Re: age limits, looking young etc.

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It is 18 here too. Or, 18 is the drinking age (meaning you can drink alcoholic beverages in restaurants, and it is legal to offer you alcoholic beverages in a home too), but you need to be 20 to buy beverages from the liquor stores. It's a bit strange to have that difference, admittedly, but I think the reasoning is that someone who is 18 will be able to drink only where there is some kind of supervision. However, while that reasoning may make sense in theory, in the real world I don't think it quite works that way, so I wouldn't mind if the liquor store age limit was 18 too. I think 18 and 16 are the two most common drinking age limits in most of Europe. In Denmark, for instance, it's 16 on buying alcoholic beverages in stores, and 18 on drinking in restaurants. In other words, they make a difference between the two too, but the difference is the other way around compared to the Swedish drinking ages. Don't know what the reasoning is there though. Maybe that you should "practice" drinking on you own before being allowed to do it in public... I think you are right that age limits and prohibitions may work to mystify and make things more interesting than it would otherwise be. I am quite sure that is the case with the Swedish age limit (18) on buying cigarettes (and other kinds of tobacco). There used to be no age limit, but it was introduced in 1997 to minimize smoking among teenagers (and younger kids, I suppose, although they rarely smoke). And I was against it on precisely that ground. Teenagers who start smoking usually do so because they want to be/act/be seen as grown up, and how much stronger will the "grown up effect" be if you need to be legally adult to buy it?On a fun side note, both and myself have been denied to buy tobacco because we hadn't got any ID (to prove our age) with us, even after turning 30. I guess we must look young... And before the age limit on tobacco had been introduced, but after I was definitely grown up I once had strange experience. I was stepping out of the university building and was on my way home, I picked up a cigarette and lit it (I smoked back then), and then an upset woman came up to me and asked if I had my parents permission to smoke. I: Ehhm...??? My parents permission? She: As I am sure you know our school does not allow kids to smoke unless they have their parents written permission, so unless you do I suggest you put that out!I: Our school??She: Don't pretend that you don't know! What class are you in?I: Not quite sure what you mean...but I am taking history of filosofy this term.She: Oh... I am sorry...I thought you were one of the kids from the high school where I work. We are doing a field trip to the university today.Like I said....I guess I look young...I used to find it annoying, but these days I kind of take it as a compliment if I am asked to show ID when I am buying a bottle of wine... (being asked to show ID to buy tobacco still annoys me though...).love/Reb>> I remember in Spain when I lived there (it has changed since) there was no> drinking age, I used to see little kids 3-4-5 years old sitting in> restaurants drinking out of huge mugs of beer at lunch...it was common. Yet> you NEVER saw anyone drunk...ever! I think by allowing it they somehow> de-mystified it, it wasn't forbidden so it wasn't a big deal. Now I believe> they have created it and made it 18 (which I think is more reasonable then> 21, at 18 I think kids today are "adult" enough, but that's just me). > > > > >   > ~*~Hugs~*~

> ~*~Akiba~*~

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> -- the real update

> > > MS-wise: has not been having any noticeable flare-up. It's pretty much> business as usual on that front. Although she did have a cold a couple of> weeks ago, and that made me think of that she cough quite a lot, even after> the cold is gone I mean. Not as much as she does when she is having a cold,> naturally, but you get my point I am sure. And that made me wonder if> coughing could ever be MS-related. Anyone who knows about that?

> > > In other health news...: Well we have, as I mentioned, been having a bit of> a cold both of us, but this time was actually the one who got it worse> (it's usually the other way around). Gone now, anyway. > > > And: I have finally tried capsules with lactase enzyme (to help with lactose> intolerance). And they work! They really work! Having a tummy that's is> absolutely calm and making no fuss whatsoever is such a luxury! I had almost> forgot what it's like. I have of course, since I became aware of my lactose> intolerance, tried to eat lactose free, but it's not as easy as it may sound> especially if you eat out, or eat ready made stuff, or, basically, eat> anything you didn't grow yourself and make from scratch: Lactose is added> to many things/food products as an additive, even in things that are milk> free. And apart from the calm tummy thing (the difference is almost hard to> believe!), it's a true joy to be able to eat and drink all those delicious> things I have had to avoid. Had a milkshake with my hamburger & nbs p;last> weekend, for instance. My favorite meal as a kid... Still great!... And> today I intend to let my lunch consist of ONLY bread with loads of soft whey> butter or brunost (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brunost ). Another old time> favorite I have not had for years. > > > I can't understand why it took me so long to actually ask for those capsules> I've been meaning to for at least a couple of years...

