Help with Anxiety

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Hi everyone!

My 9 year old son has been struggling with anxiety and I am at a loss about what

to do for him. His anxiety is very specific and it revolves around being late,

not getting his school work done at the same time as his peers, eating lunch

super fast so he won't miss recess, being late for school, etc. Visual timers

have helped a bit but his fear is irrational. He will scream in class if his

peers are finished before him ( " I'm going to be late " ) without evening looking

around the room to notice that other peers are still working. I put him on

Theanine 100 mg in the morning and it was working great but I think it has lost

its effect. I just increased to 200 mg today. Gaba has been suggested but years

ago he responded horribly to it. His anxiety is really affecting his school day

and I am seriously thinking about RX medicine. Can anyone with anxiety

experience help me? I should also mention that I had the exact same anxiety as a

kid and eventually had to go on RX medication because the anxiety turned to

depression (started medication in my 20's but probably should have started a lot

earlier).

Thanks,

Dayna

[Guest guest]

For anxiety you could try behavioral supports, 5-HTP, Valerian Root Extract, GABA. For some kids the naturals won't be enough. Pamela From: mb12valtrex [mailto:mb12valtrex ] On Behalf Of DaynaSent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 10:39 AMTo: mb12valtrex Subject: Help with Anxiety Hi everyone!My 9 year old son has been struggling with anxiety and I am at a loss about what to do for him. His anxiety is very specific and it revolves around being late, not getting his school work done at the same time as his peers, eating lunch super fast so he won't miss recess, being late for school, etc. Visual timers have helped a bit but his fear is irrational. He will scream in class if his peers are finished before him ( " I'm going to be late " ) without evening looking around the room to notice that other peers are still working. I put him on Theanine 100 mg in the morning and it was working great but I think it has lost its effect. I just increased to 200 mg today. Gaba has been suggested but years ago he responded horribly to it. His anxiety is really affecting his school day and I am seriously thinking about RX medicine. Can anyone with anxiety experience help me? I should also mention that I had the exact same anxiety as a kid and eventually had to go on RX medication because the anxiety turned to depression (started medication in my 20's but probably should have started a lot earlier). Thanks,Dayna

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I was afraid to try SSRI with my kids, and I haven't. However I have found a natural combo of vitamins/supp that are helping with serotonin. So, I think ultimately they probably would be ok with an SSRI... if we need to move that way.

But I just wanted to let you know sometimes you can do the naturals... it's just SO HARD to find what works. It took me18 months of a lot of trial and error.FWIW, we are using (among many other things) 5-htp (w/b6) and magnesium. My mornings have never been calmer.

I get these in them first (me too) and then we are all in the right " mood " for the rest of the routine.The other things we are using are high dose B vitamins. You have to tweak them up or down, add/subtract magnesium,

zinc etc as needed per symptoms. So it is tricky and a pain in the butt at times. I can definitely see why SSRI prescriptionsstill have their use!Good luck whatever you choose!

 

Dayna,Have you considered using an SSRI?  It was and still is amazing for my kid.  Did you know SSRI’s are immune modulators that help the immune system?.  My son is recovered but still takes an SSRI, Antivirals and antifungals.  He finished college, did an internship for NASA and is now doing a master’s that NASA is paying for.  He has been on these meds in one form or another since he was five.  Medications are not always bad.  I think of it like someone who has to take Insulin to control their diabetes.  Would I rather not have to give him these meds?  Yes, but he is living a wonderful and productive life as a result.  I was told there was nothing I could do for him and he would most likely end up in a group home or institution.  Wow, thank goodness I didn’t listen to the “Autism experts”

Best,Marcia

-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

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is,We first started with Prozac. Next we moved to Celexa and now he takes Lexapro.Hope that helps.M

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Sema,This is a summary of what we did with the NIDS approach. I wrote this when another parent asked me to summarize what we did for her doctor. You might want to check Dr. G’s book I think he lists dosages but be warned it is very medical and not really easy for us moms to understand. Here is a link to the video explaining autism in medical terms. http://www.nids.net/?page_id=57Also check out Dr G’s website at NIDS.net.There is some good info there. You might also want to join Nids Please know your son can get better with proper medical treatment and then rehabilitation. No parent should accept that their child cannot be helped. is living proof that kids can get better. I too had to go against accepted practice to help my son. As for the meds, it was very scary to me to put my kid on pharmaceuticals. In the beginning I was also worried about what the medicines would do long term. That was when Dr. G asked me if my child had diabetes would I give him insulin? Our kids are sick and until the big cure comes along, they need these meds to make them healthy. That is why we do blood tests every two months to catch any potential things that can become problematic. In the 16 years my son has been doing this all his liver functions have all been normal. I had to take a risk if my son was going to have any chance at all at life. I couldn’t let him stay autistic with no hope for a normal existence. Just realize every child has different medical needs. And the causes of their autistic symptoms (that are truly Neuroimmune dysfunction and for most not autism at all) are different too. The viral issues were big for . If this disease was the same for everyone autism would have been cured already. Treating these kids medically is difficult and works best when someone is trained in the NiDS approach. For my kid and most, Dr Goldberg and Dr. only institute one change at time to make sure they know what is working and that they are not overtaxing a child’s immune system. They usually start off with an antiviral medication ( Usually Valtrex or Famvir) at the correct dose: a dose strong enough to fight the viruses and not weak enough to cause a resistance to these meds later. Next, is usually an antifungal to control yeast. But these docs use the big guns like Nizoral or Diflucan. At the same time they try to take the stress off the immune system by addressing diet and other allergies or anything that could help cool it down. In addition, they treat for sinusitis and any other health issues. And finally he adds an SSRI (like Prozac,Celexa, or Lexapro or whatever he thinks your child will respond best to ) at a very small dose to modulate the immune system not to control behavior. SSRI’s are immune modulators. Some kids use tenex and other meds depending on their medical labs etc. Also some of our kids have blood work that show ferriton deficiencies, so many have to take iron. and This aids in correcting things like the problem they have with food textures or always eating the same thing. For children with low NK cells he prescribes Immunivir.My son, , was diagnosed when he was four years old. A psychiatrist who was the leading authority on autism said my child would never be okay. According to this expert, was going to end up in an institution or group home. Now at 22, the only institution attends is Santa Clara University where he studies mechanical engineering on a merit scholarship. excels academically and is in the Engineering Honor Society (top 10% GPA). He‘s a member of Sigma Chi Fraternity and was president of the Jewish Student Association. And he just received a NASA paid internship and scholarship. But more importantly, is a typical college student who drinks an occasional beer, goes on dates, stays out too late with friends and then sleeps through eight o’clock classes. I couldn’t be more proud!Unbelievable as it seems, this is the same child who wanted to spend all day, every day, plugging in a portable radio into each outlet in the house. Back then, I wasn’t sure if I had the strength to be more stubborn than my son. There were mornings I didn’t want to get out of bed to face another day filled with autism. The worst times were when I didn’t have a direction or a plan. I was hanging onto my sanity by my fingernails. But, at the end of the day, I was faced with a choice: let drift off forever into his own world, or drag him kicking and screaming into ours.After we helped medically, it was possible for him to learn. Behavioral and educational interventions were used in conjunction with the medical treatment to catch up on everything he missed. Initially, we used Applied Behavior Analysis (ABA) for his rehabilitation and when he was ready we moved towards more natural ways of teaching. It took years to correct ’s deficits in speech and social skills. It was almost like taking a stroke victim and bringing them back. Our story is not about coping with autism, but rather fighting back and not accepting the misconceptions associated with this diagnosis. This process is definitely not for sissies or parents looking for that magic or instant cure. Hope this helps,Marcia

