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Antiviral drugs may slow Alzheimer's progression

http://www.manchester.ac.uk/aboutus/news/display/?id=7543

Antiviral drugs used to target the herpes virus could be effective at

slowing the progression of Alzheimer's disease (AD), a new study shows.

The University of Manchester scientists have previously shown that the

herpes simplex virus type 1 (HSV1) is a risk factor for Alzheimer's when

it is present in the brains of people who have a specific genetic risk

to the disease.

AD is an incurable neurodegenerative condition affecting about 18

million people worldwide. The causes of the disease or of the abnormal

protein structures seen in AD brains – amyloid plaques and

neurofibrillary tangles – are completely unknown.

The Manchester team has established that the herpes virus causes

accumulation of two key AD proteins – â-amyloid (Aâ) and

abnormally phosphorylated tau (P-tau) – known to be the main

components of plaques and tangles respectively. Both proteins are

thought by many scientists to be involved in the development of the

disease.

" We have found that the viral DNA in AD brains is very specifically

located within amyloid plaques, " said Professor Ruth Itzhaki, who led

the team in the University's Faculty of Life Sciences. " This, together

with the production of amyloid that the virus induces, suggests that

HSV1 is a cause of toxic amyloid products and of plaques.

" Our results suggest that HSV1, together with the host genetic factor,

is a major risk for AD, and that antiviral agents might be used for

treating patients to slow disease progression. "

Currently available antiviral agents act by targeting replication of

HSV1 DNA, and so the researchers considered that they might be

successful in treating AD only if the accumulation of â-amyloid and

P-tau accumulation caused by the virus occurs at or after the stage at

which viral DNA replication occurs.

" If these proteins are produced independently of HSV1 replication,

antivirals might not be effective, " said Professor Itzhaki. " We

investigated this and found that treatment of HSV1-infected cells with

acyclovir, the most commonly used antiviral agent, and also with two

other antivirals, did indeed decrease the accumulation of â-amyloid

and P-tau, as well as decreasing HSV1 replication as we would expect.

" This is the first study investigating antiviral effects on AD-like

changes and we conclude that since antiviral agents reduce greatly

â-amyloid and P-tau levels in HSV1-infected cells, they would be

suitable for treating Alzheimer's disease. The great advantage over

current AD therapies is that acyclovir would target only the virus, not

the host cell or normal uninfected cells. Further, these agents are very

safe and are relatively inexpensive.

" Also, by targeting a cause of Alzheimer's disease, other viral damage,

besides â-amyloid and P-tau, which might be involved in the disease's

pathogenesis, would also be inhibited.

" The next stage of our research – subject to funding – will

focus on finding the most suitable antiviral agent – or combination

of two agents that operate via different mechanisms – for use as

treatment. We then need to investigate the way in which the virus and

the genetic risk factor interact to cause the disease, as that might

lead to further novel treatments.

" Eventually, we hope to begin clinical trials in humans but this is

still some way off yet and again will require new funding. "

The study, carried out with Dr Wozniak and other colleagues in

the Faculty of Life Sciences, is published in the Public Library of

Science (PLoS) One journal.

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This is interesting but there must be some other thing going on with respect to the deterioration of the immune function.Maybe it is oxidative stress (due to aging and associated reasons in this case) decreasing the immune function leading to chronic viral state.Is virus just co-morbid or the underlying trigger?To: mb12valtrex Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 3:26 PMSubject: Antiviral drugs may slow Alzheimer's progression - acycolovir inhibits amyoid

Antiviral drugs may slow Alzheimer's progression

http://www.manchester.ac.uk/aboutus/news/display/?id=7543

Antiviral drugs used to target the herpes virus could be effective at

slowing the progression of Alzheimer's disease (AD), a new study shows.

The University of Manchester scientists have previously shown that the

herpes simplex virus type 1 (HSV1) is a risk factor for Alzheimer's when

it is present in the brains of people who have a specific genetic risk

to the disease.

AD is an incurable neurodegenerative condition affecting about 18

million people worldwide. The causes of the disease or of the abnormal

protein structures seen in AD brains – amyloid plaques and

neurofibrillary tangles – are completely unknown.

The Manchester team has established that the herpes virus causes

accumulation of two key AD proteins – â-amyloid (Aâ) and

abnormally phosphorylated tau (P-tau) – known to be the main

components of plaques and tangles respectively. Both proteins are

thought by many scientists to be involved in the development of the

disease.

"We have found that the viral DNA in AD brains is very specifically

located within amyloid plaques," said Professor Ruth Itzhaki, who led

the team in the University's Faculty of Life Sciences. "This, together

with the production of amyloid that the virus induces, suggests that

HSV1 is a cause of toxic amyloid products and of plaques.

"Our results suggest that HSV1, together with the host genetic factor,

is a major risk for AD, and that antiviral agents might be used for

treating patients to slow disease progression."