> > > Not health related: We have been busy with visits, and d inners with friends> etc. Will be this weekend and next too. But after that we'll hopefully have> at least a couple of nice "stay at home with only us"-weekends. Socializing> is fun, but it can get too much.

> > > That was about all I think...

> > > Or, well, lets close with a Pixie story. About that word of hers, for her> favorite meal, french fries: "Prips". It just so happens that "Pripps"> (spelled with two "s", but pronounced just like Pixie's "prips"), is a> Swedish beer brand. Not one I drink a lot of, because I usually prefer a> dark Ale. But, on a hot summer day, with a bit of lemon or lime, they can be> nice, kind of like that Mexican beer, Corona. But... Anyway... This past> summer I was with Pixie on the beach one day, just her and me, because the> others were cleaning. Hungry and tired after a couple of hours I tried to> make her to break for lunch and come with me to the beach restaurant, and> she kept saying "Yes! I want lunch! But first I'll just...". Finally, when> she said she "just" wanted to get some water for her sand castle, or what> ever it was, I figured I'll have to "bribe" her, and I called after her: > > > "Listen! If you come with me now, I'll buy you your favorite Prips!" > > > Now, did that make heads turn on the beach... What they heard was of course> a 2-year old being offered her "favorite beer "... Had to hasten to add that> "and by that I meant the potato prips, served with sausages and hamburgers".> .

> > > love

> /Reb>

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I was carded as late as 35, which is lovely. Where I shop now for groceries, I get carded every time but that is only because they have to input my birth year into their system to sell it, not based on looks.

As far as drinking age, I think if they are going to make the drinking age 21 they should make the military age 21 as well, it just does not make sense to me that a young wo/man can go to war and not be able to have a beer!

  ~*~Hugs~*~

~*~Akiba~*~

Pragmatic Visionary

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-- the real update > > > MS-wise: has not been having any noticeable flare-up. It's pretty much> business as usual on that front. Although she did have a cold a couple of> weeks ago, and that made me think of that she cough quite a lot, even after> the cold is gone I mean. Not as much as she does when she is having a cold,> naturally, but you get my point I am sure. And that made me wonder if> coughing could ever be MS-related. Anyone who knows about that? > > > In other health news...: Well we have, as I mentioned, been having a bit of> a cold both of us, but this time was actually the one who got it worse> (it's usually the other way around). Gone now, anyway. > > > And: I have finally tried capsules with lactase enzyme (to help with lactose> intolerance). And they work! They really work! Having a tummy that's is> absolutely calm and making no fuss whatsoever is such a luxury! I had almost> forgot what it's like. I have of course, since I became aware of my lactose> intolerance, tried to eat lactose free, but it's not as easy as it may sound> especially if you eat out, or eat ready made stuff, or, basically, eat> anything you didn't grow yourself and make from scratch: Lactose is added> to many things/food products as an additive, even in things that are milk> free. And apart from the calm tummy thing (the difference is almost hard to> believe!), it's a true joy to be able to eat and drink all those delicious> things I have had to avoid. Had a milkshake with my hamburger & nbs p;last> weekend, for instance. My favorite meal as a kid.. Still great!... And> today I intend to let my lunch consist of ONLY bread with loads of soft whey> butter or brunost (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brunost ). Another old time> favorite I have not had for years. > > > I can't understand why it took me so long to actually ask for those capsules> I've been meaning to for at least a couple of years... > > > Not health related: We have been busy with visits, and d inners with friends> etc. Will be this weekend and next too. But after that we'll hopefully have> at least a couple of nice "stay at home with only us"-weekends. Socializing> is fun, but it can get too much. > > > That was about all I think... > > > Or, well, lets close with a Pixie story. About that word of hers, for her> favorite meal, french fries: "Prips". It just so happens that "Pripps"> (spelled with two "s", but pronounced just like Pixie's "prips"), is a> Swedish beer brand. Not one I drink a lot of, because I usually prefer a> dark Ale. But, on a hot summer day, with a bit of lemon or lime, they can be> nice, kind of like that Mexican beer, Corona. But... Anyway... This past> summer I was with Pixie on the beach one day, just her and me, because the> others were cleaning. Hungry and tired after a couple of hours I tried to> make her to break for lunch and come with me to the beach restaurant, and> she kept saying "Yes! I want lunch! But first I'll just...". Finally, when> she said she "just" wanted to get some water for her sand castle, or what> ever it was, I figured I'll have to "bribe" her, and I called after her: > > > "Listen! If you come with me now, I'll buy you your favorite Prips!" > > > Now, did that make heads turn on the beach... What they heard was of course> a 2-year old being offered her "favorite beer "... Had to hasten to add that> "and by that I meant the potato prips, served with sausages and hamburgers".> . > > > love > /Reb>