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DEnviado desde mi BlackBerry® de VodafoneSender: mb12valtrex Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 22:06:06 -0400To: <mb12valtrex >ReplyTo: mb12valtrex Subject: Re: Help with Anxiety Oh yes, we also give advil in the am too. We're at a point where my son (17) has his anxiety pretty well managed with a morning cocktail of supps including magnesium for its calming effect. He carries Bach's Rescue Remedy spray in his backpack and uses it every morning as he walks into the school. He was 9 when he had his first PANDAS exacerbation. There have been times when no amount of GABA, theanine, mag, inositol or any other supp would help at all and we had to rely on clonazepam. It was a life saver (literally) for us, he's used it many times over the last 8 years and we've NEVER had any addiction issues with it. When he no longer needs it, we stop using it. He doesn't like the way it makes him feel now (groggy, disconnected) but in times of true crisis I've been so thankful we have it. During his middle schoolexacerbation, Diflucan did a great job within 2 wks of getting his anxiety to lessen. Epsom salts baths are still huge for him, he takes one (with his iPod) most nights as soon as autumn arrives. Have you tried advil before school to see if that helps anxiety? If it does, you may want to consider a trial of NeuroProtek. Mine is an advil responder and I really like what I see with NeuroProtek though it would be helpful if I could strike oil in the back yard to continue to pay for it. Best wishes ~ GayleTo: mb12valtrex Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 1:23 PMSubject: RE: Help with Anxiety For anxiety you could try behavioral supports, 5-HTP, Valerian Root Extract, GABA.  For some kids the naturals won't be enough.  Pamela  From: mb12valtrex [mailto:mb12valtrex ] On Behalf Of DaynaSent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 10:39 AMTo:mb12valtrex Subject: Help with Anxiety    Hi everyone!My 9 year old son has been struggling with anxiety and I am at a loss about what to do for him. His anxiety is very specific and it revolves around being late, not getting his school work done at the same time as his peers, eating lunch super fast so he won't miss recess, being late for school, etc. Visual timers have helped a bit but his fear is irrational. He will scream in class if his peers are finished before him ( " I'm going to be late " ) without evening looking around the room to notice that other peers are still working. I put him on Theanine 100 mg in the morning and it was working great but I think it has lost itseffect. I just increased to 200 mg today. Gaba has been suggested but years ago he responded horribly to it. His anxiety is really affecting his school day and I am seriously thinking about RX medicine. Can anyone with anxiety experience help me? I should also mention that I had the exact same anxiety as a kid and eventually had to go on RX medication because the anxiety turned to depression (started medication in my 20's but probably should have started a lot earlier). Thanks,Dayna -- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

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DDEnviado desde mi BlackBerry® de VodafoneSender: mb12valtrex Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 22:06:06 -0400To: <mb12valtrex >ReplyTo: mb12valtrex Subject: Re: Help with Anxiety Oh yes, we also give advil in the am too. We're at a point where my son (17) has his anxiety pretty well managed with a morning cocktail of supps including magnesium for its calming effect. He carries Bach's Rescue Remedy spray in his backpack and uses it every morning as he walks into the school. He was 9 when he had his first PANDAS exacerbation. There have been times when no amount of GABA, theanine, mag, inositol or any other supp would help at all and we had to rely on clonazepam. It was a life saver (literally) for us, he's used it many times over the last 8 years and we've NEVER had any addiction issues with it. When he no longer needs it, we stop using it. He doesn't like the way it makes him feel now (groggy, disconnected) but in times of true crisis I've been so thankful we have it. During his middle schoolexacerbation, Diflucan did a great job within 2 wks of getting his anxiety to lessen. Epsom salts baths are still huge for him, he takes one (with his iPod) most nights as soon as autumn arrives. Have you tried advil before school to see if that helps anxiety? If it does, you may want to consider a trial of NeuroProtek. Mine is an advil responder and I really like what I see with NeuroProtek though it would be helpful if I could strike oil in the back yard to continue to pay for it. Best wishes ~ GayleTo: mb12valtrex Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 1:23 PMSubject: RE: Help with Anxiety For anxiety you could try behavioral supports, 5-HTP, Valerian Root Extract, GABA.  For some kids the naturals won't be enough.  Pamela  From: mb12valtrex [mailto:mb12valtrex ] On Behalf Of DaynaSent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 10:39 AMTo:mb12valtrex Subject: Help with Anxiety    Hi everyone!My 9 year old son has been struggling with anxiety and I am at a loss about what to do for him. His anxiety is very specific and it revolves around being late, not getting his school work done at the same time as his peers, eating lunch super fast so he won't miss recess, being late for school, etc. Visual timers have helped a bit but his fear is irrational. He will scream in class if his peers are finished before him ( " I'm going to be late " ) without evening looking around the room to notice that other peers are still working. I put him on Theanine 100 mg in the morning and it was working great but I think it has lost itseffect. I just increased to 200 mg today. Gaba has been suggested but years ago he responded horribly to it. His anxiety is really affecting his school day and I am seriously thinking about RX medicine. Can anyone with anxiety experience help me? I should also mention that I had the exact same anxiety as a kid and eventually had to go on RX medication because the anxiety turned to depression (started medication in my 20's but probably should have started a lot earlier). Thanks,Dayna -- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

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We found that our son's depression/anxiety were controlled with products that addressed inflammation. For years that was Repair Gold Enzymes: 4 capsules in am & pm. on an empty stomach. He had been on meds but they did not help him that much; he still cycled high/low constantly and he put on weight which caused him more anxiety.You might check out the RG enzymes just to see if treating inflammation helps (or not); then you will know another piece of his puzzle.sallyTo: mb12valtrex Sent: Fri, October 28, 2011 7:17:29 AMSubject: Re: Help with Anxiety

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Oh yes, we also give advil in the am too.