Currently available antiviral agents act by targeting replication of

HSV1 DNA, and so the researchers considered that they might be

successful in treating AD only if the accumulation of â-amyloid and

P-tau accumulation caused by the virus occurs at or after the stage at

which viral DNA replication occurs.

"If these proteins are produced independently of HSV1 replication,

antivirals might not be effective," said Professor Itzhaki. "We

investigated this and found that treatment of HSV1-infected cells with

acyclovir, the most commonly used antiviral agent, and also with two

other antivirals, did indeed decrease the accumulation of â-amyloid

and P-tau, as well as decreasing HSV1 replication as we would expect.

"This is the first study investigating antiviral effects on AD-like

changes and we conclude that since antiviral agents reduce greatly

â-amyloid and P-tau levels in HSV1-infected cells, they would be

suitable for treating Alzheimer's disease. The great advantage over

current AD therapies is that acyclovir would target only the virus, not

the host cell or normal uninfected cells. Further, these agents are very

safe and are relatively inexpensive.

"Also, by targeting a cause of Alzheimer's disease, other viral damage,

besides â-amyloid and P-tau, which might be involved in the disease's

pathogenesis, would also be inhibited.

"The next stage of our research – subject to funding – will

focus on finding the most suitable antiviral agent – or combination

of two agents that operate via different mechanisms – for use as

treatment. We then need to investigate the way in which the virus and

the genetic risk factor interact to cause the disease, as that might

lead to further novel treatments.

"Eventually, we hope to begin clinical trials in humans but this is

still some way off yet and again will require new funding."

The study, carried out with Dr Wozniak and other colleagues in

the Faculty of Life Sciences, is published in the Public Library of

Science (PLoS) One journal.

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That's an unfair question because you could simply turn around and ask what caused the increased oxidative stress? And then what caused *that*? It's a never-ending circle that we'll probably not be able to answer in our lifetimes, probably not our children's lifetimes. It's important to work on them but unless you plan to start entering the research game and answering those questions, we work with what we've got. We're getting pieces and we treat with what pieces we know until we know more. Like the saying goes: when we know better, we do better.If you're asking those questions, it's a good bet the researchers and scientists have already asked them themselves. (I don't mean to imply that parents shouldn't ask questions, discuss or debate, only that we understand that there are no answers to many of those questions - the best we've got are more questions.)

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This is interesting but there must be some other thing going on with respect to the deterioration of the immune function.Maybe it is oxidative stress (due to aging and associated reasons in this case) decreasing the immune function leading to chronic viral state.Is virus just co-morbid or the underlying trigger?To: mb12valtrex Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 3:26 PMSubject: Antiviral drugs may slow Alzheimer's progression - acycolovir inhibits amyoid

Antiviral drugs may slow Alzheimer's progression

http://www.manchester.ac.uk/aboutus/news/display/?id=7543

Antiviral drugs used to target the herpes virus could be effective at

slowing the progression of Alzheimer's disease (AD), a new study shows.

The University of Manchester scientists have previously shown that the

herpes simplex virus type 1 (HSV1) is a risk factor for Alzheimer's when

it is present in the brains of people who have a specific genetic risk

to the disease.

AD is an incurable neurodegenerative condition affecting about 18

million people worldwide. The causes of the disease or of the abnormal

protein structures seen in AD brains – amyloid plaques and

neurofibrillary tangles – are completely unknown.

The Manchester team has established that the herpes virus causes

accumulation of two key AD proteins – â-amyloid (Aâ) and

abnormally phosphorylated tau (P-tau) – known to be the main

components of plaques and tangles respectively. Both proteins are

thought by many scientists to be involved in the development of the

disease.

"We have found that the viral DNA in AD brains is very specifically

located within amyloid plaques," said Professor Ruth Itzhaki, who led

the team in the University's Faculty of Life Sciences. "This, together

with the production of amyloid that the virus induces, suggests that

HSV1 is a cause of toxic amyloid products and of plaques.

"Our results suggest that HSV1, together with the host genetic factor,

is a major risk for AD, and that antiviral agents might be used for

treating patients to slow disease progression."

Currently available antiviral agents act by targeting replication of

HSV1 DNA, and so the researchers considered that they might be

successful in treating AD only if the accumulation of â-amyloid and

P-tau accumulation caused by the virus occurs at or after the stage at

which viral DNA replication occurs.

"If these proteins are produced independently of HSV1 replication,

antivirals might not be effective," said Professor Itzhaki. "We

investigated this and found that treatment of HSV1-infected cells with

acyclovir, the most commonly used antiviral agent, and also with two

other antivirals, did indeed decrease the accumulation of â-amyloid

and P-tau, as well as decreasing HSV1 replication as we would expect.