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LOL - that has been the argument here since the 60's

when I was in hs )I graduated at 17( - so that summer I turned my class ring around and drove Dad's car with a senior NCO sticker to the liquor store and got what I needed - cherry vodka and 7 up - lordy what crap to drink

God, grant me the strength of eagles wings, the faith and courage to fly to new heights, and the wisdom to rely on his spirit to carry me there.

To: MSersLife Sent: Sat, February 19, 2011 1:22:56 PMSubject: Re: age limits, looking young etc.

I was carded as late as 35, which is lovely. Where I shop now for groceries, I get carded every time but that is only because they have to input my birth year into their system to sell it, not based on looks.

As far as drinking age, I think if they are going to make the drinking age 21 they should make the military age 21 as well, it just does not make sense to me that a young wo/man can go to war and not be able to have a beer!

  ~*~Hugs~*~

~*~Akiba~*~

Pragmatic Visionary

http://www.affiliates-natural-salt-lamps.com/pages/156.php

-- the real update > > > MS-wise: has not been having any noticeable flare-up. It's pretty much> business as usual on that front. Although she did have a cold a couple of> weeks ago, and that made me think of that she cough quite a lot, even after> the cold is gone I mean. Not as much as she does when she is having a cold,> naturally, but you get my point I am sure. And that made me wonder if> coughing could ever be MS-related. Anyone who knows about that? > > > In other health news...: Well we have, as I mentioned, been having a bit of> a cold both of us, but this time was actually the one who got it worse> (it's usually the other way around). Gone now, anyway. > > > And: I have finally tried capsules with lactase

enzyme (to help with lactose> intolerance). And they work! They really work! Having a tummy that's is> absolutely calm and making no fuss whatsoever is such a luxury! I had almost> forgot what it's like. I have of course, since I became aware of my lactose> intolerance, tried to eat lactose free, but it's not as easy as it may sound> especially if you eat out, or eat ready made stuff, or, basically, eat> anything you didn't grow yourself and make from scratch: Lactose is added> to many things/food products as an additive, even in things that are milk> free. And apart from the calm tummy thing (the difference is almost hard to> believe!), it's a true joy to be able to eat and drink all those delicious> things I have had to avoid. Had a milkshake with my hamburger & nbs p;last> weekend, for instance. My favorite meal as a kid.. Still great!... And> today I intend to let

my lunch consist of ONLY bread with loads of soft whey> butter or brunost (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brunost ). Another old time> favorite I have not had for years. > > > I can't understand why it took me so long to actually ask for those capsules> I've been meaning to for at least a couple of years... > > > Not health related: We have been busy with visits, and d inners with friends> etc. Will be this weekend and next too. But after that we'll hopefully have> at least a couple of nice "stay at home with only us"-weekends. Socializing> is fun, but it can get too much. > > > That was about all I think... > > > Or, well, lets close with a Pixie story. About that word of hers, for her> favorite meal, french fries: "Prips". It just so happens that "Pripps"> (spelled with two "s", but pronounced just like Pixie's

