Guest guest Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 I posted last week about our 15 month old who is showing red flags. Here's some more background: My oldest DS (5) is in Kindergarten. We started noticing signs in him right around when he turned 2 (first child...didn't know what to look for). We started GFCF when he was 2 years 10 months while we were waiting to see a DAN. Then started biomed with DAN. We have seen lots of improvements in his physical health (bowels are normal, eczema gone, etc.) but behavior improvements have been slow. He has improved though and with a lot of biomed, he is now fully included in Kindergarten with the teacher having no knowledge of his autism. He is doing well but still struggles with attention issues. At home we still notice scripting (even though he is fully conversation now) and lots of noises/singing along with the attention issues. We sort of took a step back on introducing any new supplements this year as we decided to start NAET to address food allergies and sensitivies (he was on a very restricted diet) and also to do far infrared sauna. We thought those were two big things and didn't want other stuff in the mix. He continued on previous supplements though. NAET has been wonderful at treating his food issues and he is now eating an unrestricted diet with no reactions at all. However, we haven't yet seen an improvement in lingering behaviors but we are still working on things with the NAET practitioner. We were so impressed with the improvement in his food issues that we then started our 15 month old on NAET even though he doesn't show any obvious signs of food issues. He is currently on treatment #12 of the basic 15. The problem that we are running into is that the NAET practitioner has energy tested both boys for the supplements that they are on (from our DAN doctor) and she is saying that many of them are doing more harm than good. For my older son, she is suggesting that we take him off of 75% of what he is on. We just don't know what to do. We are having a hard time reconciling the DAN/biomed protocol with the NAET protocol. Part of the problem is that she feels that synthetic supplements are not good on the body and yet that is what is recommended by most DAN doctors (and what is sold on the ourkidsasd website). So for example, with our younger son, we have an RBC mineral blood test which shows that he is extremely low in zinc so we started him on Kirkman's zinc. However, she shows that his body does not agree with that supplement and feels that now that he has been treated for minerals, his body should start absorbing zinc properly on its own. What are your thoughts? We are really torn by this. We really feel like our older son has plateaued from a behavior standpoint so maybe we should listen to her and give her plan a go? On the other hand, biomedical interventions have more research and support than NAET so maybe we would be wasting precious time by not moving forward with the DAN's suggestions. Help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 Go right to the food source! Find foods rich in zinc and include them in your meal plans. Try introducing food sources one at a time and slowly take away the supplements. You probably won't be able to swtich over to 100% food sources, unless your kids are super-adventurous in trying new foods (which most of our kids are not). Juicing is AWESOME. So aren't macrogreens. But if you do one at a time, it will give you a good opportunity to see what they are and aren't able to absorb and what might require an addtional boost with supplements. (Vitamin D is an excellent example. It's very hard for people in the northern hemisphere to manufacture in the winter and unless your kiddos eat lots of cod, chances are they're not making enough on their own). Also, our soil has become so mineral-starved, our foods aren't nearly as rich in nutrients as they once were. It's also worth noting that not all vitamins and minerals are "synthetic", rather they're "refined" (so to speak) -their compounds being pulled out of foods, plants, herbs etc. Still, most of the time whole food sources are always best. You can always juice/pulverize many plants, herbs, foods and encapsulate them yourself. You can buy empty capsules at Swanson's dirt cheap. Maybe you'll hear from a couple of people who frement food - which is supposed to be AMAZING - it's on my list... Hope this helps. -Tammy To: mb12valtrex Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 12:19 PMSubject: Questions for those of you who have done NAET or other energy healing I posted last week about our 15 month old who is showing red flags. Here's some more background:My oldest DS (5) is in Kindergarten. We started noticing signs in him right around when he turned 2 (first child...didn't know what to look for). We started GFCF when he was 2 years 10 months while we were waiting to see a DAN. Then started biomed with DAN. We have seen lots of improvements in his physical health (bowels are normal, eczema gone, etc.) but behavior improvements have been slow. He has improved though and with a lot of biomed, he is now fully included in Kindergarten with the teacher having no knowledge of his autism. He