We're at a point where my son (17) has his anxiety pretty well managed with a morning cocktail of supps including magnesium for its calming effect. He carries Bach's Rescue Remedy spray in his backpack and uses it every morning as he walks into the school. He was 9 when he had his first PANDAS exacerbation. There have been times when no amount of GABA, theanine, mag, inositol or any other supp would help at all and we had to rely on clonazepam. It was a life saver (literally) for us, he's used it many times over the last 8 years and we've NEVER had any addiction issues with it. When he no longer needs it, we stop using it. He doesn't like the way it makes him feel now (groggy, disconnected) but in times of true crisis I've been so thankful we have it. During his middle school

exacerbation, Diflucan did a great job within 2 wks of getting his anxiety to lessen. Epsom salts baths are still huge for him, he takes one (with his iPod) most nights as soon as autumn arrives. Have you tried advil before school to see if that helps anxiety? If it does, you may want to consider a trial of NeuroProtek. Mine is an advil responder and I really like what I see with NeuroProtek though it would be helpful if I could strike oil in the back yard to continue to pay for it. Best wishes ~ Gayle

To: mb12valtrex

Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 1:23 PMSubject: RE: Help with Anxiety

For anxiety you could try behavioral supports, 5-HTP, Valerian Root Extract, GABA. For some kids the naturals won't be enough.

Pamela

From: mb12valtrex [mailto:mb12valtrex ] On Behalf Of Dayna

Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 10:39 AMTo:

mb12valtrex Subject: Help with Anxiety

Hi everyone!My 9 year old son has been struggling with anxiety and I am at a loss about what to do for him. His anxiety is very specific and it revolves around being late, not getting his school work done at the same time as his peers, eating lunch super fast so he won't miss recess, being late for school, etc. Visual timers have helped a bit but his fear is irrational. He will scream in class if his peers are finished before him ("I'm going to be late") without evening looking around the room to notice that other peers are still working. I put him on Theanine 100 mg in the morning and it was working great but I think it has lost its

effect. I just increased to 200 mg today. Gaba has been suggested but years ago he responded horribly to it. His anxiety is really affecting his school day and I am seriously thinking about RX medicine. Can anyone with anxiety experience help me? I should also mention that I had the exact same anxiety as a kid and eventually had to go on RX medication because the anxiety turned to depression (started medication in my 20's but probably should have started a lot earlier).

Thanks,Dayna

-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

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Marcia,

Thank you very much and great happiness to see there is proof like .

Understsnd that it is not safety to try as a mum, we live in Turkey and

they do not accept Skype appointment also may face with the language problem with doctor G.

on the other hand what works for one child it is not working for other one

ý do not know if there is on NIDS protocol and not seen any improvements in this list or group

but if ý would live in USA ý would try these treatment of course at least for one year to see the result.

Wish heathy and keep his sucess at all his life.

wish all parents to find right treatment for their child.

love,

sema

From: hindssite@...To: semaediz@...; mb12valtrex Subject: Re: Help with AnxietyDate: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 20:41:14 -0700

Sema,

This is a summary of what we did with the NIDS approach. I wrote this when another parent asked me to summarize what we did for her doctor. You might want to check Dr. G’s book I think he lists dosages but be warned it is very medical and not really easy for us moms to understand. Here is a link to the video explaining autism in medical terms.

http://www.nids.net/?page_id=57

Also check out Dr G’s website at NIDS.net.

There is some good info there. You might also want to join Nids

Please know your son can get better with proper medical treatment and then rehabilitation. No parent should accept that their child cannot be helped. is living proof that kids can get better. I too had to go against accepted practice to help my son. As for the meds, it was very scary to me to put my kid on pharmaceuticals. In the beginning I was also worried about what the medicines would do long term. That was when Dr. G asked me if my child had diabetes would I give him insulin? Our kids are sick and until the big cure comes along, they need these meds to make them healthy. That is why we do blood tests every two months to catch any potential things that can become problematic. In the 16 years my son has been doing this all his liver functions have all been normal.

I had to take a risk if my son was going to have any chance at all at life. I couldn’t let him stay autistic with no hope for a normal existence. Just realize every child has different medical needs. And the causes of their autistic symptoms (that are truly Neuroimmune dysfunction and for most not autism at all) are different too. The viral issues were big for . If this disease was the same for everyone autism would have been cured already.

Treating these kids medically is difficult and works best when someone is trained in the NiDS approach. For my kid and most, Dr Goldberg and Dr. only institute one change at time to make sure they know what is working and that they are not overtaxing a child’s immune system. They usually start off with an antiviral medication ( Usually Valtrex or Famvir) at the correct dose: a dose strong enough to fight the viruses and not weak enough to cause a resistance to these meds later.

Next, is usually an antifungal to control yeast. But these docs use the big guns like Nizoral or Diflucan. At the same time they try to take the stress off the immune system by addressing diet and other allergies or anything that could help cool it down. In addition, they treat for sinusitis and any other health issues. And finally he adds an SSRI (like Prozac,Celexa, or Lexapro or whatever he thinks your child will respond best to ) at a very small dose to modulate the immune system not to control behavior. SSRI’s are immune modulators.

Some kids use tenex and other meds depending on their medical labs etc. Also some of our kids have blood work that show ferriton deficiencies, so many have to take iron. and This aids in correcting things like the problem they have with food textures or always eating the same thing. For children with low NK cells he prescribes Immunivir.

My son, , was diagnosed when he was four years old. A psychiatrist who was the leading authority on autism said my child would never be okay. According to this expert, was going to end up in an institution or group home. Now at 22, the only institution attends is Santa Clara University where he studies mechanical engineering on a merit scholarship. excels academically and is in the Engineering Honor Society (top 10% GPA). He‘s a member of Sigma Chi Fraternity and was president of the Jewish Student Association. And he just received a NASA paid internship and scholarship. But more importantly, is a typical college student who drinks an occasional beer, goes on dates, stays out too late with friends and then sleeps through eight o’clock classes. I couldn’t be more proud!

Unbelievable as it seems, this is the same child who wanted to spend all day, every day, plugging in a portable radio into each outlet in the house. Back then, I wasn’t sure if I had the strength to be more stubborn than my son. There were mornings I didn’t want to get out of bed to face another day filled with autism. The worst times were when I didn’t have a direction or a plan. I was hanging onto my sanity by my fingernails. But, at the end of the day, I was faced with a choice: let drift off forever into his own world, or drag him kicking and screaming into ours.

After we helped medically, it was possible for him to learn. Behavioral and educational interventions were used in conjunction with the medical treatment to catch up on everything he missed. Initially, we used Applied Behavior Analysis (ABA) for his rehabilitation and when he was ready we moved towards more natural ways of teaching. It took years to correct ’s deficits in speech and social skills. It was almost like taking a stroke victim and bringing them back. Our story is not about coping with autism, but rather fighting back and not accepting the misconceptions associated with this diagnosis. This process is definitely not for sissies or parents looking for that magic or instant cure.

Hope this helps,

Marcia

[Guest guest]

Hi Sally --

Our autistic son is a non-responder to meds...actually he is highly

sensitive to meds which meant he couldn't tolerate them -- all the

traditional SSRIs, stimulants and non-stimulants.

We do notice that our son seems so much better after a dose of Motrin,

an anti-inflammatory. We only give him Motrin when he has a headache,

he'll say, " Eyes Hurt. " Your post peaked my interest as I am interested

in the use of anti-inflammatory interventions.