"This is the first study investigating antiviral effects on AD-like

changes and we conclude that since antiviral agents reduce greatly

â-amyloid and P-tau levels in HSV1-infected cells, they would be

suitable for treating Alzheimer's disease. The great advantage over

current AD therapies is that acyclovir would target only the virus, not

the host cell or normal uninfected cells. Further, these agents are very

safe and are relatively inexpensive.

"Also, by targeting a cause of Alzheimer's disease, other viral damage,

besides â-amyloid and P-tau, which might be involved in the disease's

pathogenesis, would also be inhibited.

"The next stage of our research – subject to funding – will

focus on finding the most suitable antiviral agent – or combination

of two agents that operate via different mechanisms – for use as

treatment. We then need to investigate the way in which the virus and

the genetic risk factor interact to cause the disease, as that might

lead to further novel treatments.

"Eventually, we hope to begin clinical trials in humans but this is

still some way off yet and again will require new funding."

The study, carried out with Dr Wozniak and other colleagues in

the Faculty of Life Sciences, is published in the Public Library of

Science (PLoS) One journal.

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the paper is free access, I highly recommend it - at least the

Discussion part, as not to technical and addresses some of your

questions...

http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.00251\

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this study shows it is pathological, directly leads to amyloid plaque

formation etc.

IMO this is not due to immune dysfunction that much, more likely do with

migration of the virus (present in most humans) to the brain. The reason

it gets to the CNS later in life (or very early on - autism!?) is

probably to do with opening of BBB in old age, due to various env.

factors.

Natasa

>

> This is interesting but there must be some other thing going on with

respect to the deterioration of the immune function.

> Maybe it is oxidative stress (due to aging and associatedÂ

reasons in this case) decreasing the immune function leading to chronic

viral state.

> Is virus just co-morbid or the underlying trigger?

>

>

>

> >________________________________

> >From: natasa778 neno@...

> >To: mb12valtrex

> >Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 3:26 PM

> >Subject: Antiviral drugs may slow Alzheimer's

progression - acycolovir inhibits amyoid

> >

> >

> >Â

> >

> >Antiviral drugs may slow Alzheimer's progression

> >

> >http://www.manchester.ac.uk/aboutus/news/display/?id=7543

> >

> >Antiviral drugs used to target the herpes virus could be effective at

> >slowing the progression of Alzheimer's disease (AD), a new study

shows.

> >

> >The University of Manchester scientists have previously shown that

the

> >herpes simplex virus type 1 (HSV1) is a risk factor for Alzheimer's

when

> >it is present in the brains of people who have a specific genetic

risk

> >to the disease.

> >

> >AD is an incurable neurodegenerative condition affecting about 18

> >million people worldwide. The causes of the disease or of the

abnormal

> >protein structures seen in AD brains †" amyloid plaques and

> >neurofibrillary tangles †" are completely unknown.

> >

> >The Manchester team has established that the herpes virus causes

> >accumulation of two key AD proteins †" â-amyloid (Aâ)

and

> >abnormally phosphorylated tau (P-tau) †" known to be the main

> >components of plaques and tangles respectively. Both proteins are

> >thought by many scientists to be involved in the development of the

> >disease.

> >

> > " We have found that the viral DNA in AD brains is very specifically

> >located within amyloid plaques, " said Professor Ruth Itzhaki, who led

> >the team in the University's Faculty of Life Sciences. " This,

together

> >with the production of amyloid that the virus induces, suggests that

> >HSV1 is a cause of toxic amyloid products and of plaques.

> >

> > " Our results suggest that HSV1, together with the host genetic

factor,

> >is a major risk for AD, and that antiviral agents might be used for

> >treating patients to slow disease progression. "

> >

> >Currently available antiviral agents act by targeting replication of

> >HSV1 DNA, and so the researchers considered that they might be

> >successful in treating AD only if the accumulation of â-amyloid

and

> >P-tau accumulation caused by the virus occurs at or after the stage

at

> >which viral DNA replication occurs.

> >

> > " If these proteins are produced independently of HSV1 replication,

> >antivirals might not be effective, " said Professor Itzhaki. " We

> >investigated this and found that treatment of HSV1-infected cells

with

> >acyclovir, the most commonly used antiviral agent, and also with two

> >other antivirals, did indeed decrease the accumulation of

â-amyloid

> >and P-tau, as well as decreasing HSV1 replication as we would expect.

> >

> > " This is the first study investigating antiviral effects on AD-like

> >changes and we conclude that since antiviral agents reduce greatly

> >â-amyloid and P-tau levels in HSV1-infected cells, they would be

> >suitable for treating Alzheimer's disease. The great advantage over

> >current AD therapies is that acyclovir would target only the virus,

not

> >the host cell or normal uninfected cells. Further, these agents are

very

> >safe and are relatively inexpensive.