is doing well but still struggles with attention issues. At home we still notice scripting (even though he is fully conversation now) and lots of noises/singing along with the attention issues.We sort of took a step back on introducing any new supplements this year as we decided to start NAET to address food allergies and sensitivies (he was on a very restricted diet) and also to do far infrared sauna. We thought those were two big things and didn't want other stuff in the mix. He continued on previous supplements though. NAET has been wonderful at treating his food issues and he is now eating an unrestricted diet with no reactions at all. However, we haven't yet seen an improvement in lingering behaviors but we are still working on things with the NAET practitioner.We were so impressed with the improvement in his food issues that we then started our 15 month old on NAET even though he doesn't show any obvious signs of food issues. He is currently on treatment #12 of the basic 15.The problem that we are running into is that the NAET practitioner has energy tested both boys for the supplements that they are on (from our DAN doctor) and she is saying that many of them are doing more harm than good. For my older son, she is suggesting that we take him off of 75% of what he is on. We just don't know what to do. We are having a hard time reconciling the DAN/biomed protocol with the NAET protocol. Part of the problem is that she feels that synthetic supplements are not good on the body and yet that is what is recommended by most DAN doctors (and what is sold on the ourkidsasd website). So for example, with our younger son, we have an RBC mineral blood test which shows that he is extremely low in zinc so we started him on Kirkman's zinc. However, she shows that his body does not agree with that supplement and feels that now that he has been treated for minerals, his body should start absorbing zinc properly on its own.What are your thoughts? We are really torn by this. We really feel like our older son has plateaued from a behavior standpoint so maybe we should listen to her and give her plan a go? On the other hand, biomedical interventions have more research and support than NAET so maybe we would be wasting precious time by not moving forward with the DAN's suggestions.Help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 You won't know if the NAET practitioner is right unless you start pulling things (one at a time) and see how it goes. With that said, I've known several people to do it with either not long lasting results or no results at all so i'm not a big believer. I'm not saying i'm right. I say go with whatever you feel is working and if you feel NAET is and you're seeing results, who am I to poo poo that? You'll find out one way or another whether whatever you choose to do is working. ~Cheryl Sent from my EVO. These are not the typos you are looking for... I posted last week about our 15 month old who is showing red flags. Here's some more background: My oldest DS (5) is in Kindergarten. We started noticing signs in him right around when he turned 2 (first child...didn't know what to look for). We started GFCF when he was 2 years 10 months while we were waiting to see a DAN. Then started biomed with DAN. We have seen lots of improvements in his physical health (bowels are normal, eczema gone, etc.) but behavior improvements have been slow. He has improved though and with a lot of biomed, he is now fully included in Kindergarten with the teacher having no knowledge of his autism. He is doing well but still struggles with attention issues. At home we still notice scripting (even though he is fully conversation now) and lots of noises/singing along with the attention issues. We sort of took a step back on introducing any new supplements this year as we decided to start NAET to address food allergies and sensitivies (he was on a very restricted diet) and also to do far infrared sauna. We thought those were two big things and didn't want other stuff in the mix. He continued on previous supplements though. NAET has been wonderful at treating his food issues and he is now eating an unrestricted diet with no reactions at all. However, we haven't yet seen an improvement in lingering behaviors but we are still working on things with the NAET practitioner. We were so impressed with the improvement in his food issues that we then started our 15 month old on NAET even though he doesn't show any obvious signs of food issues. He is currently on treatment #12 of the basic 15. The problem that we are running into is that the NAET practitioner has energy tested both boys for the supplements that they are on (from our DAN doctor) and she is saying that many of them are doing more harm than good. For my older son, she is suggesting that we take him off of 75% of what he is on. We just don't know what to do. We are having a hard time reconciling the DAN/biomed protocol with the NAET protocol. Part of the problem is that she feels that synthetic supplements are not good on the body and yet that is what is recommended by most DAN doctors (and what is sold on the ourkidsasd website). So for example, with our younger son, we have an RBC mineral blood test which