Guest guest Posted December 20, 2008 Report Share Posted December 20, 2008 I'm looking for some information. If you arrive on scene of an MVC and begin treatment on a patient. And that patient is flown from the scene by air-ambulance. Can you bill the patient for services you provided? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2008 Report Share Posted December 20, 2008 You can bill for those type of scenes from what I understand. If you put them in the back of your unit and transport them to the LZ site. This means if the unit drives 5 feet then you can bill for that and they indicate that movement on their run record. If anybody has any different please do not hesitate to tell me differently. Thanks, Binkley Director of Operations/Special Operations Allyn Medical Services Houston, TX Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry Scene Flights I'm looking for some information. If you arrive on scene of an MVC and begin treatment on a patient. And that patient is flown from the scene by air-ambulance. Can you bill the patient for services you provided? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2008 Report Share Posted December 20, 2008 OK, first of all let me say I am not a billing expert. My understanding is that if a peron is airlifted from a scene, the EMS agency can not bill for a transport. The agency can bill for a aid call but not an actual transport even if you transported to a remote LZ. I am not sure of this but it is my understanding. If I am not correct I apologize. Mike Shown > > I'm looking for some information. If you arrive on scene of an MVC and > begin treatment on a patient. And that patient is flown from the scene > by air-ambulance. Can you bill the patient for services you provided? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2008 Report Share Posted December 20, 2008 Unless things have changed in the 12 years I've been doing this, you can bill if you transport. Like the others have said even if it's a short transport. I don't think I would actually document 5 ft though. As with any services their shortest documented transport is 1 mile. --- Lowan wrote: > I'm looking for some information. If you arrive on > scene of an MVC and > begin treatment on a patient. And that patient is > flown from the scene > by air-ambulance. Can you bill the patient for > services you provided? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2008 Report Share Posted December 20, 2008 Yes I agree to that, just giving a phrase. Binkley Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry Re: Scene Flights Unless things have changed in the 12 years I've been doing this, you can bill if you transport. Like the others have said even if it's a short transport. I don't think I would actually document 5 ft though. As with any services their shortest documented transport is 1 mile. --- Lowan wrote: > I'm looking for some information. If you arrive on > scene of an MVC and > begin treatment on a patient. And that patient is > flown from the scene > by air-ambulance. Can you bill the patient for > services you provided? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2008 Report Share Posted December 21, 2008 To answer the original question...you can bill for your services no matter what.? If you are going to bill for a " transport " then you should have transported...i.e. the big black round things should have turned... Getting it paid is another matter.? VERY few insurances will pay for anything but a transport (a huge problem with our industry today) but you can surely bill the patient for your services provided prior to the aircraft taking them. Although we have only used an aircraft 6 times this calendar year....we have billed all patients for the services we provided. Dudley Re: Scene Flights Unless things have changed in the 12 years I've been doing this, you can bill if you transport. Like the others have said even if it's a short transport. I don't think I would actually document 5 ft though. As with any services their shortest documented transport is 1 mile. --- Lowan wrote: > I'm looking for some information. If you arrive on > scene of an MVC and > begin treatment on a patient. And that patient is > flown from the scene > by air-ambulance. Can you bill the patient for > services you provided? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2008 Report Share Posted December 21, 2008 Dudley, Did you get paid for the 6 jobs? Louis N. Molino, Sr. CET FF/NREMT/FSI/EMSI Typed by my fingers on my iPhone. Please excuse any typo's (Cell) LNMolino@... > To answer the original question...you can bill for your services no > matter what.? If you are going to bill for a " transport " then you > should have transported...i.e. the big black round things should > have turned... > > Getting it paid is another matter.? VERY few insurances will pay for > anything but a transport (a huge problem with our industry today) > but you can surely bill the patient for your services provided prior > to the aircraft taking them. > > Although we have only used an aircraft 6 times this calendar > year....we have billed all patients for the services we provided. > > Dudley > > > Re: Scene Flights > > Unless things have changed in the 12 years I've been > doing this, you can bill if you transport. Like the > others have said even if it's a short transport. I > don't think I would actually document 5 ft though. As > with any services their shortest documented transport > is 1 mile. > --- Lowan wrote: > >> I'm looking for some information. If you arrive on >> scene of an MVC and >> begin treatment on a patient. And that patient is >> flown from the scene >> by air-ambulance. Can you bill the patient for >> services you provided? >> >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2008 Report Share Posted December 22, 2008 Not from insurance....but we have recovered some from the patients....I would have to check to see how much....but I figure it isn't a whole bunch. Dud Re: Scene Flights > > Unless things have changed in the 12 years I've been > doing this, you can bill if you transport. Like the > others have said even if it's a short transport. I > don't think I would actually document 5 ft though. As > with any services their shortest documented transport > is 1 mile. > --- Lowan wrote: > >> I'm looking for some information. If you arrive on >> scene of an MVC and >> begin treatment on a patient. And that patient is >> flown from the scene >> by air-ambulance. Can you bill the patient for >> services you provided? >> >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2008 Report Share Posted December 22, 2008 That's what I figured. Thanks. Louis N. Molino, Sr., CET FF/NREMT-B/FSI/EMSI Freelance Consultant/Trainer/Author/Journalist/Fire Protection Consultant LNMolino@... (Cell Phone) (Home Phone) (IFW/TFW/FSS Office) (IFW/TFW/FSS Fax) " A Texan with a Jersey Attitude " " Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people " Eleanor Roosevelt - US diplomat & reformer (1884 - 1962) The comments contained in this E-mail are the opinions of the author and the author alone. I in no way ever intend to speak for any person or organization that I am in any way whatsoever involved or associated with unless I specifically state that I am doing so. Further this E-mail is intended only for its stated recipient and may contain private and or confidential materials retransmission is strictly prohibited unless placed in the public domain by the original author. In a message dated 12/22/2008 8:39:43 A.M. Central Standard Time, THEDUDMAN@... writes: Not from insurance....but we have recovered some from the patients....I would have to check to see how much....but I figure it isn't a whole bunch. Dud Re: Scene Flights > > Unless things have changed in the 12 years I've been > doing this, you can bill if you transport. Like the > others have said even if it's a short transport. I > don't think I would actually document 5 ft though. As > with any services their shortest documented transport > is 1 mile. > --- Lowan wrote: > >> I'm looking for some information. If you arrive on >> scene of an MVC and >> begin treatment on a patient. And that patient is >> flown from the scene >> by air-ambulance. Can you bill the patient for >> services you provided? >> >> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links **************One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp & icid=aolcom40vanity & ncid=emlcntaolcom00000025) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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