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My older brother and I both recieved the brunt of my mothers illness. He

because he was the first, dislexic and independent. Me, because I am female and

she had a neglectful and mentally abusive mother.

My older brother has found a way to coexist. He is there but does not engage.

I think, unconsiously he has set firm boundaries. I am geographically separated

and seem to be getting the full force of her discontent.

She is worse now that my Dad is dying. I am her dung child. She is tormenting

my Dad with how rotten I am. I think her abandonment fears have blossomed and

she is railing against him through me. But he can't keep the peace.

My dad is coming to my city to get experimental cancer treatments. She won't

come. Partly because of the cost and partly because of me.

My younger two brothers are the golden children. I love them, I envy them.

Their children are the stars and the moon. Life is unfair.

My mother has sought treatment, is on anti-depressants, has had kind moments and

absolutely rotten ones. She is gifted, smart and fragile. She can be

empathetic with friends, full of information and she can explode in a heart

beat. I find only after a conversation that I thought went well; that I blew

it.

It is the never knowing that drives me batty. It is literally bending down to

pick up a fork and being told that that was a horrible thing to do; that it is

her house and her fork and how could I?

Insanity breeds insanity. Normality becomes the fiction. Heck I don't even know

what normal is. I have never been accepted for myself. What does that feel

like? To be well and truely loved? To not worry about every word or action.

I bought my folks opera tickets because they said they enjoyed the opera. I was

accused by my mom of trying to BUY her. Exactly where did that come from. She

says I have something wrong with me because I try to do things for people. And

that any one who does something for someone wants something.

She is wrong. That is what make a better world. Helping caring and giving

without reguard for reward. But it is wrong when I do that and only right when

she does it.

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(((((dragonbird)))))

I " hear " the pain in your post. I could have written your post, my own nada

behaves so similarly to yours. You have a lot of insight already, about why

your bpd mother acts and things and speaks the way she does.

Like your mother, mine was always projecting her own interior landscape of

thoughts and feelings onto me. I was often accused of possessing her own

negative, unwanted thoughts and feelings. My Sister and I fairly recently,

were able to joke with each other about this with each other on the phone. I

said, " Well, I'm very pleased to meet you, Liar; my name is Ingrate. "

Its hard to accept that we're bereft of the unconditional love from our mother

that most children take for granted, and that we will never have this; our

mothers are not capable of giving us that, because of their particular form of

mental illness.

You will probably go through a true grieving process, pretty much identical to

grieving the physical death of your parent, at some point, but you will be

grieving the loss of the hope that your mother will have some kind of miraculous

epiphany and transform into " the good mother. "

The 5 stages of grief are:

Denial- " there's nothing wrong, everything's fine "

Anger - " Why me? Its not fair! " Who is to blame for this!? "

Bargaining - " I'll do anything to make this not true, to fix this. "

Depression - " Why bother with doing anything, what's the point? "

Acceptance - " I can't fight this or change it, so I might as well accept it and

prepare for it. "

My suggestion is that if you can wrap your head around the realty that its not

your fault that your mother treats you the way she does, NOT your fault that you

were designated as " dung " child, that you are a good and worthy person who did

not deserve such treatment,

that will go a long way toward helping you process your trauma and grief.

Every child deserves to be wanted, every child deserves unconditional love from

their parents, and in my opinion every child deserves parents who are not

severely mentally ill, emotionally retarded and emotionally negligent,

withholding or abusive toward their child; you and most of us here were robbed

of that birthright. Its not your fault.

Knowing that you're not alone in this can help, and sometimes a good therapist

can help us work through this stuff a little faster than we can on our own,

seems to me.

-Annie

>

> My older brother and I both recieved the brunt of my mothers illness. He

because he was the first, dislexic and independent. Me, because I am female and

she had a neglectful and mentally abusive mother.

>

> My older brother has found a way to coexist. He is there but does not engage.

I think, unconsiously he has set firm boundaries. I am geographically separated

and seem to be getting the full force of her discontent.

>

> She is worse now that my Dad is dying. I am her dung child. She is

tormenting my Dad with how rotten I am. I think her abandonment fears have

blossomed and she is railing against him through me. But he can't keep the

peace.

>

> My dad is coming to my city to get experimental cancer treatments. She won't

come. Partly because of the cost and partly because of me.

>

> My younger two brothers are the golden children. I love them, I envy them.

Their children are the stars and the moon. Life is unfair.

>

> My mother has sought treatment, is on anti-depressants, has had kind moments

and absolutely rotten ones. She is gifted, smart and fragile. She can be

empathetic with friends, full of information and she can explode in a heart

beat. I find only after a conversation that I thought went well; that I blew

it.