"prips"), is a> Swedish beer brand. Not one I drink a lot of, because I usually prefer a> dark Ale. But, on a hot summer day, with a bit of lemon or lime, they can be> nice, kind of like that Mexican beer, Corona. But... Anyway... This past> summer I was with Pixie on the beach one day, just her and me, because the> others were cleaning. Hungry and tired after a couple of hours I tried to> make her to break for lunch and come with me to the beach restaurant, and> she kept saying "Yes! I want lunch! But first I'll just...". Finally, when> she said she "just" wanted to get some water for her sand castle, or what> ever it was, I figured I'll have to "bribe" her, and I called after her: > > > "Listen! If you come with me now, I'll buy you your favorite Prips!" > > > Now, did that make heads turn on the beach... What they heard was of course> a

2-year old being offered her "favorite beer "... Had to hasten to add that> "and by that I meant the potato prips, served with sausages and hamburgers".> . > > > love > /Reb>

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Cherry vodka and 7-up? *slew* ugh! Anne! How could you drink that! Sounds deathly sweet!

  ~*~Hugs~*~

~*~Akiba~*~

Pragmatic Visionary

http://www.affiliates-natural-salt-lamps.com/pages/156.php

-- the real update > > > MS-wise: has not been having any noticeable flare-up. It's pretty much> business as usual on that front. Although she did have a cold a couple of> weeks ago, and that made me think of that she cough quite a lot, even after> the cold is gone I mean. Not as much as she does when she is having a cold,> naturally, but you get my point I am sure. And that made me wonder if> coughing could ever be MS-related. Anyone who knows about that? > > > In other health news...: Well we have, as I mentioned, been having a bit of> a cold both of us, but this time was actually the one who got it worse> (it's usually the other way around). Gone now, anyway. > > > And: I have finally tried capsules with lactase enzyme (to help with lactose> intolerance). And they work! They really work! Having a tummy that's is> absolutely calm and making no fuss whatsoever is such a luxury! I had almost> forgot what it's like. I have of course, since I became aware of my lactose> intolerance, tried to eat lactose free, but it's not as easy as it may sound> especially if you eat out, or eat ready made stuff, or, basically, eat> anything you didn't grow yourself and make from scratch: Lactose is added> to many things/food products as an additive, even in things that are milk> free. And apart from the calm tummy thing (the difference is almost hard to> believe!), it's a true joy to be able to eat and drink all those delicious> things I have had to avoid. Had a milkshake with my hamburger & nbs p;last> weekend, for instance. My favorite meal as a kid.. Still great!... And> today I intend to let my lunch consist of ONLY bread with loads of soft whey> butter or brunost (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brunost ). Another old time> favorite I have not had for years. > > > I can't understand why it took me so long to actually ask for those capsules> I've been meaning to for at least a couple of years... > > > Not health related: We have been busy with visits, and d inners with friends> etc. Will be this weekend and next too. But after that we'll hopefully have> at least a couple of nice "stay at home with only us"-weekends. Socializing> is fun, but it can get too much. > > > That was about all I think... > > > Or, well, lets close with a Pixie story. About that word of hers, for her> favorite meal, french fries: "Prips". It just so happens that "Pripps"> (spelled with two "s", but pronounced just like Pixie's "prips"), is a> Swedish beer brand. Not one I drink a lot of, because I usually prefer a> dark Ale. But, on a hot summer day, with a bit of lemon or lime, they can be> nice, kind of like that Mexican beer, Corona. But... Anyway... This past> summer I was with Pixie on the beach one day, just her and me, because the> others were cleaning. Hungry and tired after a couple of hours I tried to> make her to break for lunch and come with me to the beach restaurant, and> she kept saying "Yes! I want lunch! But first I'll just...". Finally, when> she said she "just" wanted to get some water for her sand castle, or what> ever it was, I figured I'll have to "bribe" her, and I called after her: > > > "Listen! If you come with me now, I'll buy you your favorite Prips!" > > > Now, did that make heads turn on the beach... What they heard was of course> a 2-year old being offered her "favorite beer "... Had to hasten to add that> "and by that I meant the potato prips, served with sausages and hamburgers".> . > > > love > /Reb>