> >

> > " Also, by targeting a cause of Alzheimer's disease, other viral

damage,

> >besides â-amyloid and P-tau, which might be involved in the

disease's

> >pathogenesis, would also be inhibited.

> >

> > " The next stage of our research †" subject to funding †"

will

> >focus on finding the most suitable antiviral agent †" or

combination

> >of two agents that operate via different mechanisms †" for use

as

> >treatment. We then need to investigate the way in which the virus and

> >the genetic risk factor interact to cause the disease, as that might

> >lead to further novel treatments.

> >

> > " Eventually, we hope to begin clinical trials in humans but this is

> >still some way off yet and again will require new funding. "

> >

> >The study, carried out with Dr Wozniak and other colleagues

in

> >the Faculty of Life Sciences, is published in the Public Library of

> >Science (PLoS) One journal.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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yes will said. the question is also a wrong question, as it doesn't have

much to do with impaired immune system at all! see my previous post on

accessing the paper... the key is the virus getting to the brain, and

getting reactivated by various stressors. Even when it goes back to its

latent/nonreplicative state it is STILL harmful.

Natasa

>

> >

> > This is interesting but there must be some other thing going on with

respect to the deterioration of the immune function.

> > Maybe it is oxidative stress (due to aging and associated reasons in

this case) decreasing the immune function leading to chronic viral

state.

> > Is virus just co-morbid or the underlying trigger?

> >

> > From: natasa778 neno@...

> > To: mb12valtrex

> > Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 3:26 PM

> > Subject: Antiviral drugs may slow Alzheimer's

progression - acycolovir inhibits amyoid

> >

> >

> >

> > Antiviral drugs may slow Alzheimer's progression

> >

> > http://www.manchester.ac.uk/aboutus/news/display/?id=7543

> >

> > Antiviral drugs used to target the herpes virus could be effective

at

> > slowing the progression of Alzheimer's disease (AD), a new study

shows.

> >

> > The University of Manchester scientists have previously shown that

the

> > herpes simplex virus type 1 (HSV1) is a risk factor for Alzheimer's

when

> > it is present in the brains of people who have a specific genetic

risk

> > to the disease.

> >

> > AD is an incurable neurodegenerative condition affecting about 18

> > million people worldwide. The causes of the disease or of the

abnormal

> > protein structures seen in AD brains – amyloid plaques and

> > neurofibrillary tangles – are completely unknown.

> >

> > The Manchester team has established that the herpes virus causes

> > accumulation of two key AD proteins – â-amyloid (Aâ) and

> > abnormally phosphorylated tau (P-tau) – known to be the main

> > components of plaques and tangles respectively. Both proteins are

> > thought by many scientists to be involved in the development of the

> > disease.

> >

> > " We have found that the viral DNA in AD brains is very specifically

> > located within amyloid plaques, " said Professor Ruth Itzhaki, who

led

> > the team in the University's Faculty of Life Sciences. " This,

together

> > with the production of amyloid that the virus induces, suggests that

> > HSV1 is a cause of toxic amyloid products and of plaques.

> >

> > " Our results suggest that HSV1, together with the host genetic

factor,

> > is a major risk for AD, and that antiviral agents might be used for

> > treating patients to slow disease progression. "

> >

> > Currently available antiviral agents act by targeting replication of

> > HSV1 DNA, and so the researchers considered that they might be

> > successful in treating AD only if the accumulation of â-amyloid

and

> > P-tau accumulation caused by the virus occurs at or after the stage

at

> > which viral DNA replication occurs.

> >

> > " If these proteins are produced independently of HSV1 replication,

> > antivirals might not be effective, " said Professor Itzhaki. " We

> > investigated this and found that treatment of HSV1-infected cells

with

> > acyclovir, the most commonly used antiviral agent, and also with two

> > other antivirals, did indeed decrease the accumulation of

â-amyloid

> > and P-tau, as well as decreasing HSV1 replication as we would

expect.

> >

> > " This is the first study investigating antiviral effects on AD-like

> > changes and we conclude that since antiviral agents reduce greatly

> > â-amyloid and P-tau levels in HSV1-infected cells, they would be

> > suitable for treating Alzheimer's disease. The great advantage over

> > current AD therapies is that acyclovir would target only the virus,

not

> > the host cell or normal uninfected cells. Further, these agents are

very

> > safe and are relatively inexpensive.

> >

> > " Also, by targeting a cause of Alzheimer's disease, other viral

damage,

> > besides â-amyloid and P-tau, which might be involved in the

disease's

> > pathogenesis, would also be inhibited.

> >

> > " The next stage of our research – subject to funding – will

> > focus on finding the most suitable antiviral agent – or

combination

> > of two agents that operate via different mechanisms – for use as

> > treatment. We then need to investigate the way in which the virus

and

> > the genetic risk factor interact to cause the disease, as that might

> > lead to further novel treatments.

