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I have come to the realization that my nada doesn't give a sh*t about whether I

am in her life. As she gets older and sicker (she has 2 types of cancer), I see

her BPD behaviours getting worse towards me. I am the scapegoated child who has

given most of her like to helping her and caring for her. I am NC with both of

my brothers as one has NPD and the other is highly abusive.

I see the more I do for her, or don't do doesn't matter because she actually

displays open hatred for me these days....she seems to go out of her way more

and more to ensure that she praises her golden sons to the hilt when I am around

her and then villifies me for everything I am or do.

I believe Annie's post this last February really sums up my situation: she

" treats the mostly Scapegoated Child (ME) with disrespect and barely concealed

hostility, even though my Sister had been the one right there helping nada,

caring for her, and physically being there for nada for 10+ years. "

I have played with being NC with her up until now but it is difficult becuase my

2 cats live with her - I still have not been able to secure a place that I can

afford for the cats to be with me. I will not leave them with her and I have to

check on a daily basis if they are OK.

Lately I have been embarking on a job search in a new field and I am trying to

find a completely new location to be able to take my cats and get the hell away

from my sick toxic family. The process is furstratingly slow and I am hindered

by very limited income for a long distance move and I am on my own. I so

deperately want NC with her, I am not sure how to speed this up.

The stress I feel some days is overwhelming - is this one of those examples that

it has to get really bad before it can get better????

Koko

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Hi Koko,

I believe everything will fall into place. Yes, for some reason life if throwing

you some nasty curve balls that seem an unending trial. I would feel very badly

if my pets could not live with me. As for nada, do what you must to keep your

conscience clear after she is gone, and try not to listen to her rantings.

I imagine your nada is focusing on you simply because you are the one who has

been there. She hates herself, so she disdains the ones who treat her as if she

has any value. I know, mixed up thinking.

Keep trying hun. <hugs>

Echo

>

> I have come to the realization that my nada doesn't give a sh*t about whether

I am in her life. As she gets older and sicker (she has 2 types of cancer), I

see her BPD behaviours getting worse towards me. I am the scapegoated child who

has given most of her like to helping her and caring for her. I am NC with both

of my brothers as one has NPD and the other is highly abusive.

>

> I see the more I do for her, or don't do doesn't matter because she actually

displays open hatred for me these days....she seems to go out of her way more

and more to ensure that she praises her golden sons to the hilt when I am around

her and then villifies me for everything I am or do.

>

> I believe Annie's post this last February really sums up my situation: she

" treats the mostly Scapegoated Child (ME) with disrespect and barely concealed

hostility, even though my Sister had been the one right there helping nada,

caring for her, and physically being there for nada for 10+ years. "

>

>

> I have played with being NC with her up until now but it is difficult becuase

my 2 cats live with her - I still have not been able to secure a place that I

can afford for the cats to be with me. I will not leave them with her and I have

to check on a daily basis if they are OK.

>

> Lately I have been embarking on a job search in a new field and I am trying to

find a completely new location to be able to take my cats and get the hell away

from my sick toxic family. The process is furstratingly slow and I am hindered

by very limited income for a long distance move and I am on my own. I so

deperately want NC with her, I am not sure how to speed this up.

>

> The stress I feel some days is overwhelming - is this one of those examples

that it has to get really bad before it can get better????

>

> Koko

>

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Thanks Echo - I appreciate what you said.

Koko

> >

> > I have come to the realization that my nada doesn't give a sh*t about

whether I am in her life. As she gets older and sicker (she has 2 types of

cancer), I see her BPD behaviours getting worse towards me. I am the

scapegoated child who has given most of her like to helping her and caring for

her. I am NC with both of my brothers as one has NPD and the other is highly

abusive.

> >

> > I see the more I do for her, or don't do doesn't matter because she actually

displays open hatred for me these days....she seems to go out of her way more

and more to ensure that she praises her golden sons to the hilt when I am around

her and then villifies me for everything I am or do.