I know, or have been told, that Motrin should not be given on a regular

basis as an anti-inflammatory drug. Can you tell me a bit more about

your son and his progress with the Repair Gold Enzymes?

Thanks --

Jen

>

>

> >

> >We're at a point where my son (17) has his anxiety pretty well

managed with a

> >morning cocktail of supps including magnesium for its calming effect.

He carries

> >Bach's Rescue Remedy spray in his backpack and uses it every morning

as he walks

> >into the school. He was 9 when he had his first PANDAS exacerbation.

There have

> >been times when no amount of GABA, theanine, mag, inositol or any

other supp

> >would help at all and we had to rely on clonazepam. It was a life

saver

> >(literally) for us, he's used it many times over the last 8 years and

we've

> >NEVER had any addiction issues with it. When he no longer needs it,

we stop

> >using it. He doesn't like the way it makes him feel now (groggy,

disconnected)

> >but in times of true crisis I've been so thankful we have it. During

his middle

> >school exacerbation, Diflucan did a great job within 2 wks of getting

his

> >anxiety to lessen. Epsom salts baths are still huge for him, he takes

one (with

> >his iPod) most nights as soon as autumn arrives. Have you tried advil

before

> >school to see if that helps anxiety? If it does, you may want to

consider a

> >trial of NeuroProtek. Mine is an advil responder and I really like

what I see

> >with NeuroProtek though it would be helpful if I could strike oil in

the back

> >yard to continue to pay for it. Best wishes ~ Gayle

> >

> >

> >

> ________________________________

> From: Pamela P pamelaleigh99@...

> >To: mb12valtrex

> >Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 1:23 PM

> >Subject: RE: Help with Anxiety

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >For anxiety you could try behavioral supports, 5-HTP, Valerian Root

Extract,

> >GABA. For some kids the naturals won't be enough.

> >

> >Pamela

> >

> >From:mb12valtrex [mailto:mb12valtrex ]

On Behalf

> >Of Dayna

> >Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 10:39 AM

> >To: mb12valtrex

> >Subject: Help with Anxiety

> >

> >

> >Hi everyone!

> >

> >My 9 year old son has been struggling with anxiety and I am at a loss

about what

> >to do for him. His anxiety is very specific and it revolves around

being late,

> >not getting his school work done at the same time as his peers,

eating lunch

> >super fast so he won't miss recess, being late for school, etc.

Visual timers

> >have helped a bit but his fear is irrational. He will scream in class

if his

> >peers are finished before him ( " I'm going to be late " ) without

evening looking

> >around the room to notice that other peers are still working. I put

him on

> >Theanine 100 mg in the morning and it was working great but I think

it has lost

> >its effect. I just increased to 200 mg today. Gaba has been suggested

but years

> >ago he responded horribly to it. His anxiety is really affecting his

school day

> >and I am seriously thinking about RX medicine. Can anyone with

anxiety

> >experience help me? I should also mention that I had the exact same

anxiety as a

> >kid and eventually had to go on RX medication because the anxiety

turned to

> >depression (started medication in my 20's but probably should have

started a lot

> >earlier).

> >

> >

> >Thanks,

> >Dayna

> >

> >

>

>

> --

> Toni

>

> ------

> Mind like a steel trap...

> Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

>

[Guest guest]

Can you share more on what is involved with a " Neuroscience test " ?

My son has very poor attention and hyperactivity. He won't take any type of

test which requires him to focus.

Is this test a lab test...blood, urine? Is this an imaging test which would

require him to be alert?

Would just like some more info...thanks!

Jen

>

> > Hi everyone!

> >

> > My 9 year old son has been struggling with anxiety and I am at a loss about

what to do for him. His anxiety is very specific and it revolves around being

late, not getting his school work done at the same time as his peers, eating

lunch super fast so he won't miss recess, being late for school, etc. Visual

timers have helped a bit but his fear is irrational. He will scream in class if

his peers are finished before him ( " I'm going to be late " ) without evening

looking around the room to notice that other peers are still working. I put him

on Theanine 100 mg in the morning and it was working great but I think it has

lost its effect. I just increased to 200 mg today. Gaba has been suggested but

years ago he responded horribly to it. His anxiety is really affecting his

school day and I am seriously thinking about RX medicine. Can anyone with

anxiety experience help me? I should also mention that I had the exact same

anxiety as a kid and eventually had to go on RX medication because the anxiety

turned to depression (started medication in my 20's but probably should have

started a lot earlier).

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Dayna

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Neuroscience is a company that does a variety of testing. This is the test we did. https://neurorelief.com/index.php?p=testingThey will also make recommendations for supplements, based on the test results. It is a urine test. Saliva also if you choose to do the one that also measures adrenal function. We are using Kavinace and TheaNAQ, since my son shows lots of high excitatory neurotransmitters. This is helping, although he does have PANDAS and we are treating that, as well. I feel like these supps are keeping him in school while we are getting the PANDAS and mito stuff figured out.BTW - GABA also did not work for us. I feel like this test helped us to better target support.HTH, RuthTo: mb12valtrex Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 11:24:47 AMSubject: Re: Help with Anxiety

Can you share more on what is involved with a "Neuroscience test"?

My son has very poor attention and hyperactivity. He won't take any type of test which requires him to focus.

Is this test a lab test...blood, urine? Is this an imaging test which would require him to be alert?

Would just like some more info...thanks!

Jen

>

> > Hi everyone!

> >

> > My 9 year old son has been struggling with anxiety and I am at a loss about what to do for him. His anxiety is very specific and it revolves around being late, not getting his school work done at the same time as his peers, eating lunch super fast so he won't miss recess, being late for school, etc. Visual timers have helped a bit but his fear is irrational. He will scream in class if his peers are finished before him ("I'm going to be late") without evening looking around the room to notice that other peers are still working. I put him on Theanine 100 mg in the morning and it was working great but I think it has lost its effect. I just increased to 200 mg today. Gaba has been suggested but years ago he responded horribly to it. His anxiety is really affecting his school day and I am seriously thinking about RX medicine. Can anyone with anxiety experience help me? I should also mention that I had the exact same anxiety as a kid and eventually had to go on RX medication because the anxiety turned to depression (started medication in my 20's but probably should have started a lot earlier).

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Dayna

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Jen,We used 4 caps both day and night of the Repair Gold (by Enzymedia) and they worked pretty much by the second day so it is worth a try.We now use two heart health products (ProvexCP & Phytomega; as part of a product called Vitality 6) by Melaleuca that are much stronger anti inflammatories and are cheaper. It took 3 weeks before we saw the improvement, though. I am planning a post on those products some day but haven't gotten around to it. Our friends, parents of bipolar teenager, saw 's improvement and took him off meds (in the hosp.) and onto the Vitality 6 and he is doing well, too. This poor kid has been on lots of meds for over 10 years (father is a doctor) and he has been in and out of the psychiatric ward. Long story but I am hoping he continues to do

well.sallyTo: mb12valtrex Sent: Mon, October 31, 2011 10:20:09 AMSubject: Re: Help with Anxiety

Hi Sally --

Our autistic son is a non-responder to meds...actually he is highly

sensitive to meds which meant he couldn't tolerate them -- all the

traditional SSRIs, stimulants and non-stimulants.

