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Hi everyone. I want to thank those of you who have been praying for my dad, and sending me encouraging notes. (n, nne, Sharon, Nukhet, Akiba, Jackie,Reb...and whomever else I'm forgetting--I apologize). The latest and the greatest is that they are considering hospice go in. My family is up in arms however regarding this, saying that they don't necessarily think he's at death's door, and do folks just 'give up', i.e. the nursing home staff, when they hear someone's on hospice? My sister, who used to be comptroller in a skilled nursing home states that one can be on hospice for a temporary time, and if/when someone might need it again down the road, it can be ordered again. Medicare picks it up. I think family is leery, as my mom began

hospice and it seemed that not too terribly long into it, she passed. So, there's fear there. His O2 levels are up, his fever is down but his cough and breathing are not good. My daughter, Kara (22) lives near my dad, and is off from work this Thursday. So, Lloyd and I, along with 3 of the kids (Lia can't come cause she is in Boston at school)--will drive down to Philly for the day, to go and visit with dad and with Kara. I just hope he's up for a visit. He usually nods off I'm told, and can get overwhelmed with a lot of people. I think we'll all go up, then if it's too much for him, just go in groups of 2 or 3 at a time.My trip to Boston with my daughter was fun. She had 4 hockey games; 2 of which she played in. She tied one, and lost the other. As she is a goalie, she and the other goalie take turns playing, or sometimes they'll split a game. I'm still a bit tired from a 3 and a half hour drive (each way) up there and back. I just wanted

to catch folks up a bit on my trip and my dad.Thanks again for all the well wishes.love to you all,Kate

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hospice has changed their guidelines since they started - it is not six months or less - it is about quality of life - they will be glad to talk to you and give you information - there is no obligation - look into it - we had hospice in nursing home care both when I was social service and when I was an advocate before that

I think we talked about MS ers getting help too - still fussy headed God, grant me the strength of eagles wings, the faith and courage to fly to new heights, and the wisdom to rely on his spirit to carry me there.

To: MSersLife Sent: Mon, February 21, 2011 12:56:39 PMSubject: back from MA/update on dad

Hi everyone. I want to thank those of you who have been praying for my dad, and sending me encouraging notes. (n, nne, Sharon, Nukhet, Akiba, Jackie,Reb...and whomever else I'm forgetting--I apologize). The latest and the greatest is that they are considering hospice go in. My family is up in arms however regarding this, saying that they don't necessarily think he's at death's door, and do folks just 'give up', i.e. the nursing home staff, when they hear someone's on hospice? My sister, who used to be comptroller in a skilled nursing home states that one can be on hospice for a temporary time, and if/when someone might need it again down the road, it can be ordered again. Medicare picks it up. I think family is leery, as my mom began hospice and it seemed that not too terribly long into it, she passed. So, there's fear there. His O2 levels are up, his fever is down but his cough and breathing are not

good. My daughter, Kara (22) lives near my dad, and is off from work this Thursday. So, Lloyd and I, along with 3 of the kids (Lia can't come cause she is in Boston at school)--will drive down to Philly for the day, to go and visit with dad and with Kara. I just hope he's up for a visit. He usually nods off I'm told, and can get overwhelmed with a lot of people. I think we'll all go up, then if it's too much for him, just go in groups of 2 or 3 at a time.My trip to Boston with my daughter was fun. She had 4 hockey games; 2 of which she played in. She tied one, and lost the other. As she is a goalie, she and the other goalie take turns playing, or sometimes they'll split a game. I'm still a bit tired from a 3 and a half hour drive (each way) up there and back. I just wanted to catch folks up a bit on my trip and my dad.Thanks again for all the well wishes.love to you

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Boy, you're just chewing up the east coast roads, aren't you? Maybe some time keep going, all the way to central Fl?

Hospice won't kill your dad, it might help him, but like Anne said, I'd look into it more before deciding.

Prayers for you and your family no matter what the decision is.

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-- back from MA/update on dad

Hi everyone. I want to thank those of you who have been praying for my dad, and sending me encouraging notes. (n, nne, Sharon, Nukhet, Akiba, Jackie,Reb...and whomever else I'm forgetting--I apologize). The latest and the greatest is that they are considering hospice go in. My family is up in arms however regarding this, saying that they don't necessarily think he's at death's door, and do folks just 'give up', i.e. the nursing home staff, when they hear someone's on hospice? My sister, who used to be comptroller in a skilled nursing home states that one can be on hospice for a temporary time, and if/when someone might need it again down the road, it can be ordered again. Medicare picks it up. I think family is leery, as my mom began hospice and it seemed that not too terribly long into it, she passed. So, there's fear there. His O2 levels are up, his fever is down but his cough and breathing are not good. My daughter, Kara (22) lives near my dad, and is off from work this Thursday. So, Lloyd and I, along with 3 of the kids (Lia can't come cause she is in Boston at school)--will drive down to Philly for the day, to go and visit with dad and with Kara. I just hope he's up for a visit. He usually nods off I'm told, and can get overwhelmed with a lot of people. I think we'll all go up, then if it's too much for him, just go in groups of 2 or 3 at a time.My trip to Boston with my daughter was fun. She had 4 hockey games; 2 of which she played in. She tied one, and lost the other. As she is a goalie, she and the other goalie take turns playing, or sometimes they'll split a game. I'm still a bit tired from a 3 and a half hour drive (each way) up there and back. I just wanted to catch folks up a bit on my trip and my dad.Thanks again for all the well wishes.love to you all,Kate

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Thats great Anne! Quality of life is very important for these people. Hospice is

a Godsend for sure.

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> back from MA/update on dad

>

>

> Hi everyone. I want to thank those of you who have been praying for my

> dad, and

> sending me encouraging notes. (n, nne, Sharon, Nukhet, Akiba,

> Jackie,Reb...and whomever else I'm forgetting--I apologize). The latest

> and the

> greatest is that they are considering hospice go in. My family is up in

> arms

> however regarding this, saying that they don't necessarily think he's at

> death's

> door, and do folks just 'give up', i.e. the nursing home staff, when they

> hear

> someone's on hospice? My sister, who used to be comptroller in a skilled

> nursing

> home states that one can be on hospice for a temporary time, and if/when

> someone

> might need it again down the road, it can be ordered again. Medicare

> picks it

> up. I  think family is leery, as my mom began hospice and it seemed that

> not too

> terribly long into it, she passed. So, there's fear there. His O2 levels

> are up,

> his fever is down but his cough and breathing are not good.

>

> My daughter, Kara (22) lives near my dad, and is off from work this

> Thursday.

> So, Lloyd and I, along with 3 of the kids (Lia can't come cause she is in

> Boston

> at school)--will drive down to Philly for the day, to go and visit with

> dad and

> with Kara. I just hope he's up for a visit. He usually nods off I'm told,

> and

> can get overwhelmed with a lot of people. I think we'll all go up, then

> if it's

> too much for him, just go in groups of 2 or 3 at a time.

> My trip to Boston with my daughter was fun. She had 4 hockey games; 2 of

> which

> she played in. She tied one, and lost the other. As she is a goalie, she

> and the

> other goalie take turns playing, or sometimes they'll split a game.

>

> I'm still a bit tired from a 3 and a half hour drive (each way) up there

> and

> back. I just wanted to catch folks up a bit on my trip and my dad.

> Thanks again for all the well wishes.

> love to you all,

> Kate

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Yup, I'm ALL over the place, Akiba. In about 3 weeks I head up to Lake Placid, which is clear near up to Canada! Not looking forward to that trip. Should take about 6 hours and it is also an expensive tournament; over $800, not to mention gas and tolls!My brother just a little while ago, signed on to the hospice arrangement. He'll have a nurse come in 2 to 3 times a week, and a nurses aide 1 hr a day. There might be PT as well; not sure on that point. Everyone, i.e. the 6 kids in my family are having varied opinions and projections about dad. My brother Larry and I are feeling a bit pessimistic about dad. He has been the one that is in touch with the nursing home, more than I think my older sister. She and Larry definitely have a difference of opinion. Pat doesn't think he is that bad off, Larry does,

and believes the nursing home concurs. I don't know...All I know is that I will be interested seeing him on Thursday when I go down with Lloyd and the kids. Hopefully, he'll be up for a visit; won't be too confused or overwhelmed. I understand he has a tendency to nod off as well. As my mom always said--we shall see what we shall see!love to all,KateTo: MSersLife Sent: Mon, February 21, 2011 4:02:04 PMSubject: Re: back from MA/update on dad

Boy, you're just chewing up the east coast roads, aren't you? Maybe some time keep going, all the way to central Fl?

Hospice won't kill your dad, it might help him, but like Anne said, I'd look into it more before deciding.

Prayers for you and your family no matter what the decision is.

