing that fact out there when you did. My son is about 130lbs and I remember I calculated that to be around 5 NP's per day. I divide the dose. He's had NO burp back from it...nearly unheard of for him! Good luck to you and lets stay in touch.To: mb12valtrex Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 11:24 AMSubject: Re: Re: Curcumin and Inflammation Thanks Gayle! We tried neuroprotek and did not see much but he only took 1 per day. Maybe I'll revisit. Let me know how the OLE increase works out for him. That stuff has been really a winner for us :)Thanks,Sent from my iPhone Hi , he takes 5 NeuroProtek per day and actually I'm about to bump that to 6. We did a short Enhansa trial about a year ago. He was really in a bad place when I introduced it and he had a classic Herx. He's a Herx kid when he's in a severe state, takes very little to sink his ship that is already going down. This week, I bumped OLE 20% to 2250mg per day (split to TID dosing), up from 1500mg per day and in another 7-10 days barring problems I'll add another NP per day. From: Hammes To: mb12valtrex Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 10:14 AMSubject: Re: Re: Curcumin and Inflammation That's a super idea Gayle. Does he take 5 curcumin daily?Thanks,Sent from my iPhone Hasn't occurred to me, thanks for the tip! Still have 2 bottles left, which I was going to down myself not to go to waste lol nx > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , please keep us posted on the Neuroprotek. My son's > doctor recommended this but it would cost us around $80/month - not > something we can easily afford. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Kay lkwberry@ > > > To: mb12valtrex > > > Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 11:45 AM > > > Subject: Curcumin and Inflammation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > My son has been on Enhansa for over a year now and making steady > gains. Two nights ago I forgot I had put the stainless steel skillet in > a 400 degree oven and grabbed the handle not minutes after taking it > out. The top of my palm and three fingers were bright red and I could > feel blisters forming. Ran cold water on it and looked up People's > Pharmacy on burns. They recommended soy sauce and mustard. Tried the soy > sauce first, but it still burned and really hurt. Coated my hand in > mustard (french's bright yellow -- husband's favorite)for ten minutes > and then washed it off and put it on ice. Had one minor blister and all > the redness was gone. Put more mustard on a bandaid and covered the one > blister and it was gone in the morning leaving behind only a minor > yellow stain. When I think about all the discussion of curcumin and > inflammation, I shouldn't be surprised that it helped, but I am. Will > now increase my son's Enhansa dose again. Started Neuroprotek > > two > > > weeks ago and hearing conversational full spontaneous sentences for > the first time. Truly believe combating inflammation is a key for my > son. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2011 Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 sarah Do you have to give both Lutimax and Neuroprotek?If i can afford only one, which one do you suggest me to give. Both are very pricey.Thanks Tunde Same here. I tried Enhansa first which was great for bringing my son out of brain fog. On Lutimax and Neuroprotek (Luteolin) he just more attentive, responsive, follows directions, stays on task, interacts more, is doing better academically in school. Both products are keepers. Right now, I need something that helps with hyperactivity. Subject: Re: Curcumin and Inflammation To: " mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex >Date: Friday, October 14, 2011, 10:18 AM well i think it comes down to each individuals chemistry...i did enhansa first as i heard AMAZING things bout that..but didnt see any big diffrence in my son so i switched to neuroprotek and THEN i saw some big changes... channa To: " mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 7:55 AMSubject: Re: Curcumin and Inflammation how would you guys rate it's effectiveness against the curcumin? To: " mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 11:18 PMSubject: Re: Curcumin and Inflammation yes i will second the neuroprotek..my son was on it couple months but ran out..stuff was really great as antiinflammatory To: " mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 11:51 AMSubject: Re: Curcumin and Inflammation , please keep us posted on the Neuroprotek. My son's doctor recommended this but it would cost us around $80/month - not something we can easily afford. To: mb12valtrex Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 11:45 AM Subject: Curcumin and Inflammation My son has been on Enhansa for over a year now and making steady gains. Two nights ago I forgot I had put the stainless steel skillet in a 400 degree oven and grabbed the handle not minutes after taking it out. The top of my palm and three fingers were bright red and I could feel blisters forming. Ran cold water on it and looked up People's Pharmacy on burns. They recommended soy sauce and mustard. Tried the soy sauce first, but it still burned and really hurt. Coated my hand in mustard (french's bright yellow -- husband's favorite)for ten minutes and then washed it off and put it on ice. Had one minor blister and all the redness was gone. Put more mustard on a bandaid and covered the one blister and it was gone in the morning leaving behind only a minor yellow stain. When I think about all the discussion of curcumin and inflammation, I shouldn't be surprised that it helped, but I am. Will now increase my son's Enhansa dose again. Started Neuroprotek two weeks ago and hearing conversational full spontaneous sentences for the first time. Truly believe combating inflammation is a key for my son. -- " Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter. " MLK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2011 Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 Right now we're just doing Lutimax only. For a while I tried Neuroprotek but went back to Lutimax. My son seems to do better on Lutimax. The ingredient Lutelin is in both products but there may be more in Lutimax. Subject: Re: Curcumin and InflammationTo: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex >Date: Friday, October 14, 2011, 10:18 AM well i think it comes down to each individuals chemistry...i did enhansa first as i heard AMAZING things bout that..but didnt see any big diffrence in my son so i switched to neuroprotek and THEN i saw some big changes... channa To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex >Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 7:55 AMSubject: Re: Curcumin and Inflammation how would you guys rate it's effectiveness against the curcumin? To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex >Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 11:18 PMSubject: Re: Curcumin and Inflammation yes i will second the neuroprotek..my son was on it couple months but ran out..stuff was really great as antiinflammatory To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex >Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 11:51 AMSubject: Re: Curcumin and Inflammation , please keep us posted on the Neuroprotek. My son's doctor recommended this but it would cost us around $80/month - not something we can easily afford. To: mb12valtrex Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 11:45 AMSubject: Curcumin and Inflammation My son has been on Enhansa for over a year now and making steady gains. Two nights ago I forgot I had put the stainless steel skillet in a 400 degree oven and grabbed the handle not minutes after taking it out. The top of my palm and three fingers were bright red and I could feel blisters forming. Ran cold water on it and looked up People's Pharmacy on burns. They recommended soy sauce and mustard. Tried the soy sauce first, but it still burned and really hurt. Coated my hand in mustard (french's bright yellow -- husband's favorite)for ten minutes and then washed it off and put it on ice. Had one minor blister and all the redness was gone. Put more mustard on a bandaid and covered the one blister and it was gone in the morning leaving behind only a minor yellow stain. When I think about all the discussion of curcumin and inflammation, I shouldn't be surprised that it helped, but I am. Will now increase my son's Enhansa dose again. Started Neuroprotek two weeks ago and hearing conversational full spontaneous sentences for the first time. Truly believe combating inflammation is a key for my son. -- "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter." MLK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2011 Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 I'm just curious.... for those usingcucurmin or neuroprotek/lutimax,are you on antiviral and or antifungal protocol?I wanted to know if I'm gonna add this to Valtrex/Ketoconazole protocol. Thank you in advance, Mhel To: mb12valtrex From: sailcharters@...Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 18:30:21 -0700Subject: Re: Curcumin and Inflammation Right now we're just doing Lutimax only. For a while I tried Neuroprotek but went back to Lutimax. My son seems to do better on Lutimax. The ingredient Lutelin is in both products but there may be more in Lutimax. Subject: Re: Curcumin and InflammationTo: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex >Date: Friday, October 14, 2011, 10:18 AM well i think it comes down to each individuals chemistry...i did enhansa first as i heard AMAZING things bout that..but didnt see any big diffrence in my son so i switched to neuroprotek and THEN i saw some big changes... channa To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex >Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 7:55 AMSubject: Re: Curcumin and Inflammation how would you guys rate it's effectiveness against the curcumin? To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex >Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 11:18 PMSubject: Re: Curcumin and Inflammation yes i will second the neuroprotek..my son was on it couple months but ran out..stuff was really great as antiinflammatory To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex >Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 11:51 AMSubject: Re: Curcumin and Inflammation , please keep us posted on the Neuroprotek. My son's doctor recommended this but it would cost us around $80/month - not something we can easily afford. To: mb12valtrex Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 11:45 AMSubject: Curcumin and Inflammation My son has been on Enhansa for over a year now and making steady gains. Two nights ago I forgot I had put the stainless steel skillet in a 400 degree oven and grabbed the handle not minutes after taking it out. The top of my palm and three fingers were bright red and I could feel blisters forming. Ran cold water on it and looked up People's Pharmacy on burns. They recommended soy sauce and mustard. Tried the soy sauce first, but it still burned and really hurt. Coated my hand in mustard (french's bright yellow -- husband's favorite)for ten minutes and then washed it off and put it on ice. Had one minor blister and all the redness was gone. Put more mustard on a bandaid and covered the one blister and it was gone in the morning leaving behind only a minor yellow stain. When I think about all the discussion of curcumin and inflammation, I shouldn't be surprised that it helped, but I am. Will now increase my son's Enhansa dose again. Started Neuroprotek two weeks ago and hearing conversational full spontaneous sentences for the first time. Truly believe combating inflammation is a key for my son. -- "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter." MLK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 Right now we're just using Lutimax for inflammation but I was