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Hi everyone,This is way off topic, but can you guys share with me your favorite/cleanest brand of coq10? My mom's been having strange episodes of heart palpitations, skipped/extra beats, fluctuating blood pressure, muscle weakness/pain.After doing a little research, I came across a number of articles linking all these symptoms to damage from statin medicines. (cholesterol meds).Apparently, statins will deplete the body's supple of COq10. She plans to stop taking these (thank God), but wants to do it slowly (I don't agree but hey! whatever gets the horse to the water....). I can probably get her to start taking the coq10 in the mean time. So what brand do you guys suggest?Also, there is probably a more ideal place

to get this answer, but while I'm at it: She's been on Synthroid for nearly thirty years. (Her thyroid was removed). Does anyone know if it's too late in the game for her to switch to Armour? I think her plan is to stop all her meds except the inhalers for her COPD (she is on oxygen) and the Synthroid. If we could get her on the Armour, that would only leave the inhalers. I'll take anything and everything you guys have to offer.Tammy

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Hi Tammy,

The first thought I had when I read her symptoms was " hyperthyroid. " Then I

read that she is on synthroid and doesn't have a thyroid. Has she had her levels

checked recently? Those are classic hyperthyroid symptoms and she may need an

adjustment to her medication.

As far as I understand it, you can switch to Armour at any time. The thing to

understand abour Armour though is that because it comes from pig thyroid, it has

a different ratio of hormones than humans do. My oldest daughter is on Armour

and does very well. When my husband tried to go on Armour though, his T3 went

sky high because his body does a very good job of converting T4 to T3. The

additional T3 in Armour was too much for him and he was miserable. He only

needs the tiniest amount of Synthroid to balance him out.

So even though for most situations we try to go as natural as possible, for him

the synthroid really is the best option.

I hope she figures out what's going on.

Cathy

>

> Hi everyone,

>

> This is way off topic, but can you guys share with me your favorite/cleanest

brand of coq10?

> My mom's been having strange episodes of heart palpitations, skipped/extra

beats, fluctuating blood pressure, muscle weakness/pain.

> After doing a little research, I came across a number of articles linking all

these symptoms to damage from statin medicines. (cholesterol meds).

> Apparently, statins will deplete the body's supple of COq10. She plans to

stop taking these (thank God), but wants to do it slowly (I don't agree but hey!

whatever gets the horse to the water....).

> I can probably get her to start taking the coq10 in the mean time. So what

brand do you guys suggest?

>

> Also, there is probably a more ideal place to get this answer, but while I'm

at it: She's been on Synthroid for nearly thirty years. (Her thyroid was

removed). Does anyone know if it's too late in the game for her to switch to

Armour? I think her plan is to stop all her meds except the inhalers for her

COPD (she is on oxygen) and the Synthroid. If we could get her on the Armour,

that would only leave the inhalers.

>

> I'll take anything and everything you guys have to offer.

>

> Tammy

>

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Hi Tammy, I agree w Cathy that ur mom should have her TSH and free T4 checked.

Also, she should at least get the basic cardiac workup done. Statind can deplete

coQ10. After her basic workup is done and u have ruled out thyroid and cardiac

issues, u can start supplementing coq10. She will benefit more from ubiquitous

and integrative therapeutics is a good brand. Some patients who do not tolerate

statins can sometimes try a different type of statin and then don't experience

the sideeffects . Good luck and please do get the thyroid and basic cardiac

workup done as we should always rule out the worst possibility first.

is

> >

> > Hi everyone,

> >

> > This is way off topic, but can you guys share with me your favorite/cleanest

brand of coq10?

> > My mom's been having strange episodes of heart palpitations, skipped/extra

beats, fluctuating blood pressure, muscle weakness/pain.

> > After doing a little research, I came across a number of articles linking

all these symptoms to damage from statin medicines. (cholesterol meds).

> > Apparently, statins will deplete the body's supple of COq10. She plans to

stop taking these (thank God), but wants to do it slowly (I don't agree but hey!

whatever gets the horse to the water....).