  ~*~Hugs~*~

~*~Akiba~*~

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-- back from MA/update on dad

Hi everyone. I want to thank those of you who have been praying for my dad, and sending me encouraging notes. (n, nne, Sharon, Nukhet, Akiba, Jackie,Reb...and whomever else I'm forgetting--I apologize). The latest and the greatest is that they are considering hospice go in. My family is up in arms however regarding this, saying that they don't necessarily think he's at death's door, and do folks just 'give up', i.e. the nursing home staff, when they hear someone's on hospice? My sister, who used to be comptroller in a skilled nursing home states that one can be on hospice for a temporary time, and if/when someone might need it again down the road, it can be ordered again. Medicare picks it up. I think family is leery, as my mom began hospice and it seemed that not too terribly long into it, she passed. So, there's fear there. His O2 levels are up, his fever is down but his cough and breathing are not

good. My daughter, Kara (22) lives near my dad, and is off from work this Thursday. So, Lloyd and I, along with 3 of the kids (Lia can't come cause she is in Boston at school)--will drive down to Philly for the day, to go and visit with dad and with Kara. I just hope he's up for a visit. He usually nods off I'm told, and can get overwhelmed with a lot of people. I think we'll all go up, then if it's too much for him, just go in groups of 2 or 3 at a time.My trip to Boston with my daughter was fun. She had 4 hockey games; 2 of which she played in. She tied one, and lost the other. As she is a goalie, she and the other goalie take turns playing, or sometimes they'll split a game. I'm still a bit tired from a 3 and a half hour drive (each way) up there and back. I just wanted to catch folks up a bit on my trip and my dad.Thanks again for all the well wishes.love to you all,Kate

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I hope you and the family can come to a united decision on your dad and hospice. I'm glad you will get to go see him and Kara soon. Let me know how the visit goes!love SharonThis email is a natural hand made product. The slight variations in spelling and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in no way are to be considered flaws or defects. To: MSersLife Sent: Mon, February 21, 2011 11:56:39 AMSubject: back from MA/update on dad

Hi everyone. I want to thank those of you who have been praying for my dad, and sending me encouraging notes. (n, nne, Sharon, Nukhet, Akiba, Jackie,Reb...and whomever else I'm forgetting--I apologize). The latest and the greatest is that they are considering hospice go in. My family is up in arms however regarding this, saying that they don't necessarily think he's at death's door, and do folks just 'give up', i.e. the nursing home staff, when they hear someone's on hospice? My sister, who used to be comptroller in a skilled nursing home states that one can be on hospice for a temporary time, and if/when someone might need it again down the road, it can be ordered again. Medicare picks it up. I think family is leery, as my mom began

hospice and it seemed that not too terribly long into it, she passed. So, there's fear there. His O2 levels are up, his fever is down but his cough and breathing are not good. My daughter, Kara (22) lives near my dad, and is off from work this Thursday. So, Lloyd and I, along with 3 of the kids (Lia can't come cause she is in Boston at school)--will drive down to Philly for the day, to go and visit with dad and with Kara. I just hope he's up for a visit. He usually nods off I'm told, and can get overwhelmed with a lot of people. I think we'll all go up, then if it's too much for him, just go in groups of 2 or 3 at a time.My trip to Boston with my daughter was fun. She had 4 hockey games; 2 of which she played in. She tied one, and lost the other. As she is a goalie, she and the other goalie take turns playing, or sometimes they'll split a game. I'm still a bit tired from a 3 and a half hour drive (each way) up there and back. I just wanted

to catch folks up a bit on my trip and my dad.Thanks again for all the well wishes.love to you all,Kate

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Sending you hugs and prayers, Kate, for you and your entire family. SharonThis email is a natural hand made product. The slight variations in spelling and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in no way are to be considered flaws or defects. To: MSersLife Sent: Mon, February 21, 2011 4:38:59 PMSubject: Re: back from MA/update on dad

Yup, I'm ALL over the place, Akiba. In about 3 weeks I head up to Lake Placid, which is clear near up to Canada! Not looking forward to that trip. Should take about 6 hours and it is also an expensive tournament; over $800, not to mention gas and tolls!My brother just a little while ago, signed on to the hospice arrangement. He'll have a nurse come in 2 to 3 times a week, and a nurses aide 1 hr a day. There might be PT as well; not sure on that point. Everyone, i.e. the 6 kids in my family are having varied opinions and projections about dad. My brother Larry and I are feeling a bit pessimistic about dad. He has been the one that is in touch with the nursing home, more than I think my older sister. She and Larry definitely have a difference of opinion. Pat doesn't think he is that bad off, Larry does,

and believes the nursing home concurs. I don't know...All I know is that I will be interested seeing him on Thursday when I go down with Lloyd and the kids. Hopefully, he'll be up for a visit; won't be too confused or overwhelmed. I understand he has a tendency to nod off as well. As my mom always said--we shall see what we shall see!love to all,KateTo: MSersLife Sent: Mon, February 21, 2011 4:02:04 PMSubject: Re: back from MA/update on dad

Boy, you're just chewing up the east coast roads, aren't you? Maybe some time keep going, all the way to central Fl?

Hospice won't kill your dad, it might help him, but like Anne said, I'd look into it more before deciding.

Prayers for you and your family no matter what the decision is.

  ~*~Hugs~*~

~*~Akiba~*~

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-- back from MA/update on dad

Hi everyone. I want to thank those of you who have been praying for my dad, and sending me encouraging notes. (n, nne, Sharon, Nukhet, Akiba, Jackie,Reb...and whomever else I'm forgetting--I apologize). The latest and the greatest is that they are considering hospice go in. My family is up in arms however regarding this, saying that they don't necessarily think he's at death's door, and do folks just 'give up', i.e. the nursing home staff, when they hear someone's on hospice? My sister, who used to be comptroller in a skilled nursing home states that one can be on hospice for a temporary time, and if/when someone might need it again down the road, it can be ordered again. Medicare picks it up. I think family is leery, as my mom began hospice and it seemed that not too terribly long into it, she passed. So, there's fear there. His O2 levels are up, his fever is down but his cough and breathing are not

good. My daughter, Kara (22) lives near my dad, and is off from work this Thursday. So, Lloyd and I, along with 3 of the kids (Lia can't come cause she is in Boston at school)--will drive down to Philly for the day, to go and visit with dad and with Kara. I just hope he's up for a visit. He usually nods off I'm told, and can get overwhelmed with a lot of people. I think we'll all go up, then if it's too much for him, just go in groups of 2 or 3 at a time.My trip to Boston with my daughter was fun. She had 4 hockey games; 2 of which she played in. She tied one, and lost the other. As she is a goalie, she and the other goalie take turns playing, or sometimes they'll split a game. I'm still a bit tired from a 3 and a half hour drive (each way) up there and back. I just wanted to catch folks up a bit on my trip and my dad.Thanks again for all the well wishes.love to you all,Kate

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Thank you, Sharon. It means the world to me.I'm going to have someone 'put dad' on our church's prayer chain as well.They used to have a phone chain, and now with technology, it is an emailchain.love,KateTo: MSersLife Sent: Mon, February 21, 2011 7:15:54 PMSubject: Re: back from MA/update on dad

Sending you hugs and prayers, Kate, for you and your entire family. SharonThis email is a natural hand made product. The slight variations in spelling and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in no way are to be considered flaws or defects. To: MSersLife Sent: Mon, February 21, 2011 4:38:59 PMSubject: Re: back from MA/update on dad

Yup, I'm ALL over the place, Akiba. In about 3 weeks I head up to Lake Placid, which is clear near up to Canada! Not looking forward to that trip. Should take about 6 hours and it is also an expensive tournament; over $800, not to mention gas and tolls!My brother just a little while ago, signed on to the hospice arrangement. He'll have a nurse come in 2 to 3 times a week, and a nurses aide 1 hr a day. There might be PT as well; not sure on that point. Everyone, i.e. the 6 kids in my family are having varied opinions and projections about dad. My brother Larry and I are feeling a bit pessimistic about dad. He has been the one that is in touch with the nursing home, more than I think my older sister. She and Larry definitely have a difference of opinion. Pat doesn't think he is that bad off, Larry does,

and believes the nursing home concurs. I don't know...All I know is that I will be interested seeing him on Thursday when I go down with Lloyd and the kids. Hopefully, he'll be up for a visit; won't be too confused or overwhelmed. I understand he has a tendency to nod off as well. As my mom always said--we shall see what we shall see!love to all,KateTo: MSersLife Sent: Mon, February 21, 2011 4:02:04 PMSubject: Re: back from MA/update on dad

Boy, you're just chewing up the east coast roads, aren't you? Maybe some time keep going, all the way to central Fl?

Hospice won't kill your dad, it might help him, but like Anne said, I'd look into it more before deciding.

Prayers for you and your family no matter what the decision is.

  ~*~Hugs~*~

~*~Akiba~*~

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http://www.affiliates-natural-salt-lamps.com/pages/156.php

-- back from MA/update on dad

Hi everyone. I want to thank those of you who have been praying for my dad, and sending me encouraging notes. (n, nne, Sharon, Nukhet, Akiba, Jackie,Reb...and whomever else I'm forgetting--I apologize). The latest and the greatest is that they are considering hospice go in. My family is up in arms however regarding this, saying that they don't necessarily think he's at death's door, and do folks just 'give up', i.e. the nursing home staff, when they hear someone's on hospice? My sister, who used to be comptroller in a skilled nursing home states that one can be on hospice for a temporary time, and if/when someone might need it again down the road, it can be ordered again. Medicare picks it up. I think family is leery, as my mom began hospice and it seemed that not too terribly long into it, she passed. So, there's fear there. His O2 levels are up, his fever is down but his cough and breathing are not

good. My daughter, Kara (22) lives near my dad, and is off from work this Thursday. So, Lloyd and I, along with 3 of the kids (Lia can't come cause she is in Boston at school)--will drive down to Philly for the day, to go and visit with dad and with Kara. I just hope he's up for a visit. He usually nods off I'm told, and can get overwhelmed with a lot of people. I think we'll all go up, then if it's too much for him, just go in groups of 2 or 3 at a time.My trip to Boston with my daughter was fun. She had 4 hockey games; 2 of which she played in. She tied one, and lost the other. As she is a goalie, she and the other goalie take turns playing, or sometimes they'll split a game. I'm still a bit tired from a 3 and a half hour drive (each way) up there and back. I just wanted to catch folks up a bit on my trip and my dad.Thanks again for all the well wishes.love to you all,Kate

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My brother Larry went ahead with the decision...sorry if I have stated this already. I'm beginning to feel overwhelmed by everything.Thanks, Sharon.I'm not sure I had written this lately, but Kara is in the midst of applying to grad schools. She doesn't know where she'll be accepted, but she wants very much to go to Naropa University in Boulder, CO. She is studying Art Therapy. I am feeling overwhelmed by the fact that if she's out that way (or possibly Minnesota, as that is another choice), we won't be seeing much of her for the next 2 years. Scary. Hard to let go of kids...love you my friend,KateTo: MSersLife Sent: Mon, February 21, 2011 7:07:52 PMSubject: Re: back from MA/update on dad

I hope you and the family can come to a united decision on your dad and hospice. I'm glad you will get to go see him and Kara soon. Let me know how the visit goes!love SharonThis email is a natural hand made product. The slight variations in spelling and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in no way are to be considered flaws or defects. To: MSersLife Sent: Mon, February 21, 2011 11:56:39 AMSubject: back from MA/update on dad