> >

> > I believe Annie's post this last February really sums up my situation: she

" treats the mostly Scapegoated Child (ME) with disrespect and barely concealed

hostility, even though my Sister had been the one right there helping nada,

caring for her, and physically being there for nada for 10+ years. "

> >

> >

> > I have played with being NC with her up until now but it is difficult

becuase my 2 cats live with her - I still have not been able to secure a place

that I can afford for the cats to be with me. I will not leave them with her and

I have to check on a daily basis if they are OK.

> >

> > Lately I have been embarking on a job search in a new field and I am trying

to find a completely new location to be able to take my cats and get the hell

away from my sick toxic family. The process is furstratingly slow and I am

hindered by very limited income for a long distance move and I am on my own. I

so deperately want NC with her, I am not sure how to speed this up.

> >

> > The stress I feel some days is overwhelming - is this one of those examples

that it has to get really bad before it can get better????

> >

> > Koko

> >

>

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That does sound frustrating!

If your goal is to control someone else's behavior--in other words, if you

expect your boundaries to teach your BPDer to respect you and care how you feel

and see you as an independent person--then no, they don't work. If you expect

them to listen and remember and do what you say, then no, they won't work.

If, on the other hand, your goal is to take care of yourself and honor your own

needs *whether or not* anybody else does, then, yes, they can work quite well.

We can't control what other people do, only what we do.

Goal that will fail: Get BPD to stop calling me after 9 pm.

Goal that will succeed: Turn off my ringers after 9 pm.

Goal that will fail: Get BPD to understand that it hurts me when she calls me

names.

Goal that will succeed: Leave or hang up when anyone calls me names.

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Well said!

Boundaries are for the person who sets them, not for the other

person. They are there to define to yourself what you will and

won't put up with and what you'll do when someone transgresses

them.

At 07:21 PM 03/30/2012 svaktshka wrote:

>That does sound frustrating!

>

>If your goal is to control someone else's behavior--in other

>words, if you expect your boundaries to teach your BPDer to

>respect you and care how you feel and see you as an independent

>person--then no, they don't work. If you expect them to listen

>and remember and do what you say, then no, they won't work.

>

>If, on the other hand, your goal is to take care of yourself

>and honor your own needs *whether or not* anybody else does,

>then, yes, they can work quite well.

>

>We can't control what other people do, only what we do.

>

>Goal that will fail: Get BPD to stop calling me after 9 pm.

>Goal that will succeed: Turn off my ringers after 9 pm.

>

>Goal that will fail: Get BPD to understand that it hurts me

>when she calls me names.

>Goal that will succeed: Leave or hang up when anyone calls me

>names.

>

>Sveta

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Very helpful remarks

> Well said!

>

> Boundaries are for the person who sets them, not for the other

> person. They are there to define to yourself what you will and

> won't put up with and what you'll do when someone transgresses

> them.

>

> At 07:21 PM 03/30/2012 svaktshka wrote:

> >That does sound frustrating!

> >

> >If your goal is to control someone else's behavior--in other

> >words, if you expect your boundaries to teach your BPDer to

> >respect you and care how you feel and see you as an independent

> >person--then no, they don't work. If you expect them to listen

> >and remember and do what you say, then no, they won't work.

> >

> >If, on the other hand, your goal is to take care of yourself

> >and honor your own needs *whether or not* anybody else does,

> >then, yes, they can work quite well.

> >

> >We can't control what other people do, only what we do.

> >

> >Goal that will fail: Get BPD to stop calling me after 9 pm.

> >Goal that will succeed: Turn off my ringers after 9 pm.

> >

> >Goal that will fail: Get BPD to understand that it hurts me

> >when she calls me names.

> >Goal that will succeed: Leave or hang up when anyone calls me

> >names.

> >

> >Sveta

>

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> Katrina

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This is really well put, svaktshka. I like your direct and streamlined

examples.

Its really hard for us adult kids of bpd parents to grasp that setting

boundaries is about changing OUR behavior, NOT about changing the bpd's

behavior.

