Cutlers protocol

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Hi!

Can anyone please tell me about their experience with Cutlers protocol/ chelation with DMSA??

I am thinking of it for my daugther. She has high mercury-levels.

She is a 6 year old girl, good sleep,can speak(but not like other 6 years old) play with her things, smiles, and dont cry much anymore...but she dont show much interess in other children. She play alone.

Can DMSA help??

All the best

Liv

Norway

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My son is doing fantastic with this chelation protocol. He's in normal preschool

right now, starting to write his name, playing with his peers. At one point he

couldn't cross from sidewalk to grass, stimmed all day long. We've been at it

for a year and a half and it has been the best intervention we have tried.

jenib

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> Hi!

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> Can anyone please tell me about their experience with Cutlers protocol/

chelation with DMSA??

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> I am thinking of it for my daugther. She has high mercury-levels.

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> She is a 6 year old girl, good sleep,can speak(but not like other 6 years old)

play with her things, smiles, and dont cry much anymore...but she dont show much

interess in other children. She play alone.

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> Can DMSA help??

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> All the best

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> Liv

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> Norway

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DMSA is for lead toxicity.ALA helps mercurySent from my iPhone

Hi!

Can anyone please tell me about their experience with Cutlers protocol/ chelation with DMSA??

I am thinking of it for my daugther. She has high mercury-levels.

She is a 6 year old girl, good sleep,can speak(but not like other 6 years old) play with her things, smiles, and dont cry much anymore...but she dont show much interess in other children. She play alone.

Can DMSA help??

All the best

Liv

Norway

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Hi

Thats fantastic! I am so glad to hear that!

I`ve been told to give DMSA every 4 hour for 3 days, then 11 days off. Do this 10 weeks and then 10 weeks off. Do you do it like that too??

Liv

To: mb12valtrex From: brinckerhoffjennifer@...Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 13:51:18 +0000Subject: Re: Cutlers protocol

My son is doing fantastic with this chelation protocol. He's in normal preschool right now, starting to write his name, playing with his peers. At one point he couldn't cross from sidewalk to grass, stimmed all day long. We've been at it for a year and a half and it has been the best intervention we have tried. jenib>> > Hi!> > > Can anyone please tell me about their experience with Cutlers protocol/ chelation with DMSA??> > I am thinking of it for my daugther. She has high mercury-levels. > > She is a 6 year old girl, good sleep,can speak(but not like other 6 years old) play with her things, smiles, and dont cry much anymore...but she dont show much interess in other children. She play alone. > > Can DMSA help??> > All the best> > Liv> > Norway>

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DMSA actually chelates both which is why some use it. Sent from my iPhone

DMSA is for lead toxicity.ALA helps mercurySent from my iPhone

Hi!

Can anyone please tell me about their experience with Cutlers protocol/ chelation with DMSA??

I am thinking of it for my daugther. She has high mercury-levels.

She is a 6 year old girl, good sleep,can speak(but not like other 6 years old) play with her things, smiles, and dont cry much anymore...but she dont show much interess in other children. She play alone.

Can DMSA help??

All the best

Liv

Norway

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Hi Liv

We chelate for 84 hours on 84 hours off, i can do this because i am home educating my son, when he was at school i would start round at 4pm on friday and finish 8am Monday. I give DMSA & ALA and dose every 3 hours in day and stretch to 4 hours at night time. I have to odd week off here and there when we are busy/tired/ill but havent ever heard of anyone do 10 weeks on and then taking 10 weeks off

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To: mb12valtrex From: livhelena@...Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 15:23:01 +0100Subject: RE: Re: Cutlers protocol

Hi Thats fantastic! I am so glad to hear that! I`ve been told to give DMSA every 4 hour for 3 days, then 11 days off. Do this 10 weeks and then 10 weeks off. Do you do it like that too?? Liv

To: mb12valtrex From: brinckerhoffjennifer@...Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 13:51:18 +0000Subject: Re: Cutlers protocol