Hi everyone. I want to thank those of you who have been praying for my dad, and sending me encouraging notes. (n, nne, Sharon, Nukhet, Akiba, Jackie,Reb...and whomever else I'm forgetting--I apologize). The latest and the greatest is that they are considering hospice go in. My family is up in arms however regarding this, saying that they don't necessarily think he's at death's door, and do folks just 'give up', i.e. the nursing home staff, when they hear someone's on hospice? My sister, who used to be comptroller in a skilled nursing home states that one can be on hospice for a temporary time, and if/when someone might need it again down the road, it can be ordered again. Medicare picks it up. I think family is leery, as my mom began

hospice and it seemed that not too terribly long into it, she passed. So, there's fear there. His O2 levels are up, his fever is down but his cough and breathing are not good. My daughter, Kara (22) lives near my dad, and is off from work this Thursday. So, Lloyd and I, along with 3 of the kids (Lia can't come cause she is in Boston at school)--will drive down to Philly for the day, to go and visit with dad and with Kara. I just hope he's up for a visit. He usually nods off I'm told, and can get overwhelmed with a lot of people. I think we'll all go up, then if it's too much for him, just go in groups of 2 or 3 at a time.My trip to Boston with my daughter was fun. She had 4 hockey games; 2 of which she played in. She tied one, and lost the other. As she is a goalie, she and the other goalie take turns playing, or sometimes they'll split a game. I'm still a bit tired from a 3 and a half hour drive (each way) up there and back. I just wanted

to catch folks up a bit on my trip and my dad.Thanks again for all the well wishes.love to you all,Kate

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Well good luck with your visit, I hope he is in a good mind space while you're there.

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-- back from MA/update on dad

Hi everyone. I want to thank those of you who have been praying for my dad, and sending me encouraging notes. (n, nne, Sharon, Nukhet, Akiba, Jackie,Reb...and whomever else I'm forgetting--I apologize). The latest and the greatest is that they are considering hospice go in. My family is up in arms however regarding this, saying that they don't necessarily think he's at death's door, and do folks just 'give up', i.e. the nursing home staff, when they hear someone's on hospice? My sister, who used to be comptroller in a skilled nursing home states that one can be on hospice for a temporary time, and if/when someone might need it again down the road, it can be ordered again. Medicare picks it up. I think family is leery, as my mom began hospice and it seemed that not too terribly long into it, she passed. So, there's fear there. His O2 levels are up, his fever is down but his cough and breathing are not good. My daughter, Kara (22) lives near my dad, and is off from work this Thursday. So, Lloyd and I, along with 3 of the kids (Lia can't come cause she is in Boston at school)--will drive down to Philly for the day, to go and visit with dad and with Kara. I just hope he's up for a visit. He usually nods off I'm told, and can get overwhelmed with a lot of people. I think we'll all go up, then if it's too much for him, just go in groups of 2 or 3 at a time.My trip to Boston with my daughter was fun. She had 4 hockey games; 2 of which she played in. She tied one, and lost the other. As she is a goalie, she and the other goalie take turns playing, or sometimes they'll split a game. I'm still a bit tired from a 3 and a half hour drive (each way) up there and back. I just wanted to catch folks up a bit on my trip and my dad.Thanks again for all the well wishes.love to you all,Kate

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You did mention before that Kara is thinking of going away that far. I know how hard that is. When Challis moved to Ft. Drum at Watertown, NY I was so upset. It was such a long way away! She had a one year old (my first grandchild) and I spent a small fortune sending gifts to him. A gramma is supposed to be close! lollove you SharonThis email is a natural hand made product. The slight variations in spelling and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in no way are to be considered flaws or defects. To: MSersLife Sent: Mon, February 21, 2011 6:09:59 PMSubject: Re: back

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My brother Larry went ahead with the decision...sorry if I have stated this already. I'm beginning to feel overwhelmed by everything.Thanks, Sharon.I'm not sure I had written this lately, but Kara is in the midst of applying to grad schools. She doesn't know where she'll be accepted, but she wants very much to go to Naropa University in Boulder, CO. She is studying Art Therapy. I am feeling overwhelmed by the fact that if she's out that way (or possibly Minnesota, as that is another choice), we won't be seeing much of her for the next 2 years. Scary. Hard to let go of kids...love you my friend,KateTo: MSersLife Sent: Mon, February 21, 2011 7:07:52 PMSubject: Re: back from MA/update on dad

I hope you and the family can come to a united decision on your dad and hospice. I'm glad you will get to go see him and Kara soon. Let me know how the visit goes!love SharonThis email is a natural hand made product. The slight variations in spelling and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in no way are to be considered flaws or defects. To: MSersLife Sent: Mon, February 21, 2011 11:56:39 AMSubject: back from MA/update on dad

Hi everyone. I want to thank those of you who have been praying for my dad, and sending me encouraging notes. (n, nne, Sharon, Nukhet, Akiba, Jackie,Reb...and whomever else I'm forgetting--I apologize). The latest and the greatest is that they are considering hospice go in. My family is up in arms however regarding this, saying that they don't necessarily think he's at death's door, and do folks just 'give up', i.e. the nursing home staff, when they hear someone's on hospice? My sister, who used to be comptroller in a skilled nursing home states that one can be on hospice for a temporary time, and if/when someone might need it again down the road, it can be ordered again. Medicare picks it up. I think family is leery, as my mom began

hospice and it seemed that not too terribly long into it, she passed. So, there's fear there. His O2 levels are up, his fever is down but his cough and breathing are not good. My daughter, Kara (22) lives near my dad, and is off from work this Thursday. So, Lloyd and I, along with 3 of the kids (Lia can't come cause she is in Boston at school)--will drive down to Philly for the day, to go and visit with dad and with Kara. I just hope he's up for a visit. He usually nods off I'm told, and can get overwhelmed with a lot of people. I think we'll all go up, then if it's too much for him, just go in groups of 2 or 3 at a time.My trip to Boston with my daughter was fun. She had 4 hockey games; 2 of which she played in. She tied one, and lost the other. As she is a goalie, she and the other goalie take turns playing, or sometimes they'll split a game. I'm still a bit tired from a 3 and a half hour drive (each way) up there and back. I just wanted

to catch folks up a bit on my trip and my dad.Thanks again for all the well wishes.love to you all,Kate

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I have a fond place in my heart for Fort Drum and all of 10th Mountain - both my favorite Chaplains assistant here at Fort Sill was an active duty Marine and my favorite sarge from Afghanistan was 10th Mountain - ooh rah God, grant me the strength of eagles wings, the faith and courage to fly to new heights, and the wisdom to rely on his spirit to carry me there.

To: MSersLife Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 8:20:20 AMSubject: Re: back from MA/update on dad

You did mention before that Kara is thinking of going away that far. I know how hard that is. When Challis moved to Ft. Drum at Watertown, NY I was so upset. It was such a long way away! She had a one year old (my first grandchild) and I spent a small fortune sending gifts to him. A gramma is supposed to be close! lollove you

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To: MSersLife Sent: Mon, February 21, 2011 6:09:59 PMSubject: Re: back from MA/update on dad

My brother Larry went ahead with the decision...sorry if I have stated this already. I'm beginning to feel overwhelmed by everything.Thanks, Sharon.I'm not sure I had written this lately, but Kara is in the midst of applying to grad schools. She doesn't know where she'll be accepted, but she wants very much to go to Naropa University in Boulder, CO. She is studying Art Therapy. I am feeling overwhelmed by the fact that if she's out that way (or possibly Minnesota, as that is another choice), we won't be seeing much of her for the next 2 years. Scary. Hard to let go of kids...love you my friend,Kate

To: MSersLife Sent: Mon, February 21, 2011 7:07:52 PMSubject: Re: back from MA/update on dad

I hope you and the family can come to a united decision on your dad and hospice. I'm glad you will get to go see him and Kara soon. Let me know how the visit goes!love

SharonThis email is a natural hand made product. The slight variations in spelling and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in no way are to be considered flaws or defects.

To: MSersLife Sent: Mon, February 21, 2011 11:56:39 AMSubject: back from MA/update on dad

Hi everyone. I want to thank those of you who have been praying for my dad, and sending me encouraging notes. (n, nne, Sharon, Nukhet, Akiba, Jackie,Reb...and whomever else I'm forgetting--I apologize). The latest and the greatest is that they are considering hospice go in. My family is up in arms however regarding this, saying that they don't necessarily think he's at death's door, and do folks just 'give up', i.e. the nursing home staff, when they hear someone's on hospice? My sister, who used to be comptroller in a skilled nursing home states that one can be on hospice for a temporary time, and if/when someone might need it again down the road, it can be ordered again. Medicare picks it up. I think family is leery, as my mom began hospice and it seemed that not too terribly long into it, she passed. So, there's fear there. His O2 levels are up, his fever is down but his cough and breathing are not

good. My daughter, Kara (22) lives near my dad, and is off from work this Thursday. So, Lloyd and I, along with 3 of the kids (Lia can't come cause she is in Boston at school)--will drive down to Philly for the day, to go and visit with dad and with Kara. I just hope he's up for a visit. He usually nods off I'm told, and can get overwhelmed with a lot of people. I think we'll all go up, then if it's too much for him, just go in groups of 2 or 3 at a time.My trip to Boston with my daughter was fun. She had 4 hockey games; 2 of which she played in. She tied one, and lost the other. As she is a goalie, she and the other goalie take turns playing, or sometimes they'll split a game. I'm still a bit tired from a 3 and a half hour drive (each way) up there and back. I just wanted to catch folks up a bit on my trip and my dad.Thanks again for all the well wishes.love to you all,Kate

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For how long did they live there, Sharon? That must have been so hard on you.Now look! You are surrounded by grandchildren now! lol. As they say, when itrains, it pours! I can't imagine going 2 long years without seeing Kara. I DO solove Boulder; had been there when I was much younger, and fell in love withthe mountains. It's just stunning there. I have to see how expensive it might beto fly out there.love you my friend,KateFrom:

