Re: cheryl: Dr Goldberg?

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thank you cheryl,You are right ,but since my son never responded to anything(even valtrex and antifungal) do you think Dr G's protocol might be a good jump start for him since I learned recently that his root cause is probably Brain inflammation and virus ?your input is much appreciatedLili To:

mb12valtrex Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 3:37 PM Subject: Re: Dr Goldberg?

Because Dr. G doesn't play well with others.My son saw him for 1.5 years and it was fine until the SSRIs came in. Totally disaster. And that's why most people don't use his protocol. There's certainly more to it than that, he doesn't address a lot of issues our kids have. His protocol works for a small set of kids. My son was most definitely not one of them. I know more people that have started and left than started and stayed.The best the thing Dr. G did for my son, the only things that did anything really were: antibiotics (erythromycin) for a year (sooooo good for him!), antivirals and antifungals. Everything else either did nothing or produced negatives. SSRIs slowly made my son psychotic of the course of a year.

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Hi guys,

I know this subject comes up often but I just want to know if any of you know why no other Dr is following De G's protocol. we just don't see the result with DAN and now are thinking about changing to Dr Goldberg but this is a red flag for us.

also anybody had a bad experience with him?

TIA

Lili

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I certainly always think it's possible. If you've tried DAN and feel confident that you gave it a really good go, there's no reason not to try another protocol. You're not marrying him and can leave if you need to.Give it a shot. have you had your DAN try you out on antivirals and antifungals?

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thank you cheryl,You are right ,but since my son never responded to anything(even valtrex and antifungal) do you think Dr G's protocol might be a good jump start for him since I learned recently that his root cause is probably Brain inflammation and virus ?your input is much appreciatedLili To:

mb12valtrex Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 3:37 PM Subject: Re: Dr Goldberg?

Because Dr. G doesn't play well with others.My son saw him for 1.5 years and it was fine until the SSRIs came in. Totally disaster. And that's why most people don't use his protocol. There's certainly more to it than that, he doesn't address a lot of issues our kids have. His protocol works for a small set of kids. My son was most definitely not one of them. I know more people that have started and left than started and stayed.The best the thing Dr. G did for my son, the only things that did anything really were: antibiotics (erythromycin) for a year (sooooo good for him!), antivirals and antifungals. Everything else either did nothing or produced negatives. SSRIs slowly made my son psychotic of the course of a year.

<PastedGraphic-3.tiff>~ Antiviral Therapy 101~~ Make a biomed book ~~ gryffinstail.wordpress.com ~~ @Gryffins_Tail ~

Hi guys,

I know this subject comes up often but I just want to know if any of you know why no other Dr is following De G's protocol. we just don't see the result with DAN and now are thinking about changing to Dr Goldberg but this is a red flag for us.

also anybody had a bad experience with him?

TIA

Lili

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Thanks cheryl,Our DAN tried antiviral(valtrex 500x3 a day) and antifungal( we tried diflucan and ketoconozol) and we saw nothing from it, my question is does this mean that Dr G's protocol won't work or he has more to offer?Thanks again Lili To: mb12valtrex Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2012 12:11 PM Subject: Re: cheryl: Dr Goldberg?

I certainly always think it's possible. If you've tried DAN and feel confident that you gave it a really good go, there's no reason not to try another protocol. You're not marrying him and can leave if you need to.Give it a shot. have you had your DAN try you out on antivirals and antifungals?

~ Antiviral Therapy 101~~ Make a biomed book ~~ gryffinstail.wordpress.com ~~ @Gryffins_Tail ~

thank you cheryl,You are right ,but since my son never responded to anything(even valtrex and antifungal) do you think Dr G's protocol might be a good jump start for him since I learned recently that his root cause is probably Brain inflammation and virus ?your input is much appreciatedLili To:

mb12valtrex Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 3:37 PM Subject: Re: Dr Goldberg?