>

> It is the never knowing that drives me batty. It is literally bending down to

pick up a fork and being told that that was a horrible thing to do; that it is

her house and her fork and how could I?

>

> Insanity breeds insanity. Normality becomes the fiction. Heck I don't even

know what normal is. I have never been accepted for myself. What does that

feel like? To be well and truely loved? To not worry about every word or action.

>

> I bought my folks opera tickets because they said they enjoyed the opera. I

was accused by my mom of trying to BUY her. Exactly where did that come from.

She says I have something wrong with me because I try to do things for people.

And that any one who does something for someone wants something.

>

> She is wrong. That is what make a better world. Helping caring and giving

without reguard for reward. But it is wrong when I do that and only right when

she does it.

>

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It is so very nice to be heard and that you and the folks in this group take the

time to respond. Thank you

Teri

> (((((dragonbird)))))

>

> I " hear " the pain in your post. I could have written your post, my own nada

behaves so similarly to yours. You have a lot of insight already, about why your

bpd mother acts and things and speaks the way she does.

>

> Like your mother, mine was always projecting her own interior landscape of

thoughts and feelings onto me. I was often accused of possessing her own

negative, unwanted thoughts and feelings. My Sister and I fairly recently, were

able to joke with each other about this with each other on the phone. I said,

" Well, I'm very pleased to meet you, Liar; my name is Ingrate. "

>

> Its hard to accept that we're bereft of the unconditional love from our mother

that most children take for granted, and that we will never have this; our

mothers are not capable of giving us that, because of their particular form of

mental illness.

>

> You will probably go through a true grieving process, pretty much identical to

grieving the physical death of your parent, at some point, but you will be

grieving the loss of the hope that your mother will have some kind of miraculous

epiphany and transform into " the good mother. "

>

> The 5 stages of grief are:

> Denial- " there's nothing wrong, everything's fine "

> Anger - " Why me? Its not fair! " Who is to blame for this!? "

> Bargaining - " I'll do anything to make this not true, to fix this. "

> Depression - " Why bother with doing anything, what's the point? "

> Acceptance - " I can't fight this or change it, so I might as well accept it

and prepare for it. "

>

> My suggestion is that if you can wrap your head around the realty that its not

your fault that your mother treats you the way she does, NOT your fault that you

were designated as " dung " child, that you are a good and worthy person who did

not deserve such treatment,

> that will go a long way toward helping you process your trauma and grief.

>

> Every child deserves to be wanted, every child deserves unconditional love

from their parents, and in my opinion every child deserves parents who are not

severely mentally ill, emotionally retarded and emotionally negligent,

withholding or abusive toward their child; you and most of us here were robbed

of that birthright. Its not your fault.

>

> Knowing that you're not alone in this can help, and sometimes a good therapist

can help us work through this stuff a little faster than we can on our own,

seems to me.

>

> -Annie

>

>

> >

> > My older brother and I both recieved the brunt of my mothers illness. He

because he was the first, dislexic and independent. Me, because I am female and

she had a neglectful and mentally abusive mother.

> >

> > My older brother has found a way to coexist. He is there but does not

engage. I think, unconsiously he has set firm boundaries. I am geographically

separated and seem to be getting the full force of her discontent.

> >

> > She is worse now that my Dad is dying. I am her dung child. She is

tormenting my Dad with how rotten I am. I think her abandonment fears have

blossomed and she is railing against him through me. But he can't keep the

peace.

> >

> > My dad is coming to my city to get experimental cancer treatments. She won't

come. Partly because of the cost and partly because of me.

> >

> > My younger two brothers are the golden children. I love them, I envy them.

Their children are the stars and the moon. Life is unfair.

> >

> > My mother has sought treatment, is on anti-depressants, has had kind moments

and absolutely rotten ones. She is gifted, smart and fragile. She can be

empathetic with friends, full of information and she can explode in a heart

beat. I find only after a conversation that I thought went well; that I blew it.

> >

> > It is the never knowing that drives me batty. It is literally bending down

to pick up a fork and being told that that was a horrible thing to do; that it

is her house and her fork and how could I?

> >

> > Insanity breeds insanity. Normality becomes the fiction. Heck I don't even

know what normal is. I have never been accepted for myself. What does that feel

like? To be well and truely loved? To not worry about every word or action.

> >

> > I bought my folks opera tickets because they said they enjoyed the opera. I

was accused by my mom of trying to BUY her. Exactly where did that come from.

She says I have something wrong with me because I try to do things for people.

And that any one who does something for someone wants something.

> >

> > She is wrong. That is what make a better world. Helping caring and giving

without reguard for reward. But it is wrong when I do that and only right when

she does it.

> >

>

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