My son is doing fantastic with this chelation protocol. He's in normal preschool right now, starting to write his name, playing with his peers. At one point he couldn't cross from sidewalk to grass, stimmed all day long. We've been at it for a year and a half and it has been the best intervention we have tried. jenib>> > Hi!> > > Can anyone please tell me about their experience with Cutlers protocol/ chelation with DMSA??> > I am thinking of it for my daugther. She has high mercury-levels. > > She is a 6 year old girl, good sleep,can speak(but not like other 6 years old) play with her things, smiles, and dont cry much anymore...but she dont show much interess in other children. She play alone. > > Can DMSA help??> > All the best> > Liv> > Norway>

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ALA also crosses blood brain barrier.

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To: mb12valtrex From: dan-ruth-setlak@...Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 10:32:01 -0400Subject: Re: Cutlers protocol

DMSA actually chelates both which is why some use it. Sent from my iPhone

DMSA is for lead toxicity.

ALA helps mercurySent from my iPhone

Hi! Can anyone please tell me about their experience with Cutlers protocol/ chelation with DMSA?? I am thinking of it for my daugther. She has high mercury-levels. She is a 6 year old girl, good sleep,can speak(but not like other 6 years old) play with her things, smiles, and dont cry much anymore...but she dont show much interess in other children. She play alone. Can DMSA help?? All the best Liv Norway

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,Did you work up the dose or keep the same.We have done it maybe 10 times with initially good results but it quickly goes away without regular doses. I also increased dose because I thought I should. I also heard that regression is OK and then keep doing it because there are up and down times.I am trying to keep hoping.Do you do the vitamins everyday even when not chelating? Virginia 341-22nd Street West Owen Sound ON N4K 4E9To: Valtrex <mb12valtrex >Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2011 10:38:08 AMSubject: RE: Re: Cutlers protocol

Hi Liv

We chelate for 84 hours on 84 hours off, i can do this because i am home educating my son, when he was at school i would start round at 4pm on friday and finish 8am Monday. I give DMSA & ALA and dose every 3 hours in day and stretch to 4 hours at night time. I have to odd week off here and there when we are busy/tired/ill but havent ever heard of anyone do 10 weeks on and then taking 10 weeks off

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To: mb12valtrex From: livhelena@...Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 15:23:01 +0100Subject: RE: Re: Cutlers protocol

Hi Thats fantastic! I am so glad to hear that! I`ve been told to give DMSA every 4 hour for 3 days, then 11 days off. Do this 10 weeks and then 10 weeks off. Do you do it like that too?? Liv

To: mb12valtrex From: brinckerhoffjennifer@...Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 13:51:18 +0000Subject: Re: Cutlers protocol

My son is doing fantastic with this chelation protocol. He's in normal preschool right now, starting to write his name, playing with his peers. At one point he couldn't cross from sidewalk to grass, stimmed all day long. We've been at it for a year and a half and it has been the best intervention we have tried. jenib>> > Hi!> > > Can anyone please tell me about their experience with Cutlers protocol/ chelation with DMSA??> > I am thinking of it for my daugther. She has high mercury-levels. > > She is a 6 year old girl, good sleep,can speak(but not like other 6 years old) play with her things, smiles, and dont cry much

anymore...but she dont show much interess in other children. She play alone. > > Can DMSA help??> > All the best> > Liv> > Norway>

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Gotcha, thanks! Did not know that. Sent from my iPhone

DMSA actually chelates both which is why some use it. Sent from my iPhone

DMSA is for lead toxicity.ALA helps mercurySent from my iPhone

Hi!

Can anyone please tell me about their experience with Cutlers protocol/ chelation with DMSA??

I am thinking of it for my daugther. She has high mercury-levels.

She is a 6 year old girl, good sleep,can speak(but not like other 6 years old) play with her things, smiles, and dont cry much anymore...but she dont show much interess in other children. She play alone.

Can DMSA help??

All the best

Liv

Norway

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Hi Virginia

Yes do supporting supplements every day, including lots of anti fungal supps (although i found yeast not to be an issue after round 50). I initially did 5 months of TD-DMPS because i was scared of oral chelation, now my only issue is i wished i started it earlier, sigh....