Sharon To: MSersLife Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 9:20:20 AMSubject: Re: back from MA/update on dad

You did mention before that Kara is thinking of going away that far. I know how hard that is. When Challis moved to Ft. Drum at Watertown, NY I was so upset. It was such a long way away! She had a one year old (my first grandchild) and I spent a small fortune sending gifts to him. A gramma is supposed to be close! lollove you SharonThis email is a natural hand made product. The slight variations in spelling and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in no way are to be considered flaws or defects. To: MSersLife Sent: Mon, February 21, 2011 6:09:59 PMSubject: Re: back

from MA/update on dad

My brother Larry went ahead with the decision...sorry if I have stated this already. I'm beginning to feel overwhelmed by everything.Thanks, Sharon.I'm not sure I had written this lately, but Kara is in the midst of applying to grad schools. She doesn't know where she'll be accepted, but she wants very much to go to Naropa University in Boulder, CO. She is studying Art Therapy. I am feeling overwhelmed by the fact that if she's out that way (or possibly Minnesota, as that is another choice), we won't be seeing much of her for the next 2 years. Scary. Hard to let go of kids...love you my friend,KateTo: MSersLife Sent: Mon, February 21, 2011 7:07:52 PMSubject: Re: back from MA/update on dad

I hope you and the family can come to a united decision on your dad and hospice. I'm glad you will get to go see him and Kara soon. Let me know how the visit goes!love SharonThis email is a natural hand made product. The slight variations in spelling and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in no way are to be considered flaws or defects. To: MSersLife Sent: Mon, February 21, 2011 11:56:39 AMSubject: back from MA/update on dad

Hi everyone. I want to thank those of you who have been praying for my dad, and sending me encouraging notes. (n, nne, Sharon, Nukhet, Akiba, Jackie,Reb...and whomever else I'm forgetting--I apologize). The latest and the greatest is that they are considering hospice go in. My family is up in arms however regarding this, saying that they don't necessarily think he's at death's door, and do folks just 'give up', i.e. the nursing home staff, when they hear someone's on hospice? My sister, who used to be comptroller in a skilled nursing home states that one can be on hospice for a temporary time, and if/when someone might need it again down the road, it can be ordered again. Medicare picks it up. I think family is leery, as my mom began

hospice and it seemed that not too terribly long into it, she passed. So, there's fear there. His O2 levels are up, his fever is down but his cough and breathing are not good. My daughter, Kara (22) lives near my dad, and is off from work this Thursday. So, Lloyd and I, along with 3 of the kids (Lia can't come cause she is in Boston at school)--will drive down to Philly for the day, to go and visit with dad and with Kara. I just hope he's up for a visit. He usually nods off I'm told, and can get overwhelmed with a lot of people. I think we'll all go up, then if it's too much for him, just go in groups of 2 or 3 at a time.My trip to Boston with my daughter was fun. She had 4 hockey games; 2 of which she played in. She tied one, and lost the other. As she is a goalie, she and the other goalie take turns playing, or sometimes they'll split a game. I'm still a bit tired from a 3 and a half hour drive (each way) up there and back. I just wanted

to catch folks up a bit on my trip and my dad.Thanks again for all the well wishes.love to you all,Kate

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I went to visit Challis at Ft. Drum and stayed for a month. It was a great experience and I enjoyed the people I met and the community on Ft. Drum! SharonThis email is a natural hand made product. The slight variations in spelling and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in no way are to be considered flaws or defects. To: MSersLife Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 7:31:12 AMSubject: Re: back from MA/update on dad

I have a fond place in my heart for Fort Drum and all of 10th Mountain - both my favorite Chaplains assistant here at Fort Sill was an active duty Marine and my favorite sarge from Afghanistan was 10th Mountain - ooh rah God, grant me the strength of eagles wings, the faith and courage to fly to new heights, and the wisdom to rely on his spirit to carry me there.

To: MSersLife Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 8:20:20 AMSubject: Re: back from MA/update on dad

You did mention before that Kara is thinking of going away that far. I know how hard that is. When Challis moved to Ft. Drum at Watertown, NY I was so upset. It was such a long way away! She had a one year old (my first grandchild) and I spent a small fortune sending gifts to him. A gramma is supposed to be close! lollove you

SharonThis email is a natural hand made product. The slight variations in spelling and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in no way are to be considered flaws or defects.

To: MSersLife Sent: Mon, February 21, 2011 6:09:59 PMSubject: Re: back from MA/update on dad

My brother Larry went ahead with the decision...sorry if I have stated this already. I'm beginning to feel overwhelmed by everything.Thanks, Sharon.I'm not sure I had written this lately, but Kara is in the midst of applying to grad schools. She doesn't know where she'll be accepted, but she wants very much to go to Naropa University in Boulder, CO. She is studying Art Therapy. I am feeling overwhelmed by the fact that if she's out that way (or possibly Minnesota, as that is another choice), we won't be seeing much of her for the next 2 years. Scary. Hard to let go of kids...love you my friend,Kate

To: MSersLife Sent: Mon, February 21, 2011 7:07:52 PMSubject: Re: back from MA/update on dad

I hope you and the family can come to a united decision on your dad and hospice. I'm glad you will get to go see him and Kara soon. Let me know how the visit goes!love

SharonThis email is a natural hand made product. The slight variations in spelling and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in no way are to be considered flaws or defects.

To: MSersLife Sent: Mon, February 21, 2011 11:56:39 AMSubject: back from MA/update on dad

Hi everyone. I want to thank those of you who have been praying for my dad, and sending me encouraging notes. (n, nne, Sharon, Nukhet, Akiba, Jackie,Reb...and whomever else I'm forgetting--I apologize). The latest and the greatest is that they are considering hospice go in. My family is up in arms however regarding this, saying that they don't necessarily think he's at death's door, and do folks just 'give up', i.e. the nursing home staff, when they hear someone's on hospice? My sister, who used to be comptroller in a skilled nursing home states that one can be on hospice for a temporary time, and if/when someone might need it again down the road, it can be ordered again. Medicare picks it up. I think family is leery, as my mom began hospice and it seemed that not too terribly long into it, she passed. So, there's fear there. His O2 levels are up, his fever is down but his cough and breathing are not

good. My daughter, Kara (22) lives near my dad, and is off from work this Thursday. So, Lloyd and I, along with 3 of the kids (Lia can't come cause she is in Boston at school)--will drive down to Philly for the day, to go and visit with dad and with Kara. I just hope he's up for a visit. He usually nods off I'm told, and can get overwhelmed with a lot of people. I think we'll all go up, then if it's too much for him, just go in groups of 2 or 3 at a time.My trip to Boston with my daughter was fun. She had 4 hockey games; 2 of which she played in. She tied one, and lost the other. As she is a goalie, she and the other goalie take turns playing, or sometimes they'll split a game. I'm still a bit tired from a 3 and a half hour drive (each way) up there and back. I just wanted to catch folks up a bit on my trip and my dad.Thanks again for all the well wishes.love to you all,Kate

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Thank you, Akiba. It can be confusing for the kids to see himdisoriented, so I pray you're right.love you my friend,KateTo: MSersLife Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 2:17:18 AMSubject: Re: back from MA/update on dad

Well good luck with your visit, I hope he is in a good mind space while you're there.

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~*~Akiba~*~

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-- back from MA/update on dad

Hi everyone. I want to thank those of you who have been praying for my dad, and sending me encouraging notes. (n, nne, Sharon, Nukhet, Akiba, Jackie,Reb...and whomever else I'm forgetting--I apologize). The latest and the greatest is that they are considering hospice go in. My family is up in arms however regarding this, saying that they don't necessarily think he's at death's door, and do folks just 'give up', i.e. the nursing home staff, when they hear someone's on hospice? My sister, who used to be comptroller in a skilled nursing home states that one can be on hospice for a temporary time, and if/when someone might need it again down the road, it can be ordered again. Medicare picks it up. I think family is leery, as my mom began hospice and it seemed that not too terribly long into it, she passed. So, there's fear there. His O2 levels are up, his fever is down but his cough and breathing are not

good. My daughter, Kara (22) lives near my dad, and is off from work this Thursday. So, Lloyd and I, along with 3 of the kids (Lia can't come cause she is in Boston at school)--will drive down to Philly for the day, to go and visit with dad and with Kara. I just hope he's up for a visit. He usually nods off I'm told, and can get overwhelmed with a lot of people. I think we'll all go up, then if it's too much for him, just go in groups of 2 or 3 at a time.My trip to Boston with my daughter was fun. She had 4 hockey games; 2 of which she played in. She tied one, and lost the other. As she is a goalie, she and the other goalie take turns playing, or sometimes they'll split a game. I'm still a bit tired from a 3 and a half hour drive (each way) up there and back. I just wanted to catch folks up a bit on my trip and my dad.Thanks again for all the well wishes.love to you all,Kate

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They lived in Watertown and then on Ft. Drum for several years. My second grandchild was born in Watertown. I was there for 's birth--nothing would have kept me away! lol If Kara goes to Boulder you will be on the phone with her every day:) Do you both have webcams so you can talk and see each other?hugs SharonThis email is a natural hand made product. The slight variations in spelling and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in no way are to be considered flaws or defects. To: MSersLife Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 7:54:26 AMSubject: Re: back from MA/update on

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For how long did they live there, Sharon? That must have been so hard on you.Now look! You are surrounded by grandchildren now! lol. As they say, when itrains, it pours! I can't imagine going 2 long years without seeing Kara. I DO solove Boulder; had been there when I was much younger, and fell in love withthe mountains. It's just stunning there. I have to see how expensive it might beto fly out there.love you my friend,KateFrom:

Sharon To: MSersLife Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 9:20:20 AMSubject: Re: back from MA/update on dad