> > I can probably get her to start taking the coq10 in the mean time. So what

brand do you guys suggest?

> >

> > Also, there is probably a more ideal place to get this answer, but while I'm

at it: She's been on Synthroid for nearly thirty years. (Her thyroid was

removed). Does anyone know if it's too late in the game for her to switch to

Armour? I think her plan is to stop all her meds except the inhalers for her

COPD (she is on oxygen) and the Synthroid. If we could get her on the Armour,

that would only leave the inhalers.

> >

> > I'll take anything and everything you guys have to offer.

> >

> > Tammy

> >

>

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Cathy,

Wow! I'm so glad I asked. Yes, she did have her levelnchecked (routine) quite a few months ago. They were high, so the doctor has her taking her Synthroid every other day. Maybe she needs to talk with doc about checking levels again/lowering dosage. Thanks a million!

Tammy

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Hi Tammy,

The first thought I had when I read her symptoms was " hyperthyroid. " Then I read that she is on synthroid and doesn't have a thyroid. Has she had her levels checked recently? Those are classic hyperthyroid symptoms and she may need an adjustment to her medication.

As far as I understand it, you can switch to Armour at any time. The thing to understand abour Armour though is that because it comes from pig thyroid, it has a different ratio of hormones than humans do. My oldest daughter is on Armour and does very well. When my husband tried to go on Armour though, his T3 went sky high because his body does a very good job of converting T4 to T3. The additional T3 in Armour was too much for him and he was miserable. He only needs the tiniest amount of Synthroid to balance him out.

So even though for most situations we try to go as natural as possible, for him the synthroid really is the best option.

I hope she figures out what's going on.

Cathy

>

> Hi everyone,

>

> This is way off topic, but can you guys share with me your favorite/cleanest brand of coq10? 

> My mom's been having strange episodes of heart palpitations, skipped/extra beats, fluctuating blood pressure, muscle weakness/pain.

> After doing a little research, I came across a number of articles linking all these symptoms to damage from statin medicines. (cholesterol meds).

> Apparently, statins will deplete the body's supple of COq10.  She plans to stop taking these (thank God), but wants to do it slowly (I don't agree but hey!  whatever gets the horse to the water....).

>  I can probably get her to start taking the coq10 in the mean time.  So what brand do you guys suggest?

>

> Also, there is probably a more ideal place to get this answer, but while I'm at it:  She's been on Synthroid for nearly thirty years. (Her thyroid was removed).  Does anyone know if it's  too late in the game for her to switch to Armour?  I think her plan is to stop all her meds except the inhalers for her COPD (she is on oxygen) and the Synthroid.  If we could get her on the Armour, that would only leave the inhalers. 

>

> I'll take anything and everything you guys have to offer.

>

> Tammy

>

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I am definitely not an expert, but...taking her synthroid every other day??

That doesn't sound right at all. If she doesn't have a thyroid, she has no way

to make the hormones. She should be getting the right dose at a nice regular

pace.

She also shouldn't have had high lab results and a change to her medication

without follow up blood work six weeks later to make she sure she is in range

now. Hyperthyroid can be quite dangerous if left unchecked.

Did an endocrinologist tell her to do that or her regular doctor? She may need

a specialist at this point if she isn't already seeing one. My daughter and

husband get excellent care from their pediatrician and family physician, but I

am seeing a thyroidologist (an endocrinologist who treats only the thyroid and

parathyroid.)

Cathy

> >

> > Hi everyone,

> >

> > This is way off topic, but can you guys share with me your favorite/cleanest

brand of coq10?

> > My mom's been having strange episodes of heart palpitations, skipped/extra

beats, fluctuating blood pressure, muscle weakness/pain.

> > After doing a little research, I came across a number of articles linking

all these symptoms to damage from statin medicines. (cholesterol meds).

> > Apparently, statins will deplete the body's supple of COq10. She plans to

stop taking these (thank God), but wants to do it slowly (I don't agree but hey!

whatever gets the horse to the water....).