> >

> > " Eventually, we hope to begin clinical trials in humans but this is

> > still some way off yet and again will require new funding. "

> >

> > The study, carried out with Dr Wozniak and other colleagues

in

> > the Faculty of Life Sciences, is published in the Public Library of

> > Science (PLoS) One journal.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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meant to say WELL said Cheryl :)

> >

> > >

> > > This is interesting but there must be some other thing going on

with

> respect to the deterioration of the immune function.

> > > Maybe it is oxidative stress (due to aging and associated reasons

in

> this case) decreasing the immune function leading to chronic viral

> state.

> > > Is virus just co-morbid or the underlying trigger?

> > >

> > > From: natasa778 neno@

> > > To: mb12valtrex

> > > Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 3:26 PM

> > > Subject: Antiviral drugs may slow Alzheimer's

> progression - acycolovir inhibits amyoid

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Antiviral drugs may slow Alzheimer's progression

> > >

> > > http://www.manchester.ac.uk/aboutus/news/display/?id=7543

> > >

> > > Antiviral drugs used to target the herpes virus could be effective

> at

> > > slowing the progression of Alzheimer's disease (AD), a new study

> shows.

> > >

> > > The University of Manchester scientists have previously shown that

> the

> > > herpes simplex virus type 1 (HSV1) is a risk factor for

Alzheimer's

> when

> > > it is present in the brains of people who have a specific genetic

> risk

> > > to the disease.

> > >

> > > AD is an incurable neurodegenerative condition affecting about 18

> > > million people worldwide. The causes of the disease or of the

> abnormal

> > > protein structures seen in AD brains – amyloid plaques and

> > > neurofibrillary tangles – are completely unknown.

> > >

> > > The Manchester team has established that the herpes virus causes

> > > accumulation of two key AD proteins – â-amyloid (Aâ) and

> > > abnormally phosphorylated tau (P-tau) – known to be the main

> > > components of plaques and tangles respectively. Both proteins are

> > > thought by many scientists to be involved in the development of

the

> > > disease.

> > >

> > > " We have found that the viral DNA in AD brains is very

specifically

> > > located within amyloid plaques, " said Professor Ruth Itzhaki, who

> led

> > > the team in the University's Faculty of Life Sciences. " This,

> together

> > > with the production of amyloid that the virus induces, suggests

that

> > > HSV1 is a cause of toxic amyloid products and of plaques.

> > >

> > > " Our results suggest that HSV1, together with the host genetic

> factor,

> > > is a major risk for AD, and that antiviral agents might be used

for

> > > treating patients to slow disease progression. "

> > >

> > > Currently available antiviral agents act by targeting replication

of

> > > HSV1 DNA, and so the researchers considered that they might be

> > > successful in treating AD only if the accumulation of â-amyloid

> and

> > > P-tau accumulation caused by the virus occurs at or after the

stage

> at

> > > which viral DNA replication occurs.

> > >

> > > " If these proteins are produced independently of HSV1 replication,

> > > antivirals might not be effective, " said Professor Itzhaki. " We

> > > investigated this and found that treatment of HSV1-infected cells

> with

> > > acyclovir, the most commonly used antiviral agent, and also with

two

> > > other antivirals, did indeed decrease the accumulation of

> â-amyloid

> > > and P-tau, as well as decreasing HSV1 replication as we would

> expect.

> > >

> > > " This is the first study investigating antiviral effects on

AD-like

> > > changes and we conclude that since antiviral agents reduce greatly

> > > â-amyloid and P-tau levels in HSV1-infected cells, they would

be

> > > suitable for treating Alzheimer's disease. The great advantage

over

> > > current AD therapies is that acyclovir would target only the

virus,

> not

> > > the host cell or normal uninfected cells. Further, these agents

are

> very

> > > safe and are relatively inexpensive.

> > >

> > > " Also, by targeting a cause of Alzheimer's disease, other viral

> damage,

> > > besides â-amyloid and P-tau, which might be involved in the

> disease's

> > > pathogenesis, would also be inhibited.

> > >

> > > " The next stage of our research – subject to funding –

will

> > > focus on finding the most suitable antiviral agent – or

> combination

> > > of two agents that operate via different mechanisms – for use

as

> > > treatment. We then need to investigate the way in which the virus

> and

> > > the genetic risk factor interact to cause the disease, as that

might

> > > lead to further novel treatments.

> > >

> > > " Eventually, we hope to begin clinical trials in humans but this

is

> > > still some way off yet and again will require new funding. "

> > >

> > > The study, carried out with Dr Wozniak and other

colleagues

> in

> > > the Faculty of Life Sciences, is published in the Public Library

of

> > > Science (PLoS) One journal.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

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Well, I'd just blame it on B vitamin deficiency, add some anti-biotics once your immune system takes a hit, add the tylenol and you start spiraling downward. Need massive B vitamins and all sorts of detoxing to build back up the immune system. Digging out of that hole is so much harder.