We do notice that our son seems so much better after a dose of Motrin,

an anti-inflammatory. We only give him Motrin when he has a headache,

he'll say, "Eyes Hurt." Your post peaked my interest as I am interested

in the use of anti-inflammatory interventions.

I know, or have been told, that Motrin should not be given on a regular

basis as an anti-inflammatory drug. Can you tell me a bit more about

your son and his progress with the Repair Gold Enzymes?

Thanks --

Jen

>

>

> >

> >We're at a point where my son (17) has his anxiety pretty well

managed with a

> >morning cocktail of supps including magnesium for its calming effect.

He carries

> >Bach's Rescue Remedy spray in his backpack and uses it every morning

as he walks

> >into the school. He was 9 when he had his first PANDAS exacerbation.

There have

> >been times when no amount of GABA, theanine, mag, inositol or any

other supp

> >would help at all and we had to rely on clonazepam. It was a life

saver

> >(literally) for us, he's used it many times over the last 8 years and

we've

> >NEVER had any addiction issues with it. When he no longer needs it,

we stop

> >using it. He doesn't like the way it makes him feel now (groggy,

disconnected)

> >but in times of true crisis I've been so thankful we have it. During

his middle

> >school exacerbation, Diflucan did a great job within 2 wks of getting

his

> >anxiety to lessen. Epsom salts baths are still huge for him, he takes

one (with

> >his iPod) most nights as soon as autumn arrives. Have you tried advil

before

> >school to see if that helps anxiety? If it does, you may want to

consider a

> >trial of NeuroProtek. Mine is an advil responder and I really like

what I see

> >with NeuroProtek though it would be helpful if I could strike oil in

the back

> >yard to continue to pay for it. Best wishes ~ Gayle

> >

> >

> >

> ________________________________

> From: Pamela P pamelaleigh99@...

> >To: mb12valtrex

> >Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 1:23 PM

> >Subject: RE: Help with Anxiety

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >For anxiety you could try behavioral supports, 5-HTP, Valerian Root

Extract,

> >GABA. For some kids the naturals won't be enough.

> >

> >Pamela

> >

> >From:mb12valtrex [mailto:mb12valtrex ]

On Behalf

> >Of Dayna

> >Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 10:39 AM

> >To: mb12valtrex

> >Subject: Help with Anxiety

> >

> >

> >Hi everyone!

> >

> >My 9 year old son has been struggling with anxiety and I am at a loss

about what

> >to do for him. His anxiety is very specific and it revolves around

being late,

> >not getting his school work done at the same time as his peers,

eating lunch

> >super fast so he won't miss recess, being late for school, etc.

Visual timers

> >have helped a bit but his fear is irrational. He will scream in class

if his

> >peers are finished before him ("I'm going to be late") without

evening looking

> >around the room to notice that other peers are still working. I put

him on

> >Theanine 100 mg in the morning and it was working great but I think

it has lost

> >its effect. I just increased to 200 mg today. Gaba has been suggested

but years

> >ago he responded horribly to it. His anxiety is really affecting his

school day

> >and I am seriously thinking about RX medicine. Can anyone with

anxiety

> >experience help me? I should also mention that I had the exact same

anxiety as a

> >kid and eventually had to go on RX medication because the anxiety

turned to

> >depression (started medication in my 20's but probably should have

started a lot

> >earlier).

> >

> >

> >Thanks,

> >Dayna

> >

> >

>

>

> --

> Toni

>

> ------

> Mind like a steel trap...

> Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

>

[Guest guest]

Sally,Did your son have a lot of obvious gut issues that made you lean toward enzymes? Did you start the enzymes specifically to treat anxiety/depression? It's funny because a few years ago fluconazole was a silver bullet for us but now it has no effect. I wonder if Repair Gold could be taken in combination with NeuroProtek since they have totally different ingredients. Many thanksGayleTo: mb12valtrex Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 4:42 PMSubject: Re: Re: Help with Anxiety

Jen,We used 4 caps both day and night of the Repair Gold (by Enzymedia) and they worked pretty much by the second day so it is worth a try.We now use two heart health products (ProvexCP & Phytomega; as part of a product called Vitality 6) by Melaleuca that are much stronger anti inflammatories and are cheaper. It took 3 weeks before we saw the improvement, though. I am planning a post on those products some day but haven't gotten around to it. Our friends, parents of bipolar teenager, saw 's improvement and took him off meds (in the hosp.) and onto the Vitality 6 and he is doing well, too. This poor kid has been on lots of meds for over 10 years (father is a doctor) and he has been in and out of the psychiatric ward. Long story but I am hoping he continues to do

well.sallyTo: mb12valtrex Sent: Mon, October 31, 2011 10:20:09 AMSubject: Re: Help with Anxiety

Hi Sally --

Our autistic son is a non-responder to meds...actually he is highly

sensitive to meds which meant he couldn't tolerate them -- all the

traditional SSRIs, stimulants and non-stimulants.

We do notice that our son seems so much better after a dose of Motrin,

an anti-inflammatory. We only give him Motrin when he has a headache,

he'll say, "Eyes Hurt." Your post peaked my interest as I am interested

in the use of anti-inflammatory interventions.

I know, or have been told, that Motrin should not be given on a regular

basis as an anti-inflammatory drug. Can you tell me a bit more about

your son and his progress with the Repair Gold Enzymes?

Thanks --

Jen

>

>

> >

> >We're at a point where my son (17) has his anxiety pretty well

managed with a

> >morning cocktail of supps including magnesium for its calming effect.

He carries

> >Bach's Rescue Remedy spray in his backpack and uses it every morning

as he walks

> >into the school. He was 9 when he had his first PANDAS exacerbation.

There have

> >been times when no amount of GABA, theanine, mag, inositol or any

other supp

> >would help at all and we had to rely on clonazepam. It was a life

saver

> >(literally) for us, he's used it many times over the last 8 years and

we've

> >NEVER had any addiction issues with it. When he no longer needs it,

we stop

> >using it. He doesn't like the way it makes him feel now (groggy,

disconnected)

> >but in times of true crisis I've been so thankful we have it. During

his middle

> >school exacerbation, Diflucan did a great job within 2 wks of getting

his

> >anxiety to lessen. Epsom salts baths are still huge for him, he takes

one (with

> >his iPod) most nights as soon as autumn arrives. Have you tried advil

before

> >school to see if that helps anxiety? If it does, you may want to

consider a

> >trial of NeuroProtek. Mine is an advil responder and I really like

what I see

> >with NeuroProtek though it would be helpful if I could strike oil in

the back

> >yard to continue to pay for it. Best wishes ~ Gayle

> >

> >

> >

> ________________________________

> From: Pamela P pamelaleigh99@...