shows that he is extremely low in zinc so we started him on Kirkman's zinc. However, she shows that his body does not agree with that supplement and feels that now that he has been treated for minerals, his body should start absorbing zinc properly on its own. What are your thoughts? We are really torn by this. We really feel like our older son has plateaued from a behavior standpoint so maybe we should listen to her and give her plan a go? On the other hand, biomedical interventions have more research and support than NAET so maybe we would be wasting precious time by not moving forward with the DAN's suggestions. Help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 Unfortunately my youngest is having major food adversions (one of our red flags) so getting additional foods in is going to be extremely hard. Plus what about things like Enhansa? She says that my oldest son doesn't test well with Enhansa. Not all of the supplements are food based vitamins/minerals. I know there is turmeric but I can't put turmeric on everything and get the same absorption as Enhansa. Also, things like glutathione (transdermal), Custom Probiotics, CoQ10, etc. aren't going to be easily replaced with foods. ????? > > Go right to the food source! Find foods rich in zinc and include them in your meal plans. > Try introducing food sources one at a time and slowly take away the supplements. You probably won't be able to swtich over to 100% food sources, unless your kids are super-adventurous in trying new foods (which most of our kids are not). Juicing is AWESOME. So aren't macrogreens. But if you do one at a time, it will give you a good opportunity to see what they are and aren't able to absorb and what might require an addtional boost with supplements. (Vitamin D is an excellent example. It's very hard for people in the northern hemisphere to manufacture in the winter and unless your kiddos eat lots of cod, chances are they're not making enough on their own).  Also, our soil has become so mineral-starved, our foods aren't nearly as rich in nutrients as they once were.  It's also worth noting that not all vitamins and minerals are " synthetic " , rather they're " refined " (so to speak) -their compounds being pulled out of foods, plants, herbs > etc. Still, most of the time whole food sources are always best. You can always juice/pulverize many plants, herbs, foods and encapsulate them yourself. You can buy empty capsules at Swanson's dirt cheap.  Maybe you'll hear from a couple of people who frement food - which is supposed to be AMAZING - it's on my list... >  > Hope this helps. >  > -Tammy > > > To: mb12valtrex > Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 12:19 PM > Subject: Questions for those of you who have done NAET or other energy healing > > >  > I posted last week about our 15 month old who is showing red flags. Here's some more background: > > My oldest DS (5) is in Kindergarten. We started noticing signs in him right around when he turned 2 (first child...didn't know what to look for). We started GFCF when he was 2 years 10 months while we were waiting to see a DAN. Then started biomed with DAN. We have seen lots of improvements in his physical health (bowels are normal, eczema gone, etc.) but behavior improvements have been slow. He has improved though and with a lot of biomed, he is now fully included in Kindergarten with the teacher having no knowledge of his autism. He is doing well but still struggles with attention issues. At home we still notice scripting (even though he is fully conversation now) and lots of noises/singing along with the attention issues. > > We sort of took a step back on introducing any new supplements this year as we decided to start NAET to address food allergies and sensitivies (he was on a very restricted diet) and also to do far infrared sauna. We thought those were two big things and didn't want other stuff in the mix. He continued on previous supplements though. NAET has been wonderful at treating his food issues and he is now eating an unrestricted diet with no reactions at all. However, we haven't yet seen an improvement in lingering behaviors but we are still working on things with the NAET practitioner. > > We were so impressed with the improvement in his food issues that we then started our 15 month old on NAET even though he doesn't show any obvious signs of food issues. He is currently on treatment #12 of the basic 15. > > The problem that we are running into is that the NAET practitioner has energy tested both boys for the supplements that they are on (from our DAN doctor) and she is saying that many of them are doing more harm than good. For my older son, she is suggesting that we take him off of 75% of what he is on. We just don't know what to do. We are having a hard time reconciling the DAN/biomed protocol with the NAET protocol. Part of the problem is that she feels that synthetic supplements are not good on the body and yet that is what is recommended by most DAN doctors (and what is sold on the ourkidsasd website). So for example, with our younger son, we have an RBC mineral blood test which shows that he is extremely low in zinc so we started him on Kirkman's zinc. However, she shows that his body does not agree with that supplement and feels that now that he has been treated for minerals, his body should start absorbing zinc properly on its own. > > What are your thoughts? We are really torn by this. We really feel like our older son has plateaued from a behavior standpoint so maybe we should listen to her and give her plan a go? On the other hand, biomedical interventions have more research and support than NAET so maybe we would be wasting precious time by not moving forward with the DAN's suggestions. > > Help! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 I know what you mean about NAET. We heard a lot of conflicting stories about whether or not it worked. In the end, it seemed to us that whether it worked was largely based on the practitioner. We found a practitioner with A LOT of training and experience with it and we have had good results with the food allergies but not so much autism symptoms overall but we are still doing treatments. She shared a video with us though of kids who did a study of using 50 NAET treatments (which is a lot) and they videotaped the children at various points in the treatments. The " after " videos were extremely impressive! I guess like anything though...you have to find what works for your kid. After 3 years of biomed, it sure hasn't gotten any easier. > > > ** > > > > > > I posted last week about our 15 month old who is showing red flags. Here's > > some more background: > > > > My oldest DS (5) is in Kindergarten. We started noticing signs in him right > > around when he turned 2 (first child...didn't know what to look for). We > > started GFCF when he was 2 years 10 months while we were waiting to see a > > DAN. Then started biomed with DAN. We have seen lots of improvements in his > > physical health (bowels are normal, eczema gone, etc.) but behavior > > improvements have been slow. He has improved though and with a lot of > > biomed, he is now fully included in Kindergarten with the teacher having no > > knowledge of his autism. He is doing well but still struggles with attention > > issues. At home we still notice scripting (even though he is fully > > conversation now) and lots of noises/singing along with the attention > > issues. > > > > We sort of took a step back on introducing any new supplements this year as > > we decided to start NAET to address food allergies and sensitivies (he was > > on a very restricted diet) and also to do far infrared sauna. We thought > > those were two big things and didn't want other stuff in the mix. He > > continued on previous supplements though. NAET has been wonderful at > > treating his food issues and he is now eating an unrestricted diet with no > > reactions at all. However, we haven't yet seen an improvement in lingering > > behaviors but we are still working on things with the NAET practitioner. > > > > We were so impressed with the improvement in his food issues that we then > > started our 15 month old on NAET even though he doesn't show any obvious > > signs of food issues. He is currently on treatment #12 of the basic 15. > > > > The problem that we are running into is that the NAET practitioner has > > energy tested both boys for the supplements that they are on (from our DAN > > doctor) and she is saying that many of them are doing more harm than good. > > For my older son, she is suggesting that we take him off of 75% of what he > > is on. We just don't know what to do. We are having a hard time reconciling > > the DAN/biomed protocol with the NAET protocol. Part of the problem is that > > she feels that synthetic supplements are not good on the body and yet that > > is what is recommended by most DAN doctors (and what is sold on the > > ourkidsasd website). So for example, with our younger son, we have an RBC > > mineral blood test which shows that he is extremely low in zinc so we > > started him on Kirkman's zinc. However, she shows that his body does not > > agree with that supplement and feels that now that he has been treated for > > minerals, his body should start absorbing zinc properly on its own. > > > > What are your thoughts? We are really torn by this. We really feel like our > > older son has plateaued from a behavior standpoint so maybe we should listen > > to her and give her plan a go? On the other hand, biomedical interventions > > have more research and support than NAET so maybe we would be wasting > > precious time by not moving forward with the DAN's suggestions. > > > > Help! > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 I think both Cheryl and Tammy had good advice I'll pitch in my two cents worth. We take H* to an Applied Kinesiologist who uses muscle testing. He is reknowned in his field -teaches all over the world- and has been able to make a difference when nothing else could.That being said, when we started this biomed journey and experimented with natural antivirals a year or so ago, he said these were not helping - waste of time . I told him I rieally thought they were, and I did see a difference and we continued. Within a few months of taking each: OLE, lauricidin, lysine, the muscle testing changed and they did strengthen H*. Dr S still sort of scratches his head. My thinking is that our childrens