Nitrous oxide for dental work?

[Guest guest]

Well, we just got back from the dentist and my son has a cavity. She wants to

use nitrous oxide. I explained to her that my son is deficient in B-12 and has

to have twice-weekly shots and she is not concerned. Thinks I am nuts. She may

be right, but I don't think about this:) I know I have seen something saying

that kids with b12 deficiency should not have nitrous...does anyone have those

citations? What are other options you all have used? I am terrified of a

regression...they " accidentally " gave him fluoride today and I think it's

contributing to the 2 hour long meltdown he just had over finding out he has a

cavity.

Thank you,

Amie

[Guest guest]

If they won't work with you, find another dentist. Pamela From: mb12valtrex [mailto:mb12valtrex ] On Behalf Of AmieRSent: Monday, October 24, 2011 2:01 PMTo: mb12valtrex Subject: Nitrous oxide for dental work? Well, we just got back from the dentist and my son has a cavity. She wants to use nitrous oxide. I explained to her that my son is deficient in B-12 and has to have twice-weekly shots and she is not concerned. Thinks I am nuts. She may be right, but I don't think about this:) I know I have seen something saying that kids with b12 deficiency should not have nitrous...does anyone have those citations? What are other options you all have used? I am terrified of a regression...they " accidentally " gave him fluoride today and I think it's contributing to the 2 hour long meltdown he just had over finding out he has a cavity. Thank you,Amie

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I think the summary attached is helpful. I agree with Pamela, find another dentist. Cavities are not an emergency. Take your time and find someone who doesn't dismiss you out of ignorance.Best,Sylvia

If they won't work with you, find another dentist. Pamela From: mb12valtrex [mailto:mb12valtrex ] On Behalf Of AmieRSent: Monday, October 24, 2011 2:01 PMTo: mb12valtrex Subject: Nitrous oxide for dental work? Well, we just got back from the dentist and my son has a cavity. She wants to use nitrous oxide. I explained to her that my son is deficient in B-12 and has to have twice-weekly shots and she is not concerned. Thinks I am nuts. She may be right, but I don't think about this:) I know I have seen something saying that kids with b12 deficiency should not have nitrous...does anyone have those citations? What are other options you all have used? I am terrified of a regression...they "accidentally" gave him fluoride today and I think it's contributing to the 2 hour long meltdown he just had over finding out he has a cavity. Thank you,Amie

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Anesthesia and Autism.pdf

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I think the summary attached is helpful. I agree with Pamela, find another dentist. Cavities are not an emergency. Take your time and find someone who doesn't dismiss you out of ignorance.Best,Sylvia

If they won't work with you, find another dentist. Pamela From: mb12valtrex [mailto:mb12valtrex ] On Behalf Of AmieRSent: Monday, October 24, 2011 2:01 PMTo: mb12valtrex Subject: Nitrous oxide for dental work? Well, we just got back from the dentist and my son has a cavity. She wants to use nitrous oxide. I explained to her that my son is deficient in B-12 and has to have twice-weekly shots and she is not concerned. Thinks I am nuts. She may be right, but I don't think about this:) I know I have seen something saying that kids with b12 deficiency should not have nitrous...does anyone have those citations? What are other options you all have used? I am terrified of a regression...they "accidentally" gave him fluoride today and I think it's contributing to the 2 hour long meltdown he just had over finding out he has a cavity. Thank you,Amie

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Anesthesia and Autism.pdf

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Yep. Forget that mess. Print out the anesthesia paper from autism.com and hand it to her as you fire her. http://www.autism.com/fam_AnesthesiaandtheAutisticchild.asp

 

If they won't work with you, find another dentist. 

Pamela 

From: mb12valtrex [mailto:mb12valtrex ] On Behalf Of AmieR

Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 2:01 PMTo: mb12valtrex Subject: Nitrous oxide for dental work?

   Well, we just got back from the dentist and my son has a cavity. She wants to use nitrous oxide. I explained to her that my son is deficient in B-12 and has to have twice-weekly shots and she is not concerned. Thinks I am nuts. She may be right, but I don't think about this:) I know I have seen something saying that kids with b12 deficiency should not have nitrous...does anyone have those citations? What are other options you all have used? I am terrified of a regression...they " accidentally " gave him fluoride today and I think it's contributing to the 2 hour long meltdown he just had over finding out he has a cavity.

Thank you,Amie

-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

[Guest guest]

I'm sure you have the articles by now. Just wanted to let you know NO sent my

son into catatonia that took a year of biomed to bring him out of.

>

> Well, we just got back from the dentist and my son has a cavity. She wants to

use nitrous oxide. I explained to her that my son is deficient in B-12 and has

to have twice-weekly shots and she is not concerned. Thinks I am nuts. She may

be right, but I don't think about this:) I know I have seen something saying

that kids with b12 deficiency should not have nitrous...does anyone have those

citations? What are other options you all have used? I am terrified of a

regression...they " accidentally " gave him fluoride today and I think it's

contributing to the 2 hour long meltdown he just had over finding out he has a

cavity.

