Guest guest Posted May 13, 2012 Report Share Posted May 13, 2012 This is from a post on the MMS yahoo group relating to metal chelation:____________________________________________ Here is some more about heavy metals in Jim Humble's book and lecture transcripts: MMS Seminar Transcript June 7-18, 2010 DAY THREE http://www.genesis2forum.org/index.php?option=com_kunena & func=view & catid=28 & id=2327 & Itemid=66 Q: What about heavy metals? A: Protocol 1000. Q: What about the white resin in dental work? I’ve heard it is very toxic. A: I don’t know about the resin, but the porcelain probably has some toxins in it until it hardens, and then there is no problem with it. Q: Do different metals produce different voltages? A: Yes. But they all have enough voltage to “screw things up.â€Q: Do you think mms works better than chelation for heavy metal clearing? A: MMS is at least ten times better because in 2-3 weeks you can get all the metal out of the body. With chelation it will take a year or two and thousands and thousands of dollars. MMS works in a different way than chelation. Chelation surrounds the metals and then pulls them out and it takes a lot more time to do this. MMS destroys the metal compounds very quickly and then the metals leave the body right away. It’s not the metals that connect to the body, only the compounds, as in tooth fillings. Metals cannot connect to anything in the body. Q: So with mms you won’t have the side effects that people normally have with chelation? A: Right. Excerpt from Jim Humble, The Master Mineral of the Third Millennium (Get it now www.miraclemineral.org ) Oxidation Potential vs Oxidation Capacity One of the amazing things about ClO2 is that its special construction gives it an unusually high oxidation capacity. The oxidation potential is weak, but the capacity is that it can draw away 5 electrons. Think of oxygen as a single-shot, large barrel, high powered rifle, and chlorine dioxide as a small-barrel hand held machine gun. Each chlorine dioxide ion can draw away 5 electrons from any substance that it is able to oxidize, while oxygen can only draw 2 electrons. So one ClO2 ion can destroy up to 5 molecules. That’s more than any of the other oxidizers in the body. Amazingly, the only substances in the human body that it can oxidize are pathogens and poisonous chemical compounds which are usually heavy metal compounds. Remember, that’s because of the very low oxidation potential and the absence of any osmotic pressure exerted inward by chlorine dioxide on many cells. ............. As far as heavy metal compounds are concerned, their chemistry allows them to be oxidized by ClO2 (Chlorine dioxide). While ozone, hydrogen peroxide, and even oxygen, will oxidize the heavy metal compounds, they seldom arrive where the metal compounds are. The compounds are doing their damage deep in the tissues of various body organs. These 3 oxidizers cannot penetrate deeply enough to reach them because they all have a tendency to oxidize some of the body cells or other body items before they arrive at the heavy metals. Chlorine dioxide does penetrate deeply into the tissues because it is not used up by oxidizing other things before reaching the metal compounds or pathogens. The fact that chlorine dioxide can reach deep into the tissues is proof that it does not oxidize body cells. Further proof is in the fact that hundreds of thousands of lives have been saved so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2012 Report Share Posted May 13, 2012 I need some clarification about this statement : " MMS is at least ten times better because in 2-3 weeks you can get all the metal out of the body. With chelation it will take a year or two and thousands and thousands of dollars. " Why are so many still using AC chelation then if MMS is so much better and why do they say that chelation will cost thousands of dollars ? I thought chelation wasn't going to break the bank ? My son is 3 1/2 yo and we recently found out that he has lead retention, we are waiting for further bloodwork results but the plan was do to a chelation trial and go from there... now I don't know what to do anymore. Please help ! > > > This is from a post on the MMS yahoo group relating to metal chelation: > > ____________________________________________ > >  > Here is some more about heavy metals in > Jim Humble's book and lecture transcripts: >  > MMS Seminar Transcript June 7-18, > 2010 DAY THREE > http://www.genesis2forum.org/index.php?option=com_kunena & func=view & catid=28 & id=2\ 327 & Itemid=66 > Q: What about heavy metals? > A: Protocol 1000. > Q: What about the white resin in dental > work? I’ve heard it is very > toxic. > A: I don’t know about the resin, but the > porcelain probably has some toxins in it until it hardens, and then there is no > problem with it. > Q: Do different metals produce different > voltages? > A: Yes. But they all have enough voltage to > “screw things up.†> Q: Do you > think mms works better than chelation for heavy metal > clearing? > A: MMS is at least ten times better because > in 2-3 weeks you can get all the metal out of the body. With chelation it will take a year or > two and thousands and thousands of dollars. MMS works in a different way than > chelation.  Chelation > surrounds the metals and then pulls them out and it takes a lot more time to do > this. MMS destroys the metal > compounds very quickly and then the metals leave the body right away. It’s not the metals that connect to the > body, only the compounds, as in tooth fillings. Metals cannot connect to anything in the > body. > Q: So with mms you won’t have the side > effects that people normally have with chelation? > A: Right.   >  > Excerpt from Jim Humble, The Master Mineral of the Third Millennium (Get it now www.miraclemineral.org ) >  > Oxidation > Potential vs Oxidation Capacity > One > of the amazing things about ClO2 is > that its special construction > gives > it an unusually high oxidation capacity. The oxidation > potential > is > weak, but the capacity is that it can draw away 5 > electrons. > Think > of oxygen as a single-shot, large barrel, high powered > rifle, > and chlorine dioxide as a small-barrel hand held > machine > gun. > Each > chlorine dioxide ion can draw away 5 electrons from any > substance > that it is able to oxidize, while oxygen can only draw 2 > electrons. > So one ClO2 ion > can destroy up to 5 molecules. That’s more > than > any of the other oxidizers in the body. Amazingly, the > only > substances > in the human body that it can oxidize are pathogens and > poisonous > chemical compounds which are usually heavy metal > compounds. > Remember, that’s because of the very > low oxidation > potential > and the absence of any osmotic pressure exerted > inward > by chlorine dioxide on many cells. > ............. >  > As > far as heavy metal compounds are concerned, their > chemistry > allows > them to be oxidized by ClO2(Chlorine dioxide). While ozone, hydrogen peroxide, > and > even oxygen, will oxidize the heavy metal compounds, they > seldom > arrive where the metal compounds are. The compounds are > doing > their damage deep in the tissues of various body organs. > These > 3 > oxidizers cannot penetrate deeply enough to reach them > because > they > all have a tendency to oxidize some of the body cells or > other > body > items before they arrive at the heavy metals. >  > Chlorine > dioxide does penetrate deeply into the tissues > because > it is not used up by oxidizing other things before > reaching > the metal compounds or pathogens. The fact that > chlorine > dioxide can reach deep into the tissues is proof that it > does > not oxidize body cells. Further proof is in the fact that > hundreds > of thousands of lives have been saved so far. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 We've not used MMS but for lead we used AC chelation of DMSA - 12.5 mg for our son every four hours 72 hr period. Serum lead dropped from 2 to Zero in about 4 mosSent from my iPhone I need some clarification about this statement :"MMS is at least ten times better because in 2-3 weeks you can get all the metal out of the body. With chelation it will take a year or two and thousands and thousands of dollars." Why are so many still using AC chelation then if MMS is so much better and why do they say that chelation will cost thousands of dollars ? I thought chelation wasn't going to break the bank ? My son is 3 1/2 yo and we recently found out that he has lead retention, we are waiting for further bloodwork results but the plan was do to a chelation trial and go from there... now I don't know what to do anymore. Please help ! > > > This is from a post on the MMS yahoo group relating to metal chelation: > > ____________________________________________ > > > Here is some more about heavy metals in > Jim Humble's book and lecture transcripts: > > MMS Seminar Transcript June 7-18, > 2010 DAY THREE > http://www.genesis2forum.org/index.php?option=com_kunena & func=view & catid=28 & id=2327 & Itemid=66 > Q: What about heavy metals? > A: Protocol 1000. > Q: What about the white resin in dental > work? I’ve heard it is very > toxic. > A: I don’t know about the resin, but the > porcelain probably has some toxins in it until it hardens, and then there is no > problem with it. > Q: Do different metals produce different > voltages? > A: Yes. But they all have enough voltage to > “screw things up.