I used to think anti-medication people were weird. I mean, the kind of people who refused a pill for a headache. I wish I had listened to those people, even if they didn't know why they didn't like being on meds.... they just didn't like the idea of taking something, anything.

That's an unfair question because you could simply turn around and ask what caused the increased oxidative stress? And then what caused *that*? It's a never-ending circle that we'll probably not be able to answer in our lifetimes, probably not our children's lifetimes. It's important to work on them but unless you plan to start entering the research game and answering those questions, we work with what we've got. We're getting pieces and we treat with what pieces we know until we know more. 

Like the saying goes: when we know better, we do better.If you're asking those questions, it's a good bet the researchers and scientists have already asked them themselves. (I don't mean to imply that parents shouldn't ask questions, discuss or debate, only that we understand that there are no answers to many of those questions - the best we've got are more questions.)

~ Antiviral Therapy 101~ gryffinstail.wordpress.com/ ~

~ @Gryffins_Tail ~

 

This is interesting but there must be some other thing going on with respect to the deterioration of the immune function.

Maybe it is oxidative stress (due to aging and associated reasons in this case) decreasing the immune function leading to chronic viral state.Is virus just co-morbid or the underlying trigger?

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 3:26 PM

Subject: Antiviral drugs may slow Alzheimer's progression - acycolovir inhibits amyoid

 

Antiviral drugs may slow Alzheimer's progression

http://www.manchester.ac.uk/aboutus/news/display/?id=7543

Antiviral drugs used to target the herpes virus could be effective at

slowing the progression of Alzheimer's disease (AD), a new study shows.

The University of Manchester scientists have previously shown that the

herpes simplex virus type 1 (HSV1) is a risk factor for Alzheimer's when

it is present in the brains of people who have a specific genetic risk

to the disease.

AD is an incurable neurodegenerative condition affecting about 18

million people worldwide. The causes of the disease or of the abnormal

protein structures seen in AD brains – amyloid plaques and

neurofibrillary tangles – are completely unknown.

The Manchester team has established that the herpes virus causes

accumulation of two key AD proteins – â-amyloid (Aâ) and

abnormally phosphorylated tau (P-tau) – known to be the main

components of plaques and tangles respectively. Both proteins are

thought by many scientists to be involved in the development of the

disease.

" We have found that the viral DNA in AD brains is very specifically

located within amyloid plaques, " said Professor Ruth Itzhaki, who led

the team in the University's Faculty of Life Sciences. " This, together

with the production of amyloid that the virus induces, suggests that

HSV1 is a cause of toxic amyloid products and of plaques.

" Our results suggest that HSV1, together with the host genetic factor,

is a major risk for AD, and that antiviral agents might be used for

treating patients to slow disease progression. "

Currently available antiviral agents act by targeting replication of

HSV1 DNA, and so the researchers considered that they might be

successful in treating AD only if the accumulation of â-amyloid and

P-tau accumulation caused by the virus occurs at or after the stage at

which viral DNA replication occurs.

" If these proteins are produced independently of HSV1 replication,

antivirals might not be effective, " said Professor Itzhaki. " We

investigated this and found that treatment of HSV1-infected cells with

acyclovir, the most commonly used antiviral agent, and also with two

other antivirals, did indeed decrease the accumulation of â-amyloid

and P-tau, as well as decreasing HSV1 replication as we would expect.

" This is the first study investigating antiviral effects on AD-like

changes and we conclude that since antiviral agents reduce greatly

â-amyloid and P-tau levels in HSV1-infected cells, they would be

suitable for treating Alzheimer's disease. The great advantage over

current AD therapies is that acyclovir would target only the virus, not

the host cell or normal uninfected cells. Further, these agents are very

safe and are relatively inexpensive.

" Also, by targeting a cause of Alzheimer's disease, other viral damage,

besides â-amyloid and P-tau, which might be involved in the disease's

pathogenesis, would also be inhibited.

" The next stage of our research – subject to funding – will

focus on finding the most suitable antiviral agent – or combination

of two agents that operate via different mechanisms – for use as

treatment. We then need to investigate the way in which the virus and

the genetic risk factor interact to cause the disease, as that might

lead to further novel treatments.

" Eventually, we hope to begin clinical trials in humans but this is

still some way off yet and again will require new funding. "

The study, carried out with Dr Wozniak and other colleagues in

the Faculty of Life Sciences, is published in the Public Library of

Science (PLoS) One journal.