> >To: mb12valtrex

> >Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 1:23 PM

> >Subject: RE: Help with Anxiety

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >For anxiety you could try behavioral supports, 5-HTP, Valerian Root

Extract,

> >GABA. For some kids the naturals won't be enough.

> >

> >Pamela

> >

> >From:mb12valtrex [mailto:mb12valtrex ]

On Behalf

> >Of Dayna

> >Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 10:39 AM

> >To: mb12valtrex

> >Subject: Help with Anxiety

> >

> >

> >Hi everyone!

> >

> >My 9 year old son has been struggling with anxiety and I am at a loss

about what

> >to do for him. His anxiety is very specific and it revolves around

being late,

> >not getting his school work done at the same time as his peers,

eating lunch

> >super fast so he won't miss recess, being late for school, etc.

Visual timers

> >have helped a bit but his fear is irrational. He will scream in class

if his

> >peers are finished before him ("I'm going to be late") without

evening looking

> >around the room to notice that other peers are still working. I put

him on

> >Theanine 100 mg in the morning and it was working great but I think

it has lost

> >its effect. I just increased to 200 mg today. Gaba has been suggested

but years

> >ago he responded horribly to it. His anxiety is really affecting his

school day

> >and I am seriously thinking about RX medicine. Can anyone with

anxiety

> >experience help me? I should also mention that I had the exact same

anxiety as a

> >kid and eventually had to go on RX medication because the anxiety

turned to

> >depression (started medication in my 20's but probably should have

started a lot

> >earlier).

> >

> >

> >Thanks,

> >Dayna

> >

> >

>

>

> --

> Toni

>

> ------

> Mind like a steel trap...

> Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

>

[Guest guest]

Gayle,There was something going on in the gut but I did not know what it was. He was VERY constipated as a toddler. Dairy, esp. cheese, increased his depression so we used digestive enzymes at most meals. But we started using the Repair Gold when I realized that whenever we treated his inflammation, his depression improved, and Serratiopeptidase is an enzyme that specifically reduces inflammation so I tried it and it worked. He was on it for at least 2 years. His gut seems better. We don't use any digestive enzymes any more so maybe it helped that as well.sallyTo: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex >Sent: Mon, October 31, 2011 4:33:28 PMSubject: Re: Re: Help with Anxiety

Sally,Did your son have a lot of obvious gut issues that made you lean toward enzymes? Did you start the enzymes specifically to treat anxiety/depression? It's funny because a few years ago fluconazole was a silver bullet for us but now it has no effect. I wonder if Repair Gold could be taken in combination with NeuroProtek since they have totally different ingredients. Many thanksGayleTo: mb12valtrex Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 4:42 PMSubject: Re: Re: Help with Anxiety

Jen,We used 4 caps both day and night of the Repair Gold (by Enzymedia) and they worked pretty much by the second day so it is worth a try.We now use two heart health products (ProvexCP & Phytomega; as part of a product called Vitality 6) by Melaleuca that are much stronger anti inflammatories and are cheaper. It took 3 weeks before we saw the improvement, though. I am planning a post on those products some day but haven't gotten around to it. Our friends, parents of bipolar teenager, saw 's improvement and took him off meds (in the hosp.) and onto the Vitality 6 and he is doing well, too. This poor kid has been on lots of meds for over 10 years (father is a doctor) and he has been in and out of the psychiatric ward. Long story but I am hoping he continues to do

well.sallyTo: mb12valtrex Sent: Mon, October 31, 2011 10:20:09 AMSubject: Re: Help with Anxiety

Hi Sally --

Our autistic son is a non-responder to meds...actually he is highly

sensitive to meds which meant he couldn't tolerate them -- all the

traditional SSRIs, stimulants and non-stimulants.

We do notice that our son seems so much better after a dose of Motrin,

an anti-inflammatory. We only give him Motrin when he has a headache,

he'll say, "Eyes Hurt." Your post peaked my interest as I am interested

in the use of anti-inflammatory interventions.

I know, or have been told, that Motrin should not be given on a regular

basis as an anti-inflammatory drug. Can you tell me a bit more about

your son and his progress with the Repair Gold Enzymes?

Thanks --

Jen

>

>

> >

> >We're at a point where my son (17) has his anxiety pretty well

managed with a

> >morning cocktail of supps including magnesium for its calming effect.

He carries

> >Bach's Rescue Remedy spray in his backpack and uses it every morning

as he walks

> >into the school. He was 9 when he had his first PANDAS exacerbation.

There have

> >been times when no amount of GABA, theanine, mag, inositol or any

other supp

> >would help at all and we had to rely on clonazepam. It was a life

saver

> >(literally) for us, he's used it many times over the last 8 years and

we've

> >NEVER had any addiction issues with it. When he no longer needs it,

we stop

> >using it. He doesn't like the way it makes him feel now (groggy,

disconnected)

> >but in times of true crisis I've been so thankful we have it. During

his middle

> >school exacerbation, Diflucan did a great job within 2 wks of getting

his

> >anxiety to lessen. Epsom salts baths are still huge for him, he takes

one (with

> >his iPod) most nights as soon as autumn arrives. Have you tried advil

before

> >school to see if that helps anxiety? If it does, you may want to

consider a

> >trial of NeuroProtek. Mine is an advil responder and I really like

what I see

> >with NeuroProtek though it would be helpful if I could strike oil in

the back

> >yard to continue to pay for it. Best wishes ~ Gayle

> >

> >

> >

> ________________________________

> From: Pamela P pamelaleigh99@...

> >To: mb12valtrex

> >Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 1:23 PM

> >Subject: RE: Help with Anxiety

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >For anxiety you could try behavioral supports, 5-HTP, Valerian Root

Extract,

> >GABA. For some kids the naturals won't be enough.

> >

> >Pamela

> >

> >From:mb12valtrex [mailto:mb12valtrex ]

On Behalf

> >Of Dayna

> >Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 10:39 AM

> >To: mb12valtrex

> >Subject: Help with Anxiety

> >

> >

> >Hi everyone!

> >

> >My 9 year old son has been struggling with anxiety and I am at a loss

about what

> >to do for him. His anxiety is very specific and it revolves around

being late,

> >not getting his school work done at the same time as his peers,

eating lunch

> >super fast so he won't miss recess, being late for school, etc.

Visual timers

> >have helped a bit but his fear is irrational. He will scream in class

if his

> >peers are finished before him ("I'm going to be late") without

evening looking

> >around the room to notice that other peers are still working. I put

him on

> >Theanine 100 mg in the morning and it was working great but I think

it has lost

> >its effect. I just increased to 200 mg today. Gaba has been suggested

but years

> >ago he responded horribly to it. His anxiety is really affecting his

school day

> >and I am seriously thinking about RX medicine. Can anyone with

anxiety

> >experience help me? I should also mention that I had the exact same

anxiety as a

> >kid and eventually had to go on RX medication because the anxiety

turned to

> >depression (started medication in my 20's but probably should have

started a lot

> >earlier).

> >

> >

> >Thanks,

> >Dayna

> >

> >

>

>

> --

> Toni

>

> ------

> Mind like a steel trap...

> Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

>

[Guest guest]

Amazing, thanks Sally! I have reading to do! Mine's anxiety is so improved with anti-inflammatoriesTo: mb12valtrex Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 6:53 PMSubject: Re: Re: Help with Anxiety

Gayle,There was something going on in the gut but I did not know what it was. He was VERY constipated as a toddler. Dairy, esp. cheese, increased his depression so we used digestive enzymes at most meals. But we started using the Repair Gold when I realized that whenever we treated his inflammation, his depression improved, and Serratiopeptidase is an enzyme that specifically reduces inflammation so I tried it and it worked. He was on it for at least 2 years. His gut seems better. We don't use any digestive enzymes any more so maybe it helped that as well.sallyTo: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex >Sent: Mon, October 31, 2011 4:33:28 PMSubject: Re: Re: Help with Anxiety

Sally,Did your son have a lot of obvious gut issues that made you lean toward enzymes? Did you start the enzymes specifically to treat anxiety/depression? It's funny because a few years ago fluconazole was a silver bullet for us but now it has no effect. I wonder if Repair Gold could be taken in combination with NeuroProtek since they have totally different ingredients. Many thanksGayleTo: mb12valtrex Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 4:42 PMSubject: Re: Re: Help with Anxiety

Jen,We used 4 caps both day and night of the Repair Gold (by Enzymedia) and they worked pretty much by the second day so it is worth a try.We now use two heart health products (ProvexCP & Phytomega; as part of a product called Vitality 6) by Melaleuca that are much stronger anti inflammatories and are cheaper. It took 3 weeks before we saw the improvement, though. I am planning a post on those products some day but haven't gotten around to it. Our friends, parents of bipolar teenager, saw 's improvement and took him off meds (in the hosp.) and onto the Vitality 6 and he is doing well, too. This poor kid has been on lots of meds for over 10 years (father is a doctor) and he has been in and out of the psychiatric ward. Long story but I am hoping he continues to do

well.sallyTo: mb12valtrex Sent: Mon, October 31, 2011 10:20:09 AMSubject: Re: Help with Anxiety

Hi Sally --

Our autistic son is a non-responder to meds...actually he is highly

sensitive to meds which meant he couldn't tolerate them -- all the

traditional SSRIs, stimulants and non-stimulants.

We do notice that our son seems so much better after a dose of Motrin,

an anti-inflammatory. We only give him Motrin when he has a headache,

he'll say, "Eyes Hurt." Your post peaked my interest as I am interested

in the use of anti-inflammatory interventions.

I know, or have been told, that Motrin should not be given on a regular

basis as an anti-inflammatory drug. Can you tell me a bit more about

your son and his progress with the Repair Gold Enzymes?

Thanks --

Jen

>

>

> >

> >We're at a point where my son (17) has his anxiety pretty well

managed with a

> >morning cocktail of supps including magnesium for its calming effect.

He carries

> >Bach's Rescue Remedy spray in his backpack and uses it every morning

as he walks

> >into the school. He was 9 when he had his first PANDAS exacerbation.

There have

> >been times when no amount of GABA, theanine, mag, inositol or any

other supp

> >would help at all and we had to rely on clonazepam. It was a life

saver

> >(literally) for us, he's used it many times over the last 8 years and

we've

> >NEVER had any addiction issues with it. When he no longer needs it,

we stop

> >using it. He doesn't like the way it makes him feel now (groggy,

disconnected)

> >but in times of true crisis I've been so thankful we have it. During

his middle

> >school exacerbation, Diflucan did a great job within 2 wks of getting

his

> >anxiety to lessen. Epsom salts baths are still huge for him, he takes

one (with

> >his iPod) most nights as soon as autumn arrives. Have you tried advil

before

> >school to see if that helps anxiety? If it does, you may want to

consider a

> >trial of NeuroProtek. Mine is an advil responder and I really like

what I see

> >with NeuroProtek though it would be helpful if I could strike oil in

the back

> >yard to continue to pay for it. Best wishes ~ Gayle

> >

> >

> >

> ________________________________

> From: Pamela P pamelaleigh99@...

> >To: mb12valtrex

> >Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 1:23 PM

> >Subject: RE: Help with Anxiety

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >For anxiety you could try behavioral supports, 5-HTP, Valerian Root

Extract,

> >GABA. For some kids the naturals won't be enough.

> >

> >Pamela

> >

> >From:mb12valtrex [mailto:mb12valtrex ]

On Behalf

> >Of Dayna

> >Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 10:39 AM

> >To: mb12valtrex

> >Subject: Help with Anxiety

> >

> >

> >Hi everyone!

> >

> >My 9 year old son has been struggling with anxiety and I am at a loss

about what

> >to do for him. His anxiety is very specific and it revolves around

being late,

> >not getting his school work done at the same time as his peers,

eating lunch

> >super fast so he won't miss recess, being late for school, etc.

Visual timers

> >have helped a bit but his fear is irrational. He will scream in class

if his

> >peers are finished before him ("I'm going to be late") without

evening looking

> >around the room to notice that other peers are still working. I put

him on

> >Theanine 100 mg in the morning and it was working great but I think

it has lost

> >its effect. I just increased to 200 mg today. Gaba has been suggested

but years

> >ago he responded horribly to it. His anxiety is really affecting his

school day

> >and I am seriously thinking about RX medicine. Can anyone with

anxiety

> >experience help me? I should also mention that I had the exact same

anxiety as a

> >kid and eventually had to go on RX medication because the anxiety

turned to

> >depression (started medication in my 20's but probably should have

started a lot

> >earlier).

> >

> >

> >Thanks,

> >Dayna

> >

> >

>

>

> --

> Toni

>

> ------

> Mind like a steel trap...

> Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

>

[Guest guest]

My son is doing great on virastop (same company) and it has this enzyme in it

you mentioned. Interesting. He began hopping with both feet together on this

enzyme. WOW.

jenib

> >

> >

> > >

> > >We're at a point where my son (17) has his anxiety pretty well

> managed with a

> > >morning cocktail of supps including magnesium for its calming effect.

> He carries

> > >Bach's Rescue Remedy spray in his backpack and uses it every morning

> as he walks

> > >into the school. He was 9 when he had his first PANDAS exacerbation.

> There have

> > >been times when no amount of GABA, theanine, mag, inositol or any

> other supp

> > >would help at all and we had to rely on clonazepam. It was a life

> saver

> > >(literally) for us, he's used it many times over the last 8 years and

> we've

> > >NEVER had any addiction issues with it. When he no longer needs it,

> we stop

> > >using it. He doesn't like the way it makes him feel now (groggy,

> disconnected)

> > >but in times of true crisis I've been so thankful we have it. During

> his middle

> > >school exacerbation, Diflucan did a great job within 2 wks of getting

> his

> > >anxiety to lessen. Epsom salts baths are still huge for him, he takes

> one (with

> > >his iPod) most nights as soon as autumn arrives. Have you tried advil

> before

> > >school to see if that helps anxiety? If it does, you may want to

> consider a

> > >trial of NeuroProtek. Mine is an advil responder and I really like

> what I see

> > >with NeuroProtek though it would be helpful if I could strike oil in

> the back

> > >yard to continue to pay for it. Best wishes ~ Gayle

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > ________________________________

> > From: Pamela P pamelaleigh99@

> > >To: mb12valtrex

> > >Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 1:23 PM

> > >Subject: RE: Help with Anxiety

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >For anxiety you could try behavioral supports, 5-HTP, Valerian Root

> Extract,

> > >GABA. For some kids the naturals won't be enough.