KOs often feel compelled, even honor-bound, to get their bpd parent to

*understand* and *agree* to our boundaries... but the bpd parent just really,

truly is not capable of that. They can't understand and agree to respect our

needs and our feelings any more than a 2 year old can understand and agree

calmly and rationally that no, its not a good idea for him to have a big scoop

of chocolate ice-cream just before dinner, or that its not OK to pick the kitten

up by the tail and swing it around because it really hurts the kitten.

Boundaries are for *us*, to give us protection by establishing rules for how

*we* are going to respond to certain behaviors by the bpd parent, from now on.

-Annie

>

> That does sound frustrating!

>

> If your goal is to control someone else's behavior--in other words, if you

expect your boundaries to teach your BPDer to respect you and care how you feel

and see you as an independent person--then no, they don't work. If you expect

them to listen and remember and do what you say, then no, they won't work.

>

> If, on the other hand, your goal is to take care of yourself and honor your

own needs *whether or not* anybody else does, then, yes, they can work quite

well.

>

> We can't control what other people do, only what we do.

>

> Goal that will fail: Get BPD to stop calling me after 9 pm.

> Goal that will succeed: Turn off my ringers after 9 pm.

>

> Goal that will fail: Get BPD to understand that it hurts me when she calls me

names.

> Goal that will succeed: Leave or hang up when anyone calls me names.

>

> Sveta

>

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Boundaries don t work if your goal is to change a BP s behavior. They

do work to help YOU have a measure of sanity. If nada violates your

boundaries over and over, then she may be making the choice that will

lead to LC or NC in your relationship.

We cannot control thier behaviour, or heal them from BPD. We can build

our fence, and keep closing the gate. If we find that, like the

neighbor s cat, they come and shit on our roses every time we let them

in, them we may have to keep that gate closed.

That is sad, but we can choose our health and sanity, or cleaning up cat

shit.

I dont like cat shit.

How about you?

:)

Doug

>

> I have come to the realization that my nada doesn't give a sh*t about

whether I am in her life. As she gets older and sicker (she has 2 types

of cancer), I see her BPD behaviours getting worse towards me. I am the

scapegoated child who has given most of her like to helping her and

caring for her. I am NC with both of my brothers as one has NPD and the

other is highly abusive.

>

> I see the more I do for her, or don't do doesn't matter because she

actually displays open hatred for me these days....she seems to go out

of her way more and more to ensure that she praises her golden sons to

the hilt when I am around her and then villifies me for everything I am

or do.

>

> I believe Annie's post this last February really sums up my situation:

she " treats the mostly Scapegoated Child (ME) with disrespect and barely

concealed hostility, even though my Sister had been the one right there

helping nada, caring for her, and physically being there for nada for

10+ years. "

>

>

> I have played with being NC with her up until now but it is difficult

becuase my 2 cats live with her - I still have not been able to secure a

place that I can afford for the cats to be with me. I will not leave

them with her and I have to check on a daily basis if they are OK.

>

> Lately I have been embarking on a job search in a new field and I am

trying to find a completely new location to be able to take my cats and

get the hell away from my sick toxic family. The process is

furstratingly slow and I am hindered by very limited income for a long

distance move and I am on my own. I so deperately want NC with her, I am

not sure how to speed this up.

>

> The stress I feel some days is overwhelming - is this one of those

examples that it has to get really bad before it can get better????

>

> Koko

>

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Doug, you really nailed it there, I think. It is so difficult to see that

distinction at times (boundaries are for the person imposing them, not the other

way around). And it is so hard to really, fully come to terms with the fact that

we cannot change the BP's behavior. For me anyway, it is so hard because I can't

seem to stop thinking that there is some way I can get my nada to really see and

accept just how much she has hurt me over the years (which would ideally lead to

be hanging her behavior) I do know deep down that is impossible and she only

continues to make that clearer with everything she does.

I cannot do that and she will most likely beer change her behavior. My goal with

boundary setting/enforcement really is about what you just said - to give me a

measure of sanity and not have to keep cleaning up cat shit. ;)

- Meredith

> >

> > I have come to the realization that my nada doesn't give a sh*t about

> whether I am in her life. As she gets older and sicker (she has 2 types

> of cancer), I see her BPD behaviours getting worse towards me. I am the

> scapegoated child who has given most of her like to helping her and

> caring for her. I am NC with both of my brothers as one has NPD and the

> other is highly abusive.