thinking of adding an anti-viral (Vira-stop). Viruses could be what's triggering the inflammation. For a while I was following the NIDS protocol and had my son on an anti fungal Fluconzol (sp?) as well as Valtrex. He's not currently on an anti fungal sine he doesn't have severe GI issues though I may put him on probiotics again to maintain stomach health. Subject: Re: Curcumin and InflammationTo: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex >Date: Friday, October 14, 2011, 10:18 AM well i think it comes down to each individuals chemistry...i did enhansa first as i heard AMAZING things bout that..but didnt see any big diffrence in my son so i switched to neuroprotek and THEN i saw some big changes... channa To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex >Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 7:55 AMSubject: Re: Curcumin and Inflammation how would you guys rate it's effectiveness against the curcumin? To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex >Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 11:18 PMSubject: Re: Curcumin and Inflammation yes i will second the neuroprotek..my son was on it couple months but ran out..stuff was really great as antiinflammatory To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex >Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 11:51 AMSubject: Re: Curcumin and Inflammation , please keep us posted on the Neuroprotek. My son's doctor recommended this but it would cost us around $80/month - not something we can easily afford. To: mb12valtrex Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 11:45 AMSubject: Curcumin and Inflammation My son has been on Enhansa for over a year now and making steady gains. Two nights ago I forgot I had put the stainless steel skillet in a 400 degree oven and grabbed the handle not minutes after taking it out. The top of my palm and three fingers were bright red and I could feel blisters forming. Ran cold water on it and looked up People's Pharmacy on burns. They recommended soy sauce and mustard. Tried the soy sauce first, but it still burned and really hurt. Coated my hand in mustard (french's bright yellow -- husband's favorite)for ten minutes and then washed it off and put it on ice. Had one minor blister and all the redness was gone. Put more mustard on a bandaid and covered the one blister and it was gone in the morning leaving behind only a minor yellow stain. When I think about all the discussion of curcumin and inflammation, I shouldn't be surprised that it helped, but I am. Will now increase my son's Enhansa dose again. Started Neuroprotek two weeks ago and hearing conversational full spontaneous sentences for the first time. Truly believe combating inflammation is a key for my son. -- "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter." MLK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 , I tried to figure from this thread how to come up with OLE dosing, could you advise? We had great response to OLE early on, but are not having much of a response now. Maybe we can increase. THANKS! > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > ÃÆ'‚Â > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > , please keep us posted on the Neuroprotek.ÃÆ'‚Â My > >>son's > >>> doctor recommended this but it would cost us around $80/month - not > >>> something we can easily afford. > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > From: Kay lkwberry@ > >>> > > To: mb12valtrex > >>> > > Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 11:45 AM > >>> > > Subject: Curcumin and Inflammation > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > ÃÆ'‚Â > >>> > > > >>> > > My son has been on Enhansa for over a year now and making steady > >>> gains. Two nights ago I forgot I had put the stainless steel skillet > >>in > >>> a 400 degree oven and grabbed the handle not minutes after taking it > >>> out. The top of my palm and three fingers were bright red and I could > >>> feel blisters forming. Ran cold water on it and looked up People's > >>> Pharmacy on burns. They recommended soy sauce and mustard. Tried the > >>soy > >>> sauce first, but it still burned and really hurt. Coated my hand in > >>> mustard (french's bright yellow -- husband's favorite)for ten minutes > >>> and then washed it off and put it on ice. Had one minor blister and > >>all > >>> the redness was gone. Put more mustard on a bandaid and covered the > >>one > >>> blister and it was gone in the morning leaving behind only a minor > >>> yellow stain. When I think about all the discussion of curcumin and > >>> inflammation, I shouldn't be surprised that it helped, but I am. Will > >>> now increase my son's Enhansa dose again. Started Neuroprotek > >>> > two > >>> > > weeks ago and hearing conversational full spontaneous sentences > >>for > >>> the first time. Truly believe combating inflammation is a key for my > >>> son. > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > >> > >> > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 Oh, and I am sorry to pop in late on this thread in case you already covered it, but how do you figure dosing for cucurmin also? Thanks for any help, > > I will, . OLE was a silver bullet for us 5 yrs ago it just failed to give the wow! this time. I'm really encouraged to be increasing the dose. We were using the same dose we did 5 yrs back at nearly half his current body weight. Thanks so much for throwing that fact out there when you did. My son is about 130lbs and I remember I calculated that to be around 5 NP's per day. I divide the dose. He's had NO burp back from it...nearly unheard of for him! Good luck to you and lets stay in touch. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 ,I can tell you what I've discovered along the way and hopefully this will give you the basis to figure out dosing, etc:1. It's not the dose, it's the concentration of oleoruepin (sp?