You did mention before that Kara is thinking of going away that far. I know how hard that is. When Challis moved to Ft. Drum at Watertown, NY I was so upset. It was such a long way away! She had a one year old (my first grandchild) and I spent a small fortune sending gifts to him. A gramma is supposed to be close! lollove you SharonThis email is a natural hand made product. The slight variations in spelling and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in no way are to be considered flaws or defects. To: MSersLife Sent: Mon, February 21, 2011 6:09:59 PMSubject: Re: back

from MA/update on dad

My brother Larry went ahead with the decision...sorry if I have stated this already. I'm beginning to feel overwhelmed by everything.Thanks, Sharon.I'm not sure I had written this lately, but Kara is in the midst of applying to grad schools. She doesn't know where she'll be accepted, but she wants very much to go to Naropa University in Boulder, CO. She is studying Art Therapy. I am feeling overwhelmed by the fact that if she's out that way (or possibly Minnesota, as that is another choice), we won't be seeing much of her for the next 2 years. Scary. Hard to let go of kids...love you my friend,KateTo: MSersLife Sent: Mon, February 21, 2011 7:07:52 PMSubject: Re: back from MA/update on dad

I hope you and the family can come to a united decision on your dad and hospice. I'm glad you will get to go see him and Kara soon. Let me know how the visit goes!love SharonThis email is a natural hand made product. The slight variations in spelling and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in no way are to be considered flaws or defects. To: MSersLife Sent: Mon, February 21, 2011 11:56:39 AMSubject: back from MA/update on dad

Hi everyone. I want to thank those of you who have been praying for my dad, and sending me encouraging notes. (n, nne, Sharon, Nukhet, Akiba, Jackie,Reb...and whomever else I'm forgetting--I apologize). The latest and the greatest is that they are considering hospice go in. My family is up in arms however regarding this, saying that they don't necessarily think he's at death's door, and do folks just 'give up', i.e. the nursing home staff, when they hear someone's on hospice? My sister, who used to be comptroller in a skilled nursing home states that one can be on hospice for a temporary time, and if/when someone might need it again down the road, it can be ordered again. Medicare picks it up. I think family is leery, as my mom began

hospice and it seemed that not too terribly long into it, she passed. So, there's fear there. His O2 levels are up, his fever is down but his cough and breathing are not good. My daughter, Kara (22) lives near my dad, and is off from work this Thursday. So, Lloyd and I, along with 3 of the kids (Lia can't come cause she is in Boston at school)--will drive down to Philly for the day, to go and visit with dad and with Kara. I just hope he's up for a visit. He usually nods off I'm told, and can get overwhelmed with a lot of people. I think we'll all go up, then if it's too much for him, just go in groups of 2 or 3 at a time.My trip to Boston with my daughter was fun. She had 4 hockey games; 2 of which she played in. She tied one, and lost the other. As she is a goalie, she and the other goalie take turns playing, or sometimes they'll split a game. I'm still a bit tired from a 3 and a half hour drive (each way) up there and back. I just wanted

to catch folks up a bit on my trip and my dad.Thanks again for all the well wishes.love to you all,Kate

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Labor Day of 1971 my ex took us home to St Louis to meet his Mom and then to Indiana to meet his grandmothers and his aunt - he forgot to tell me his aunt had had a brain tumor and it affected her like altzheimers - when she took on with my 4 year old son like it was my ex at that age - I excused myself and said we are going to Grandma - come when you are ready

I never forgave him for the trauma he inflicted on my son

had I known I could have prepared my son for it and it would have gone better God, grant me the strength of eagles wings, the faith and courage to fly to new heights, and the wisdom to rely on his spirit to carry me there.

To: MSersLife Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 8:56:36 AMSubject: Re: back from MA/update on dad

Thank you, Akiba. It can be confusing for the kids to see himdisoriented, so I pray you're right.love you my friend,Kate

To: MSersLife Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 2:17:18 AMSubject: Re: back from MA/update on dad

Well good luck with your visit, I hope he is in a good mind space while you're there.

  ~*~Hugs~*~

~*~Akiba~*~

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http://www.affiliates-natural-salt-lamps.com/pages/156.php

-- back from MA/update on dad

Hi everyone. I want to thank those of you who have been praying for my dad, and sending me encouraging notes. (n, nne, Sharon, Nukhet, Akiba, Jackie,Reb...and whomever else I'm forgetting--I apologize). The latest and the greatest is that they are considering hospice go in. My family is up in arms however regarding this, saying that they don't necessarily think he's at death's door, and do folks just 'give up', i.e. the nursing home staff, when they hear someone's on hospice? My sister, who used to be comptroller in a skilled nursing home states that one can be on hospice for a temporary time, and if/when someone might need it again down the road, it can be ordered again. Medicare picks it up. I think family is leery, as my mom began hospice and it seemed that not too terribly long into it, she passed. So, there's fear there. His O2 levels are up, his fever is down but his cough and breathing are not

good. My daughter, Kara (22) lives near my dad, and is off from work this Thursday. So, Lloyd and I, along with 3 of the kids (Lia can't come cause she is in Boston at school)--will drive down to Philly for the day, to go and visit with dad and with Kara. I just hope he's up for a visit. He usually nods off I'm told, and can get overwhelmed with a lot of people. I think we'll all go up, then if it's too much for him, just go in groups of 2 or 3 at a time.My trip to Boston with my daughter was fun. She had 4 hockey games; 2 of which she played in. She tied one, and lost the other. As she is a goalie, she and the other goalie take turns playing, or sometimes they'll split a game. I'm still a bit tired from a 3 and a half hour drive (each way) up there and back. I just wanted to catch folks up a bit on my trip and my dad.Thanks again for all the well wishes.love to you all,Kate

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That's so true, Anne. If there is preparation for it, it can go much more smoothly. Otherwise, itis confusing and can be devastating. I'm sorry you had to go through that with your son.love,KateTo: MSersLife Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 10:13:24 AMSubject: Re: back from MA/update on dad

Labor Day of 1971 my ex took us home to St Louis to meet his Mom and then to Indiana to meet his grandmothers and his aunt - he forgot to tell me his aunt had had a brain tumor and it affected her like altzheimers - when she took on with my 4 year old son like it was my ex at that age - I excused myself and said we are going to Grandma - come when you are ready

I never forgave him for the trauma he inflicted on my son

had I known I could have prepared my son for it and it would have gone better God, grant me the strength of eagles wings, the faith and courage to fly to new heights, and the wisdom to rely on his spirit to carry me there.

To: MSersLife Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 8:56:36 AMSubject: Re: back from MA/update on dad

Thank you, Akiba. It can be confusing for the kids to see himdisoriented, so I pray you're right.love you my friend,Kate

To: MSersLife Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 2:17:18 AMSubject: Re: back from MA/update on dad

Well good luck with your visit, I hope he is in a good mind space while you're there.

  ~*~Hugs~*~

~*~Akiba~*~

Pragmatic Visionary

http://www.affiliates-natural-salt-lamps.com/pages/156.php

-- back from MA/update on dad

Hi everyone. I want to thank those of you who have been praying for my dad, and sending me encouraging notes. (n, nne, Sharon, Nukhet, Akiba, Jackie,Reb...and whomever else I'm forgetting--I apologize). The latest and the greatest is that they are considering hospice go in. My family is up in arms however regarding this, saying that they don't necessarily think he's at death's door, and do folks just 'give up', i.e. the nursing home staff, when they hear someone's on hospice? My sister, who used to be comptroller in a skilled nursing home states that one can be on hospice for a temporary time, and if/when someone might need it again down the road, it can be ordered again. Medicare picks it up. I think family is leery, as my mom began hospice and it seemed that not too terribly long into it, she passed. So, there's fear there. His O2 levels are up, his fever is down but his cough and breathing are not

good. My daughter, Kara (22) lives near my dad, and is off from work this Thursday. So, Lloyd and I, along with 3 of the kids (Lia can't come cause she is in Boston at school)--will drive down to Philly for the day, to go and visit with dad and with Kara. I just hope he's up for a visit. He usually nods off I'm told, and can get overwhelmed with a lot of people. I think we'll all go up, then if it's too much for him, just go in groups of 2 or 3 at a time.My trip to Boston with my daughter was fun. She had 4 hockey games; 2 of which she played in. She tied one, and lost the other. As she is a goalie, she and the other goalie take turns playing, or sometimes they'll split a game. I'm still a bit tired from a 3 and a half hour drive (each way) up there and back. I just wanted to catch folks up a bit on my trip and my dad.Thanks again for all the well wishes.love to you all,Kate

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I found out when my dad had cancer in 1984 that my two nephews dealt with it better than my sons - they saw him on his good days and his bad days and went to his funerals - my sons stays in MO - I came back and stayed a week or 10 days - my sons - especially the oldest one who was the only one for over 9 years has never come to terms with it

when I was bereavement coordinator at Hospice I had 18 kids under 18 that had a parent or grand parent dying of cancer - I called Lawton Public Schools - I knew one of the whatever 's title was - forget - he passed me on to the right person - I asked what the protocol was for child bereavement - the answer I got left me speechless - well, if the counselor feels comfortable they work with the child - meaning they don't bother

that is why I got certified in child bereavement and adult bereavement God, grant me the strength of eagles wings, the faith and courage to fly to new heights, and the wisdom to rely on his spirit to carry me there.

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That's so true, Anne. If there is preparation for it, it can go much more smoothly. Otherwise, itis confusing and can be devastating. I'm sorry you had to go through that with your son.love,Kate

To: MSersLife Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 10:13:24 AMSubject: Re: back from MA/update on dad

Labor Day of 1971 my ex took us home to St Louis to meet his Mom and then to Indiana to meet his grandmothers and his aunt - he forgot to tell me his aunt had had a brain tumor and it affected her like altzheimers - when she took on with my 4 year old son like it was my ex at that age - I excused myself and said we are going to Grandma - come when you are ready

I never forgave him for the trauma he inflicted on my son

had I known I could have prepared my son for it and it would have gone better God, grant me the strength of eagles wings, the faith and courage to fly to new heights, and the wisdom to rely on his spirit to carry me there.

To: MSersLife Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 8:56:36 AMSubject: Re: back from MA/update on dad

Thank you, Akiba. It can be confusing for the kids to see himdisoriented, so I pray you're right.love you my friend,Kate

To: MSersLife Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 2:17:18 AMSubject: Re: back from MA/update on dad

Well good luck with your visit, I hope he is in a good mind space while you're there.