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it was better than the rum and Dr peppar - coke and [pepsi make me burp - embarassing in hs when my date had to burp me

and way better than mateus the army insists on drinking

with the dx of MS my wine is out - actually 2 years before the dxGod, grant me the strength of eagles wings, the faith and courage to fly to new heights, and the wisdom to rely on his spirit to carry me there.

To: MSersLife Sent: Sat, February 19, 2011 1:47:19 PMSubject: Re: age limits, looking young etc.

Cherry vodka and 7-up? *slew* ugh! Anne! How could you drink that! Sounds deathly sweet!

  ~*~Hugs~*~

~*~Akiba~*~

Pragmatic Visionary

http://www.affiliates-natural-salt-lamps.com/pages/156.php

-- the real update > > > MS-wise: has not been having any noticeable flare-up. It's pretty much> business as usual on that front. Although she did have a cold a couple of> weeks ago, and that made me think of that she cough quite a lot, even after> the cold is gone I mean. Not as much as she does when she is having a cold,> naturally, but you get my point I am sure. And that made me wonder if> coughing could ever be MS-related. Anyone who knows about that? > > > In other health news...: Well we have, as I mentioned, been having a bit of> a cold both of us, but this time was actually the one who got it worse> (it's usually the other way around). Gone now, anyway. > > > And: I have finally tried capsules with lactase

enzyme (to help with lactose> intolerance). And they work! They really work! Having a tummy that's is> absolutely calm and making no fuss whatsoever is such a luxury! I had almost> forgot what it's like. I have of course, since I became aware of my lactose> intolerance, tried to eat lactose free, but it's not as easy as it may sound> especially if you eat out, or eat ready made stuff, or, basically, eat> anything you didn't grow yourself and make from scratch: Lactose is added> to many things/food products as an additive, even in things that are milk> free. And apart from the calm tummy thing (the difference is almost hard to> believe!), it's a true joy to be able to eat and drink all those delicious> things I have had to avoid. Had a milkshake with my hamburger & nbs p;last> weekend, for instance. My favorite meal as a kid.. Still great!... And> today I intend to let

my lunch consist of ONLY bread with loads of soft whey> butter or brunost (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brunost ). Another old time> favorite I have not had for years. > > > I can't understand why it took me so long to actually ask for those capsules> I've been meaning to for at least a couple of years... > > > Not health related: We have been busy with visits, and d inners with friends> etc. Will be this weekend and next too. But after that we'll hopefully have> at least a couple of nice "stay at home with only us"-weekends. Socializing> is fun, but it can get too much. > > > That was about all I think... > > > Or, well, lets close with a Pixie story. About that word of hers, for her> favorite meal, french fries: "Prips". It just so happens that "Pripps"> (spelled with two "s", but pronounced just like Pixie's

"prips"), is a> Swedish beer brand. Not one I drink a lot of, because I usually prefer a> dark Ale. But, on a hot summer day, with a bit of lemon or lime, they can be> nice, kind of like that Mexican beer, Corona. But... Anyway... This past> summer I was with Pixie on the beach one day, just her and me, because the> others were cleaning. Hungry and tired after a couple of hours I tried to> make her to break for lunch and come with me to the beach restaurant, and> she kept saying "Yes! I want lunch! But first I'll just...". Finally, when> she said she "just" wanted to get some water for her sand castle, or what> ever it was, I figured I'll have to "bribe" her, and I called after her: > > > "Listen! If you come with me now, I'll buy you your favorite Prips!" > > > Now, did that make heads turn on the beach... What they heard was of course> a

2-year old being offered her "favorite beer "... Had to hasten to add that> "and by that I meant the potato prips, served with sausages and hamburgers".> . > > > love > /Reb>