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I finally read the full paper but am still not convinced with the premise Natasa (not that it means much to convince me :) ).I understand that the viral replication is causing the formation of the plaque that leads to the disease process but why doesn't the immune system fight of virus like it is supposed to. The brains immune system should activate clean up cells that are infected by a virus and keep the brain free from infections (even chronic ones).As to BBB, viruses (or at least based on what I know) can easily cross usually attaching

themselves to cells of the immune system and also some (HSV6 for example) can move back from a peripheral nerve ending (like in the mouth) all the way to the CNS and remain dormant till a condition of stress where it will activate and flare up as a coldsore on the same nerve ending.Methinks oxidative stress or other metabolic issues cannot be ignored and blame put squarely on a virus - likely it is a complex interdependent disease process.The paper focuses on antivirals and that is a good breakthrough. Sometime wonder about the specificity needs of a research which limit advancement of more complex disorders - clearly Autism is a case in point where likely many processes are in play and no one studies the whole very well.To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 2:05 PMSubject: Re: Antiviral drugs may slow Alzheimer's progression - acycolovir inhibits amyoid

yes will said. the question is also a wrong question, as it doesn't have

much to do with impaired immune system at all! see my previous post on

accessing the paper... the key is the virus getting to the brain, and

getting reactivated by various stressors. Even when it goes back to its

latent/nonreplicative state it is STILL harmful.

Natasa

>

> >

> > This is interesting but there must be some other thing going on with

respect to the deterioration of the immune function.

> > Maybe it is oxidative stress (due to aging and associated reasons in

this case) decreasing the immune function leading to chronic viral

state.

> > Is virus just co-morbid or the underlying trigger?

> >

> > From: natasa778 neno@...

> > To: mb12valtrex

> > Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 3:26 PM

> > Subject: Antiviral drugs may slow Alzheimer's

progression - acycolovir inhibits amyoid

> >

> >

> >

> > Antiviral drugs may slow Alzheimer's progression

> >

> > http://www.manchester.ac.uk/aboutus/news/display/?id=7543

> >

> > Antiviral drugs used to target the herpes virus could be effective

at

> > slowing the progression of Alzheimer's disease (AD), a new study

shows.

> >

> > The University of Manchester scientists have previously shown that

the

> > herpes simplex virus type 1 (HSV1) is a risk factor for Alzheimer's

when

> > it is present in the brains of people who have a specific genetic

risk

> > to the disease.

> >

> > AD is an incurable neurodegenerative condition affecting about 18

> > million people worldwide. The causes of the disease or of the

abnormal

> > protein structures seen in AD brains – amyloid plaques and

> > neurofibrillary tangles – are completely unknown.

> >

> > The Manchester team has established that the herpes virus causes

> > accumulation of two key AD proteins – â-amyloid (Aâ) and

> > abnormally phosphorylated tau (P-tau) – known to be the main

> > components of plaques and tangles respectively. Both proteins are

> > thought by many scientists to be involved in the development of the

> > disease.

> >

> > "We have found that the viral DNA in AD brains is very specifically

> > located within amyloid plaques," said Professor Ruth Itzhaki, who

led

> > the team in the University's Faculty of Life Sciences. "This,

together

> > with the production of amyloid that the virus induces, suggests that

> > HSV1 is a cause of toxic amyloid products and of plaques.

> >

> > "Our results suggest that HSV1, together with the host genetic

factor,

> > is a major risk for AD, and that antiviral agents might be used for

> > treating patients to slow disease progression."

> >

> > Currently available antiviral agents act by targeting replication of

> > HSV1 DNA, and so the researchers considered that they might be

> > successful in treating AD only if the accumulation of â-amyloid

and

> > P-tau accumulation caused by the virus occurs at or after the stage

at

> > which viral DNA replication occurs.

> >

> > "If these proteins are produced independently of HSV1 replication,

> > antivirals might not be effective," said Professor Itzhaki. "We

> > investigated this and found that treatment of HSV1-infected cells

with

> > acyclovir, the most commonly used antiviral agent, and also with two

> > other antivirals, did indeed decrease the accumulation of

â-amyloid

> > and P-tau, as well as decreasing HSV1 replication as we would

expect.

> >

> > "This is the first study investigating antiviral effects on AD-like

> > changes and we conclude that since antiviral agents reduce greatly

> > â-amyloid and P-tau levels in HSV1-infected cells, they would be

> > suitable for treating Alzheimer's disease. The great advantage over

> > current AD therapies is that acyclovir would target only the virus,

not

> > the host cell or normal uninfected cells. Further, these agents are

very

> > safe and are relatively inexpensive.

> >

> > "Also, by targeting a cause of Alzheimer's disease, other viral

damage,

> > besides â-amyloid and P-tau, which might be involved in the

disease's

> > pathogenesis, would also be inhibited.

> >

> > "The next stage of our research – subject to funding – will

> > focus on finding the most suitable antiviral agent – or

combination

> > of two agents that operate via different mechanisms – for use as

> > treatment. We then need to investigate the way in which the virus

and

> > the genetic risk factor interact to cause the disease, as that might

> > lead to further novel treatments.