  ~*~Hugs~*~

~*~Akiba~*~

Pragmatic Visionary

http://www.affiliates-natural-salt-lamps.com/pages/156.php

-- back from MA/update on dad

Hi everyone. I want to thank those of you who have been praying for my dad, and sending me encouraging notes. (n, nne, Sharon, Nukhet, Akiba, Jackie,Reb...and whomever else I'm forgetting--I apologize). The latest and the greatest is that they are considering hospice go in. My family is up in arms however regarding this, saying that they don't necessarily think he's at death's door, and do folks just 'give up', i.e. the nursing home staff, when they hear someone's on hospice? My sister, who used to be comptroller in a skilled nursing home states that one can be on hospice for a temporary time, and if/when someone might need it again down the road, it can be ordered again. Medicare picks it up. I think family is leery, as my mom began hospice and it seemed that not too terribly long into it, she passed. So, there's fear there. His O2 levels are up, his fever is down but his cough and breathing are not

good. My daughter, Kara (22) lives near my dad, and is off from work this Thursday. So, Lloyd and I, along with 3 of the kids (Lia can't come cause she is in Boston at school)--will drive down to Philly for the day, to go and visit with dad and with Kara. I just hope he's up for a visit. He usually nods off I'm told, and can get overwhelmed with a lot of people. I think we'll all go up, then if it's too much for him, just go in groups of 2 or 3 at a time.My trip to Boston with my daughter was fun. She had 4 hockey games; 2 of which she played in. She tied one, and lost the other. As she is a goalie, she and the other goalie take turns playing, or sometimes they'll split a game. I'm still a bit tired from a 3 and a half hour drive (each way) up there and back. I just wanted to catch folks up a bit on my trip and my dad.Thanks again for all the well wishes.love to you all,Kate

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I am in awe of you, Anne. God Bless you for taking on both child and adult bereavement. What a beautiful thing.love, KateTo: MSersLife Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 10:33:02 AMSubject: Re: back from MA/update on dad

I found out when my dad had cancer in 1984 that my two nephews dealt with it better than my sons - they saw him on his good days and his bad days and went to his funerals - my sons stays in MO - I came back and stayed a week or 10 days - my sons - especially the oldest one who was the only one for over 9 years has never come to terms with it

when I was bereavement coordinator at Hospice I had 18 kids under 18 that had a parent or grand parent dying of cancer - I called Lawton Public Schools - I knew one of the whatever 's title was - forget - he passed me on to the right person - I asked what the protocol was for child bereavement - the answer I got left me speechless - well, if the counselor feels comfortable they work with the child - meaning they don't bother

that is why I got certified in child bereavement and adult bereavement God, grant me the strength of eagles wings, the faith and courage to fly to new heights, and the wisdom to rely on his spirit to carry me there.

To: MSersLife Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 9:18:48 AMSubject: Re: back from MA/update on dad

That's so true, Anne. If there is preparation for it, it can go much more smoothly. Otherwise, itis confusing and can be devastating. I'm sorry you had to go through that with your son.love,Kate

To: MSersLife Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 10:13:24 AMSubject: Re: back from MA/update on dad

Labor Day of 1971 my ex took us home to St Louis to meet his Mom and then to Indiana to meet his grandmothers and his aunt - he forgot to tell me his aunt had had a brain tumor and it affected her like altzheimers - when she took on with my 4 year old son like it was my ex at that age - I excused myself and said we are going to Grandma - come when you are ready

I never forgave him for the trauma he inflicted on my son

had I known I could have prepared my son for it and it would have gone better God, grant me the strength of eagles wings, the faith and courage to fly to new heights, and the wisdom to rely on his spirit to carry me there.

To: MSersLife Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 8:56:36 AMSubject: Re: back from MA/update on dad

Thank you, Akiba. It can be confusing for the kids to see himdisoriented, so I pray you're right.love you my friend,Kate

To: MSersLife Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 2:17:18 AMSubject: Re: back from MA/update on dad

Well good luck with your visit, I hope he is in a good mind space while you're there.

  ~*~Hugs~*~

~*~Akiba~*~

Pragmatic Visionary

http://www.affiliates-natural-salt-lamps.com/pages/156.php

-- back from MA/update on dad

Hi everyone. I want to thank those of you who have been praying for my dad, and sending me encouraging notes. (n, nne, Sharon, Nukhet, Akiba, Jackie,Reb...and whomever else I'm forgetting--I apologize). The latest and the greatest is that they are considering hospice go in. My family is up in arms however regarding this, saying that they don't necessarily think he's at death's door, and do folks just 'give up', i.e. the nursing home staff, when they hear someone's on hospice? My sister, who used to be comptroller in a skilled nursing home states that one can be on hospice for a temporary time, and if/when someone might need it again down the road, it can be ordered again. Medicare picks it up. I think family is leery, as my mom began hospice and it seemed that not too terribly long into it, she passed. So, there's fear there. His O2 levels are up, his fever is down but his cough and breathing are not

good. My daughter, Kara (22) lives near my dad, and is off from work this Thursday. So, Lloyd and I, along with 3 of the kids (Lia can't come cause she is in Boston at school)--will drive down to Philly for the day, to go and visit with dad and with Kara. I just hope he's up for a visit. He usually nods off I'm told, and can get overwhelmed with a lot of people. I think we'll all go up, then if it's too much for him, just go in groups of 2 or 3 at a time.My trip to Boston with my daughter was fun. She had 4 hockey games; 2 of which she played in. She tied one, and lost the other. As she is a goalie, she and the other goalie take turns playing, or sometimes they'll split a game. I'm still a bit tired from a 3 and a half hour drive (each way) up there and back. I just wanted to catch folks up a bit on my trip and my dad.Thanks again for all the well wishes.love to you all,Kate

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the adult bereavement started in 1985 when I went through my oun divorce through Beginnning Experience - I met Sister phine in 2002 when I made my 4th weekend - she designed the program with Harville Hendrix

I learned more in BE than in college and grad school - when workshops and lectures came up - I went with it - I was also an intern at out local Campus Ministry- obviously I worked with the older students and helped iwth the kids God, grant me the strength of eagles wings, the faith and courage to fly to new heights, and the wisdom to rely on his spirit to carry me there.

To: MSersLife Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 4:03:25 PMSubject: Re: back from MA/update on dad

I am in awe of you, Anne. God Bless you for taking on both child and adult bereavement. What a beautiful thing.love, Kate

To: MSersLife Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 10:33:02 AMSubject: Re: back from MA/update on dad

I found out when my dad had cancer in 1984 that my two nephews dealt with it better than my sons - they saw him on his good days and his bad days and went to his funerals - my sons stays in MO - I came back and stayed a week or 10 days - my sons - especially the oldest one who was the only one for over 9 years has never come to terms with it

when I was bereavement coordinator at Hospice I had 18 kids under 18 that had a parent or grand parent dying of cancer - I called Lawton Public Schools - I knew one of the whatever 's title was - forget - he passed me on to the right person - I asked what the protocol was for child bereavement - the answer I got left me speechless - well, if the counselor feels comfortable they work with the child - meaning they don't bother

that is why I got certified in child bereavement and adult bereavement God, grant me the strength of eagles wings, the faith and courage to fly to new heights, and the wisdom to rely on his spirit to carry me there.

To: MSersLife Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 9:18:48 AMSubject: Re: back from MA/update on dad

That's so true, Anne. If there is preparation for it, it can go much more smoothly. Otherwise, itis confusing and can be devastating. I'm sorry you had to go through that with your son.love,Kate

To: MSersLife Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 10:13:24 AMSubject: Re: back from MA/update on dad

Labor Day of 1971 my ex took us home to St Louis to meet his Mom and then to Indiana to meet his grandmothers and his aunt - he forgot to tell me his aunt had had a brain tumor and it affected her like altzheimers - when she took on with my 4 year old son like it was my ex at that age - I excused myself and said we are going to Grandma - come when you are ready

I never forgave him for the trauma he inflicted on my son

had I known I could have prepared my son for it and it would have gone better God, grant me the strength of eagles wings, the faith and courage to fly to new heights, and the wisdom to rely on his spirit to carry me there.

To: MSersLife Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 8:56:36 AMSubject: Re: back from MA/update on dad

Thank you, Akiba. It can be confusing for the kids to see himdisoriented, so I pray you're right.love you my friend,Kate

To: MSersLife Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 2:17:18 AMSubject: Re: back from MA/update on dad

Well good luck with your visit, I hope he is in a good mind space while you're there.

  ~*~Hugs~*~

~*~Akiba~*~

Pragmatic Visionary

http://www.affiliates-natural-salt-lamps.com/pages/156.php

-- back from MA/update on dad

Hi everyone. I want to thank those of you who have been praying for my dad, and sending me encouraging notes. (n, nne, Sharon, Nukhet, Akiba, Jackie,Reb...and whomever else I'm forgetting--I apologize). The latest and the greatest is that they are considering hospice go in. My family is up in arms however regarding this, saying that they don't necessarily think he's at death's door, and do folks just 'give up', i.e. the nursing home staff, when they hear someone's on hospice? My sister, who used to be comptroller in a skilled nursing home states that one can be on hospice for a temporary time, and if/when someone might need it again down the road, it can be ordered again. Medicare picks it up. I think family is leery, as my mom began hospice and it seemed that not too terribly long into it, she passed. So, there's fear there. His O2 levels are up, his fever is down but his cough and breathing are not

good. My daughter, Kara (22) lives near my dad, and is off from work this Thursday. So, Lloyd and I, along with 3 of the kids (Lia can't come cause she is in Boston at school)--will drive down to Philly for the day, to go and visit with dad and with Kara. I just hope he's up for a visit. He usually nods off I'm told, and can get overwhelmed with a lot of people. I think we'll all go up, then if it's too much for him, just go in groups of 2 or 3 at a time.My trip to Boston with my daughter was fun. She had 4 hockey games; 2 of which she played in. She tied one, and lost the other. As she is a goalie, she and the other goalie take turns playing, or sometimes they'll split a game. I'm still a bit tired from a 3 and a half hour drive (each way) up there and back. I just wanted to catch folks up a bit on my trip and my dad.Thanks again for all the well wishes.love to you all,Kate

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I just did a google search on Beginning Experience. How neat! What a wonderful thing Sr. phine did by starting this program. it looks like it's helped thousands of folk. That's fantastic that it helped and guided you, Anne. Amazing how when people, like Sr. phine are obedient to God's leading, big things can happen.love you,KateTo:

MSersLife Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 5:12:31 PMSubject: Re: back from MA/update on dad

the adult bereavement started in 1985 when I went through my oun divorce through Beginnning Experience - I met Sister phine in 2002 when I made my 4th weekend - she designed the program with Harville Hendrix

I learned more in BE than in college and grad school - when workshops and lectures came up - I went with it - I was also an intern at out local Campus Ministry- obviously I worked with the older students and helped iwth the kids God, grant me the strength of eagles wings, the faith and courage to fly to new heights, and the wisdom to rely on his spirit to carry me there.