> > >

> > >Pamela

> > >

> > >From:mb12valtrex [mailto:mb12valtrex ]

> On Behalf

> > >Of Dayna

> > >Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 10:39 AM

> > >To: mb12valtrex

> > >Subject: Help with Anxiety

> > >

> > >

> > >Hi everyone!

> > >

> > >My 9 year old son has been struggling with anxiety and I am at a loss

> about what

> > >to do for him. His anxiety is very specific and it revolves around

> being late,

> > >not getting his school work done at the same time as his peers,

> eating lunch

> > >super fast so he won't miss recess, being late for school, etc.

> Visual timers

> > >have helped a bit but his fear is irrational. He will scream in class

> if his

> > >peers are finished before him ( " I'm going to be late " ) without

> evening looking

> > >around the room to notice that other peers are still working. I put

> him on

> > >Theanine 100 mg in the morning and it was working great but I think

> it has lost

> > >its effect. I just increased to 200 mg today. Gaba has been suggested

> but years

> > >ago he responded horribly to it. His anxiety is really affecting his

> school day

> > >and I am seriously thinking about RX medicine. Can anyone with

> anxiety

> > >experience help me? I should also mention that I had the exact same

> anxiety as a

> > >kid and eventually had to go on RX medication because the anxiety

> turned to

> > >depression (started medication in my 20's but probably should have

> started a lot

> > >earlier).

> > >

> > >

> > >Thanks,

> > >Dayna

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> > --

> > Toni

> >

> > ------

> > Mind like a steel trap...

> > Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

> >

>

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Don't be afraid to ramp up the dosage on the enzymes. They are not like some of the vitamins.sallyTo: mb12valtrex Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2011 9:50 AMSubject: Re: Help with Anxiety

My son is doing great on virastop (same company) and it has this enzyme in it you mentioned. Interesting. He began hopping with both feet together on this enzyme. WOW.

jenib

> >

> >

> > >

> > >We're at a point where my son (17) has his anxiety pretty well

> managed with a

> > >morning cocktail of supps including magnesium for its calming effect.

> He carries

> > >Bach's Rescue Remedy spray in his backpack and uses it every morning

> as he walks

> > >into the school. He was 9 when he had his first PANDAS exacerbation.

> There have

> > >been times when no amount of GABA, theanine, mag, inositol or any

> other supp

> > >would help at all and we had to rely on clonazepam. It was a life

> saver

> > >(literally) for us, he's used it many times over the last 8 years and

> we've

> > >NEVER had any addiction issues with it. When he no longer needs it,

> we stop

> > >using it. He doesn't like the way it makes him feel now (groggy,

> disconnected)

> > >but in times of true crisis I've been so thankful we have it. During

> his middle

> > >school exacerbation, Diflucan did a great job within 2 wks of getting

> his

> > >anxiety to lessen. Epsom salts baths are still huge for him, he takes

> one (with

> > >his iPod) most nights as soon as autumn arrives. Have you tried advil

> before

> > >school to see if that helps anxiety? If it does, you may want to

> consider a

> > >trial of NeuroProtek. Mine is an advil responder and I really like

> what I see

> > >with NeuroProtek though it would be helpful if I could strike oil in

> the back

> > >yard to continue to pay for it. Best wishes ~ Gayle

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > ________________________________

> > From: Pamela P pamelaleigh99@

> > >To: mb12valtrex

> > >Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 1:23 PM

> > >Subject: RE: Help with Anxiety

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >For anxiety you could try behavioral supports, 5-HTP, Valerian Root

> Extract,

> > >GABA. For some kids the naturals won't be enough.

> > >

> > >Pamela

> > >

> > >From:mb12valtrex [mailto:mb12valtrex ]

> On Behalf

> > >Of Dayna

> > >Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 10:39 AM

> > >To: mb12valtrex

> > >Subject: Help with Anxiety

> > >

> > >

> > >Hi everyone!

> > >

> > >My 9 year old son has been struggling with anxiety and I am at a loss

> about what

> > >to do for him. His anxiety is very specific and it revolves around

> being late,

> > >not getting his school work done at the same time as his peers,

> eating lunch

> > >super fast so he won't miss recess, being late for school, etc.

> Visual timers

> > >have helped a bit but his fear is irrational. He will scream in class

> if his

> > >peers are finished before him ("I'm going to be late") without

> evening looking

> > >around the room to notice that other peers are still working. I put

> him on

> > >Theanine 100 mg in the morning and it was working great but I think

> it has lost

> > >its effect. I just increased to 200 mg today. Gaba has been suggested

> but years

> > >ago he responded horribly to it. His anxiety is really affecting his

> school day

> > >and I am seriously thinking about RX medicine. Can anyone with

> anxiety

> > >experience help me? I should also mention that I had the exact same

> anxiety as a

> > >kid and eventually had to go on RX medication because the anxiety

> turned to

> > >depression (started medication in my 20's but probably should have

> started a lot

> > >earlier).

> > >

> > >

> > >Thanks,

> > >Dayna

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> > --

> > Toni

> >

> > ------

> > Mind like a steel trap...

> > Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

> >

>

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"I think of it like someone who has to take Insulin to control their diabetes."

That person might be able to control their diabetes into oblivion by using iodine and appropriate diet...

Re: Help with Anxiety

Dayna,

Have you considered using an SSRI? It was and still is amazing for my kid. Did you know SSRI’s are immune modulators that help the immune system?. My son is recovered but still takes an SSRI, Antivirals and antifungals. He finished college, did an internship for NASA and is now doing a master’s that NASA is paying for. He has been on these meds in one form or another since he was five. Medications are not always bad. I think of it like someone who has to take Insulin to control their diabetes. Would I rather not have to give him these meds? Yes, but he is living a wonderful and productive life as a result. I was told there was nothing I could do for him and he would most likely end up in a group home or institution. Wow, thank goodness I didn’t listen to the “Autism experts”

Best,

Marcia

[Guest guest]

I'm very glad that your son is doing so well, I wish him all the best.

I am also monitor some OCD yahoo groups...there is a constant line of complaints about the drugs and their side effects (which sound pretty much like the TV drug ad disclosures), and a constant search for replacement drugs...its almost comical at times (if it weren't so sad) because Party A wants to drop Drug X for Drug Y, while Party B wants just the opposite....

Re: Help with Anxiety

is,

We first started with Prozac. Next we moved to Celexa and now he takes Lexapro.

Hope that helps.

M