> >

> > "Eventually, we hope to begin clinical trials in humans but this is

> > still some way off yet and again will require new funding."

> >

> > The study, carried out with Dr Wozniak and other colleagues

in

> > the Faculty of Life Sciences, is published in the Public Library of

> > Science (PLoS) One journal.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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Brain is an immune priviledged site. You definitely would NOT won't the immune system to cross over and get activated there :)> >>> >> >> >> > This is interesting but there must be some other thing going on with> >respect to the deterioration of the immune function.> >> > Maybe it is oxidative stress (due to aging and associated reasons in> >this case) decreasing the immune function leading to chronic viral> >state.> >> > Is virus just co-morbid or the underlying trigger?> >> >> >> > From: natasa778 neno@> >> > To: mb12valtrex > >> > Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 3:26 PM> >> > Subject: Antiviral drugs may slow Alzheimer's> >progression - acycolovir inhibits amyoid> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Antiviral drugs may slow Alzheimer's progression> >> >> >> > http://www.manchester.ac.uk/aboutus/news/display/?id=7543> >> >> >> > Antiviral drugs used to target the herpes virus could be effective> >at> >> > slowing the progression of Alzheimer's disease (AD), a new study> >shows.> >> >> >> > The University of Manchester scientists have previously shown that> >the> >> > herpes simplex virus type 1 (HSV1) is a risk factor for Alzheimer's> >when> >> > it is present in the brains of people who have a specific genetic> >risk> >> > to the disease.> >> >> >> > AD is an incurable neurodegenerative condition affecting about 18> >> > million people worldwide. The causes of the disease or of the> >abnormal> >> > protein structures seen in AD brains â€" amyloid plaques and> >> > neurofibrillary tangles â€" are completely unknown.> >> >> >> > The Manchester team has established that the herpes virus causes> >> > accumulation of two key AD proteins â€" â-amyloid (Aâ) and> >> > abnormally phosphorylated tau (P-tau) â€" known to be the main> >> > components of plaques and tangles respectively. Both proteins are> >> > thought by many scientists to be involved in the development of the> >> > disease.> >> >> >> > "We have found that the viral DNA in AD brains is very specifically> >> > located within amyloid plaques," said Professor Ruth Itzhaki, who> >led> >> > the team in the University's Faculty of Life Sciences. "This,> >together> >> > with the production of amyloid that the virus induces, suggests that> >> > HSV1 is a cause of toxic amyloid products and of plaques.> >> >> >> > "Our results suggest that HSV1, together with the host genetic> >factor,> >> > is a major risk for AD, and that antiviral agents might be used for> >> > treating patients to slow disease progression."> >> >> >> > Currently available antiviral agents act by targeting replication of> >> > HSV1 DNA, and so the researchers considered that they might be> >> > successful in treating AD only if the accumulation of â-amyloid> >and> >> > P-tau accumulation caused by the virus occurs at or after the stage> >at> >> > which viral DNA replication occurs.> >> >> >> > "If these proteins are produced independently of HSV1 replication,> >> > antivirals might not be effective," said Professor Itzhaki. "We> >> > investigated this and found that treatment of HSV1-infected cells> >with> >> > acyclovir, the most commonly used antiviral agent, and also with two> >> > other antivirals, did indeed decrease the accumulation of> >â-amyloid> >> > and P-tau, as well as decreasing HSV1 replication as we would> >expect.> >> >> >> > "This is the first study investigating antiviral effects on AD-like> >> > changes and we conclude that since antiviral agents reduce greatly> >> > â-amyloid and P-tau levels in HSV1-infected cells, they would be> >> > suitable for treating Alzheimer's disease. The great advantage over> >> > current AD therapies is that acyclovir would target only the virus,> >not> >> > the host cell or normal uninfected cells. Further, these agents are> >very> >> > safe and are relatively inexpensive.> >> >> >> > "Also, by targeting a cause of Alzheimer's disease, other viral> >damage,> >> > besides â-amyloid and P-tau, which might be involved in the> >disease's> >> > pathogenesis, would also be inhibited.> >> >> >> > "The next stage of our research â€" subject to funding â€" will> >> > focus on finding the most suitable antiviral agent â€" or> >combination> >> > of two agents that operate via different mechanisms â€" for use as> >> > treatment. We then need to investigate the way in which the virus> >and> >> > the genetic risk factor interact to cause the disease, as that might> >> > lead to further novel treatments.> >> >> >> > "Eventually, we hope to begin clinical trials in humans but this is> >> > still some way off yet and again will require new funding."> >> >> >> > The study, carried out with Dr Wozniak and other colleagues> >in> >> > the Faculty of Life Sciences, is published in the Public Library of> >> > Science (PLoS) One journal.> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > > >> >>

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