> >

> > I see the more I do for her, or don't do doesn't matter because she

> actually displays open hatred for me these days....she seems to go out

> of her way more and more to ensure that she praises her golden sons to

> the hilt when I am around her and then villifies me for everything I am

> or do.

> >

> > I believe Annie's post this last February really sums up my situation:

> she " treats the mostly Scapegoated Child (ME) with disrespect and barely

> concealed hostility, even though my Sister had been the one right there

> helping nada, caring for her, and physically being there for nada for

> 10+ years. "

> >

> >

> > I have played with being NC with her up until now but it is difficult

> becuase my 2 cats live with her - I still have not been able to secure a

> place that I can afford for the cats to be with me. I will not leave

> them with her and I have to check on a daily basis if they are OK.

> >

> > Lately I have been embarking on a job search in a new field and I am

> trying to find a completely new location to be able to take my cats and

> get the hell away from my sick toxic family. The process is

> furstratingly slow and I am hindered by very limited income for a long

> distance move and I am on my own. I so deperately want NC with her, I am

> not sure how to speed this up.

> >

> > The stress I feel some days is overwhelming - is this one of those

> examples that it has to get really bad before it can get better????

> >

> > Koko

> >

>

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I like your metaphor Doug.

I think that each time I set a boundary for myself to get some down time or to

just have a breather from nada's insanity - she " suddenly " gets so sick or has

an attack of some kind that requires hospitalization. I just recently came home

from having to be at her house (due to my cats) because she was hospitalized for

4 days due to a stomach bug - this occured right after I had set a boundary

whereby I was not staying over and only going by to medicate and feed the cats.

If I track it back her attacks or health nose dives when I have gone LC or if I

have anything good going on for me such as a little holiday or time with a

friend.

It is tricky to go NC while my cats or with her but I am working on it - until

that time she will pull her health card each time to get me roped back in as she

knows I would never walk away from my pets.

I feel that I am getting close to closing the gate completely with her or she

may die before that! I will share an email a friend recently sent me from the

" divorcing a BPD forum " :

" I was not placed on this earth solely for

you. I was meant for my own journey, to do bigger things than simply

witness your painful journey and absorb your wrath. My world is much

larger than just your angst. "

Thanks everyone

Koko

> >

> > I have come to the realization that my nada doesn't give a sh*t about

> whether I am in her life. As she gets older and sicker (she has 2 types

> of cancer), I see her BPD behaviours getting worse towards me. I am the

> scapegoated child who has given most of her like to helping her and

> caring for her. I am NC with both of my brothers as one has NPD and the

> other is highly abusive.

> >

> > I see the more I do for her, or don't do doesn't matter because she

> actually displays open hatred for me these days....she seems to go out

> of her way more and more to ensure that she praises her golden sons to

> the hilt when I am around her and then villifies me for everything I am

> or do.

> >

> > I believe Annie's post this last February really sums up my situation:

> she " treats the mostly Scapegoated Child (ME) with disrespect and barely

> concealed hostility, even though my Sister had been the one right there

> helping nada, caring for her, and physically being there for nada for

> 10+ years. "

> >

> >

> > I have played with being NC with her up until now but it is difficult

> becuase my 2 cats live with her - I still have not been able to secure a

> place that I can afford for the cats to be with me. I will not leave

> them with her and I have to check on a daily basis if they are OK.

> >

> > Lately I have been embarking on a job search in a new field and I am

> trying to find a completely new location to be able to take my cats and

> get the hell away from my sick toxic family. The process is

> furstratingly slow and I am hindered by very limited income for a long

> distance move and I am on my own. I so deperately want NC with her, I am

> not sure how to speed this up.

> >

> > The stress I feel some days is overwhelming - is this one of those

> examples that it has to get really bad before it can get better????