To: MSersLife Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 4:03:25 PMSubject: Re: back from MA/update on dad

I am in awe of you, Anne. God Bless you for taking on both child and adult bereavement. What a beautiful thing.love, Kate

To: MSersLife Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 10:33:02 AMSubject: Re: back from MA/update on dad

I found out when my dad had cancer in 1984 that my two nephews dealt with it better than my sons - they saw him on his good days and his bad days and went to his funerals - my sons stays in MO - I came back and stayed a week or 10 days - my sons - especially the oldest one who was the only one for over 9 years has never come to terms with it

when I was bereavement coordinator at Hospice I had 18 kids under 18 that had a parent or grand parent dying of cancer - I called Lawton Public Schools - I knew one of the whatever 's title was - forget - he passed me on to the right person - I asked what the protocol was for child bereavement - the answer I got left me speechless - well, if the counselor feels comfortable they work with the child - meaning they don't bother

that is why I got certified in child bereavement and adult bereavement God, grant me the strength of eagles wings, the faith and courage to fly to new heights, and the wisdom to rely on his spirit to carry me there.

To: MSersLife Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 9:18:48 AMSubject: Re: back from MA/update on dad

That's so true, Anne. If there is preparation for it, it can go much more smoothly. Otherwise, itis confusing and can be devastating. I'm sorry you had to go through that with your son.love,Kate

To: MSersLife Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 10:13:24 AMSubject: Re: back from MA/update on dad

Labor Day of 1971 my ex took us home to St Louis to meet his Mom and then to Indiana to meet his grandmothers and his aunt - he forgot to tell me his aunt had had a brain tumor and it affected her like altzheimers - when she took on with my 4 year old son like it was my ex at that age - I excused myself and said we are going to Grandma - come when you are ready

I never forgave him for the trauma he inflicted on my son

had I known I could have prepared my son for it and it would have gone better God, grant me the strength of eagles wings, the faith and courage to fly to new heights, and the wisdom to rely on his spirit to carry me there.

To: MSersLife Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 8:56:36 AMSubject: Re: back from MA/update on dad

Thank you, Akiba. It can be confusing for the kids to see himdisoriented, so I pray you're right.love you my friend,Kate

To: MSersLife Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 2:17:18 AMSubject: Re: back from MA/update on dad

Well good luck with your visit, I hope he is in a good mind space while you're there.

  ~*~Hugs~*~

~*~Akiba~*~

Pragmatic Visionary

http://www.affiliates-natural-salt-lamps.com/pages/156.php

-- back from MA/update on dad

Hi everyone. I want to thank those of you who have been praying for my dad, and sending me encouraging notes. (n, nne, Sharon, Nukhet, Akiba, Jackie,Reb...and whomever else I'm forgetting--I apologize). The latest and the greatest is that they are considering hospice go in. My family is up in arms however regarding this, saying that they don't necessarily think he's at death's door, and do folks just 'give up', i.e. the nursing home staff, when they hear someone's on hospice? My sister, who used to be comptroller in a skilled nursing home states that one can be on hospice for a temporary time, and if/when someone might need it again down the road, it can be ordered again. Medicare picks it up. I think family is leery, as my mom began hospice and it seemed that not too terribly long into it, she passed. So, there's fear there. His O2 levels are up, his fever is down but his cough and breathing are not

good. My daughter, Kara (22) lives near my dad, and is off from work this Thursday. So, Lloyd and I, along with 3 of the kids (Lia can't come cause she is in Boston at school)--will drive down to Philly for the day, to go and visit with dad and with Kara. I just hope he's up for a visit. He usually nods off I'm told, and can get overwhelmed with a lot of people. I think we'll all go up, then if it's too much for him, just go in groups of 2 or 3 at a time.My trip to Boston with my daughter was fun. She had 4 hockey games; 2 of which she played in. She tied one, and lost the other. As she is a goalie, she and the other goalie take turns playing, or sometimes they'll split a game. I'm still a bit tired from a 3 and a half hour drive (each way) up there and back. I just wanted to catch folks up a bit on my trip and my dad.Thanks again for all the well wishes.love to you all,Kate

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it went from Dallas - Fort Worth, TX to planet wide - not jjust for adults - for teens

she is special - we were the only non denominational group - I went on a weekend seminar for college credit with the Tinker Air Force Base team - I got adopted

out of their pain they hold out a hand - just like we do - she is not retired yet - she is in Wichita Falls, TX - 45 miles south of here

she is special God, grant me the strength of eagles wings, the faith and courage to fly to new heights, and the wisdom to rely on his spirit to carry me there.

To: MSersLife Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 4:20:03 PMSubject: Re: back from MA/update on dad

I just did a google search on Beginning Experience. How neat! What a wonderful thing Sr. phine did by starting this program. it looks like it's helped thousands of folk. That's fantastic that it helped and guided you, Anne. Amazing how when people, like Sr. phine are obedient to God's leading, big things can happen.love you,Kate

To: MSersLife Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 5:12:31 PMSubject: Re: back from MA/update on dad

the adult bereavement started in 1985 when I went through my oun divorce through Beginnning Experience - I met Sister phine in 2002 when I made my 4th weekend - she designed the program with Harville Hendrix

I learned more in BE than in college and grad school - when workshops and lectures came up - I went with it - I was also an intern at out local Campus Ministry- obviously I worked with the older students and helped iwth the kids God, grant me the strength of eagles wings, the faith and courage to fly to new heights, and the wisdom to rely on his spirit to carry me there.

To: MSersLife Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 4:03:25 PMSubject: Re: back from MA/update on dad

I am in awe of you, Anne. God Bless you for taking on both child and adult bereavement. What a beautiful thing.love, Kate

To: MSersLife Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 10:33:02 AMSubject: Re: back from MA/update on dad

I found out when my dad had cancer in 1984 that my two nephews dealt with it better than my sons - they saw him on his good days and his bad days and went to his funerals - my sons stays in MO - I came back and stayed a week or 10 days - my sons - especially the oldest one who was the only one for over 9 years has never come to terms with it

when I was bereavement coordinator at Hospice I had 18 kids under 18 that had a parent or grand parent dying of cancer - I called Lawton Public Schools - I knew one of the whatever 's title was - forget - he passed me on to the right person - I asked what the protocol was for child bereavement - the answer I got left me speechless - well, if the counselor feels comfortable they work with the child - meaning they don't bother

that is why I got certified in child bereavement and adult bereavement God, grant me the strength of eagles wings, the faith and courage to fly to new heights, and the wisdom to rely on his spirit to carry me there.

To: MSersLife Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 9:18:48 AMSubject: Re: back from MA/update on dad

That's so true, Anne. If there is preparation for it, it can go much more smoothly. Otherwise, itis confusing and can be devastating. I'm sorry you had to go through that with your son.love,Kate

To: MSersLife Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 10:13:24 AMSubject: Re: back from MA/update on dad

Labor Day of 1971 my ex took us home to St Louis to meet his Mom and then to Indiana to meet his grandmothers and his aunt - he forgot to tell me his aunt had had a brain tumor and it affected her like altzheimers - when she took on with my 4 year old son like it was my ex at that age - I excused myself and said we are going to Grandma - come when you are ready

I never forgave him for the trauma he inflicted on my son

had I known I could have prepared my son for it and it would have gone better God, grant me the strength of eagles wings, the faith and courage to fly to new heights, and the wisdom to rely on his spirit to carry me there.

To: MSersLife Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 8:56:36 AMSubject: Re: back from MA/update on dad

Thank you, Akiba. It can be confusing for the kids to see himdisoriented, so I pray you're right.love you my friend,Kate

To: MSersLife Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 2:17:18 AMSubject: Re: back from MA/update on dad

Well good luck with your visit, I hope he is in a good mind space while you're there.

  ~*~Hugs~*~

~*~Akiba~*~

Pragmatic Visionary

http://www.affiliates-natural-salt-lamps.com/pages/156.php

-- back from MA/update on dad

Hi everyone. I want to thank those of you who have been praying for my dad, and sending me encouraging notes. (n, nne, Sharon, Nukhet, Akiba, Jackie,Reb...and whomever else I'm forgetting--I apologize). The latest and the greatest is that they are considering hospice go in. My family is up in arms however regarding this, saying that they don't necessarily think he's at death's door, and do folks just 'give up', i.e. the nursing home staff, when they hear someone's on hospice? My sister, who used to be comptroller in a skilled nursing home states that one can be on hospice for a temporary time, and if/when someone might need it again down the road, it can be ordered again. Medicare picks it up. I think family is leery, as my mom began hospice and it seemed that not too terribly long into it, she passed. So, there's fear there. His O2 levels are up, his fever is down but his cough and breathing are not

good. My daughter, Kara (22) lives near my dad, and is off from work this Thursday. So, Lloyd and I, along with 3 of the kids (Lia can't come cause she is in Boston at school)--will drive down to Philly for the day, to go and visit with dad and with Kara. I just hope he's up for a visit. He usually nods off I'm told, and can get overwhelmed with a lot of people. I think we'll all go up, then if it's too much for him, just go in groups of 2 or 3 at a time.My trip to Boston with my daughter was fun. She had 4 hockey games; 2 of which she played in. She tied one, and lost the other. As she is a goalie, she and the other goalie take turns playing, or sometimes they'll split a game. I'm still a bit tired from a 3 and a half hour drive (each way) up there and back. I just wanted to catch folks up a bit on my trip and my dad.Thanks again for all the well wishes.love to you all,Kate

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She sounds extremely special...so, she is still around? That's wonderful. Well, surely her B.E. will be around forever, and serve many, many people.Thanks for sharing about her, Anne.love, KateTo: MSersLife Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 5:23:34 PMSubject: Re: back from MA/update on dad

it went from Dallas - Fort Worth, TX to planet wide - not jjust for adults - for teens

she is special - we were the only non denominational group - I went on a weekend seminar for college credit with the Tinker Air Force Base team - I got adopted

out of their pain they hold out a hand - just like we do - she is not retired yet - she is in Wichita Falls, TX - 45 miles south of here

she is special God, grant me the strength of eagles wings, the faith and courage to fly to new heights, and the wisdom to rely on his spirit to carry me there.