immune systems/nervous systems may not immediately notice things that can potentially help them/ or harm them for that matter. Keep a journal and record what you see if you decide to remove the supplements.Hope this is helpful,Sent from my iPhone You won't know if the NAET practitioner is right unless you start pulling things (one at a time) and see how it goes. With that said, I've known several people to do it with either not long lasting results or no results at all so i'm not a big believer. I'm not saying i'm right. I say go with whatever you feel is working and if you feel NAET is and you're seeing results, who am I to poo poo that? You'll find out one way or another whether whatever you choose to do is working. ~Cheryl Sent from my EVO. These are not the typos you are looking for... I posted last week about our 15 month old who is showing red flags. Here's some more background: My oldest DS (5) is in Kindergarten. We started noticing signs in him right around when he turned 2 (first child...didn't know what to look for). We started GFCF when he was 2 years 10 months while we were waiting to see a DAN. Then started biomed with DAN. We have seen lots of improvements in his physical health (bowels are normal, eczema gone, etc.) but behavior improvements have been slow. He has improved though and with a lot of biomed, he is now fully included in Kindergarten with the teacher having no knowledge of his autism. He is doing well but still struggles with attention issues. At home we still notice scripting (even though he is fully conversation now) and lots of noises/singing along with the attention issues. We sort of took a step back on introducing any new supplements this year as we decided to start NAET to address food allergies and sensitivies (he was on a very restricted diet) and also to do far infrared sauna. We thought those were two big things and didn't want other stuff in the mix. He continued on previous supplements though. NAET has been wonderful at treating his food issues and he is now eating an unrestricted diet with no reactions at all. However, we haven't yet seen an improvement in lingering behaviors but we are still working on things with the NAET practitioner. We were so impressed with the improvement in his food issues that we then started our 15 month old on NAET even though he doesn't show any obvious signs of food issues. He is currently on treatment #12 of the basic 15. The problem that we are running into is that the NAET practitioner has energy tested both boys for the supplements that they are on (from our DAN doctor) and she is saying that many of them are doing more harm than good. For my older son, she is suggesting that we take him off of 75% of what he is on. We just don't know what to do. We are having a hard time reconciling the DAN/biomed protocol with the NAET protocol. Part of the problem is that she feels that synthetic supplements are not good on the body and yet that is what is recommended by most DAN doctors (and what is sold on the ourkidsasd website). So for example, with our younger son, we have an RBC mineral blood test which shows that he is extremely low in zinc so we started him on Kirkman's zinc. However, she shows that his body does not agree with that supplement and feels that now that he has been treated for minerals, his body should start absorbing zinc properly on its own. What are your thoughts? We are really torn by this. We really feel like our older son has plateaued from a behavior standpoint so maybe we should listen to her and give her plan a go? On the other hand, biomedical interventions have more research and support than NAET so maybe we would be wasting precious time by not moving forward with the DAN's suggestions. Help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 Right, which is exactly why 100% food source might be extremely difficult. With that said, Enhansa/turmeric/curcumin isn't the only anti-inflammatory food out there. There's oodles and oodles of foods. I've got a list somewhere I'll try to track down. Probiotics can be accomplished very easily with kefir and fremented foods. Someone just mentioned the other day that e.coli in the gut is required to manufacture COQ10 (something worth reading up on). The biggest problem being picky eaters which is why so many of us have to rely heavily on supplements. In a perfect world, our kids would sit down and eat a plate of proteins, green leafy veggies, organic berries and a little bit of fruit for for a treat. Shopping and preparing foods would be very easy and affordable and we'd have healthy kids. If only it was that easy... I just recently ready about a study where scientists took a group of rats and made them addicted to junk food. After some time, they took away all the junk and sugar and offered only vegetables. The rats would rather starve than eat the veggies. That's pretty alarming. To: mb12valtrex Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 1:13 PMSubject: Re: Questions for those of you who have done NAET or other energy healing Unfortunately my youngest is having major food adversions (one of our red flags) so getting additional foods in is going to be extremely hard. :(Plus what about things like Enhansa? She says that my oldest son doesn't test well with Enhansa. Not all of the supplements are food based vitamins/minerals. I know there is turmeric but I can't put turmeric on everything and get the same absorption as Enhansa. Also, things like glutathione (transdermal), Custom Probiotics, CoQ10, etc. aren't going to be easily replaced with foods. ?????