>

> Thank you,

> Amie

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks to all who responded. My gut was telling me to avoid NO and now it's

telling me to take him to MY mercury-free dentist that will not give me grief-my

son will just have to trade dinosaur murals for sound health, oh well...What do

you all do when your children have to have dental work and can't use NO? I do

want to get the cavity taken care of before it gets worse.

> >

> > Well, we just got back from the dentist and my son has a cavity. She wants

to use nitrous oxide. I explained to her that my son is deficient in B-12 and

has to have twice-weekly shots and she is not concerned. Thinks I am nuts. She

may be right, but I don't think about this:) I know I have seen something

saying that kids with b12 deficiency should not have nitrous...does anyone have

those citations? What are other options you all have used? I am terrified of a

regression...they " accidentally " gave him fluoride today and I think it's

contributing to the 2 hour long meltdown he just had over finding out he has a

cavity.

> >

> > Thank you,

> > Amie

> >

>

[Guest guest]

we lost a year of development in our son as well with NO and he went phychotic, and violent and developed PANDAS after its use and has been harder then autism to treat and undo

From: CGF

Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 9:49 PM

To: mb12valtrex

Subject: Re: Nitrous oxide for dental work?

I'm sure you have the articles by now. Just wanted to let you know NO sent my son into catatonia that took a year of biomed to bring him out of.>> Well, we just got back from the dentist and my son has a cavity. She wants to use nitrous oxide. I explained to her that my son is deficient in B-12 and has to have twice-weekly shots and she is not concerned. Thinks I am nuts. She may be right, but I don't think about this:) I know I have seen something saying that kids with b12 deficiency should not have nitrous...does anyone have those citations? What are other options you all have used? I am terrified of a regression...they "accidentally" gave him fluoride today and I think it's contributing to the 2 hour long meltdown he just had over finding out he has a cavity. > > Thank you,> Amie>

[Guest guest]

we lost a year of development in our son as well with NO and he went phychotic, and violent and developed PANDAS after its use and has been harder then autism to treat and undo

From: CGF

Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 9:49 PM

To: mb12valtrex

Subject: Re: Nitrous oxide for dental work?

I'm sure you have the articles by now. Just wanted to let you know NO sent my son into catatonia that took a year of biomed to bring him out of.>> Well, we just got back from the dentist and my son has a cavity. She wants to use nitrous oxide. I explained to her that my son is deficient in B-12 and has to have twice-weekly shots and she is not concerned. Thinks I am nuts. She may be right, but I don't think about this:) I know I have seen something saying that kids with b12 deficiency should not have nitrous...does anyone have those citations? What are other options you all have used? I am terrified of a regression...they "accidentally" gave him fluoride today and I think it's contributing to the 2 hour long meltdown he just had over finding out he has a cavity. > > Thank you,> Amie>

[Guest guest]

they don't NEED NO you can use things like ISOflorine and SEVOflorine bases instead. however they are both floride based. but floride products also typically contain milk in them too, so it may be a milk infraction. I would call to ask for the number to get ingredients. the articals you are looking for on www.autism.com site under the sedation info. I also Have 2 artiacals and websites I can send you too on more info of what NOT to use and what TO use with mito kids (which are the ones low in b12 that can't do NO because of an MTHFR mutation that would quickly deplete b12 causing damage) send me an email off group and I will forward those pages to you. missvermont94@...

From: CGF

Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 9:49 PM

To: mb12valtrex

Subject: Re: Nitrous oxide for dental work?

I'm sure you have the articles by now. Just wanted to let you know NO sent my son into catatonia that took a year of biomed to bring him out of.>> Well, we just got back from the dentist and my son has a cavity. She wants to use nitrous oxide. I explained to her that my son is deficient in B-12 and has to have twice-weekly shots and she is not concerned. Thinks I am nuts. She may be right, but I don't think about this:) I know I have seen something saying that kids with b12 deficiency should not have nitrous...does anyone have those citations? What are other options you all have used? I am terrified of a regression...they "accidentally" gave him fluoride today and I think it's contributing to the 2 hour long meltdown he just had over finding out he has a cavity. > > Thank you,> Amie>

[Guest guest]

they don't NEED NO you can use things like ISOflorine and SEVOflorine bases instead. however they are both floride based. but floride products also typically contain milk in them too, so it may be a milk infraction. I would call to ask for the number to get ingredients. the articals you are looking for on www.autism.com site under the sedation info. I also Have 2 artiacals and websites I can send you too on more info of what NOT to use and what TO use with mito kids (which are the ones low in b12 that can't do NO because of an MTHFR mutation that would quickly deplete b12 causing damage) send me an email off group and I will forward those pages to you. missvermont94@...

From: CGF

Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 9:49 PM

To: mb12valtrex

Subject: Re: Nitrous oxide for dental work?