> > I can probably get her to start taking the coq10 in the mean time. So what

brand do you guys suggest?

> >

> > Also, there is probably a more ideal place to get this answer, but while I'm

at it: She's been on Synthroid for nearly thirty years. (Her thyroid was

removed). Does anyone know if it's too late in the game for her to switch to

Armour? I think her plan is to stop all her meds except the inhalers for her

COPD (she is on oxygen) and the Synthroid. If we could get her on the Armour,

that would only leave the inhalers.

> >

> > I'll take anything and everything you guys have to offer.

> >

> > Tammy

> >

>

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is, thank you so much! She's had the basic cardiac stuff done. (ekg and she she wore the 24 hr. Box thing)..everything looks good. I know she made an appt. with a cardiologist so thats coming up soon. She's on so many meds, she has to set her phone alarm so she doesnt forget any. It scares the shit out of me. Anyway, her doctor will have no problem checking her thyroid levels again. Do you guys think its enough to test the way a typical mainstream doctor would or do you think we should push to have the free T3 and 4's tested????? Oh...now that I'm thinking about it - the last time she had labs done, the doctor said her red blood cells looked "fat" so that had to check for sk.ethkng else (I forget what, but it was fine....which really doesnt sit well with me but she gets sooooo tired of listening to my mouth. Ugh).

Tammy

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Sent: Tue May 15 16:56:32 EDT 2012

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Subject: Re: OT

Hi Tammy, I agree w Cathy that ur mom should have her TSH and free T4 checked. Also, she should at least get the basic cardiac workup done. Statind can deplete coQ10. After her basic workup is done and u have ruled out thyroid and cardiac issues, u can start supplementing coq10. She will benefit more from ubiquitous and integrative therapeutics is a good brand. Some patients who do not tolerate statins can sometimes try a different type of statin and then don't experience the sideeffects . Good luck and please do get the thyroid and basic cardiac workup done as we should always rule out the worst possibility first.

is

> >

> > Hi everyone,

> >

> > This is way off topic, but can you guys share with me your favorite/cleanest brand of coq10? 

> > My mom's been having strange episodes of heart palpitations, skipped/extra beats, fluctuating blood pressure, muscle weakness/pain.

> > After doing a little research, I came across a number of articles linking all these symptoms to damage from statin medicines. (cholesterol meds).

> > Apparently, statins will deplete the body's supple of COq10.  She plans to stop taking these (thank God), but wants to do it slowly (I don't agree but hey!  whatever gets the horse to the water....).

> >  I can probably get her to start taking the coq10 in the mean time.  So what brand do you guys suggest?

> >

> > Also, there is probably a more ideal place to get this answer, but while I'm at it:  She's been on Synthroid for nearly thirty years. (Her thyroid was removed).  Does anyone know if it's  too late in the game for her to switch to Armour?  I think her plan is to stop all her meds except the inhalers for her COPD (she is on oxygen) and the Synthroid.  If we could get her on the Armour, that would only leave the inhalers. 

> >

> > I'll take anything and everything you guys have to offer.

> >

> > Tammy

> >

>

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I agree with Cathy. Cathy, I love it when patients are so well-informed.

Tammy, do you know what dose of synthroid she is on? Just get TSH and Free T4

checked. Why did she have the thyroidectomy? If you want, you can email me her

list of meds and I can tell you if some of them are totally unnecessary.

is

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Oops! I was mistaken. She takes the Synthroid 6 days out of 7 (they didnt want to change the script... probably insurance b.s. idk). Her thyroid was recently retested and levels looked fine not sure what they test for, though)She used to see an endo years and years ago but now her general practioner handles it. Also her skin has gotten super thin (pretty quickly)...I wonder if its a clue?

Thanks so much for your health, Cathy!

Tammy

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She had thyroid cancer.

Thank you so much! I will send you that list of meds (off list) tomorrow when I'm on my desk top. It is her plan to stop taking most of them...the more she takes, the lousier she feels. Then there's my dad, who is 7 years older, takes NOTHING and is healthy as a horse.