> >

> > Koko

> >

>

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Why on earth are your pets with her??? I haven't been around much lately so I

missed the history. Have you read all the terrible stories of nadas and pets

on this board? There might be an animal rescue group out there that would be

willing to give them foster care while you work things out. Sorry if this is

ground you've totally covered already.

About nadas seeming to " know " whenever you get the tiniest bit of space and amp

it up, OH YES. I have an intermittent meditation practice, and during times

when I finally get back into it and start getting benefit she immediately has a

big crisis. I don't even have to tell her about something good going on, just

me seeming a little happier and freer somehow seems enough. It was that way

especially when I was a kid growing up. Somehow me being happy (which I wasn't

most of the time) seemed a trigger at minimum for her being angry at me about

something.

Eliza

> > >

> > > I have come to the realization that my nada doesn't give a sh*t about

> > whether I am in her life. As she gets older and sicker (she has 2 types

> > of cancer), I see her BPD behaviours getting worse towards me. I am the

> > scapegoated child who has given most of her like to helping her and

> > caring for her. I am NC with both of my brothers as one has NPD and the

> > other is highly abusive.

> > >

> > > I see the more I do for her, or don't do doesn't matter because she

> > actually displays open hatred for me these days....she seems to go out

> > of her way more and more to ensure that she praises her golden sons to

> > the hilt when I am around her and then villifies me for everything I am

> > or do.

> > >

> > > I believe Annie's post this last February really sums up my situation:

> > she " treats the mostly Scapegoated Child (ME) with disrespect and barely

> > concealed hostility, even though my Sister had been the one right there

> > helping nada, caring for her, and physically being there for nada for

> > 10+ years. "

> > >

> > >

> > > I have played with being NC with her up until now but it is difficult

> > becuase my 2 cats live with her - I still have not been able to secure a

> > place that I can afford for the cats to be with me. I will not leave

> > them with her and I have to check on a daily basis if they are OK.

> > >

> > > Lately I have been embarking on a job search in a new field and I am

> > trying to find a completely new location to be able to take my cats and

> > get the hell away from my sick toxic family. The process is

> > furstratingly slow and I am hindered by very limited income for a long

> > distance move and I am on my own. I so deperately want NC with her, I am

> > not sure how to speed this up.

> > >

> > > The stress I feel some days is overwhelming - is this one of those

> > examples that it has to get really bad before it can get better????

> > >

> > > Koko

> > >

> >

>

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Hi Eliza

My cats are with her because when I moved back I couldn't find a place that

would allow pets so I left them at her place - She is actually OK with the cats

so far since they are also a " hook " to get me back so she wouldn't do anything

to them. I go by almost every day to see to them. I have looked into a lot of

other options for them but since one of them is very old and sick, I don't want

to place in a strange place - at least nada's is familiar to them and they are

close by.

I know what you mean about " seeming a little freer and happier " - even if they

don't see us our nadas seem to have this sixth sense for knowing we our moving

into our own skin and want to sabotage it. I find it really creepy - it is like

being stalked on an emotional level.

I am in the process of applying for jobs outside of the city and away from her

and my brothers and at that point we (me and my cats) will be away forever. I

will not discuss it with her though. Any hint a BPD has of us trying to break

free will bring on some sort of " episode " to rope us back in.

A friend once told me to never let a person with BPD know of your plans.

Koko

> > > >

> > > > I have come to the realization that my nada doesn't give a sh*t about

> > > whether I am in her life. As she gets older and sicker (she has 2 types

> > > of cancer), I see her BPD behaviours getting worse towards me. I am the

> > > scapegoated child who has given most of her like to helping her and

> > > caring for her. I am NC with both of my brothers as one has NPD and the

> > > other is highly abusive.

> > > >

> > > > I see the more I do for her, or don't do doesn't matter because she

> > > actually displays open hatred for me these days....she seems to go out

> > > of her way more and more to ensure that she praises her golden sons to

> > > the hilt when I am around her and then villifies me for everything I am

> > > or do.