>> Go right to the food source! Find foods rich in zinc and include them in your meal plans. > Try introducing food sources one at a time and slowly take away the supplements. You probably won't be able to swtich over to 100% food sources, unless your kids are super-adventurous in trying new foods (which most of our kids are not). Juicing is AWESOME. So aren't macrogreens. But if you do one at a time, it will give you a good opportunity to see what they are and aren't able to absorb and what might require an addtional boost with supplements. (Vitamin D is an excellent example. It's very hard for people in the northern hemisphere to manufacture in the winter and unless your kiddos eat lots of cod, chances are they're not making enough on their own).  Also, our soil has become so mineral-starved, our foods aren't nearly as rich in nutrients as they once were.  It's also worth noting that not all vitamins and minerals are "synthetic", rather they're "refined" (so to speak) -their compounds being pulled out of foods, plants, herbs> etc. Still, most of the time whole food sources are always best. You can always juice/pulverize many plants, herbs, foods and encapsulate them yourself. You can buy empty capsules at Swanson's dirt cheap.  Maybe you'll hear from a couple of people who frement food - which is supposed to be AMAZING - it's on my list...>  > Hope this helps.>  > -Tammy> > > To: mb12valtrex > Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 12:19 PM> Subject: Questions for those of you who have done NAET or other energy healing> > >  > I posted last week about our 15 month old who is showing red flags. Here's some more background:> > My oldest DS (5) is in Kindergarten. We started noticing signs in him right around when he turned 2 (first child...didn't know what to look for). We started GFCF when he was 2 years 10 months while we were waiting to see a DAN. Then started biomed with DAN. We have seen lots of improvements in his physical health (bowels are normal, eczema gone, etc.) but behavior improvements have been slow. He has improved though and with a lot of biomed, he is now fully included in Kindergarten with the teacher having no knowledge of his autism. He is doing well but still struggles with attention issues. At home we still notice scripting (even though he is fully conversation now) and lots of noises/singing along with the attention issues.> > We sort of took a step back on introducing any new supplements this year as we decided to start NAET to address food allergies and sensitivies (he was on a very restricted diet) and also to do far infrared sauna. We thought those were two big things and didn't want other stuff in the mix. He continued on previous supplements though. NAET has been wonderful at treating his food issues and he is now eating an unrestricted diet with no reactions at all. However, we haven't yet seen an improvement in lingering behaviors but we are still working on things with the NAET practitioner.> > We were so impressed with the improvement in his food issues that we then started our 15 month old on NAET even though he doesn't show any obvious signs of food issues. He is currently on treatment #12 of the basic 15.> > The problem that we are running into is that the NAET practitioner has energy tested both boys for the supplements that they are on (from our DAN doctor) and she is saying that many of them are doing more harm than good. For my older son, she is suggesting that we take him off of 75% of what he is on. We just don't know what to do. We are having a hard time reconciling the DAN/biomed protocol with the NAET protocol. Part of the problem is that she feels that synthetic supplements are not good on the body and yet that is what is recommended by most DAN doctors (and what is sold on the ourkidsasd website). So for example, with our younger son, we have an RBC mineral blood test which shows that he is extremely low in zinc so we started him on Kirkman's zinc. However, she shows that his body does not agree with that supplement and feels that now that he has been treated for minerals, his body should start absorbing zinc properly on its own.> > What are your thoughts? We are really torn by this. We really feel like our older son has plateaued from a behavior standpoint so maybe we should listen to her and give her plan a go? On the other hand, biomedical interventions have more research and support than NAET so maybe we would be wasting precious time by not moving forward with the DAN's suggestions.> > Help!> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 Hi, can someone please tell me more about NAET? I am not familiar with it. My son is 30 mths, labeled PDD.Thanks much,DebTo: mb12valtrex From: teresaemail2003@...Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 17:18:17 +0000Subject: Re: Questions for those of you who have done NAET or other energy healing I know what you mean about NAET. We heard a lot of conflicting stories about whether or not it worked. In the end, it seemed to us that whether it worked was largely based on the practitioner. We found a practitioner with A LOT of training and experience with it and we have had good results with the food allergies but not so much autism symptoms overall but we are still doing treatments. She shared a video with us though of kids who did a study of using 50 NAET treatments (which is a lot) and they videotaped the children at various points in the treatments. The "after" videos were extremely impressive! I guess like anything though...you have to find what works for your kid. After 3 years of biomed, it sure hasn't gotten any easier. > > > ** > > > > > > I posted last week about our 15 month old who is showing red flags. Here's > > some more background: > > > > My oldest DS (5) is in Kindergarten. We started noticing signs in him right > > around when he turned 2 (first child...didn't know what to look for). We > > started GFCF when he was 2 years 10 months while we were waiting to see a > > DAN. Then started biomed with DAN. We have seen lots of improvements in his > > physical health (bowels are normal, eczema gone, etc.) but behavior > > improvements have been slow. He has improved though and with a lot of > > biomed, he is now fully included in Kindergarten with the teacher having no > > knowledge of his autism. He is doing well but still struggles with attention > > issues. At home we still notice scripting (even though he is fully > > conversation now) and lots of noises/singing along with the attention > > issues. > > > > We sort of took a step back on introducing any new supplements this year as > > we decided to start NAET to address food allergies and sensitivies (he was > > on a very restricted diet) and also to do far infrared sauna. We thought > > those were two big things and didn't want other stuff in the mix. He > > continued on previous supplements though. NAET has been wonderful at > > treating his food issues and he is now eating an unrestricted diet with no > > reactions at all. However, we haven't yet seen an improvement in lingering > > behaviors but we are still working on things with the NAET practitioner. > > > > We were so impressed with the improvement in his food issues that we then > > started our 15 month old on NAET even though he doesn't show any obvious > > signs of food issues. He is currently on treatment #12 of the basic 15. > > > > The problem that we are running into is that the NAET practitioner has > > energy tested both boys for the supplements that they are on (from our DAN > > doctor) and she is saying that many of them are doing more harm than good. > > For my older son, she is suggesting that we take him off of 75% of what he > > is on. We just don't know what to do. We are having a hard time reconciling > > the DAN/biomed protocol with the NAET protocol. Part of the problem is that > > she feels that synthetic supplements are not good on the body and yet that > > is what is recommended by most DAN doctors (and what is sold on the > > ourkidsasd website). So for example, with our younger son, we have an RBC > > mineral blood test which shows that he is extremely low in zinc so we > > started him on Kirkman's zinc. However, she shows that his body does not > > agree with that supplement and feels that now that he has been treated for > > minerals, his body should start absorbing zinc properly on its own. > > > > What are your thoughts? We are really torn by this. We really feel like our > > older son has plateaued from a behavior standpoint so maybe we should listen > > to her and give her plan a go? On the other hand, biomedical interventions > > have more research and support than NAET so maybe we would be wasting > > precious time by not moving forward with the DAN's suggestions. > > > > Help! > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 Several years ago, I had given a dying friend of mine a ride to a massage therapist. While sitting in the waiting room, I came across a book on NAET. I asked the massage therapist " Do you know anyone who practices NAET? " She said, " Bioset is the new NAET. Try that. " And she gave me the name of a local practitioner of Bioset. I used her services for myself and my daughter. Even though it was cheap, I couldn't afford to continue too long, so I shouldn't be judgmental about its effectiveness. The practitioner was Elisa Blesch. Her website is healinginsideout.info. > > > Hi, can someone please tell me more about NAET? I am not familiar with it. My son is 30 mths, labeled PDD. > > Thanks much, > > Deb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2011 Report Share Posted November 1, 2011 Stupid gmail... I am just getting this thread now, um, 13 days after it was sent?One way you can try to test things is to just decrease them for a bit. It doesn't have to be black and white. :-)So if NAET lady is saying zinc is too hard on one of them, lower the dose or divide the dose if possible. There's also " ionic mineral " type products that have balances, maybe the kids would test ok for those.I think pumpkin seeds are good for zinc, not