-Tammy

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Tammy, even though she had normal levels last time, consider checking the levels

again to see if she needs a dose adjustment. And again, she needs an

endocrinologist on board.

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I have a dear friend who is an insulin salesswoman for big pharma (talk about the odd couple lol). I will see who she recommends and get those retested as you suggested. Thank you : )

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Hi is.Here's the list of my mom's meds.Thanks so much for taking the time to look at this. I know you've been having a hard time of your own with your little guy lately : (I hope he's feeling better soon. I pray for us all each and every day.Levothyroxine 125 mcg (skips Wednesdays)Hydrochlorothiazide .25 (blood pressure)Lisinopril 5 mg (blood pressure)DILT- XR - 120 mg (blood pressure)Flovent HFA - 220 2 puffs 2x/day (COPD)Spiriva - 18 mcg 1/day (COPD)Albuteral 2 puffs 2x/day (COPD emergency)Valtrex - 500 mg 2x/day or Zorvirax ointment or Lidocaine patch

(Shingles)Albuterol NebsCentrum Silver multiCalcium & D 600 mg.Super B complexVitamin D 1000 IUAcidophilus (This does well to help her diverticulitis(sp??)AdvilHydrocodoneFlexerilAlso...her skin has gotten very thin very quickly (over the past year or so). She had a very severe outbreak of psoriasis about 8 or 9 years ago when Tom was a baby. It was really really bad. Covered her body head to toe. The medicine the doc prescribed was burning her skin....poor thing just assumed it was the psoriasis causing so much pain. And here I was smearing it all over her body twice a day : ( She was in awful, awful shape. Shingles followed shortly after. Her thyroid was removed due to thryoid cancer many years ago. She is also dx'd with diverticulitis. The acidophilus can usually keep it at bay. It seems like an awful lot of medication, doesn't

it????I should note that she is very successful keeping cholosterol in check with diet and excercise - so she wants to ween herself off those, first.The COPD requires contant oxygen now. She is still active and easily excercises and socializes with it.She can not stand the valtrex but the shingles can be very painful. Sometimes suppressing the outbreak can be more painful then letting them emerge. She goes back and forth about it. But the side effects can give palpitations and such. So I think she's throwing that one out the window, too.Thanks again, Lexi. I really appreciate it.I will encourage her to find an endo.I love my mom so much. Honest to God, I would gladly give that lady my lungs and my very skin if I

could.Tammy To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 4:56 PM Subject: Re: OT

Hi Tammy, I agree w Cathy that ur mom should have her TSH and free T4 checked. Also, she should at least get the basic cardiac workup done. Statind can deplete coQ10. After her basic workup is done and u have ruled out thyroid and cardiac issues, u can start supplementing coq10. She will benefit more from ubiquitous and integrative therapeutics is a good brand. Some patients who do not tolerate statins can sometimes try a different type of statin and then don't experience the sideeffects . Good luck and please do get the thyroid and basic cardiac workup done as we should always rule out the worst possibility first.

is

> >

> > Hi everyone,

> >

> > This is way off topic, but can you guys share with me your favorite/cleanest brand of coq10?

> > My mom's been having strange episodes of heart palpitations, skipped/extra beats, fluctuating blood pressure, muscle weakness/pain.

> > After doing a little research, I came across a number of articles linking all these symptoms to damage from statin medicines. (cholesterol meds).

> > Apparently, statins will deplete the body's supple of COq10. She plans to stop taking these (thank God), but wants to do it slowly (I don't agree but hey! whatever gets the horse to the water....).

> > I can probably get her to start taking the coq10 in the mean time. So what brand do you guys suggest?

> >

> > Also, there is probably a more ideal place to get this answer, but while I'm at it: She's been on Synthroid for nearly thirty years. (Her thyroid was removed). Does anyone know if it's too late in the game for her to switch to Armour? I think her plan is to stop all her meds except the inhalers for her COPD (she is on oxygen) and the Synthroid. If we could get her on the Armour, that would only leave the inhalers.