Because Dr. G doesn't play well with others.My son saw him for 1.5 years and it was fine until the SSRIs came in. Totally disaster. And that's why most people don't use his protocol. There's certainly more to it than that, he doesn't address a lot of issues our kids have. His protocol works for a small set of kids. My son was most definitely not one of them. I know more people that have started and left than started and stayed.The best the thing Dr. G did for my son, the only things that did anything really were: antibiotics (erythromycin) for a year (sooooo good for him!), antivirals and antifungals. Everything else either did nothing or produced negatives. SSRIs slowly made my son psychotic of the course of a year.

<PastedGraphic-3.tiff>~ Antiviral Therapy 101~~ Make a biomed book ~~ gryffinstail.wordpress.com ~~ @Gryffins_Tail ~

Hi guys,

I know this subject comes up often but I just want to know if any of you know why no other Dr is following De G's protocol. we just don't see the result with DAN and now are thinking about changing to Dr Goldberg but this is a red flag for us.

also anybody had a bad experience with him?

TIA

Lili

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Well, he will start SSRIs so yes, there's more to offer. He'll do the NIDS diet and there's a few other things that he does. Not much more but some. He might start you on Tenex, too. Or antibiotics. He'll do some more testing.A big part of why people see gains from him after leaving DAN is because their kids need LESS, not more. And Dr. G does less.Plus he takes some insurance (not all) so it might be cheaper. That always helps make it easier to decide to give it a shot - you won't be paying nearly as much and who complains about NOT spending money?

~ Antiviral Therapy 101~~ Make a biomed book ~~ gryffinstail.wordpress.com ~~ @Gryffins_Tail ~

Thanks cheryl,Our DAN tried antiviral(valtrex 500x3 a day) and antifungal( we tried diflucan and ketoconozol) and we saw nothing from it, my question is does this mean that Dr G's protocol won't work or he has more to offer?Thanks again Lili To: mb12valtrex Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2012 12:11 PM Subject: Re: cheryl: Dr Goldberg?

I certainly always think it's possible. If you've tried DAN and feel confident that you gave it a really good go, there's no reason not to try another protocol. You're not marrying him and can leave if you need to.Give it a shot. have you had your DAN try you out on antivirals and antifungals?

<PastedGraphic-3.tiff>~ Antiviral Therapy 101~~ Make a biomed book ~~ gryffinstail.wordpress.com ~~ @Gryffins_Tail ~

thank you cheryl,You are right ,but since my son never responded to anything(even valtrex and antifungal) do you think Dr G's protocol might be a good jump start for him since I learned recently that his root cause is probably Brain inflammation and virus ?your input is much appreciatedLili To:

mb12valtrex Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 3:37 PM Subject: Re: Dr Goldberg?

Because Dr. G doesn't play well with others.My son saw him for 1.5 years and it was fine until the SSRIs came in. Totally disaster. And that's why most people don't use his protocol. There's certainly more to it than that, he doesn't address a lot of issues our kids have. His protocol works for a small set of kids. My son was most definitely not one of them. I know more people that have started and left than started and stayed.The best the thing Dr. G did for my son, the only things that did anything really were: antibiotics (erythromycin) for a year (sooooo good for him!), antivirals and antifungals. Everything else either did nothing or produced negatives. SSRIs slowly made my son psychotic of the course of a year.

<PastedGraphic-3.tiff>~ Antiviral Therapy 101~~ Make a biomed book ~~ gryffinstail.wordpress.com ~~ @Gryffins_Tail ~

Hi guys,

I know this subject comes up often but I just want to know if any of you know why no other Dr is following De G's protocol. we just don't see the result with DAN and now are thinking about changing to Dr Goldberg but this is a red flag for us.

also anybody had a bad experience with him?