completely sure. But check into it. I use the 's brand with the kids. They are cheap and convenient, but unfortunately they are very salty. What I have done is baked up some plain seeds and/orbought some plain or seasoned pepitas (shell-removed pumpkin seeds) and made a mix with the 's. If you still think your child won't be interested in the seeds, get him involved in the process. Make a big deal of it. Go to Walmart or whatever grocery and find a pie pumpkin, have him pick it out. Have him help you prep it for baking. Have him dig out the seeds and wash them, etc. If we are still talking about the 15 month old, then obviouslyyou have to reduce the size of the tasks, but he can pick it out and do his best to scoop/clean a batch of seeds. Kids have no idea you are doing 98% of the work when you give them 10 seeds to wash. LOLAfter you spend " a day " at this task, he will likely be excited to try his creation. And you'll get some fresh pumpkin baked for pumpkin pie too. :-) (GF crust or just baked in a ramekin)I am not a cook at all, but I can handle some squash. LOL It's probably the one food I don't fear. ;-) I posted last week about our 15 month old who is showing red flags. Here's some more background: My oldest DS (5) is in Kindergarten. We started noticing signs in him right around when he turned 2 (first child...didn't know what to look for). We started GFCF when he was 2 years 10 months while we were waiting to see a DAN. Then started biomed with DAN. We have seen lots of improvements in his physical health (bowels are normal, eczema gone, etc.) but behavior improvements have been slow. He has improved though and with a lot of biomed, he is now fully included in Kindergarten with the teacher having no knowledge of his autism. He is doing well but still struggles with attention issues. At home we still notice scripting (even though he is fully conversation now) and lots of noises/singing along with the attention issues. We sort of took a step back on introducing any new supplements this year as we decided to start NAET to address food allergies and sensitivies (he was on a very restricted diet) and also to do far infrared sauna. We thought those were two big things and didn't want other stuff in the mix. He continued on previous supplements though. NAET has been wonderful at treating his food issues and he is now eating an unrestricted diet with no reactions at all. However, we haven't yet seen an improvement in lingering behaviors but we are still working on things with the NAET practitioner. We were so impressed with the improvement in his food issues that we then started our 15 month old on NAET even though he doesn't show any obvious signs of food issues. He is currently on treatment #12 of the basic 15. The problem that we are running into is that the NAET practitioner has energy tested both boys for the supplements that they are on (from our DAN doctor) and she is saying that many of them are doing more harm than good. For my older son, she is suggesting that we take him off of 75% of what he is on. We just don't know what to do. We are having a hard time reconciling the DAN/biomed protocol with the NAET protocol. Part of the problem is that she feels that synthetic supplements are not good on the body and yet that is what is recommended by most DAN doctors (and what is sold on the ourkidsasd website). So for example, with our younger son, we have an RBC mineral blood test which shows that he is extremely low in zinc so we started him on Kirkman's zinc. However, she shows that his body does not agree with that supplement and feels that now that he has been treated for minerals, his body should start absorbing zinc properly on its own. What are your thoughts? We are really torn by this. We really feel like our older son has plateaued from a behavior standpoint so maybe we should listen to her and give her plan a go? On the other hand, biomedical interventions have more research and support than NAET so maybe we would be wasting precious time by not moving forward with the DAN's suggestions. Help! Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2011 Report Share Posted November 1, 2011 We tried NAET for my son but the progress was slow and it was fairly expensive so we gave up when our money dried up.sallyTo: mb12valtrex Sent: Thu, October 20, 2011 12:04:05 PMSubject: Re: Questions for those of you who have done NAET or other energy healing Several years ago, I had given a dying friend of mine a ride to a massage therapist. While sitting in the waiting room, I came across a book on NAET. I asked the massage therapist "Do you know anyone who practices NAET?" She said, "Bioset is the new NAET. Try that." And she gave me the name of a local practitioner of Bioset. I used her services for myself and my daughter. Even though it was cheap, I couldn't afford to continue too long, so I shouldn't be judgmental about its effectiveness. The practitioner was Elisa Blesch. Her website is healinginsideout.info. > > > Hi, can someone please tell me more about NAET? I am not familiar with it. My son is 30 mths, labeled PDD. > > Thanks much, > > Deb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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