Guest guest Posted April 2, 2012 Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 OK -- maybe I *am* crazy -- but when I was a kid (late '60's), when my mother was getting worse with the BPD (mostly waif behavior, but outbursts against my dad (who then left), my sister (who ran away) and me (the youngest)), and my dad had his own temper issues (in some respects due to my mom), I started having this creepy feeling that my world was fake. That everyone else were actors, like it was some big experiment on me to see how I would react. (Similar to the movie The Truman Show with Jim Carrey.) Even later in life (through high school) I would sometimes get that same creepy feeling -- especially when things became very surreal with my mother. So -- anyone else ever feel like that? Thanks -- Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2012 Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 That creepy feeling might be what they call dissociation. *dissociation* is a defense mechanism that everyone uses every day. Google it to see if it applies. It is not something to worry about, just normal when under so much stress. > OK -- maybe I *am* crazy -- but when I was a kid (late '60's), when my > mother was getting worse with the BPD (mostly waif behavior, but outbursts > against my dad (who then left), my sister (who ran away) and me (the > youngest)), and my dad had his own temper issues (in some respects due to > my mom), I started having this creepy feeling that my world was fake. That > everyone else were actors, like it was some big experiment on me to see how > I would react. (Similar to the movie The Truman Show with Jim Carrey.) > > Even later in life (through high school) I would sometimes get that same > creepy feeling -- especially when things became very surreal with my > mother. > > So -- anyone else ever feel like that? > > Thanks -- Dana > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2012 Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 << but when I was a kid (late '60's), when my mother was getting worse with the BPD (mostly waif behavior), but outbursts against my dad (who then left), ...  and me and my dad had his own temper issues (in some respects due to my mom), I started having this creepy feeling that my world was fake.>>  I had similar feelings, in that folks and my parents did not/would not see anything was wrong or unusual or aberrant within my FOO. Now I know it was their Denial and  that I was in a Child of Alcoholics scenario where my parents' drinking &  nada's BPD acting out and her bulimia were all thought to be within the range of normal behavior or were  to be tolerated. In typical undiagnosed BPD fashion, nada said the therapist they saw the one time was nuts and so she resisted attending any more sessions. To: WTOadult <WTOAdultChildren1 > Sent: Monday, April 2, 2012 3:25 PM Subject: Ever feel like you were in a made-up world? Like Jim Carrey in The Truman Show?  OK -- maybe I *am* crazy -- but when I was a kid (late '60's), when my mother was getting worse with the BPD (mostly waif behavior, but outbursts against my dad (who then left), my sister (who ran away) and me (the youngest)), and my dad had his own temper issues (in some respects due to my mom), I started having this creepy feeling that my world was fake. That everyone else were actors, like it was some big experiment on me to see how I would react. (Similar to the movie The Truman Show with Jim Carrey.) Even later in life (through high school) I would sometimes get that same creepy feeling -- especially when things became very surreal with my mother. So -- anyone else ever feel like that? Thanks -- Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2012 Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 I frequently felt like this. Not exactly like the Truman Show (excellent film, btw), but like something was amiss but everyone walked around it. Like the big elephant in the room. Now I absolutely abhor when people won't admit the obvious. And I'm having to go through a situation at work with a person who has been there for 20 years and never been qualified for her job. I am new, but was brought in to take things to the next level, and it's difficult for me because everyone is tiptoeing around how this person has been massively failing at a very important job for the past 20 years. The person does have skills, just not for the job she's in. I'm trying to figure out how to suggest that she be reclassified into a position that would be better for her skillset so we can actually move someone into her position who can do the job, but it's so frustrating, just like when I was a kid and no one would notice how insane my nada was. Everyone loved her, and would tell me how great my mother was. And I would just shrug and try not to vomit. So yes, the surreality of it all is difficult. I think as KOs we also specialize in escapism too. So getting into our real lives is difficult as well, you know? Here's to both of us healing! > > OK -- maybe I *am* crazy -- but when I was a kid (late '60's), when my > mother was getting worse with the BPD (mostly waif behavior, but outbursts > against my dad (who then left), my sister (who ran away) and me (the > youngest)), and my dad had his own temper issues (in some respects due to > my mom), I started having this creepy feeling that my world was fake. That > everyone else were actors, like it was some big experiment on me to see how > I would react. (Similar to the movie The Truman Show with Jim Carrey.) > > Even later in life (through high school) I would sometimes get that same > creepy feeling -- especially when things became very surreal with my mother. > > So -- anyone else ever feel like that? > > Thanks -- Dana > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 I never had the feeling that the entire world was fake, but I did have another weird feeling when I was growing up. Whenever I was in the bathroom, washing my face, using the toilet, taking a bath, etc., I always used to feel as if my parents had installed a hidden camera somewhere and were watching me. I guess it came from having the bathroom door opened so many times, having parents complain about how often I had to pee, and then I got to where I couldn't go if anyone was around. How long I took to go, to shower, how much water I used, etc. It got to the point where I quit taking showers and just washed up at the sink in high school. I looked down one day and discovered all this dry skin on my stomach from not bathing and realized I had to start taking showers again. One time I went all the way to the other end of their house from their bedroom, and took a birdie bath at the laundry tub using the *tiniest* trickle of water from the faucet to rinse the washcloth (do you have any idea how LONG that takes?), and nada *still* heard it and got up and yelled at me. It was always like, " Where are they? I know they're watching. What are they going to come in and yell at me about now. " I guess I wouldn't have put it past them to install a hidden camera, even at the tender age of 7 or 8. *sigh* The sheer AWFULNESS of growing up in that house. I am unemployed, but I would truly rather go homeless than ever go back there. Seriously. -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 (((((Roganda))))) The sheer awfulness you are describing is, in my opinion, actually emotional torture. And I think its...well, evil, to treat a helpless, dependent child like that; like a criminal. Or, treating a child like an unwanted burden they were forced against their will to adopt, behaving as though they resent their own child's very presence in the home. Like you don't have the right to occupy their space, breath their air, eat their food, AND you need to be watched all the time because you might steal something of theirs or do something disgusting or dirty that requires punishment. ( " You are a repulsive, miserable, disappointing burden and I am a living Saint for putting up with you at all, but I'm your Mother so be grateful that I love you anyway, you disgusting little piece of crap. " " I love you " delivered with a kick in the teeth. I grew up being terrified of " love. " ) My being viewed as a Golden Child or the Miserable Disappointment fluctuated with my nada's moods and feelings about herself. But way too often I too was made to feel that I was an unwanted burden, I was breathing too much air and using too much water and asking far too much from them. And I wasn't allowed to lock any inside door, either; my body didn't belong to me, even. I wish you and I and all children existing in such circumstances could have been rescued from that kind of " parenting. " Such individuals really should not have been raising children without intense supervision, they're not emotionally functional enough to be trusted with that responsibility. Those who lack the capacity for empathy (either cognitive empathy or affective empathy, or both) should not even be left alone with children, in my opinion. I dealt with it by shutting down my access to my emotions; I was kind of a robot-zombie. I think that's called depersonalization. My memories are intact, but I still don't have full access to my feelings and tend to just shut down entirely under stress, although I'm better than I used to be. -Annie > > I never had the feeling that the entire world was fake, but I did have another weird feeling when I was growing up. > > Whenever I was in the bathroom, washing my face, using the toilet, taking a bath, etc., I always used to feel as if my parents had installed a hidden camera somewhere and were watching me. > > I guess it came from having the bathroom door opened so many times, having parents complain about how often I had to pee, and then I got to where I couldn't go if anyone was around. How long I took to go, to shower, how much water I used, etc. > > It got to the point where I quit taking showers and just washed up at the sink in high school. I looked down one day and discovered all this dry skin on my stomach from not bathing and realized I had to start taking showers again. One time I went all the way to the other end of their house from their bedroom, and took a birdie bath at the laundry tub using the *tiniest* trickle of water from the faucet to rinse the washcloth (do you have any idea how LONG that takes?), and nada *still* heard it and got up and yelled at me. > > It was always like, " Where are they? I know they're watching. What are they going to come in and yell at me about now. " I guess I wouldn't have put it past them to install a hidden camera, even at the tender age of 7 or 8. > > *sigh* The sheer AWFULNESS of growing up in that house. I am unemployed, but I would truly rather go homeless than ever go back there. Seriously. > > -- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 this is not nuts (not quite anyway) it is a symptom of PTSD. I do it too. I learned about it at therapy. it is just one more way trauma victims protect themselves. Meikjn > > << but when I was a kid (late '60's), when my mother was getting worse with the BPD (mostly waif behavior), but outbursts against my dad (who then left), ...  and me and my dad had his own temper issues (in some respects due to my mom), I started having this creepy feeling that my world was fake.>> >  > I had similar feelings, in that folks and my parents did not/would not see anything was wrong or unusual or aberrant within my FOO. Now I know it was their Denial and  that I was in a Child of Alcoholics scenario where my parents' drinking &  nada's BPD acting out and her bulimia were all thought to be within the range of normal behavior or were  to be tolerated. In typical undiagnosed BPD fashion, nada said the therapist they saw the one time was nuts and so she resisted attending any more sessions. > > > > > To: WTOadult <WTOAdultChildren1 > > Sent: Monday, April 2, 2012 3:25 PM > Subject: Ever feel like you were in a made-up world? Like Jim Carrey in The Truman Show? > > >  > OK -- maybe I *am* crazy -- but when I was a kid (late '60's), when my > mother was getting worse with the BPD (mostly waif behavior, but outbursts > against my dad (who then left), my sister (who ran away) and me (the > youngest)), and my dad had his own temper issues (in some respects due to > my mom), I started having this creepy feeling that my world was fake. That > everyone else were actors, like it was some big experiment on me to see how > I would react. (Similar to the movie The Truman Show with Jim Carrey.) > > Even later in life (through high school) I would sometimes get that same > creepy feeling -- especially when things became very surreal with my mother. > > So -- anyone else ever feel like that? > > Thanks -- Dana > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 It seems almost impossible not to feel watched (or like you are in a movie) when, at any time, your behaviors, feelings, etc could be critiqued, criticized, etc...especially when the " rules " of the game always change too. Sometimes you are perfect and can do no wrong while other times you are horrible and can do no good. My feeling of being " watched " came more in a narcissitic kind of form (sadly). I alwasy felt like others were watching me or judging me (good or bad). In a way I felt like Truman in that I felt like I was the center of everyone's universe but not in a good way, in a very unsafe way. Since identifying this, I have been working on changing it. I have to admit it feels kind of lonely to no longer feel like people are watching, like I'm a cancelled tv show or something, but at the same time it feels healthier to let that go. Unfortunately, the problem remains that I often don't know if my behaviors, thoughts, feelings, etc, are " right " or not. I'm hoping to be able to change that as I try to build more trust in myself. > > > > I never had the feeling that the entire world was fake, but I did have another weird feeling when I was growing up. > > > > Whenever I was in the bathroom, washing my face, using the toilet, taking a bath, etc., I always used to feel as if my parents had installed a hidden camera somewhere and were watching me. > > > > I guess it came from having the bathroom door opened so many times, having parents complain about how often I had to pee, and then I got to where I couldn't go if anyone was around. How long I took to go, to shower, how much water I used, etc. > > > > It got to the point where I quit taking showers and just washed up at the sink in high school. I looked down one day and discovered all this dry skin on my stomach from not bathing and realized I had to start taking showers again. One time I went all the way to the other end of their house from their bedroom, and took a birdie bath at the laundry tub using the *tiniest* trickle of water from the faucet to rinse the washcloth (do you have any idea how LONG that takes?), and nada *still* heard it and got up and yelled at me. > > > > It was always like, " Where are they? I know they're watching. What are they going to come in and yell at me about now. " I guess I wouldn't have put it past them to install a hidden camera, even at the tender age of 7 or 8. > > > > *sigh* The sheer AWFULNESS of growing up in that house. I am unemployed, but I would truly rather go homeless than ever go back there. Seriously. > > > > -- > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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