†> Q: Do you > think mms works better than chelation for heavy metal > clearing? > A: MMS is at least ten times better because > in 2-3 weeks you can get all the metal out of the body. With chelation it will take a year or > two and thousands and thousands of dollars. MMS works in a different way than > chelation. Chelation > surrounds the metals and then pulls them out and it takes a lot more time to do > this. MMS destroys the metal > compounds very quickly and then the metals leave the body right away. It’s not the metals that connect to the > body, only the compounds, as in tooth fillings. Metals cannot connect to anything in the > body. > Q: So with mms you won’t have the side > effects that people normally have with chelation? > A: Right. > > Excerpt from Jim Humble, The Master Mineral of the Third Millennium (Get it now www.miraclemineral.org ) > > Oxidation > Potential vs Oxidation Capacity > One > of the amazing things about ClO2 is > that its special construction > gives > it an unusually high oxidation capacity. The oxidation > potential > is > weak, but the capacity is that it can draw away 5 > electrons. > Think > of oxygen as a single-shot, large barrel, high powered > rifle, > and chlorine dioxide as a small-barrel hand held > machine > gun. > Each > chlorine dioxide ion can draw away 5 electrons from any > substance > that it is able to oxidize, while oxygen can only draw 2 > electrons. > So one ClO2 ion > can destroy up to 5 molecules. That’s more > than > any of the other oxidizers in the body. Amazingly, the > only > substances > in the human body that it can oxidize are pathogens and > poisonous > chemical compounds which are usually heavy metal > compounds. > Remember, that’s because of the very > low oxidation > potential > and the absence of any osmotic pressure exerted > inward > by chlorine dioxide on many cells. > ............. > > As > far as heavy metal compounds are concerned, their > chemistry > allows > them to be oxidized by ClO2(Chlorine dioxide). While ozone, hydrogen peroxide, > and > even oxygen, will oxidize the heavy metal compounds, they > seldom > arrive where the metal compounds are. The compounds are > doing > their damage deep in the tissues of various body organs. > These > 3 > oxidizers cannot penetrate deeply enough to reach them > because > they > all have a tendency to oxidize some of the body cells or > other > body > items before they arrive at the heavy metals. > > Chlorine > dioxide does penetrate deeply into the tissues > because > it is not used up by oxidizing other things before > reaching > the metal compounds or pathogens. The fact that > chlorine > dioxide can reach deep into the tissues is proof that it > does > not oxidize body cells. Further proof is in the fact that > hundreds > of thousands of lives have been saved so far. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 , what about the cost of AC chelation ? > > > > > > This is from a post on the MMS yahoo group relating to metal chelation: > > > > ____________________________________________ > > > > > > Here is some more about heavy metals in > > Jim Humble's book and lecture transcripts: > > > > MMS Seminar Transcript June 7-18, > > 2010 DAY THREE > > http://www.genesis2forum.org/index.php?option=com_kunena & func=view & catid=28 & id=2\ 327 & Itemid=66 > > Q: What about heavy metals? > > A: Protocol 1000. > > Q: What about the white resin in dental > > work? I’ve heard it is very > > toxic. > > A: I don’t know about the resin, but the > > porcelain probably has some toxins in it until it hardens, and then there is no > > problem with it. > > Q: Do different metals produce different > > voltages? > > A: Yes. But they all have enough voltage to > > “screw things up.†> > Q: Do you > > think mms works better than chelation for heavy metal > > clearing? > > A: MMS is at least ten times better because > > in 2-3 weeks you can get all the metal out of the body. With chelation it will take a year or > > two and thousands and thousands of dollars. MMS works in a different way than > > chelation. Chelation > > surrounds the metals and then pulls them out and it takes a lot more time to do > > this. MMS destroys the metal > > compounds very quickly and then the metals leave the body right away. It’s not the metals that connect to the > > body, only the compounds, as in tooth fillings. Metals cannot connect to anything in the > > body. > > Q: So with mms you won’t have the side > > effects that people normally have with chelation? > > A: Right. > > > > Excerpt from Jim Humble, The Master Mineral of the Third Millennium (Get it now www.miraclemineral.org ) > > > > Oxidation > > Potential vs Oxidation Capacity > > One > > of the amazing things about ClO2 is > > that its special construction > > gives > > it an unusually high oxidation capacity. The oxidation > > potential > > is > > weak, but the capacity is that it can draw away 5 > > electrons. > > Think > > of oxygen as a single-shot, large barrel, high powered > > rifle, > > and chlorine dioxide as a small-barrel hand held > > machine > > gun. > > Each > > chlorine dioxide ion can draw away 5 electrons from any > > substance > > that it is able to oxidize, while oxygen can only draw 2 > > electrons. > > So one ClO2 ion > > can destroy up to 5 molecules. That’s more > > than > > any of the other oxidizers in the body. Amazingly, the > > only > > substances > > in the human body that it can oxidize are pathogens and > > poisonous > > chemical compounds which are usually heavy metal > > compounds. > > Remember, that’s because of the very > > low oxidation > > potential > > and the absence of any osmotic pressure exerted > > inward > > by chlorine dioxide on many cells. > > ............. > > > > As > > far as heavy metal compounds are concerned, their > > chemistry > > allows > > them to be oxidized by ClO2(Chlorine dioxide). While ozone, hydrogen peroxide, > > and > > even oxygen, will oxidize the heavy metal compounds, they > > seldom > > arrive where the metal compounds are. The compounds are > > doing > > their damage deep in the tissues of various body organs. > > These > > 3 > > oxidizers cannot penetrate deeply enough to reach them > > because > > they > > all have a tendency to oxidize some of the body cells or > > other > > body > > items before they arrive at the heavy metals. > > > > Chlorine > > dioxide does penetrate deeply into the tissues > > because > > it is not used up by oxidizing other things before > > reaching > > the metal compounds or pathogens. The fact that > > chlorine > > dioxide can reach deep into the tissues is proof that it > > does > > not oxidize body cells. Further proof is in the fact that > > hundreds > > of thousands of lives have been saved so far. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 Very inexpensive - like $15 per monthSent from my iPhoneh , what about the cost of AC chelation ? > > > > > > This is from a post on the MMS yahoo group relating to metal chelation: > > > > ____________________________________________ > > > > > > Here is some more about heavy metals in > > Jim Humble's book and lecture transcripts: > > > > MMS Seminar Transcript June 7-18, > > 2010 DAY THREE > > http://www.genesis2forum.org/index.php?option=com_kunena & func=view & catid=28 & id=2327 & Itemid=66 > > Q: What about heavy metals? > > A: Protocol 1000. > > Q: What about the white resin in dental > > work? I’ve heard it is very > > toxic. > > A: I don’t know about the resin, but the > > porcelain probably has some toxins in it until it hardens, and then there is no > > problem with it. > > Q: Do different metals produce different > > voltages? > > A: Yes. But they all have enough voltage to > > “screw things up.†> > Q: Do you > > think mms works better than chelation for heavy metal > > clearing? > > A: MMS is at least ten times better because > > in 2-3 weeks you can get all the metal out of the body. With chelation it will take a year or > > two and thousands and thousands of dollars. MMS works in a different way than > > chelation. Chelation > > surrounds the metals and then pulls them out and it takes a lot more time to do > > this. MMS destroys the metal > > compounds very quickly and then the metals leave the body right away. It’s not the metals that connect to the > > body, only the compounds, as in tooth fillings. Metals cannot connect to anything in the > > body. > > Q: So with mms you won’t have the side > > effects that people normally have with chelation? > > A: Right. > > > > Excerpt from Jim Humble, The Master Mineral of the Third Millennium (Get it now www.miraclemineral.org ) > > > > Oxidation > > Potential vs Oxidation Capacity > > One > > of the amazing things about ClO2 is > > that its special construction > > gives > > it an unusually high oxidation capacity. The oxidation > > potential > > is > > weak, but the capacity is that it can draw away 5 > > electrons. > > Think > > of oxygen as a single-shot, large barrel, high powered > > rifle, > > and chlorine dioxide as a small-barrel hand held > > machine > > gun. > > Each > > chlorine dioxide ion can draw away 5 electrons from any > > substance > > that it is able to oxidize, while oxygen can only draw 2 > > electrons. > > So one ClO2 ion > > can destroy up to 5 molecules. That’s more > > than > > any of the other oxidizers in the body. Amazingly, the > > only > > substances > > in the human body that it can oxidize are pathogens and > > poisonous > > chemical compounds which are usually heavy metal > > compounds. > > Remember, that’s because of the very > > low oxidation > > potential > > and the absence of any osmotic pressure exerted > > inward > > by chlorine dioxide on many cells. > > ............. > > > > As > > far as heavy metal compounds are concerned, their > > chemistry > > allows > > them to be oxidized by ClO2(Chlorine dioxide). While ozone, hydrogen peroxide, > > and > > even oxygen, will oxidize the heavy metal compounds, they > > seldom > > arrive where the metal compounds are. The compounds are > > doing > > their damage deep in the tissues of various body organs. > > These > > 3 > > oxidizers cannot penetrate deeply enough to reach them > > because > > they > > all have a tendency to oxidize some of the body cells or > > other > > body > > items before they arrive at the heavy metals. > > > > Chlorine > > dioxide does penetrate deeply into the tissues > > because > > it is not used up by oxidizing other things before > > reaching > > the metal compounds or pathogens. The fact that > > chlorine > > dioxide can reach deep into the tissues is proof that it > > does > > not oxidize body cells. Further proof is in the fact that > > hundreds > > of thousands of lives have been saved so far. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 As costs go AC Chelation is inexpensive. DMSA & ALA I buy a large capsule and end up using just one over the peroid of each weekend.You take Vit C, Vit E, Melatonin, and Zinc during that time and over the week as well. The expense is in the supplements which you might use anyway.MMS is very inexpensive. I was looking at the new MMS with using the chlorine dioxide gas in water. It is stronger and the taste is not bad. We tried the old protocol last year but I got an aversion to the taste which is common. The new web site seems very complete with many ideas. Hubble didn't have that before when we tried it.We are just trying to use MMS in between the AC protocol for killing parasites-bacteria because we can not get some other RX's and aren't tolerating some of the naturals. Virginia To: mb12valtrex Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 9:26:00 AM Subject: Re: Metals chelation with MMS , what about the cost of AC chelation ? > > > > > > This is from a post on the MMS yahoo group relating to metal chelation: > > > > ____________________________________________ > > > > > > Here is some more about heavy metals in > > Jim Humble's book and lecture transcripts: > > > > MMS Seminar Transcript June 7-18, > > 2010 DAY THREE > > http://www.genesis2forum.org/index.php?option=com_kunena & func=view & catid=28 & id=2327 & Itemid=66 > > Q: What about heavy metals? > > A: Protocol 1000. > > Q: What about the white resin in dental > > work? I’ve heard it is very > > toxic. > > A: I don’t know about the resin, but the > > porcelain probably has some toxins in it until it hardens, and then there is no > > problem with it. > > Q: Do different metals produce different > > voltages? > > A: Yes. But they all have enough voltage to > > “screw things up.†> > Q: Do you > > think mms works better than chelation for heavy metal > > clearing? > > A: MMS is at least ten times better because > > in 2-3 weeks you can get all the metal out of the body. With chelation it will take a year or > > two and thousands and thousands of dollars. MMS works in a different way than > > chelation. Chelation > > surrounds the metals and then pulls them out and it takes a lot more time to do > > this. MMS destroys the metal > > compounds very quickly and then the metals leave the body right away. It’s not the metals that connect to the > > body, only the compounds, as in tooth fillings. Metals cannot connect to anything in the > > body. > > Q: So with mms you won’t have the side > > effects that people normally have with chelation? > > A: Right. > > > > Excerpt from Jim Humble, The Master Mineral of the Third Millennium (Get it now www.miraclemineral.org ) > > > > Oxidation > > Potential vs Oxidation Capacity > > One > > of the amazing things about ClO2 is > > that its special construction > > gives > > it an unusually high oxidation capacity. The oxidation > > potential > > is > > weak, but the capacity is that it can draw away 5 > > electrons. > > Think > > of oxygen as a single-shot, large barrel, high powered > > rifle, > > and chlorine dioxide as a small-barrel hand held > > machine > > gun. > > Each > > chlorine dioxide ion can draw away 5 electrons from any > > substance > > that it is able to oxidize, while oxygen can only draw 2 > > electrons. > > So one ClO2 ion > > can destroy up to 5 molecules. That’s more > > than > > any of the other oxidizers in the body. Amazingly, the > > only > > substances > > in the human body that it can oxidize are pathogens and > > poisonous > > chemical compounds which are usually heavy metal > > compounds. > > Remember, that’s because of the very > > low oxidation > > potential > > and the absence of any osmotic pressure exerted > > inward > > by chlorine dioxide on many cells. > > ............. > > > > As > > far as heavy metal compounds are concerned, their > > chemistry > > allows > > them to be oxidized by ClO2(Chlorine dioxide). While ozone, hydrogen peroxide, > > and > > even oxygen, will oxidize the heavy metal compounds, they > > seldom > > arrive where the metal compounds are. The compounds are > > doing > > their damage deep in the tissues of various body organs. > > These > > 3 > > oxidizers cannot penetrate deeply enough to reach them > > because > > they > > all have a tendency to oxidize some of the body cells or > > other > > body > > items before they arrive at the heavy metals. > > > > Chlorine > > dioxide does penetrate deeply into the tissues > > because > > it is not used up by oxidizing other things before > > reaching > > the metal compounds or pathogens. The fact that > > chlorine > > dioxide can reach deep into the tissues is proof that it > > does > > not oxidize body cells. Further proof is in the fact that > > hundreds > > of thousands of lives have been saved so far. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 Be sure you research AC chelation thoroughly before you do it. There is a lot to it- timing, type of chelators, amount for size of child...the group of moms who coached us have written a book that I ve not read but am guessing is quite good:"fight autism and win". You might want to check it out Sent from my iPhone Very inexpensive - like $15 per monthSent from my iPhoneh , what about the cost of AC chelation ? > > > > > > This is from a post on the MMS yahoo group relating to metal chelation: > > > > ____________________________________________ > > > > > > Here is some more about heavy metals in > > Jim Humble's book and lecture transcripts: > > > > MMS Seminar Transcript June 7-18, > > 2010 DAY THREE > > http://www.genesis2forum.org/index.php?option=com_kunena & func=view & catid=28 & id=2327 & Itemid=66 > > Q: What about heavy metals? > > A: Protocol 1000. > > Q: What about the white resin in dental > > work? I’ve heard it is very > > toxic. > > A: I don’t know about the resin, but the > > porcelain probably has some toxins in it until it hardens, and then there is no > > problem with it. > > Q: Do different metals produce different > > voltages? > > A: Yes. But they all have enough voltage to > > “screw things up.†> > Q: Do you > > think mms works better than chelation for heavy metal > > clearing? > > A: MMS is at least ten times better because > > in 2-3 weeks you can get all the metal out of the body. With chelation it will take a year or > > two and thousands and thousands of dollars. MMS works in a different way than > > chelation. Chelation > > surrounds the metals and then pulls them out and it takes a lot more time to do > > this. MMS destroys the metal > > compounds very quickly and then the metals leave the body right away. It’s not the metals that connect to the > > body, only the compounds, as in tooth fillings. Metals cannot connect to anything in the > > body. > > Q: So with mms you won’t have the side > > effects that people normally have with chelation? > > A: Right. > > > > Excerpt from Jim Humble, The Master Mineral of the Third Millennium (Get it now www.miraclemineral.org ) > > > > Oxidation > > Potential vs Oxidation Capacity > > One > > of the amazing things about ClO2 is > > that its special construction > > gives > > it an unusually high oxidation capacity. The oxidation > > potential > > is > > weak, but the capacity is that it can draw away 5 > > electrons. > > Think > > of oxygen as a single-shot, large barrel, high powered > > rifle, > > and chlorine dioxide as a small-barrel hand held > > machine > > gun. > > Each > > chlorine dioxide ion can draw away 5 electrons from any > > substance > > that it is able to oxidize, while oxygen can only draw 2 > > electrons. > > So one ClO2 ion > > can destroy up to 5 molecules. That’s more > > than > > any of the other oxidizers in the body. Amazingly, the > > only > > substances > > in the human body that it can oxidize are pathogens and > > poisonous > > chemical compounds which are usually heavy metal > > compounds. > > Remember, that’s because of the very > > low oxidation > > potential > > and the absence of any osmotic pressure exerted > > inward > > by chlorine dioxide on many cells. > > ............. > > > > As > > far as heavy metal compounds are concerned, their > > chemistry > > allows > > them to be oxidized by ClO2(Chlorine dioxide). While ozone, hydrogen peroxide, > > and > > even oxygen, will oxidize the heavy metal compounds, they > > seldom > > arrive where the metal compounds are. The compounds are > > doing > > their damage deep in the tissues of various body organs. > > These > > 3 > > oxidizers cannot penetrate deeply enough to reach them > > because > > they > > all have a tendency to oxidize some of the body cells or > > other > > body > > items before they arrive at the heavy metals. > > > > Chlorine > > dioxide does penetrate deeply into the tissues > > because > > it is not used up by oxidizing other things before > > reaching > > the metal compounds or pathogens. The fact that > > chlorine > > dioxide can reach deep into the tissues is proof that it > > does > > not oxidize body cells. Further proof is in the fact that > > hundreds > > of thousands of lives have been saved so far. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 I have done both andy cutler chelation and the low frequent dose MMS protocol.....I have had amazing success with the AC chelation....But when my sons PANDA symptoms kicked in it was MMS that recovered him...so I am a fan of both protocols....it is hard for me to say which I would recomend first...both are great. and I have heard many more parents have success on both protocols. channa www.healyourchild.wordpress.com > > > > > > > > > This is from a post on the MMS yahoo group relating to metal chelation: > > > > > > ____________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > Here is some more about heavy metals in > > > Jim Humble's book and lecture transcripts: > > > > > > MMS Seminar Transcript June 7-18, > > > 2010 DAY THREE > > > http://www.genesis2forum.org/index.php?option=com_kunena & func=view & catid=28 & id=2\ 327 & Itemid=66 > > > Q: What about heavy metals? > > > A: Protocol 1000. > > > Q: What about the white resin in dental > > > work? I’ve heard it is very > > > toxic. > > > A: I don’t know about the resin, but the > > > porcelain probably has some toxins in it until it hardens, and then there is no > > > problem with it. > > > Q: Do different metals produce different > > > voltages? > > > A: Yes. But they all have enough voltage to > > > “screw things up.†> > > Q: Do you > > > think mms works better than chelation for heavy metal > > > clearing? > > > A: MMS is at least ten times better because > > > in 2-3 weeks you can get all the metal out of the body. With chelation it will take a year or > > > two and thousands and thousands of dollars. MMS works in a different way than > > > chelation. Chelation > > > surrounds the metals and then pulls them out and it takes a lot more time to do > > > this. MMS destroys the metal > > > compounds very quickly and then the metals leave the body right away. It’s not the metals that connect to the > > > body, only the compounds, as in tooth fillings. Metals cannot connect to anything in the > > > body. > > > Q: So with mms you won’t have the side > > > effects that people normally have with chelation? > > > A: Right. > > > > > > Excerpt from Jim Humble, The Master Mineral of the Third Millennium (Get it now www.miraclemineral.org ) > > > > > > Oxidation > > > Potential vs Oxidation Capacity > > > One > > > of the amazing things about ClO2 is > > > that its special construction > > > gives > > > it an unusually high oxidation capacity. The oxidation > > > potential > > > is > > > weak, but the capacity is that it can draw away 5 > > > electrons. > > > Think > > > of oxygen as a single-shot, large barrel, high powered > > > rifle, > > > and chlorine dioxide as a small-barrel hand held > > > machine > > > gun. > > > Each > > > chlorine dioxide ion can draw away 5 electrons from any > > > substance > > > that it is able to oxidize, while oxygen can only draw 2 > > > electrons. > > > So one ClO2 ion > > > can destroy up to 5 molecules. That’s more > > > than > > > any of the other oxidizers in the body. Amazingly, the > > > only > > > substances > > > in the human body that it can oxidize are pathogens and > > > poisonous > > > chemical compounds which are usually heavy metal > > > compounds. > > > Remember, that’s because of the very > > > low oxidation > > > potential > > > and the absence of any osmotic pressure exerted > > > inward > > > by chlorine dioxide on many cells. > > > ............. > > > > > > As > > > far as heavy metal compounds are concerned, their > > > chemistry > > > allows > > > them to be oxidized by ClO2(Chlorine dioxide). While ozone, hydrogen peroxide, > > > and > > > even oxygen, will oxidize the heavy metal compounds, they > > > seldom > > > arrive where the metal compounds are. The compounds are > > > doing > > > their damage deep in the tissues of various body organs. > > > These > > > 3 > > > oxidizers cannot penetrate deeply enough to reach them > > > because > > > they > > > all have a tendency to oxidize some of the body cells or > > > other > > > body > > > items before they arrive at the heavy metals. > > > > > > Chlorine > > > dioxide does penetrate deeply into the tissues > > > because > > > it is not used up by oxidizing other things before > > > reaching > > > the metal compounds or pathogens. The fact that > > > chlorine > > > dioxide can reach deep into the tissues is proof that it > > > does > > > not oxidize body cells. Further proof is in the fact that > > > hundreds > > > of thousands of lives have been saved so far. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 Hi Channa;could you please share a few details about these two protocols,how did u do it,for how long and what differences did you see?I think my son needs heavy metal chelation but my DAN simply refuses any such thing/medicine.I am scared of doing it all alone;don't know what to do. Hopefully your experience will give me that extra push I need. nbsp; thanks ana To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 11:34 AM Subject: Re: Metals chelation with MMS I have done both andy cutler chelation and the low frequent dose MMS protocol.....I have had amazing success with the AC chelation....But when my sons PANDA symptoms kicked in it was MMS that recovered him...so I am a fan of both protocols....it is hard for me to say which I would recomend first...both are great. and I have heard many more parents have success on both protocols. channa www.healyourchild.wordpress.com > > > > > > > > > This is from a post on the MMS yahoo group relating to metal chelation: > > > > > > ____________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > Here is some more about heavy metals in > > > Jim Humble's book and lecture transcripts: > > > > > > MMS Seminar Transcript June 7-18, > > > 2010 DAY THREE > > > http://www.genesis2forum.org/index.php?option=com_kunena & func=view & catid=28 & id=2327 & Itemid=66 > > > Q: What about heavy metals? > > > A: Protocol 1000. > > > Q: What about the white resin in dental > > > work? I’ve heard it is very > > > toxic. > > > A: I don’t know about the resin, but the > > > porcelain probably has some toxins in it until it hardens, and then there is no > > > problem with it. > > > Q: Do different metals produce different > > > voltages? > > > A: Yes. But they all have enough voltage to > > > “screw things up.†> > > Q: Do you > > > think mms works better than chelation for heavy metal > > > clearing? > > > A: MMS is at least ten times better because > > > in 2-3 weeks you can get all the metal out of the body. With chelation it will take a year or > > > two and thousands and thousands of dollars. MMS works in a different way than > > > chelation. Chelation > > > surrounds the metals and then pulls them out and it takes a lot more time to do > > > this. MMS destroys the metal > > > compounds very quickly and then the metals leave the body right away. It’s not the metals that connect to the > > > body, only the compounds, as in tooth fillings. Metals cannot connect to anything in the > > > body. > > > Q: So with mms you won’t have the side > > > effects that people normally have with chelation? > > > A: Right. > > > > > > Excerpt from Jim Humble, The Master Mineral of the Third Millennium (Get it now www.miraclemineral.org ) > > > > > > Oxidation > > > Potential vs Oxidation Capacity > > > One > > > of the amazing things about ClO2 is > > > that its special construction > > > gives > > > it an unusually high oxidation capacity. The oxidation > > > potential > > > is > > > weak, but the capacity is that it can draw away 5 > > > electrons. > > > Think > > > of oxygen as a single-shot, large barrel, high powered > > > rifle, > > > and chlorine dioxide as a small-barrel hand held > > > machine > > > gun. > > > Each > > > chlorine dioxide ion can draw away 5 electrons from any > > > substance > > > that it is able to oxidize, while oxygen can only draw 2 > > > electrons. > > > So one ClO2 ion > > > can destroy up to 5 molecules. That’s more > > > than > > > any of the other oxidizers in the body. Amazingly, the > > > only > > > substances > > > in the human body that it can oxidize are pathogens and > > > poisonous > > > chemical compounds which are usually heavy metal > > > compounds. > > > Remember, that’s because of the very > > > low oxidation > > > potential > > > and the absence of any osmotic pressure exerted > > > inward > > > by chlorine dioxide on many cells. > > > ............. > > > > > > As > > > far as heavy metal compounds are concerned, their > > > chemistry > > > allows > > > them to be oxidized by ClO2(Chlorine dioxide). While ozone, hydrogen peroxide, > > > and > > > even oxygen, will oxidize the heavy metal compounds, they > > > seldom > > > arrive where the metal compounds are. The compounds are > > > doing > > > their damage deep in the tissues of various body organs. > > > These > > > 3 > > > oxidizers cannot penetrate deeply enough to reach them > > > because > > > they > > > all have a tendency to oxidize some of the body cells or > > > other > > > body > > > items before they arrive at the heavy metals. > > > > > > Chlorine > > > dioxide does penetrate deeply into the tissues > > > because > > > it is not used up by oxidizing other things before > > > reaching > > > the metal compounds or pathogens. The fact that > > > chlorine > > > dioxide can reach deep into the tissues is proof that it > > > does > > > not oxidize body cells. Further proof is in the fact that > > > hundreds > > > of thousands of lives have been saved so far. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 Channa,Which of the MMS protocol did you use? Virginia 341-22nd Street West Owen Sound ON N4K 4E9 To: mb12valtrex Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 9:34:34 PM Subject: Re: Metals chelation with MMS I have done both andy cutler chelation and the low frequent dose MMS protocol.....I have had amazing success with the AC chelation....But when my sons PANDA symptoms kicked in it was MMS that recovered him...so I am a fan of both protocols....it is hard for me to say which I would recomend first...both are great. and I have heard many more parents have success on both protocols. channa www.healyourchild.wordpress.com > > > > > > > > > This is from a post on the MMS yahoo group relating to metal chelation: > > > > > > ____________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > Here is some more about heavy metals in > > > Jim Humble's book and lecture transcripts: > > > > > > MMS Seminar Transcript June 7-18, > > > 2010 DAY THREE > > > http://www.genesis2forum.org/index.php?option=com_kunena & func=view & catid=28 & id=2327 & Itemid=66 > > > Q: What about heavy metals? > > > A: Protocol 1000. > > > Q: What about the white resin in dental > > > work? I’ve heard it is very > > > toxic. > > > A: I don’t know about the resin, but the > > > porcelain probably has some toxins in it until it hardens, and then there is no > > > problem with it. > > > Q: Do different metals produce different > > > voltages? > > > A: Yes. But they all have enough voltage to > > > “screw things up.