> >

> > I'll take anything and everything you guys have to offer.

> >

> > Tammy

> >

>

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albuterol can be hard on the heart speed, one thing you could look at its at xpenox instead as it can help. singles lauracidian can help

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Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 9:38 AM

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Hi is.

Here's the list of my mom's meds.

Thanks so much for taking the time to look at this. I know you've been having a hard time of your own with your little guy lately : (

I hope he's feeling better soon. I pray for us all each and every day.

Levothyroxine 125 mcg (skips Wednesdays)

Hydrochlorothiazide .25 (blood pressure)

Lisinopril 5 mg (blood pressure)

DILT- XR - 120 mg (blood pressure)

Flovent HFA - 220 2 puffs 2x/day (COPD)

Spiriva - 18 mcg 1/day (COPD)

Albuteral 2 puffs 2x/day (COPD emergency)

Valtrex - 500 mg 2x/day or

Zorvirax ointment or Lidocaine patch (Shingles)

Albuterol Nebs

Centrum Silver multi

Calcium & D 600 mg.

Super B complex

Vitamin D 1000 IU

Acidophilus (This does well to help her diverticulitis(sp??)

Advil

Hydrocodone

Flexeril

Also...her skin has gotten very thin very quickly (over the past year or so). She had a very severe outbreak of psoriasis about 8 or 9 years ago when Tom was a baby. It was really really bad. Covered her body head to toe. The medicine the doc prescribed was burning her skin....poor thing just assumed it was the psoriasis causing so much pain. And here I was smearing it all over her body twice a day : ( She was in awful, awful shape. Shingles followed shortly after.

Her thyroid was removed due to thryoid cancer many years ago.

She is also dx'd with diverticulitis. The acidophilus can usually keep it at bay.

It seems like an awful lot of medication, doesn't it????

I should note that she is very successful keeping cholosterol in check with diet and excercise - so she wants to ween herself off those, first.

The COPD requires contant oxygen now. She is still active and easily excercises and socializes with it.

She can not stand the valtrex but the shingles can be very painful. Sometimes suppressing the outbreak can be more painful then letting them emerge. She goes back and forth about it. But the side effects can give palpitations and such. So I think she's throwing that one out the window, too.

Thanks again, Lexi. I really appreciate it.

I will encourage her to find an endo.

I love my mom so much. Honest to God, I would gladly give that lady my lungs and my very skin if I could.

Tammy

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 4:56 PMSubject: Re: OT

Hi Tammy, I agree w Cathy that ur mom should have her TSH and free T4 checked. Also, she should at least get the basic cardiac workup done. Statind can deplete coQ10. After her basic workup is done and u have ruled out thyroid and cardiac issues, u can start supplementing coq10. She will benefit more from ubiquitous and integrative therapeutics is a good brand. Some patients who do not tolerate statins can sometimes try a different type of statin and then don't experience the sideeffects . Good luck and please do get the thyroid and basic cardiac workup done as we should always rule out the worst possibility first.is> >> > Hi everyone,> > > > This is way off topic, but can you guys share with me your favorite/cleanest brand of coq10? > > My mom's been having strange episodes of heart palpitations, skipped/extra beats, fluctuating blood pressure, muscle weakness/pain.> > After doing a little research, I came across a number of articles linking all these symptoms to damage from statin medicines. (cholesterol meds).> > Apparently, statins will deplete the body's supple of COq10. She plans to stop taking these (thank God), but wants to do it slowly (I don't agree but hey! whatever gets the horse to the water....).> > I can probably get her to start taking the coq10 in the mean time. So what brand do you guys suggest?> > > > Also, there is probably a more ideal place to get this answer, but while I'm at it: She's been on Synthroid for nearly thirty years. (Her thyroid was removed). Does anyone know if it's too late in the game for her to switch to Armour? I think her plan is to stop all her meds except the inhalers for her COPD (she is on oxygen) and the Synthroid. If we could get her on the Armour, that would only leave the inhalers. > > > > I'll take anything and everything you guys have to offer.> > > > Tammy> >>

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