TIA

Lili

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Lili,

Our DAN tried the anitviral and anti fungal too. We really did not see anything either. I just think that when we were seeing Dr. Kartzinel, he did not keep my son on the antiviral long enough or at the correct dose. The first thing Dr. Goldberg will recommend is the viral panel, immune panel and other tests as well. I would have the tests and see what your child's results indicate. I have heard there can be stealth viruses that do not show up but for my son, he had one of the viruses. We are seeing improvements in him only 2 months in antiviral therapy. However, its not just about viruses. There are many other issues going on in there bodies that need to be addressed. It is hard to find one doc to treat all aspects of their complex illness. For us, I do not feel that Dr. G addressed all of the things going on with my

son. I like first and second and third opinions before deciding on a treatment. I would strongly recommend Dr. Kurt Woeller. He is the first doc who addresses all of the issues tailored to your childs illness. I am so over docs who have their idea of how things should be done with no straying from the path! Every child is different and their treatment plan should be modeled in accordance to their lab results and symptoms. Dr. Woeller also answers your questions and if he does not know, he researches until he finds the answer. He is great! We have seen all of the big names as far as DAN docs and Dr. Woeller is the first doc who is not arrogant and really cares. Wishing you sucess in healing. Kerri

To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2012 4:26 PMSubject: Re: cheryl: Dr Goldberg?

Thanks cheryl,

Our DAN tried antiviral(valtrex 500x3 a day) and antifungal( we tried diflucan and ketoconozol) and we saw nothing from it, my question is does this mean that Dr G's protocol won't work or he has more to offer?

Thanks again

Lili

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2012 12:11 PMSubject: Re: cheryl: Dr Goldberg?

I certainly always think it's possible. If you've tried DAN and feel confident that you gave it a really good go, there's no reason not to try another protocol. You're not marrying him and can leave if you need to.

Give it a shot. have you had your DAN try you out on antivirals and antifungals?

~ Antiviral Therapy 101~

~ Make a biomed book ~

~ gryffinstail.wordpress.com ~

~ @Gryffins_Tail ~

thank you cheryl,

You are right ,but since my son never responded to anything(even valtrex and antifungal) do you think Dr G's protocol might be a good jump start for him since I learned recently that his root cause is probably Brain inflammation and virus ?

your input is much appreciated

Lili

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 3:37 PMSubject: Re: Dr Goldberg?

Because Dr. G doesn't play well with others.

My son saw him for 1.5 years and it was fine until the SSRIs came in. Totally disaster. And that's why most people don't use his protocol. There's certainly more to it than that, he doesn't address a lot of issues our kids have. His protocol works for a small set of kids. My son was most definitely not one of them. I know more people that have started and left than started and stayed.

The best the thing Dr. G did for my son, the only things that did anything really were: antibiotics (erythromycin) for a year (sooooo good for him!), antivirals and antifungals. Everything else either did nothing or produced negatives. SSRIs slowly made my son psychotic of the course of a year.

<PastedGraphic-3.tiff>~ Antiviral Therapy 101~

~ Make a biomed book ~

~ gryffinstail.wordpress.com ~

~ @Gryffins_Tail ~

Hi guys,I know this subject comes up often but I just want to know if any of you know why no other Dr is following De G's protocol. we just don't see the result with DAN and now are thinking about changing to Dr Goldberg but this is a red flag for us.also anybody had a bad experience with him?TIALili

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Hi,kerri

May I know where dr.kurt woeler practicing?

Does your son recovery with him?

Thanks

Kath

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>My son saw him for 1.5 years and it was fine until the SSRIs came in. Totally

disaster. And that's why most people don't use his protocol. There's certainly

more to it than that, he doesn't address a lot of issues our kids have. His

protocol works for a small set of kids. My son was most definitely not one of

them. I know more people that have started and left than started and stayed.

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>The best the thing Dr. G did for my son, the only things that did anything

really were: antibiotics (erythromycin) for a year (sooooo good for him!),

antivirals and antifungals. Everything else either did nothing or produced

negatives. SSRIs slowly made my son psychotic of the course of a year.

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>~ Antiviral Therapy 101~

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>>Hi guys,

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>>I know this subject comes up often but I just want to know if any of you know

why no other Dr is following De G's protocol. we just don't see the result with

DAN and now are thinking about changing to Dr Goldberg but this is a red flag

for us.

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>>also anybody had a bad experience with him?

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>>TIA

>>Lili

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