- active ingredient It needs to be 20%. ( 18% is ok but less effective) many brands have this concentration. The lee silsby pharmacy ones are good- thorne, etc. Swanson sells one I love- super strength 750 mg caps for like 10 bucks. The Barleans liquid OLE complex is really good too- you need less because concentration is high. I use the Super Strength 2 x per day for 62 lb 11 y o along with a dose of either barleans or a silsby OLE. 2. In our house, changing brands periodically helps keep him from developing a resistance.I hope this helps! Sent from my iPhonensoste , I tried to figure from this thread how to come up with OLE dosing, could you advise? We had great response to OLE early on, but are not having much of a response now. Maybe we can increase. THANKS! > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > ÃÆ'‚Â > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > , please keep us posted on the Neuroprotek.ÃÆ'‚Â My > >>son's > >>> doctor recommended this but it would cost us around $80/month - not > >>> something we can easily afford. > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > From: Kay lkwberry@ > >>> > > To: mb12valtrex > >>> > > Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 11:45 AM > >>> > > Subject: Curcumin and Inflammation > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > ÃÆ'‚Â > >>> > > > >>> > > My son has been on Enhansa for over a year now and making steady > >>> gains. Two nights ago I forgot I had put the stainless steel skillet > >>in > >>> a 400 degree oven and grabbed the handle not minutes after taking it > >>> out. The top of my palm and three fingers were bright red and I could > >>> feel blisters forming. Ran cold water on it and looked up People's > >>> Pharmacy on burns. They recommended soy sauce and mustard. Tried the > >>soy > >>> sauce first, but it still burned and really hurt. Coated my hand in > >>> mustard (french's bright yellow -- husband's favorite)for ten minutes > >>> and then washed it off and put it on ice. Had one minor blister and > >>all > >>> the redness was gone. Put more mustard on a bandaid and covered the > >>one > >>> blister and it was gone in the morning leaving behind only a minor > >>> yellow stain. When I think about all the discussion of curcumin and > >>> inflammation, I shouldn't be surprised that it helped, but I am. Will > >>> now increase my son's Enhansa dose again. Started Neuroprotek > >>> > two > >>> > > weeks ago and hearing conversational full spontaneous sentences > >>for > >>> the first time. Truly believe combating inflammation is a key for my > >>> son. > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > >> > >> > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 We have used both curcumin and tumeric. Both worked, and it appears that effectiveness depended more on the dose being high enough as compared to which type we used. We have used various brands, and the dose amount seemed to matter more than which brand. We have used Lutimax. It works really well too. But, for it, we also needed to use enough, so it really didn't work if we tried to be skimpy on it. I think the recommendation is to use a lot the first month, then you can decrease it down slowly. I guess you will be able to see at what point the dose is too low. It comes with directions on how to use. Love and prayers, Heidi N Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 SUPER! Thank you! We were using an 18% one. Thank you for all of the specifics, a big help. > > > > I will, . OLE was a silver bullet for us 5 yrs ago it just failed to give the wow! this time. I'm really encouraged to be increasing the dose. We were using the same dose we did 5 yrs back at nearly half his current body weight. Thanks so much for throwing that fact out there when you did. My son is about 130lbs and I remember I calculated that to be around 5 NP's per day. I divide the dose. He's had NO burp back from it...nearly unheard of for him! Good luck to you and lets stay in touch. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 Hi Heidi,My son is one that is sensitive to almost all naturals.I tried all those brands and all made him sick with starting with very small amounts(about one third caps).Would you say in my case to jump it to a lot more and he would better off,or would you think he should stay away completely? I would love an opinion on this. Thank You,Tammy F. We have used both curcumin and tumeric. Both worked, and it appears that effectiveness depended more on the dose being high enough as compared to which type we used. We have used various brands, and the dose amount seemed to matter more than which brand. We have used Lutimax. It works really well too. But, for it, we also needed to use enough, so it really didn't work if we tried to be skimpy on it. I think the recommendation is to use a lot the first month, then you can decrease it down slowly. I guess you will be able to see at what point the dose is too low. It comes with directions on how to use. Love and prayers, Heidi N Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 Hi Heidi, What dose of curcumin were u using or in other words what dose actually made a difference? is > > Hi Heidi,My son is one that is sensitive to almost all naturals.I tried > all those brands and all made him sick with starting with very small > amounts(about one third caps).Would you say in my case to jump it to a > lot more and he would better off,or would you think he should stay away > completely? I would love an opinion on this. Thank You,Tammy F. > > > > > We have used both curcumin and tumeric. Both worked, and it appears > > that effectiveness depended more on the dose being high enough as > > compared to which type we used. We have used various brands, and the > > dose amount seemed to matter more than which brand. > > > > We have used Lutimax. It works really well too. But, for it, we also > > needed to use enough, so it really didn't work if we tried to be skimpy > > on it. I think the recommendation is to use a lot the first month, then > > you can decrease it down slowly. I