To: MSersLife Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 4:20:03 PMSubject: Re: back from MA/update on dad

I just did a google search on Beginning Experience. How neat! What a wonderful thing Sr. phine did by starting this program. it looks like it's helped thousands of folk. That's fantastic that it helped and guided you, Anne. Amazing how when people, like Sr. phine are obedient to God's leading, big things can happen.love you,Kate

To: MSersLife Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 5:12:31 PMSubject: Re: back from MA/update on dad

the adult bereavement started in 1985 when I went through my oun divorce through Beginnning Experience - I met Sister phine in 2002 when I made my 4th weekend - she designed the program with Harville Hendrix

I learned more in BE than in college and grad school - when workshops and lectures came up - I went with it - I was also an intern at out local Campus Ministry- obviously I worked with the older students and helped iwth the kids God, grant me the strength of eagles wings, the faith and courage to fly to new heights, and the wisdom to rely on his spirit to carry me there.

To: MSersLife Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 4:03:25 PMSubject: Re: back from MA/update on dad

I am in awe of you, Anne. God Bless you for taking on both child and adult bereavement. What a beautiful thing.love, Kate

To: MSersLife Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 10:33:02 AMSubject: Re: back from MA/update on dad

I found out when my dad had cancer in 1984 that my two nephews dealt with it better than my sons - they saw him on his good days and his bad days and went to his funerals - my sons stays in MO - I came back and stayed a week or 10 days - my sons - especially the oldest one who was the only one for over 9 years has never come to terms with it

when I was bereavement coordinator at Hospice I had 18 kids under 18 that had a parent or grand parent dying of cancer - I called Lawton Public Schools - I knew one of the whatever 's title was - forget - he passed me on to the right person - I asked what the protocol was for child bereavement - the answer I got left me speechless - well, if the counselor feels comfortable they work with the child - meaning they don't bother

that is why I got certified in child bereavement and adult bereavement God, grant me the strength of eagles wings, the faith and courage to fly to new heights, and the wisdom to rely on his spirit to carry me there.

To: MSersLife Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 9:18:48 AMSubject: Re: back from MA/update on dad

That's so true, Anne. If there is preparation for it, it can go much more smoothly. Otherwise, itis confusing and can be devastating. I'm sorry you had to go through that with your son.love,Kate

To: MSersLife Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 10:13:24 AMSubject: Re: back from MA/update on dad

Labor Day of 1971 my ex took us home to St Louis to meet his Mom and then to Indiana to meet his grandmothers and his aunt - he forgot to tell me his aunt had had a brain tumor and it affected her like altzheimers - when she took on with my 4 year old son like it was my ex at that age - I excused myself and said we are going to Grandma - come when you are ready

I never forgave him for the trauma he inflicted on my son

had I known I could have prepared my son for it and it would have gone better God, grant me the strength of eagles wings, the faith and courage to fly to new heights, and the wisdom to rely on his spirit to carry me there.

To: MSersLife Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 8:56:36 AMSubject: Re: back from MA/update on dad

Thank you, Akiba. It can be confusing for the kids to see himdisoriented, so I pray you're right.love you my friend,Kate

To: MSersLife Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 2:17:18 AMSubject: Re: back from MA/update on dad

Well good luck with your visit, I hope he is in a good mind space while you're there.

  ~*~Hugs~*~

~*~Akiba~*~

Pragmatic Visionary

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-- back from MA/update on dad

Hi everyone. I want to thank those of you who have been praying for my dad, and sending me encouraging notes. (n, nne, Sharon, Nukhet, Akiba, Jackie,Reb...and whomever else I'm forgetting--I apologize). The latest and the greatest is that they are considering hospice go in. My family is up in arms however regarding this, saying that they don't necessarily think he's at death's door, and do folks just 'give up', i.e. the nursing home staff, when they hear someone's on hospice? My sister, who used to be comptroller in a skilled nursing home states that one can be on hospice for a temporary time, and if/when someone might need it again down the road, it can be ordered again. Medicare picks it up. I think family is leery, as my mom began hospice and it seemed that not too terribly long into it, she passed. So, there's fear there. His O2 levels are up, his fever is down but his cough and breathing are not

good. My daughter, Kara (22) lives near my dad, and is off from work this Thursday. So, Lloyd and I, along with 3 of the kids (Lia can't come cause she is in Boston at school)--will drive down to Philly for the day, to go and visit with dad and with Kara. I just hope he's up for a visit. He usually nods off I'm told, and can get overwhelmed with a lot of people. I think we'll all go up, then if it's too much for him, just go in groups of 2 or 3 at a time.My trip to Boston with my daughter was fun. She had 4 hockey games; 2 of which she played in. She tied one, and lost the other. As she is a goalie, she and the other goalie take turns playing, or sometimes they'll split a game. I'm still a bit tired from a 3 and a half hour drive (each way) up there and back. I just wanted to catch folks up a bit on my trip and my dad.Thanks again for all the well wishes.love to you all,Kate

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I know I have a webcam...yes, she does also. We'll have to Skype each other. As it is , we text a few times a week. I'm looking forward to seeing her on Thursday.love you Sharon,KateTo: MSersLife Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 9:59:52 AMSubject:

Re: back from MA/update on dad

They lived in Watertown and then on Ft. Drum for several years. My second grandchild was born in Watertown. I was there for 's birth--nothing would have kept me away! lol If Kara goes to Boulder you will be on the phone with her every day:) Do you both have webcams so you can talk and see each other?hugs SharonThis email is a natural hand made product. The slight variations in spelling and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in no way are to be considered flaws or defects. To: MSersLife Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 7:54:26 AMSubject: Re: back from MA/update on

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For how long did they live there, Sharon? That must have been so hard on you.Now look! You are surrounded by grandchildren now! lol. As they say, when itrains, it pours! I can't imagine going 2 long years without seeing Kara. I DO solove Boulder; had been there when I was much younger, and fell in love withthe mountains. It's just stunning there. I have to see how expensive it might beto fly out there.love you my friend,KateFrom:

Sharon To: MSersLife Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 9:20:20 AMSubject: Re: back from MA/update on dad

You did mention before that Kara is thinking of going away that far. I know how hard that is. When Challis moved to Ft. Drum at Watertown, NY I was so upset. It was such a long way away! She had a one year old (my first grandchild) and I spent a small fortune sending gifts to him. A gramma is supposed to be close! lollove you SharonThis email is a natural hand made product. The slight variations in spelling and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in no way are to be considered flaws or defects. To: MSersLife Sent: Mon, February 21, 2011 6:09:59 PMSubject: Re: back

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My brother Larry went ahead with the decision...sorry if I have stated this already. I'm beginning to feel overwhelmed by everything.Thanks, Sharon.I'm not sure I had written this lately, but Kara is in the midst of applying to grad schools. She doesn't know where she'll be accepted, but she wants very much to go to Naropa University in Boulder, CO. She is studying Art Therapy. I am feeling overwhelmed by the fact that if she's out that way (or possibly Minnesota, as that is another choice), we won't be seeing much of her for the next 2 years. Scary. Hard to let go of kids...love you my friend,KateTo: MSersLife Sent: Mon, February 21, 2011 7:07:52 PMSubject: Re: back from MA/update on dad

I hope you and the family can come to a united decision on your dad and hospice. I'm glad you will get to go see him and Kara soon. Let me know how the visit goes!love SharonThis email is a natural hand made product. The slight variations in spelling and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in no way are to be considered flaws or defects. To: MSersLife Sent: Mon, February 21, 2011 11:56:39 AMSubject: back from MA/update on dad

Hi everyone. I want to thank those of you who have been praying for my dad, and sending me encouraging notes. (n, nne, Sharon, Nukhet, Akiba, Jackie,Reb...and whomever else I'm forgetting--I apologize). The latest and the greatest is that they are considering hospice go in. My family is up in arms however regarding this, saying that they don't necessarily think he's at death's door, and do folks just 'give up', i.e. the nursing home staff, when they hear someone's on hospice? My sister, who used to be comptroller in a skilled nursing home states that one can be on hospice for a temporary time, and if/when someone might need it again down the road, it can be ordered again. Medicare picks it up. I think family is leery, as my mom began

hospice and it seemed that not too terribly long into it, she passed. So, there's fear there. His O2 levels are up, his fever is down but his cough and breathing are not good. My daughter, Kara (22) lives near my dad, and is off from work this Thursday. So, Lloyd and I, along with 3 of the kids (Lia can't come cause she is in Boston at school)--will drive down to Philly for the day, to go and visit with dad and with Kara. I just hope he's up for a visit. He usually nods off I'm told, and can get overwhelmed with a lot of people. I think we'll all go up, then if it's too much for him, just go in groups of 2 or 3 at a time.My trip to Boston with my daughter was fun. She had 4 hockey games; 2 of which she played in. She tied one, and lost the other. As she is a goalie, she and the other goalie take turns playing, or sometimes they'll split a game. I'm still a bit tired from a 3 and a half hour drive (each way) up there and back. I just wanted

to catch folks up a bit on my trip and my dad.Thanks again for all the well wishes.love to you all,Kate

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