> > > >

> > > > I believe Annie's post this last February really sums up my situation:

> > > she " treats the mostly Scapegoated Child (ME) with disrespect and barely

> > > concealed hostility, even though my Sister had been the one right there

> > > helping nada, caring for her, and physically being there for nada for

> > > 10+ years. "

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > I have played with being NC with her up until now but it is difficult

> > > becuase my 2 cats live with her - I still have not been able to secure a

> > > place that I can afford for the cats to be with me. I will not leave

> > > them with her and I have to check on a daily basis if they are OK.

> > > >

> > > > Lately I have been embarking on a job search in a new field and I am

> > > trying to find a completely new location to be able to take my cats and

> > > get the hell away from my sick toxic family. The process is

> > > furstratingly slow and I am hindered by very limited income for a long

> > > distance move and I am on my own. I so deperately want NC with her, I am

> > > not sure how to speed this up.

> > > >

> > > > The stress I feel some days is overwhelming - is this one of those

> > > examples that it has to get really bad before it can get better????

> > > >

> > > > Koko

> > > >

> > >

> >

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I agree with your friend RE never letting the bpd individual know your plans.

My suggestion: when you do find a new job and a new place to move into, do not

breath even a hint of any of it to nada.

After you've made all your preparations & arrangements, and your new place is

ready for your cats, you arrive at nada's as though you are just there to feed

your cats as usual, but instead you scoop them up as quickly and efficiently as

you can into cat carriers (maybe bring a friend with you to help), put them in

your car, and leave.

The idea is not to leave your cats alone with your nada after she knows you are

moving away. Its just too risky. Once she realizes the truth she could snap

and do something atypical for her, something impulsive like being mean to your

cats in a fit of " I'll get you back for this. " Or not. But me personally, I'd

rather be safe than sorry.

But I think its worth taking those extra precautions to protect your cats.

You know your nada better than anyone, though, so you're the one to make the

risk assessment. Best of luck to you, I hope you find a great new job and new

place

soon!

-Annie

> > > > >

> > > > > I have come to the realization that my nada doesn't give a sh*t about

> > > > whether I am in her life. As she gets older and sicker (she has 2 types

> > > > of cancer), I see her BPD behaviours getting worse towards me. I am the

> > > > scapegoated child who has given most of her like to helping her and

> > > > caring for her. I am NC with both of my brothers as one has NPD and the

> > > > other is highly abusive.

> > > > >

> > > > > I see the more I do for her, or don't do doesn't matter because she

> > > > actually displays open hatred for me these days....she seems to go out

> > > > of her way more and more to ensure that she praises her golden sons to

> > > > the hilt when I am around her and then villifies me for everything I am

> > > > or do.

> > > > >

> > > > > I believe Annie's post this last February really sums up my situation:

> > > > she " treats the mostly Scapegoated Child (ME) with disrespect and barely

> > > > concealed hostility, even though my Sister had been the one right there

> > > > helping nada, caring for her, and physically being there for nada for

> > > > 10+ years. "

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > I have played with being NC with her up until now but it is difficult

> > > > becuase my 2 cats live with her - I still have not been able to secure a

> > > > place that I can afford for the cats to be with me. I will not leave

> > > > them with her and I have to check on a daily basis if they are OK.

> > > > >

> > > > > Lately I have been embarking on a job search in a new field and I am

> > > > trying to find a completely new location to be able to take my cats and

> > > > get the hell away from my sick toxic family. The process is

> > > > furstratingly slow and I am hindered by very limited income for a long

> > > > distance move and I am on my own. I so deperately want NC with her, I am

> > > > not sure how to speed this up.

> > > > >

> > > > > The stress I feel some days is overwhelming - is this one of those

> > > > examples that it has to get really bad before it can get better????

> > > > >

> > > > > Koko

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

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Good luck with your secret escape plans Koko. I've found that also that any

important plan, even if it seems to have nothing to do with my FOO, is best kept

secret for good results. I'm glad your nada is okay with your cats, but I'll

still breathe a sigh of relief for you and them when you can get them out of her

house. I left my childhood cat with my nada when I was in college and she

didn't even tell me he was ill, he died without any medical care and I was told

after the fact. Hard to let go of that one. I wish you a swift escape!