guess you will be able to see at > > what point the dose is too low. It comes with directions on how to use. > > > > Love and prayers, > > > > Heidi N > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 Hi everyone I have been reading in to this correspondence with interest ! Interested in Enhansa/circumin inflammation responses, and have pegged it for later use. One thing that puzzles me is the preferential use of OLE when my Biomed Dr says she doesn't want us to use it, as it kills Ecoli, that makes lots of goodies like CoQ10 etc. Has anyone else heard of this? or am I going over old stuff. Sorry if I am. and sorry to butt in. cheers > > > > > > I will, . OLE was a silver bullet for us 5 yrs ago it just failed to give the wow! this time. I'm really encouraged to be increasing the dose. We were using the same dose we did 5 yrs back at nearly half his current body weight. Thanks so much for throwing that fact out there when you did. My son is about 130lbs and I remember I calculated that to be around 5 NP's per day. I divide the dose. He's had NO burp back from it...nearly unheard of for him! Good luck to you and lets stay in touch. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 , I don't think there's such thing as "butting in" here. Share away. I've never heard that. I didn't know ecoli makes coq10. My son tested low for e.coli. I've gotta go snoop around.....thanks! To: mb12valtrex Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 8:26 PMSubject: Re: Curcumin and Inflammation Hi everyoneI have been reading in to this correspondence with interest ! Interested in Enhansa/circumin inflammation responses, and have pegged it for later use.One thing that puzzles me is the preferential use of OLE when my Biomed Dr says she doesn't want us to use it, as it kills Ecoli, that makes lots of goodies like CoQ10 etc. Has anyone else heard of this? or am I going over old stuff. Sorry if I am. and sorry to butt in.cheers> > >> > > I will, . OLE was a silver bullet for us 5 yrs ago it just failed to give the wow! this time. I'm really encouraged to be increasing the dose. We were using the same dose we did 5 yrs back at nearly half his current body weight. Thanks so much for throwing that fact out there when you did. My son is about 130lbs and I remember I calculated that to be around 5 NP's per day. I divide the dose. He's had NO burp back from it...nearly unheard of for him! Good luck to you and lets stay in touch.> > > > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2011 Report Share Posted October 17, 2011 I have not heard of this, but it would certainly be relevant for those with mitochondrial disorder.Sent from my iPhone Hi everyone I have been reading in to this correspondence with interest ! Interested in Enhansa/circumin inflammation responses, and have pegged it for later use. One thing that puzzles me is the preferential use of OLE when my Biomed Dr says she doesn't want us to use it, as it kills Ecoli, that makes lots of goodies like CoQ10 etc. Has anyone else heard of this? or am I going over old stuff. Sorry if I am. and sorry to butt in. cheers > > > > > > I will, . OLE was a silver bullet for us 5 yrs ago it just failed to give the wow! this time. I'm really encouraged to be increasing the dose. We were using the same dose we did 5 yrs back at nearly half his current body weight. Thanks so much for throwing that fact out there when you did. My son is about 130lbs and I remember I calculated that to be around 5 NP's per day. I divide the dose. He's had NO burp back from it...nearly unheard of for him! Good luck to you and lets stay in touch. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2011 Report Share Posted October 17, 2011 Mito issues are suspected in my son given the presentation of certain symptoms outside of his PANDAS cluster, not the least of which is the fact that the older he gets the more he presents like my fibromyalgia patients including significant sensitivity to barometric pressure drops. Maybe a trial of CoQ10 is in order. , thanks for throwing that fact out there. I had no idea about it and will investigate it further. ~ GayleTo: mb12valtrex Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 10:25 AMSubject: Re: Re: Curcumin and Inflammation I have not heard of this, but it would certainly be relevant for those with mitochondrial disorder.Sent from my iPhone Hi everyone I have been reading in to this correspondence with interest ! Interested in Enhansa/circumin inflammation responses, and have pegged it for later use. One thing that puzzles me is the preferential use of OLE when my Biomed Dr says she doesn't want us to use it, as it kills Ecoli, that makes lots of goodies like CoQ10 etc. Has anyone else heard of this? or am I going over old stuff. Sorry if I am. and sorry to butt in. cheers > > > > > > I will, . OLE was a silver bullet for us 5 yrs ago it just failed to give the wow! this time. I'm really encouraged to be increasing the dose. We were using the same dose we did 5 yrs back at nearly half his current body weight. Thanks so much for throwing that fact out there when you did. My son is about 130lbs and I remember I calculated that to be around 5 NP's per day. I divide the dose. He's had NO burp back from it...nearly unheard of for him! Good luck to you and lets stay in touch. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2011 Report Share Posted October 17, 2011 I have noticed the sensitivity to barometric pressure in my son who is 16, he never had a problem with this before but starting in the spring I noticed this. Does CoQ10 help with this? Dianne To: mb12valtrex Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 10:31:31 AMSubject: Re: Re: Curcumin and Inflammation Mito issues are suspected in my son given the presentation of certain symptoms outside of his PANDAS cluster, not the least of which is the fact that the older he gets the more he presents like my fibromyalgia patients including significant sensitivity to barometric pressure drops. Maybe a trial of CoQ10 is in order. , thanks for throwing that fact out there. I had no idea about it and will investigate it further. ~ Gayle To: mb12valtrex Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 10:25 AMSubject: Re: Re: Curcumin and Inflammation I have not heard of this, but it would certainly be relevant for those with mitochondrial disorder.Sent from my iPhone Hi everyoneI have been reading in to this correspondence with interest ! Interested in Enhansa/circumin inflammation responses, and have pegged it for later use.One thing that puzzles me is the preferential use of OLE when my Biomed Dr says she doesn't want us to use it, as it kills Ecoli, that makes lots of goodies like CoQ10 etc. Has anyone else heard of this? or am I going over old stuff. Sorry if I am. and sorry to butt in.cheers> > >> > > I will, . OLE was a silver bullet for us 5 yrs ago it just failed to give the wow! this time. I'm really encouraged to be increasing the dose. We were using the same dose we did 5 yrs back at nearly half his current body weight. Thanks so much for throwing that fact out there when you did. My son is about 130lbs and I remember I calculated that to be around 5 NP's per day. I divide the dose. He's had NO burp back from it...nearly unheard of for him! Good luck to you and lets stay in touch.> > > > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2011 Report Share Posted October 17, 2011 I used to be pretty much bedridden every time it was about to rain. I accidentaly discovered that when I take Goji capsules (real fruit in capsules like a herb), I don't have this problem. It doesn't work right away in that I can not take it after symptoms start and expect to get well 20 minutes later, but if I take it daily, like a preventative, the weather no longer effects me. I have no idea why. No other supplement has ever done this, and I have tried many. It's more than just the anti-inflammatory effect. I have another family member who takes Goji everyday to avoid getting migraines when it rains. It's darn right amazing. I no longer have to fear the rain. When I run out, the symptoms return, so it's definitely working. Love and prayers, Heidi N I have noticed the sensitivity to barometric pressure in my son who is 16, he never had a problem with this before but starting in the spring I noticed this. Does CoQ10 help with this? Dianne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2011 Report Share Posted October 17, 2011 My son never had this sensitivity until this last PANDAS exacerbation. He was just about to turn 16 when it happened. Now there is an indisputable link between the weather and his symptom presentation...anxiety, ocd, gut pain (inflammatory). Epsom salts baths help and even tho the kid vehemently denies the weather has anything to do with it (I have the med journals that prove otherwise), he will draw himself a bath now at the first sign of his symptoms returning especially on cold, rainy, unstable weather days. He will also ask for Advil and when I ask if he has a headache, he'll say, "No, I just don't feel right." He's learned that on more challenging days the advil does help take the edge off. Bach's Rescue Remedy spray is in his backpack for school. He's finally starting to get it that Bach's isn't a silver bullet but it can give him the little help he needs to get through some days. It doesn't always work but I'm overjoyed to see him applying measures to mediate anxiety rather than just going down like a sinking ship. All of this has only come about in the last year or so as he's gotten older. I'll do some digging on CoQ10 within my highly educated fibromyalgia client base and will post it if I learn anything of value. To: mb12valtrex Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 10:37 AMSubject: Re: Re: Curcumin and Inflammation I have noticed the sensitivity to barometric pressure in my son who is 16, he never had a problem with this before but starting in the spring I noticed this. Does CoQ10 help with this? Dianne To: mb12valtrex Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 10:31:31 AMSubject: Re: Re: Curcumin and Inflammation Mito issues are suspected in my son given the presentation of certain symptoms outside of his PANDAS cluster, not the least of which is the fact that the older he gets the more he presents like my fibromyalgia patients including significant sensitivity to barometric pressure drops. Maybe a trial of CoQ10 is in order. , thanks for throwing that fact out there. I had no idea about it and will investigate it further. ~ Gayle To: mb12valtrex Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 10:25 AMSubject: Re: Re: Curcumin and Inflammation I have not heard of this, but it would certainly be relevant for those with mitochondrial disorder.Sent from my iPhone Hi everyoneI have been reading in to this correspondence with interest ! Interested in Enhansa/circumin inflammation responses, and have pegged it for later use.One thing that puzzles me is the preferential use of OLE when my Biomed Dr says she doesn't want us to use it, as it kills Ecoli, that makes lots of goodies like CoQ10 etc. Has anyone else heard of this? or am I going over old stuff. Sorry if I am. and sorry to butt in.cheers> > >> > > I will, . OLE was a silver bullet for us 5 yrs ago it just failed to give the wow! this time. I'm really encouraged to be increasing the dose. We were using the same dose we did 5 yrs back at nearly half his current body weight. Thanks so much for throwing that fact out there when you did. My son is about 130lbs and I remember I calculated that to be around 5 NP's per day. I divide the dose. He's had NO burp back from it...nearly unheard of for him! Good luck to you and lets stay in touch.> > > > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2011 Report Share Posted October 17, 2011 Heidi, where do you get the caps?To: mb12valtrex Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 10:48 AMSubject: Re: Curcumin and Inflammation I used to be pretty much bedridden every time it was about to rain. I accidentaly discovered that when I take Goji capsules (real fruit in capsules like a herb), I don't have this problem. It doesn't work right away in that I can not take it after symptoms start and expect to get well 20 minutes later, but if I take it daily, like a preventative, the weather no longer effects me. I have no idea why. No other supplement has ever done this, and I have tried many. It's more than just the anti-inflammatory effect. I have another family member who takes Goji everyday to avoid getting migraines when it rains. It's darn right amazing. I no longer have to fear the rain. When I run out, the symptoms return, so it's definitely working. Love and prayers, Heidi N I have noticed the sensitivity to barometric pressure in my son who is 16, he never had a problem with this before but starting in the spring I noticed this. Does CoQ10 help with this? Dianne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2011 Report Share Posted October 17, 2011 Please do Gayle! The barometric pressure thing got better for our son when we improved his methylation with the MB 12 shots. It used to be awful!Sent from my iPhone My son never had this sensitivity until this last PANDAS exacerbation. He was just about to turn 16 when it happened. Now there is an indisputable link between the weather and his symptom presentation...anxiety, ocd, gut pain (inflammatory). Epsom salts baths help and even tho the kid vehemently denies the weather has anything to do with it (I have the med journals that prove otherwise), he will draw himself a bath now at the first sign of his symptoms returning especially on cold, rainy, unstable weather days. He will also ask for Advil and when I ask if he has a headache, he'll say, "No, I just don't feel right." He's learned that on more challenging days the advil does help take the edge off. Bach's Rescue Remedy spray is in his backpack for school. He's finally starting to get it that Bach's isn't a silver bullet but it can give him the little help he needs to get through some days. It doesn't always work but I'm overjoyed to see him applying measures to mediate anxiety rather than just going down like a sinking ship. All of this has only come about in the last year or so as he's gotten older. I'll do some digging on CoQ10 within my highly educated fibromyalgia client base and will post it if I learn anything of value. To: mb12valtrex Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 10:37 AMSubject: Re: Re: Curcumin and Inflammation I have noticed the sensitivity to barometric pressure in my son who is 16, he never had a problem with this before but starting in the spring I noticed this. Does CoQ10 help with this? Dianne To: mb12valtrex Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 10:31:31 AMSubject: Re: Re: Curcumin and Inflammation Mito issues are suspected in my son given the presentation of certain symptoms outside of his PANDAS cluster, not the least of which is the fact that the older he gets the more he presents like my fibromyalgia patients including significant sensitivity to barometric pressure drops. Maybe a trial of CoQ10 is in order. , thanks for throwing that fact out there. I had no idea about it and will investigate it further. ~ Gayle To: mb12valtrex Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 10:25 AMSubject: Re: Re: Curcumin and Inflammation I have not heard of this, but it would certainly be relevant for those with mitochondrial disorder.Sent from my iPhone Hi everyoneI have been reading in to this correspondence with interest ! Interested in Enhansa/circumin inflammation responses, and have pegged it for later use.One thing that puzzles me is the preferential use of OLE when my Biomed Dr says she doesn't want us to use it, as it kills Ecoli, that makes lots of goodies like CoQ10 etc. Has anyone else heard of this? or am I going over old stuff. Sorry if I am. and sorry to butt in.cheers> > >> > > I will, . OLE was a silver bullet for us 5 yrs ago it just failed to give the wow! this time. I'm really encouraged to be increasing the dose. We were using the same dose we did 5 yrs back at nearly half his current body weight. Thanks so much for throwing that fact out there when you did. My son is about 130lbs and I remember I calculated that to be around 5 NP's per day. I divide the dose. He's had NO burp back from it...nearly unheard of for him! Good luck to you and lets stay in touch.> > > > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2011 Report Share Posted October 17, 2011 Could it also be mold allergy? My son has thus and I definitely see a worsening of symptoms on very rainy days. RuthSent from my iPhone My son never had this sensitivity until this last PANDAS exacerbation. He was just about to turn 16 when it happened. Now there is an indisputable link between the weather and his symptom presentation...anxiety, ocd, gut pain (inflammatory). Epsom salts baths help and even tho the kid vehemently denies the weather has anything to do with it (I have the med journals that prove otherwise), he will draw himself a bath now at the first sign of his symptoms returning especially on cold, rainy, unstable weather days. He will also ask for Advil and when I ask if he has a headache, he'll say, "No, I just don't feel right." He's learned that on more challenging days the advil does help take the edge off. Bach's Rescue Remedy spray is in his backpack for school. He's finally starting to get it that Bach's isn't a silver bullet but it can give him the little help he needs to get through some days. It doesn't always work but I'm overjoyed to see him applying measures to mediate anxiety rather than just going down like a sinking ship. All of this has only come about in the last year or so as he's gotten older. I'll do some digging on CoQ10 within my highly educated fibromyalgia client base and will post it if I learn anything of value. To: mb12valtrex Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 10:37 AMSubject: Re: Re: Curcumin and Inflammation I have noticed the sensitivity to barometric pressure in my son who is 16, he never had a problem with this before but starting in the spring I noticed this. Does CoQ10 help with this? Dianne To: mb12valtrex Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 10:31:31 AMSubject: Re: Re: Curcumin and Inflammation Mito issues are suspected in my son given the presentation of certain symptoms outside of his PANDAS cluster, not the least of which is the fact that the older he gets the more he presents like my fibromyalgia patients including significant sensitivity to barometric pressure drops. Maybe a trial of CoQ10 is in order. , thanks for throwing that fact out there. I had no idea about it and will investigate it further. ~ Gayle To: mb12valtrex Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 10:25 AMSubject: Re: Re: Curcumin and Inflammation I have not heard of this, but it would certainly be relevant for those with mitochondrial disorder.Sent from my iPhone Hi everyoneI have been reading in to this correspondence with interest ! Interested in Enhansa/circumin inflammation responses, and have pegged it for later use.One thing that puzzles me is the preferential use of OLE when my Biomed Dr says she doesn't want us to use it, as it kills Ecoli, that makes lots of goodies like CoQ10 etc. Has anyone else heard of this? or am I going over old stuff. Sorry if I am. and sorry to butt in.cheers> > >> > > I will, . OLE was a silver bullet for us 5 yrs ago it just failed to give the wow! this time. I'm really encouraged to be increasing the dose. We were using the same dose we did 5 yrs back at nearly half his current body weight. Thanks so much for throwing that fact out there when you did. My son is about 130lbs and I remember I calculated that to be around 5 NP's per day. I divide the dose. He's had NO burp back from it...nearly unheard of for him! Good luck to you and lets stay in touch.> > > > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2011 Report Share Posted October 17, 2011 For us it was the pressure and not the humidity. Sent from my iPhone Could it also be mold allergy? My son has thus and I definitely see a worsening of symptoms on very rainy days. RuthSent from my iPhone My son never had this sensitivity until this last PANDAS exacerbation. He was just about to turn 16 when it happened. Now there is an indisputable link between the weather and his symptom presentation...anxiety, ocd, gut pain (inflammatory). Epsom salts baths help and even tho the kid vehemently denies the weather has anything to do with it (I have the med journals that prove otherwise), he will draw himself a bath now at the first sign of his symptoms returning especially on cold, rainy, unstable weather days. He will also ask for Advil and when I ask if he has a headache, he'll say, "No, I just don't feel right." He's learned that on more challenging days the advil does help take the edge off. Bach's Rescue Remedy spray is in his backpack for school. He's finally starting to get it that Bach's isn't a silver bullet but it can give him the little help he needs to get through some days. It doesn't always work but I'm overjoyed to see him applying measures to mediate anxiety rather than just going down like a sinking ship. All of this has only come about in the last year or so as he's gotten older. I'll do some digging on CoQ10 within my highly educated fibromyalgia client base and will post it if I learn anything of value. To: mb12valtrex Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 10:37 AMSubject: Re: Re: Curcumin and Inflammation I have noticed the sensitivity to barometric pressure in my son who is 16, he never had a problem with this before but starting in the spring I noticed this. Does CoQ10 help with this? Dianne To: mb12valtrex Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 10:31:31 AMSubject: Re: Re: Curcumin and Inflammation Mito issues are suspected in my son given the presentation of certain symptoms outside of his PANDAS cluster, not the least of which is the fact that the older he gets the more he presents like my fibromyalgia patients including significant sensitivity to barometric pressure drops. Maybe a trial of CoQ10 is in order. , thanks for throwing that fact out there. I had no idea about it and will investigate it further. ~ Gayle To: mb12valtrex Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 10:25 AMSubject: Re: Re: Curcumin and Inflammation I have not heard of this, but it would certainly be relevant for those with mitochondrial disorder.Sent from my iPhone Hi everyoneI have been reading in to this correspondence with interest ! Interested in Enhansa/circumin inflammation responses, and have pegged it for later use.One thing that puzzles me is the preferential use of OLE when my Biomed Dr says she doesn't want us to use it, as it kills Ecoli, that makes lots of goodies like CoQ10 etc. Has anyone else heard of this? or am I going over old stuff. Sorry if I am. and sorry to butt in.cheers> > >> > > I will, . OLE was a silver bullet for us 5 yrs ago it just failed to give the wow! this time. I'm really encouraged to be increasing the dose. We were using the same dose we did 5 yrs back at nearly half his current body weight. Thanks so much for throwing that fact out there when you did. My son is about 130lbs and I remember I calculated that to be around 5 NP's per day. I divide the dose. He's had NO burp back from it...nearly unheard of for him! Good luck to you and lets stay in touch.> > > > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2011 Report Share Posted October 17, 2011 Just go to your favorite place to buy herbs and supplements, and they will probably sell Goji in capsules, just like it was a herb or something. Love and prayers, Heidi N Heidi, where do you get the caps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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