†> > > Q: Do you > > > think mms works better than chelation for heavy metal > > > clearing? > > > A: MMS is at least ten times better because > > > in 2-3 weeks you can get all the metal out of the body. With chelation it will take a year or > > > two and thousands and thousands of dollars. MMS works in a different way than > > > chelation. Chelation > > > surrounds the metals and then pulls them out and it takes a lot more time to do > > > this. MMS destroys the metal > > > compounds very quickly and then the metals leave the body right away. It’s not the metals that connect to the > > > body, only the compounds, as in tooth fillings. Metals cannot connect to anything in the > > > body. > > > Q: So with mms you won’t have the side > > > effects that people normally have with chelation? > > > A: Right. > > > > > > Excerpt from Jim Humble, The Master Mineral of the Third Millennium (Get it now www.miraclemineral.org ) > > > > > > Oxidation > > > Potential vs Oxidation Capacity > > > One > > > of the amazing things about ClO2 is > > > that its special construction > > > gives > > > it an unusually high oxidation capacity. The oxidation > > > potential > > > is > > > weak, but the capacity is that it can draw away 5 > > > electrons. > > > Think > > > of oxygen as a single-shot, large barrel, high powered > > > rifle, > > > and chlorine dioxide as a small-barrel hand held > > > machine > > > gun. > > > Each > > > chlorine dioxide ion can draw away 5 electrons from any > > > substance > > > that it is able to oxidize, while oxygen can only draw 2 > > > electrons. > > > So one ClO2 ion > > > can destroy up to 5 molecules. That’s more > > > than > > > any of the other oxidizers in the body. Amazingly, the > > > only > > > substances > > > in the human body that it can oxidize are pathogens and > > > poisonous > > > chemical compounds which are usually heavy metal > > > compounds. > > > Remember, that’s because of the very > > > low oxidation > > > potential > > > and the absence of any osmotic pressure exerted > > > inward > > > by chlorine dioxide on many cells. > > > ............. > > > > > > As > > > far as heavy metal compounds are concerned, their > > > chemistry > > > allows > > > them to be oxidized by ClO2(Chlorine dioxide). While ozone, hydrogen peroxide, > > > and > > > even oxygen, will oxidize the heavy metal compounds, they > > > seldom > > > arrive where the metal compounds are. The compounds are > > > doing > > > their damage deep in the tissues of various body organs. > > > These > > > 3 > > > oxidizers cannot penetrate deeply enough to reach them > > > because > > > they > > > all have a tendency to oxidize some of the body cells or > > > other > > > body > > > items before they arrive at the heavy metals. > > > > > > Chlorine > > > dioxide does penetrate deeply into the tissues > > > because > > > it is not used up by oxidizing other things before > > > reaching > > > the metal compounds or pathogens. The fact that > > > chlorine > > > dioxide can reach deep into the tissues is proof that it > > > does > > > not oxidize body cells. Further proof is in the fact that > > > hundreds > > > of thousands of lives have been saved so far. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 We are doing it alone, we were scared as well. But we have some positive results. We have first found eye contact and a general awareness then words, now two thoughts put together and sentences.It has taken us over a year and we are trying to do it every weekend but i found I was not seeing all the good that was the outcome of a weekend until 2 weeks had passed. Andy and other suggested we do it every 2 weekends and that is working.My daughter is 19 so I have seen her close down more and more over the years and it is fantastic to hear her. I always new she could understand. One teacher said you said she understood but I never believed you. Virginia To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 12:45:36 AM Subject: Re: Re: Metals chelation with MMS Hi Channa;could you please share a few details about these two protocols,how did u do it,for how long and what differences did you see?I think my son needs heavy metal chelation but my DAN simply refuses any such thing/medicine.I am scared of doing it all alone;don't know what to do. Hopefully your experience will give me that extra push I need. nbsp; thanks ana To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 11:34 AM Subject: Re: Metals chelation with MMS I have done both andy cutler chelation and the low frequent dose MMS protocol.....I have had amazing success with the AC chelation....But when my sons PANDA symptoms kicked in it was MMS that recovered him...so I am a fan of both protocols....it is hard for me to say which I would recomend first...both are great. and I have heard many more parents have success on both protocols. channa www.healyourchild.wordpress.com > > > > > > > > > This is from a post on the MMS yahoo group relating to metal chelation: > > > > > > ____________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > Here is some more about heavy metals in > > > Jim Humble's book and lecture transcripts: > > > > > > MMS Seminar Transcript June 7-18, > > > 2010 DAY THREE > > > http://www.genesis2forum.org/index.php?option=com_kunena & func=view & catid=28 & id=2327 & Itemid=66 > > > Q: What about heavy metals? > > > A: Protocol 1000. > > > Q: What about the white resin in dental > > > work? I’ve heard it is very > > > toxic. > > > A: I don’t know about the resin, but the > > > porcelain probably has some toxins in it until it hardens, and then there is no > > > problem with it. > > > Q: Do different metals produce different > > > voltages? > > > A: Yes. But they all have enough voltage to > > > “screw things up.†> > > Q: Do you > > > think mms works better than chelation for heavy metal > > > clearing? > > > A: MMS is at least ten times better because > > > in 2-3 weeks you can get all the metal out of the body. With chelation it will take a year or > > > two and thousands and thousands of dollars. MMS works in a different way than > > > chelation. Chelation > > > surrounds the metals and then pulls them out and it takes a lot more time to do > > > this. MMS destroys the metal > > > compounds very quickly and then the metals leave the body right away. It’s not the metals that connect to the > > > body, only the compounds, as in tooth fillings. Metals cannot connect to anything in the > > > body. > > > Q: So with mms you won’t have the side > > > effects that people normally have with chelation? > > > A: Right. > > > > > > Excerpt from Jim Humble, The Master Mineral of the Third Millennium (Get it now www.miraclemineral.org ) > > > > > > Oxidation > > > Potential vs Oxidation Capacity > > > One > > > of the amazing things about ClO2 is > > > that its special construction > > > gives > > > it an unusually high oxidation capacity. The oxidation > > > potential > > > is > > > weak, but the capacity is that it can draw away 5 > > > electrons. > > > Think > > > of oxygen as a single-shot, large barrel, high powered > > > rifle, > > > and chlorine dioxide as a small-barrel hand held > > > machine > > > gun. > > > Each > > > chlorine dioxide ion can draw away 5 electrons from any > > > substance > > > that it is able to oxidize, while oxygen can only draw 2 > > > electrons. > > > So one ClO2 ion > > > can destroy up to 5 molecules. That’s more > > > than > > > any of the other oxidizers in the body. Amazingly, the > > > only > > > substances > > > in the human body that it can oxidize are pathogens and > > > poisonous > > > chemical compounds which are usually heavy metal > > > compounds. > > > Remember, that’s because of the very > > > low oxidation > > > potential > > > and the absence of any osmotic pressure exerted > > > inward > > > by chlorine dioxide on many cells. > > > ............. > > > > > > As > > > far as heavy metal compounds are concerned, their > > > chemistry > > > allows > > > them to be oxidized by ClO2(Chlorine dioxide). While ozone, hydrogen peroxide, > > > and > > > even oxygen, will oxidize the heavy metal compounds, they > > > seldom > > > arrive where the metal compounds are. The compounds are > > > doing > > > their damage deep in the tissues of various body organs. > > > These > > > 3 > > > oxidizers cannot penetrate deeply enough to reach them > > > because > > > they > > > all have a tendency to oxidize some of the body cells or > > > other > > > body > > > items before they arrive at the heavy metals. > > > > > > Chlorine > > > dioxide does penetrate deeply into the tissues > > > because > > > it is not used up by oxidizing other things before > > > reaching > > > the metal compounds or pathogens. The fact that > > > chlorine > > > dioxide can reach deep into the tissues is proof that it > > > does > > > not oxidize body cells. Further proof is in the fact that > > > hundreds > > > of thousands of lives have been saved so far. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 Virginia, as Channa is moving house she might be while getting back to u.. I ve re posted Sasha very informative post wth all the links u nid.. Am sure Channa or Sasha do not mind my butting in and putting their previous mailSent from my iPod Channa,Which of the MMS protocol did you use? Virginia 341-22nd Street West Owen Sound ON N4K 4E9 To: mb12valtrex Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 9:34:34 PM Subject: Re: Metals chelation with MMS I have done both andy cutler chelation and the low frequent dose MMS protocol.....I have had amazing success with the AC chelation....But when my sons PANDA symptoms kicked in it was MMS that recovered him...so I am a fan of both protocols....it is hard for me to say which I would recomend first...both are great. and I have heard many more parents have success on both protocols. channa www.healyourchild.wordpress.com > > > > > > > > > This is from a post on the MMS yahoo group relating to metal chelation: > > > > > > ____________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > Here is some more about heavy metals in > > > Jim Humble's book and lecture transcripts: > > > > > > MMS Seminar Transcript June 7-18, > > > 2010 DAY THREE > > > http://www.genesis2forum.org/index.php?option=com_kunena & func=view & catid=28 & id=2327 & Itemid=66 > > > Q: What about heavy metals? > > > A: Protocol 1000. > > > Q: What about the white resin in dental > > > work? I’ve heard it is very > > > toxic. > > > A: I don’t know about the resin, but the > > > porcelain probably has some toxins in it until it hardens, and then there is no > > > problem with it. > > > Q: Do different metals produce different > > > voltages? > > > A: Yes. But they all have enough voltage to > > > “screw things up.†> > > Q: Do you > > > think mms works better than chelation for heavy metal > > > clearing? > > > A: MMS is at least ten times better because > > > in 2-3 weeks you can get all the metal out of the body. With chelation it will take a year or > > > two and thousands and thousands of dollars. MMS works in a different way than > > > chelation. Chelation > > > surrounds the metals and then pulls them out and it takes a lot more time to do > > > this. MMS destroys the metal > > > compounds very quickly and then the metals leave the body right away. It’s not the metals that connect to the > > > body, only the compounds, as in tooth fillings. Metals cannot connect to anything in the > > > body. > > > Q: So with mms you won’t have the side > > > effects that people normally have with chelation? > > > A: Right. > > > > > > Excerpt from Jim Humble, The Master Mineral of the Third Millennium (Get it now www.miraclemineral.org ) > > > > > > Oxidation > > > Potential vs Oxidation Capacity > > > One > > > of the amazing things about ClO2 is > > > that its special construction > > > gives > > > it an unusually high oxidation capacity. The oxidation > > > potential > > > is > > > weak, but the capacity is that it can draw away 5 > > > electrons. > > > Think > > > of oxygen as a single-shot, large barrel, high powered > > > rifle, > > > and chlorine dioxide as a small-barrel hand held > > > machine > > > gun. > > > Each > > > chlorine dioxide ion can draw away 5 electrons from any > > > substance > > > that it is able to oxidize, while oxygen can only draw 2 > > > electrons. > > > So one ClO2 ion > > > can destroy up to 5 molecules. That’s more > > > than > > > any of the other oxidizers in the body. Amazingly, the > > > only > > > substances > > > in the human body that it can oxidize are pathogens and > > > poisonous > > > chemical compounds which are usually heavy metal > > > compounds. > > > Remember, that’s because of the very > > > low oxidation > > > potential > > > and the absence of any osmotic pressure exerted > > > inward > > > by chlorine dioxide on many cells. > > > ............. > > > > > > As > > > far as heavy metal compounds are concerned, their > > > chemistry > > > allows > > > them to be oxidized by ClO2(Chlorine dioxide). While ozone, hydrogen peroxide, > > > and > > > even oxygen, will oxidize the heavy metal compounds, they > > > seldom > > > arrive where the metal compounds are. The compounds are > > > doing > > > their damage deep in the tissues of various body organs. > > > These > > > 3 > > > oxidizers cannot penetrate deeply enough to reach them > > > because > > > they > > > all have a tendency to oxidize some of the body cells or > > > other > > > body > > > items before they arrive at the heavy metals. > > > > > > Chlorine > > > dioxide does penetrate deeply into the tissues > > > because > > > it is not used up by oxidizing other things before > > > reaching > > > the metal compounds or pathogens. The fact that > > > chlorine > > > dioxide can reach deep into the tissues is proof that it > > > does > > > not oxidize body cells. Further proof is in the fact that > > > hundreds > > > of thousands of lives have been saved so far. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 Thanks for the reply Virginia.Could you please share a few more details about the dosage and frequency that you used?Did you use ALA alone or with DMPA?Did you give it every 3 hours as the protocol suggests?How long did it take before you noticed the slightest change?Did you encounter any side effects as well;and if so;what? I am so glad that it helped you and your daughter;greater still that you had the courage to do it all alone.I know how scary can it be,especially after my DAN said that he is dead against chelation and he's seen some very very bad results with them----a patient of him apparantly got seizures.Till that point I had made up my mind for AC protocol;now I am not so sure.literarily shaking and hunting for inspiration.The problem is my kid is not even reacting favourably to biomedical intervention.Anywayz;great to know your success story.Thanks once again. ana To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 11:00 PM Subject: Re: Re: Metals chelation with MMS We are doing it alone, we were scared as well. But we have some positive results. We have first found eye contact and a general awareness then words, now two thoughts put together and sentences.It has taken us over a year and we are trying to do it every weekend but i found I was not seeing all the good that was the outcome of a weekend until 2 weeks had passed. Andy and other suggested we do it every 2 weekends and that is working.My daughter is 19 so I have seen her close down more and more over the years and it is fantastic to hear her. I always new she could understand. One teacher said you said she understood but I never believed you. Virginia To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 12:45:36 AM Subject: Re: Re: Metals chelation with MMS Hi Channa;could you please share a few details about these two protocols,how did u do it,for how long and what differences did you see?I think my son needs heavy metal chelation but my DAN simply refuses any such thing/medicine.I am scared of doing it all alone;don't know what to do. Hopefully your experience will give me that extra push I need. nbsp; thanks ana To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 11:34 AM Subject: Re: Metals chelation with MMS I have done both andy cutler chelation and the low frequent dose MMS protocol.....I have had amazing success with the AC chelation....But when my sons PANDA symptoms kicked in it was MMS that recovered him...so I am a fan of both protocols....it is hard for me to say which I would recomend first...both are great. and I have heard many more parents have success on both protocols. channa www.healyourchild.wordpress.com > > > > > > > > > This is from a post on the MMS yahoo group relating to metal chelation: > > > > > > ____________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > Here is some more about heavy metals in > > > Jim Humble's book and lecture transcripts: > > > > > > MMS Seminar Transcript June 7-18, > > > 2010 DAY THREE > > > http://www.genesis2forum.org/index.php?option=com_kunena & func=view & catid=28 & id=2327 & Itemid=66 > > > Q: What about heavy metals? > > > A: Protocol 1000. > > > Q: What about the white resin in dental > > > work? I’ve heard it is very > > > toxic. > > > A: I don’t know about the resin, but the > > > porcelain probably has some toxins in it until it hardens, and then there is no > > > problem with it. > > > Q: Do different metals produce different > > > voltages? > > > A: Yes. But they all have enough voltage to > > > “screw things up.†> > > Q: Do you > > > think mms works better than chelation for heavy metal > > > clearing? > > > A: MMS is at least ten times better because > > > in 2-3 weeks you can get all the metal out of the body. With chelation it will take a year or > > > two and thousands and thousands of dollars. MMS works in a different way than > > > chelation. Chelation > > > surrounds the metals and then pulls them out and it takes a lot more time to do > > > this. MMS destroys the metal > > > compounds very quickly and then the metals leave the body right away. It’s not the metals that connect to the > > > body, only the compounds, as in tooth fillings. Metals cannot connect to anything in the > > > body. > > > Q: So with mms you won’t have the side > > > effects that people normally have with chelation? > > > A: Right. > > > > > > Excerpt from Jim Humble, The Master Mineral of the Third Millennium (Get it now www.miraclemineral.org ) > > > > > > Oxidation > > > Potential vs Oxidation Capacity > > > One > > > of the amazing things about ClO2 is > > > that its special construction > > > gives > > > it an unusually high oxidation capacity. The oxidation > > > potential > > > is > > > weak, but the capacity is that it can draw away 5 > > > electrons. > > > Think > > > of oxygen as a single-shot, large barrel, high powered > > > rifle, > > > and chlorine dioxide as a small-barrel hand held > > > machine > > > gun. > > > Each > > > chlorine dioxide ion can draw away 5 electrons from any > > > substance > > > that it is able to oxidize, while oxygen can only draw 2 > > > electrons. > > > So one ClO2 ion > > > can destroy up to 5 molecules. That’s more > > > than > > > any of the other oxidizers in the body. Amazingly, the > > > only > > > substances > > > in the human body that it can oxidize are pathogens and > > > poisonous > > > chemical compounds which are usually heavy metal > > > compounds. > > > Remember, that’s because of the very > > > low oxidation > > > potential > > > and the absence of any osmotic pressure exerted > > > inward > > > by chlorine dioxide on many cells. > > > ............. > > > > > > As > > > far as heavy metal compounds are concerned, their > > > chemistry > > > allows > > > them to be oxidized by ClO2(Chlorine dioxide). While ozone, hydrogen peroxide, > > > and > > > even oxygen, will oxidize the heavy metal compounds, they > > > seldom > > > arrive where the metal compounds are. The compounds are > > > doing > > > their damage deep in the tissues of various body organs. > > > These > > > 3 > > > oxidizers cannot penetrate deeply enough to reach them > > > because > > > they > > > all have a tendency to oxidize some of the body cells or > > > other > > > body > > > items before they arrive at the heavy metals. > > > > > > Chlorine > > > dioxide does penetrate deeply into the tissues > > > because > > > it is not used up by oxidizing other things before > > > reaching > > > the metal compounds or pathogens. The fact that > > > chlorine > > > dioxide can reach deep into the tissues is proof that it > > > does > > > not oxidize body cells. Further proof is in the fact that > > > hundreds > > > of thousands of lives have been saved so far. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 My daughter did not react to biomed until S. Bourardi and then ALA & DMSA together.We use the 3 hour and 4 hour at night. We use very small doses. I get a 250 cap and cut up into 25 doses. now I just sprinkle a small amount, what I think is right. I tried to raise the dosage thinking that would be good but I did not see the good small results that I would normally see. Then I found out just these small doses are the best. With larger doses she had non stop crying. I did not know it was from this but later found out because other parents mentioned it as well. I noticed changes after the first or second week. Small things like more eye contact and a gaining of awareness.We use pineapple juice with DMSA, ALA, mag, vit e, vit c, zinc, & melatonin at night doses. I give more vit c at meals and mag with her other meds which are RX. She usually takes it by syringe in the mouth instead of off a spoon.In the beginning I wasn't sure why she was changing because we were doing several things at once. She got pneumonia and had a seizure and had to be in the hospital just weeks after starting this. I was a little worried but the doctor told me she seizure d because of the pneumonia. I then started it 6 months later and again saw the benefits. I tend to need real one on one time with her to see the smaller effects like she can put her arm up her back. She was playing patty cake with me.She still can't get dressed on her own but she got in the tub and stood up by herself. When doing homeopathic chelation they say they relive past events. I see that she is fixed on sponge bob and certain sayings from before. I changes every several weeks, things she used to do. Not sure where this is going.I am thinking to do MMS in the summer when if she is crazy for some time no one will really know. I did read and listen to the woman Kerry. She like the enemas. Also was looking at Humbles autism protocol and his new method with the gas. The stuff really tastes bad after only a weak.Virginia To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 9:22:58 PM Subject: Re: Re: Metals chelation with MMS Thanks for the reply Virginia.Could you please share a few more details about the dosage and frequency that you used?Did you use ALA alone or with DMPA?Did you give it every 3 hours as the protocol suggests?How long did it take before you noticed the slightest change?Did you encounter any side effects as well;and if so;what? I am so glad that it helped you and your daughter;greater still that you had the courage to do it all alone.I know how scary can it be,especially after my DAN said that he is dead against chelation and he's seen some very very bad results with them----a patient of him apparantly got seizures.Till that point I had made up my mind for AC protocol;now I am not so sure.literarily shaking and hunting for inspiration.The problem is my kid is not even reacting favourably to biomedical intervention.Anywayz;great to know your success story.Thanks once again. ana To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 11:00 PM Subject: Re: Re: Metals chelation with MMS We are doing it alone, we were scared as well. But we have some positive results. We have first found eye contact and a general awareness then words, now two thoughts put together and sentences.It has taken us over a year and we are trying to do it every weekend but i found I was not seeing all the good that was the outcome of a weekend until 2 weeks had passed. Andy and other suggested we do it every 2 weekends and that is working.My daughter is 19 so I have seen her close down more and more over the years and it is fantastic to hear her. I always new she could understand. One teacher said you said she understood but I never believed you. Virginia To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 12:45:36 AM Subject: Re: Re: Metals chelation with MMS Hi Channa;could you please share a few details about these two protocols,how did u do it,for how long and what differences did you see?I think my son needs heavy metal chelation but my DAN simply refuses any such thing/medicine.I am scared of doing it all alone;don't know what to do. Hopefully your experience will give me that extra push I need. nbsp; thanks ana To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 11:34 AM Subject: Re: Metals chelation with MMS I have done both andy cutler chelation and the low frequent dose MMS protocol.....I have had amazing success with the AC chelation....But when my sons PANDA symptoms kicked in it was MMS that recovered him...so I am a fan of both protocols....it is hard for me to say which I would recomend first...both are great. and I have heard many more parents have success on both protocols. channa www.healyourchild.wordpress.com > > > > > > > > > This is from a post on the MMS yahoo group relating to metal chelation: > > > > > > ____________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > Here is some more about heavy metals in > > > Jim Humble's book and lecture transcripts: > > > > > > MMS Seminar Transcript June 7-18, > > > 2010 DAY THREE > > > http://www.genesis2forum.org/index.php?option=com_kunena & func=view & catid=28 & id=2327 & Itemid=66 > > > Q: What about heavy metals? > > > A: Protocol 1000. > > > Q: What about the white resin in dental > > > work? I’ve heard it is very > > > toxic. > > > A: I don’t know about the resin, but the > > > porcelain probably has some toxins in it until it hardens, and then there is no > > > problem with it. > > > Q: Do different metals produce different > > > voltages? > > > A: Yes. But they all have enough voltage to > > > “screw things up.†> > > Q: Do you > > > think mms works better than chelation for heavy metal > > > clearing? > > > A: MMS is at least ten times better because > > > in 2-3 weeks you can get all the metal out of the body. With chelation it will take a year or > > > two and thousands and thousands of dollars. MMS works in a different way than > > > chelation. Chelation > > > surrounds the metals and then pulls them out and it takes a lot more time to do > > > this. MMS destroys the metal > > > compounds very quickly and then the metals leave the body right away. It’s not the metals that connect to the > > > body, only the compounds, as in tooth fillings. Metals cannot connect to anything in the > > > body. > > > Q: So with mms you won’t have the side > > > effects that people normally have with chelation? > > > A: Right. > > > > > > Excerpt from Jim Humble, The Master Mineral of the Third Millennium (Get it now www.miraclemineral.org ) > > > > > > Oxidation > > > Potential vs Oxidation Capacity > > > One > > > of the amazing things about ClO2 is > > > that its special construction > > > gives > > > it an unusually high oxidation capacity. The oxidation > > > potential > > > is > > > weak, but the capacity is that it can draw away 5 > > > electrons. > > > Think > > > of oxygen as a single-shot, large barrel, high powered > > > rifle, > > > and chlorine dioxide as a small-barrel hand held > > > machine > > > gun. > > > Each > > > chlorine dioxide ion can draw away 5 electrons from any > > > substance > > > that it is able to oxidize, while oxygen can only draw 2 > > > electrons. > > > So one ClO2 ion > > > can destroy up to 5 molecules. That’s more > > > than > > > any of the other oxidizers in the body. Amazingly, the > > > only > > > substances > > > in the human body that it can oxidize are pathogens and > > > poisonous > > > chemical compounds which are usually heavy metal > > > compounds. > > > Remember, that’s because of the very > > > low oxidation > > > potential > > > and the absence of any osmotic pressure exerted > > > inward > > > by chlorine dioxide on many cells. > > > ............. > > > > > > As > > > far as heavy metal compounds are concerned, their > > > chemistry > > > allows > > > them to be oxidized by ClO2(Chlorine dioxide). While ozone, hydrogen peroxide, > > > and > > > even oxygen, will oxidize the heavy metal compounds, they > > > seldom > > > arrive where the metal compounds are. The compounds are > > > doing > > > their damage deep in the tissues of various body organs. > > > These > > > 3 > > > oxidizers cannot penetrate deeply enough to reach them > > > because > > > they > > > all have a tendency to oxidize some of the body cells or > > > other > > > body > > > items before they arrive at the heavy metals. > > > > > > Chlorine > > > dioxide does penetrate deeply into the tissues > > > because > > > it is not used up by oxidizing other things before > > > reaching > > > the metal compounds or pathogens. The fact that > > > chlorine > > > dioxide can reach deep into the tissues is proof that it > > > does > > > not oxidize body cells. Further proof is in the fact that > > > hundreds > > > of thousands of lives have been saved so far. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 Thanks for the detailed reply.You've given me a lot to think about.Do you have any idea about Dr.Buttar and his method of chelation?Read a little about him on the net. &nbs p; ana To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 12:44 PM Subject: Re: Re: Metals chelation with MMS My daughter did not react to biomed until S. Bourardi and then ALA & DMSA together.We use the 3 hour and 4 hour at night. We use very small doses. I get a 250 cap and cut up into 25 doses. now I just sprinkle a small amount, what I think is right. I tried to raise the dosage thinking that would be good but I did not see the good small results that I would normally see. Then I found out just these small doses are the best. With larger doses she had non stop crying. I did not know it was from this but later found out because other parents mentioned it as well. I noticed changes after the first or second week. Small things like more eye contact and a gaining of awareness.We use pineapple juice with DMSA, ALA, mag, vit e, vit c, zinc, & melatonin at night doses. I give more vit c at meals and mag with her other meds which are RX. She usually takes it by syringe in the mouth instead of off a spoon.In the beginning I wasn't sure why she was changing because we were doing several things at once. She got pneumonia and had a seizure and had to be in the hospital just weeks after starting this. I was a little worried but the doctor told me she seizure d because of the pneumonia. I then started it 6 months later and again saw the benefits. I tend to need real one on one time with her to see the smaller effects like she can put her arm up her back. She was playing patty cake with me.She still can't get dressed on her own but she got in the tub and stood up by herself. When doing homeopathic chelation they say they relive past events. I see that she is fixed on sponge bob and certain sayings from before. I changes every several weeks, things she used to do. Not sure where this is going.I am thinking to do MMS in the summer when if she is crazy for some time no one will really know. I did read and listen to the woman Kerry. She like the enemas. Also was looking at Humbles autism protocol and his new method with the gas. The stuff really tastes bad after only a weak.Virginia To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 9:22:58 PM Subject: Re: Re: Metals chelation with MMS Thanks for the reply Virginia.Could you please share a few more details about the dosage and frequency that you used?Did you use ALA alone or with DMPA?Did you give it every 3 hours as the protocol suggests?How long did it take before you noticed the slightest change?Did you encounter any side effects as well;and if so;what? I am so glad that it helped you and your daughter;greater still that you had the courage to do it all alone.I know how scary can it be,especially after my DAN said that he is dead against chelation and he's seen some very very bad results with them----a patient of him apparantly got seizures.Till that point I had made up my mind for AC protocol;now I am not so sure.literarily shaking and hunting for inspiration.The problem is my kid is not even reacting favourably to biomedical intervention.Anywayz;great to know your success story.Thanks once again. ana To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 11:00 PM Subject: Re: Re: Metals chelation with MMS We are doing it alone, we were scared as well. But we have some positive results. We have first found eye contact and a general awareness then words, now two thoughts put together and sentences.It has taken us over a year and we are trying to do it every weekend but i found I was not seeing all the good that was the outcome of a weekend until 2 weeks had passed. Andy and other suggested we do it every 2 weekends and that is working.My daughter is 19 so I have seen her close down more and more over the years and it is fantastic to hear her. I always new she could understand. One teacher said you said she understood but I never believed you. Virginia To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 12:45:36 AM Subject: Re: Re: Metals chelation with MMS Hi Channa;could you please share a few details about these two protocols,how did u do it,for how long and what differences did you see?I think my son needs heavy metal chelation but my DAN simply refuses any such thing/medicine.I am scared of doing it all alone;don't know what to do. Hopefully your experience will give me that extra push I need. nbsp; thanks ana To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 11:34 AM Subject: Re: Metals chelation with MMS I have done both andy cutler chelation and the low frequent dose MMS protocol.....I have had amazing success with the AC chelation....But when my sons PANDA symptoms kicked in it was MMS that recovered him...so I am a fan of both protocols....it is hard for me to say which I would recomend first...both are great. and I have heard many more parents have success on both protocols. channa www.healyourchild.wordpress.com > > > > > > > > > This is from a post on the MMS yahoo group relating to metal chelation: > > > > > > ____________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > Here is some more about heavy metals in > > > Jim Humble's book and lecture transcripts: > > > > > > MMS Seminar Transcript June 7-18, > > > 2010 DAY THREE > > > http://www.genesis2forum.org/index.php?option=com_kunena & func=view & catid=28 & id=2327 & Itemid=66 > > > Q: What about heavy metals? > > > A: Protocol 1000. > > > Q: What about the white resin in dental > > > work? I’ve heard it is very > > > toxic. > > > A: I don’t know about the resin, but the > > > porcelain probably has some toxins in it until it hardens, and then there is no > > > problem with it. > > > Q: Do different metals produce different > > > voltages? > > > A: Yes. But they all have enough voltage to > > > “screw things up.†> > > Q: Do you > > > think mms works better than chelation for heavy metal > > > clearing? > > > A: MMS is at least ten times better because > > > in 2-3 weeks you can get all the metal out of the body. With chelation it will take a year or > > > two and thousands and thousands of dollars. MMS works in a different way than > > > chelation. Chelation > > > surrounds the metals and then pulls them out and it takes a lot more time to do > > > this. MMS destroys the metal > > > compounds very quickly and then the metals leave the body right away. It’s not the metals that connect to the > > > body, only the compounds, as in tooth fillings. Metals cannot connect to anything in the > > > body. > > > Q: So with mms you won’t have the side > > > effects that people normally have with chelation? > > > A: Right. > > > > > > Excerpt from Jim Humble, The Master Mineral of the Third Millennium (Get it now www.miraclemineral.org ) > > > > > > Oxidation > > > Potential vs Oxidation Capacity > > > One > > > of the amazing things about ClO2 is > > > that its special construction > > > gives > > > it an unusually high oxidation capacity. The oxidation > > > potential > > > is > > > weak, but the capacity is that it can draw away 5 > > > electrons. > > > Think > > > of oxygen as a single-shot, large barrel, high powered > > > rifle, > > > and chlorine dioxide as a small-barrel hand held > > > machine > > > gun. > > > Each > > > chlorine dioxide ion can draw away 5 electrons from any > > > substance > > > that it is able to oxidize, while oxygen can only draw 2 > > > electrons. > > > So one ClO2 ion > > > can destroy up to 5 molecules. That’s more > > > than > > > any of the other oxidizers in the body. Amazingly, the > > > only > > > substances > > > in the human body that it can oxidize are pathogens and > > > poisonous > > > chemical compounds which are usually heavy metal > > > compounds. > > > Remember, that’s because of the very > > > low oxidation > > > potential > > > and the absence of any osmotic pressure exerted > > > inward > > > by chlorine dioxide on many cells. > > > ............. > > > > > > As > > > far as heavy metal compounds are concerned, their > > > chemistry > > > allows > > > them to be oxidized by ClO2(Chlorine dioxide). While ozone, hydrogen peroxide, > > > and > > > even oxygen, will oxidize the heavy metal compounds, they > > > seldom > > > arrive where the metal compounds are. The compounds are > > > doing > > > their damage deep in the tissues of various body organs. > > > These > > > 3 > > > oxidizers cannot penetrate deeply enough to reach them > > > because > > > they > > > all have a tendency to oxidize some of the body cells or > > > other > > > body > > > items before they arrive at the heavy metals. > > > > > > Chlorine > > > dioxide does penetrate deeply into the tissues > > > because > > > it is not used up by oxidizing other things before > > > reaching > > > the metal compounds or pathogens. The fact that > > > chlorine > > > dioxide can reach deep into the tissues is proof that it > > > does > > > not oxidize body cells. Further proof is in the fact that > > > hundreds > > > of thousands of lives have been saved so far. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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