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My nada called today, sounding worried, and asked whether my

sister was all right. Her explanation for this was that she'd

had a dream that something bad happened to her. Does this mean

that she thinks her dreams are prophetic now? My sister hasn't

had any contact with her since she graduated from college in

2005. She joined the military and never told nada how to get in

touch with her so nada has no way of reaching her except through

me and no way of finding out anything about her unless some

relative tells her. I don't tell her much at all and no one else

who might talk to her is within 2,500 miles so they don't

exactly have much firsthand information to pass on. If this

dream business was a way to try to extract information from me,

it failed. What it did accomplish was to annoy me.

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Oh yeah, I get that bs too. I don't call for 4 days and I get " I was so worried

about you! " When I remind nada that I am almost 40, with my own family and

career, and that I needn't check in with her every damn day the story becomes

" don't you care how lonely I am? I have no friends! " When I enforce my

boundaries " I am not your friend, I am not your counselor or your social

planner, I am your daughter " , her irrational rage emerges and we go NC. There

have been 3 similar cycles in 3 months, after 2 yrs of relatively peaceful

relations.

You're totally right, they never give up.

I've been NC before for years: years in my teens (emancipated thank god) and

yearsI in my 20s, then again for 3 yrs in my early thirties. Now that I am a

parent, I am leaning toward permanent NC. I see her manipulation of my son and

I can't allow it. One less grandparent is better than 10 abusive ones.

The emotional manipulation will never cease. Good for you for recognizing it

and enforcing your boundaries.

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> My nada called today, sounding worried, and asked whether my

> sister was all right. Her explanation for this was that she'd

> had a dream that something bad happened to her. Does this mean

> that she thinks her dreams are prophetic now? My sister hasn't

> had any contact with her since she graduated from college in

> 2005. She joined the military and never told nada how to get in

> touch with her so nada has no way of reaching her except through

> me and no way of finding out anything about her unless some

> relative tells her. I don't tell her much at all and no one else

> who might talk to her is within 2,500 miles so they don't

> exactly have much firsthand information to pass on. If this

> dream business was a way to try to extract information from me,

> it failed. What it did accomplish was to annoy me.

>

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> Katrina Knight

> kk1raven@...

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Maybe time for a boundary that you don't discuss Sister at all?

If sister wanted her to know things about her life, she'd tell your mother

herself.

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I've been thinking about this. I've decided that if she does

something like this one more time, that's it. Trying to ban her

from asking about my sister at all would be a huge battle that

I'd rather not have to engage in if it isn't necessary. (Some

things are easier to put up with than they are to try to

change.) She's already been banned from bad-mouthing my sister,

and from excess whining about my sister's lack of contact, which

does cause me to have to abruptly end conversations with her

every so often. She's also been shown repeatedly that I won't

give her much information beyond " she's fine " . There are a few

bits and pieces of general information that my sister and I

decided I can tell her if she asks directly. If she doesn't ask

directly, I'm not volunteering anything. Luckily it doesn't seem

to have occurred to her to try to extract contact information

from our brother. I don't know what he'd do if asked for that

information.

At 12:05 PM 04/11/2012 svaktshka wrote:

>Maybe time for a boundary that you don't discuss Sister at all?

>

>

>If sister wanted her to know things about her life, she'd tell

>your mother herself.

>

>Sveta

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My brother is NC with our nada and I need to reinforce the no talking about him

boundary again. I've been kind of lax on those things lately and need to get my

crap together again. Thanks for this post, Katrina.

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> >Maybe time for a boundary that you don't discuss Sister at all?

> >

> >

> >If sister wanted her to know things about her life, she'd tell

> >your mother herself.

> >

> >Sveta

> >

>

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> Katrina

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I understand what you mean about there being one more thing to battle over and

understand if that's not worth it to you.

Maybe you can just redirect her focus. " I'm not going to talk to you about

Sister. But if you are so worried about her that you are feeling sick, maybe it

would be helpful for you to talk to a professional therapist about it. "

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Good point! " She's fine, but if you're having nightmares about

it, perhaps you should see a professional who can teach you how

to deal with your fears. " Oh yes, the thought of saying that is

pleasing. I'm sure the reality would be far less pleasing, but

the thought is satisfying. Mostly, what I do when she presses

the subject of my sister is point out that she's the one who

kicked my sister out at 2 AM with just the clothes on her back

and her purse and no transportation other than her feet. Her

response to that is always to deny having done it but when I

point out that I saw the letter she wrote telling my sister not

to come back, there's not much more she can say, and if she

keeps trying, that counts as violating my boundaries. I just

hope she doesn't repeat this nonsense of calling me about her

bad dreams. I'm really not feeling very tolerant right now.

At 03:13 PM 04/13/2012 svaktshka wrote:

>I understand what you mean about there being one more thing to

>battle over and understand if that's not worth it to you.

>

>Maybe you can just redirect her focus. " I'm not going to talk

>to you about Sister. But if you are so worried about her that

>you are feeling sick, maybe it would be helpful for you to talk

>to a professional therapist about it. "

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