I'm sure you have the articles by now. Just wanted to let you know NO sent my son into catatonia that took a year of biomed to bring him out of.>> Well, we just got back from the dentist and my son has a cavity. She wants to use nitrous oxide. I explained to her that my son is deficient in B-12 and has to have twice-weekly shots and she is not concerned. Thinks I am nuts. She may be right, but I don't think about this:) I know I have seen something saying that kids with b12 deficiency should not have nitrous...does anyone have those citations? What are other options you all have used? I am terrified of a regression...they "accidentally" gave him fluoride today and I think it's contributing to the 2 hour long meltdown he just had over finding out he has a cavity. > > Thank you,> Amie>

[Guest guest]

We have a very patient and kind dentist who is good with kids with special

needs. I hold my son's hand lovingly.

For extractions, we go to the OR.

My son's oral pain is the root of his anorexia.

> >

> > Well, we just got back from the dentist and my son has a cavity. She wants

to use nitrous oxide. I explained to her that my son is deficient in B-12 and

has to have twice-weekly shots and she is not concerned. Thinks I am nuts. She

may be right, but I don't think about this:) I know I have seen something

saying that kids with b12 deficiency should not have nitrous...does anyone have

those citations? What are other options you all have used? I am terrified of a

regression...they " accidentally " gave him fluoride today and I think it's

contributing to the 2 hour long meltdown he just had over finding out he has a

cavity.

> >

> > Thank you,

> > Amie

> >

>

[Guest guest]

My sons have all their dental work done in the operating room. Do I not have to worry about nitrous oxide if that is the case?

Thanks Dianne

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2011 6:54:21 PMSubject: Re: Nitrous oxide for dental work?

We have a very patient and kind dentist who is good with kids with special needs. I hold my son's hand lovingly.For extractions, we go to the OR.My son's oral pain is the root of his anorexia.> >> > Well, we just got back from the dentist and my son has a cavity. She wants to use nitrous oxide. I explained to her that my son is deficient in B-12 and has to have twice-weekly shots and she is not concerned. Thinks I am nuts. She may be right, but I don't think about this:) I know I have seen something saying that kids with b12 deficiency should not have nitrous...does anyone have those citations? What are other options you all have used? I am terrified of a regression...they "accidentally" gave him fluoride today and I think it's contributing to the 2 hour long meltdown he just had over finding out he has a cavity. > > > > Thank you,> > Amie> >>

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That depends.....if you don't specify that he can't have it to the anesthesiologist, sometimes they use it to get them out quickly and then use something else or start and IV.......I would always specify to both the dentist AND the anesthesiologist.  I told them that my son has a MTHFR deletion and they asked no questions......

Kasey

 

My sons have all their dental work done in the operating room.  Do I not have to worry about nitrous oxide if that is the case?

Thanks Dianne

To: mb12valtrex

Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2011 6:54:21 PMSubject: Re: Nitrous oxide for dental work?

 

We have a very patient and kind dentist who is good with kids with special needs. I hold my son's hand lovingly.For extractions, we go to the OR.My son's oral pain is the root of his anorexia.

> >> > Well, we just got back from the dentist and my son has a cavity. She wants to use nitrous oxide. I explained to her that my son is deficient in B-12 and has to have twice-weekly shots and she is not concerned. Thinks I am nuts. She may be right, but I don't think about this:) I know I have seen something saying that kids with b12 deficiency should not have nitrous...does anyone have those citations? What are other options you all have used? I am terrified of a regression...they " accidentally " gave him fluoride today and I think it's contributing to the 2 hour long meltdown he just had over finding out he has a cavity.

> > > > Thank you,> > Amie> >>

[Guest guest]

Yes, we discuss the case with both the dentist and the anesthesiologist.

I did threaten to have one anesthesiologist removed from a case and she changed

her mind. This was a GI procedure, not oral.

> > >

> > > Is there another option besides NOxide???...

[Guest guest]

Yep - fire her...dentists are a dime a dozen, altho good ones who actually can think instead of just drill-n-fill all day are kinda scarce on the ground...and tell her why, too (otherwise the effects are somewhat reduced altho protecting your child is paramount)

RE: Nitrous oxide for dental work?

If they won't work with you, find another dentist.

Pamela

From: mb12valtrex [mailto:mb12valtrex ] On Behalf Of AmieRSent: Monday, October 24, 2011 2:01 PMTo: mb12valtrex Subject: Nitrous oxide for dental work?

Well, we just got back from the dentist and my son has a cavity. She wants to use nitrous oxide. I explained to her that my son is deficient in B-12 and has to have twice-weekly shots and she is not concerned. Thinks I am nuts. She may be right, but I don't think about this:) I know I have seen something saying that kids with b12 deficiency should not have nitrous...does anyone have those citations? What are other options you all have used? I am terrified of a regression...they "accidentally" gave him fluoride today and I think it's contributing to the 2 hour long meltdown he just had over finding out he has a cavity. Thank you,Amie