Eliza

> > > > >

> > > > > I have come to the realization that my nada doesn't give a sh*t about

> > > > whether I am in her life. As she gets older and sicker (she has 2 types

> > > > of cancer), I see her BPD behaviours getting worse towards me. I am the

> > > > scapegoated child who has given most of her like to helping her and

> > > > caring for her. I am NC with both of my brothers as one has NPD and the

> > > > other is highly abusive.

> > > > >

> > > > > I see the more I do for her, or don't do doesn't matter because she

> > > > actually displays open hatred for me these days....she seems to go out

> > > > of her way more and more to ensure that she praises her golden sons to

> > > > the hilt when I am around her and then villifies me for everything I am

> > > > or do.

> > > > >

> > > > > I believe Annie's post this last February really sums up my situation:

> > > > she " treats the mostly Scapegoated Child (ME) with disrespect and barely

> > > > concealed hostility, even though my Sister had been the one right there

> > > > helping nada, caring for her, and physically being there for nada for

> > > > 10+ years. "

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > I have played with being NC with her up until now but it is difficult

> > > > becuase my 2 cats live with her - I still have not been able to secure a

> > > > place that I can afford for the cats to be with me. I will not leave

> > > > them with her and I have to check on a daily basis if they are OK.

> > > > >

> > > > > Lately I have been embarking on a job search in a new field and I am

> > > > trying to find a completely new location to be able to take my cats and

> > > > get the hell away from my sick toxic family. The process is

> > > > furstratingly slow and I am hindered by very limited income for a long

> > > > distance move and I am on my own. I so deperately want NC with her, I am

> > > > not sure how to speed this up.

> > > > >

> > > > > The stress I feel some days is overwhelming - is this one of those

> > > > examples that it has to get really bad before it can get better????

> > > > >

> > > > > Koko

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

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Thank you Annie and Eliza. Annie, I wil definitely take your suggestion

about how to move the cats. Nada has been " ramping up " her BPD

behaviours lately in her contact goal for more attention so who knows

what she can do. I live in constant anxiety and fear of what stunt she

will pull around this. I also pray for and want a swift end to this

arrangement and the freedom to not have to go by there every day.

Koko

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have come to the realization that my nada doesn't give a

sh*t about

> > > > > whether I am in her life. As she gets older and sicker (she

has 2 types

> > > > > of cancer), I see her BPD behaviours getting worse towards me.

I am the

> > > > > scapegoated child who has given most of her like to helping

her and

> > > > > caring for her. I am NC with both of my brothers as one has

NPD and the

> > > > > other is highly abusive.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I see the more I do for her, or don't do doesn't matter

because she

> > > > > actually displays open hatred for me these days....she seems

to go out

> > > > > of her way more and more to ensure that she praises her golden

sons to

> > > > > the hilt when I am around her and then villifies me for

everything I am

> > > > > or do.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I believe Annie's post this last February really sums up my

situation:

> > > > > she " treats the mostly Scapegoated Child (ME) with disrespect

and barely

> > > > > concealed hostility, even though my Sister had been the one

right there

> > > > > helping nada, caring for her, and physically being there for

nada for

> > > > > 10+ years. "

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have played with being NC with her up until now but it is

difficult

> > > > > becuase my 2 cats live with her - I still have not been able

to secure a

> > > > > place that I can afford for the cats to be with me. I will not

leave

> > > > > them with her and I have to check on a daily basis if they are

OK.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Lately I have been embarking on a job search in a new field

and I am

> > > > > trying to find a completely new location to be able to take my

cats and

> > > > > get the hell away from my sick toxic family. The process is

> > > > > furstratingly slow and I am hindered by very limited income

for a long

> > > > > distance move and I am on my own. I so deperately want NC with

her, I am

> > > > > not sure how to speed this up.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The stress I feel some days is overwhelming - is this one of

those

> > > > > examples that it has to get really bad before it can get

better????

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Koko

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

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