My son will be 7 next March i have completed 69 rounds, started with 6 rounds of DMSA alone, then added in ALA, i started with 5mg or each and once i had done approx 20 rounds i upped the dose to 6.25mg DMSA(one 25mg capsule split 4 ways) & 9.375 ALA (one and a half capsules split 4 ways) I am happy with him on this dose i may increase if his weight changes drastically but for the time being i will keep as it is.

I have seen lots of improvements with him over the last year, he is really trying to talk now, academically he is doing very well but we have ran an ABA program from just before his 4th Birthday which is when we started biomeds and GF/CF diet.

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To: mb12valtrex From: virginiasmith@...Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 07:47:26 -0700Subject: Re: Re: Cutlers protocol

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Did you work up the dose or keep the same.

We have done it maybe 10 times with initially good results but it quickly goes away without regular doses. I also increased dose because I thought I should. I also heard that regression is OK and then keep doing it because there are up and down times.

I am trying to keep hoping.

Do you do the vitamins everyday even when not chelating?

Virginia

341-22nd Street West

Owen Sound ON N4K 4E9

To: Valtrex <mb12valtrex >Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2011 10:38:08 AMSubject: RE: Re: Cutlers protocol

Hi Liv We chelate for 84 hours on 84 hours off, i can do this because i am home educating my son, when he was at school i would start round at 4pm on friday and finish 8am Monday. I give DMSA & ALA and dose every 3 hours in day and stretch to 4 hours at night time. I have to odd week off here and there when we are busy/tired/ill but havent ever heard of anyone do 10 weeks on and then taking 10 weeks off x

To: mb12valtrex From: livhelena@...Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 15:23:01 +0100Subject: RE: Re: Cutlers protocol

Hi Thats fantastic! I am so glad to hear that! I`ve been told to give DMSA every 4 hour for 3 days, then 11 days off. Do this 10 weeks and then 10 weeks off. Do you do it like that too?? Liv

To: mb12valtrex From: brinckerhoffjennifer@...Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 13:51:18 +0000Subject: Re: Cutlers protocol

My son is doing fantastic with this chelation protocol. He's in normal preschool right now, starting to write his name, playing with his peers. At one point he couldn't cross from sidewalk to grass, stimmed all day long. We've been at it for a year and a half and it has been the best intervention we have tried. jenib>> > Hi!> > > Can anyone please tell me about their experience with Cutlers protocol/ chelation with DMSA??> > I am thinking of it for my daugther. She has high mercury-levels. > > She is a 6 year old girl, good sleep,can speak(but not like other 6 years old) play with her things, smiles, and dont cry much anymore...but she dont show much interess in other children. She play alone. > > Can DMSA help??> > All the best> > Liv> > Norway>

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Liv, yes when we use DMSA, we will chelate for 3 days, every 4 hours even

through the night. He's in school, so we do end the round a bit early, but not a

problem so far. We started with DMSA only for at least 14 rounds (I did more

than that), and yes, it does chelate body burden of mercury. Many kids, imo,

need to get the toxic load down before adding in ALA. Yes, ALA crosses the

brain, but it can bring it into the brain as well. Another drawback to early use

of ALA is that it pulls metals through the intestines, while DMSA does through

the urine, this is really helpful when gut bugs are really bad in the beginning.

jenib

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> > Can anyone please tell me about their experience with Cutlers protocol/

chelation with DMSA??

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> > I am thinking of it for my daugther. She has high mercury-levels.

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> > She is a 6 year old girl, good sleep,can speak(but not like other 6 years

old) play with her things, smiles, and dont cry much anymore...but she dont show

much interess in other children. She play alone.

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> > Can DMSA help??

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> > All the best

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> > Liv

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Oh, forgot to mention, you do not need to wait 11 days. We did this almost every

weekend and it makes a difference to do this. My son started to backslide if we

skipped too many weekends of chelation. I think it also helps raise glutathione

so much so that it is helping on a whole different level for many kids, than

just chelation. I would not have a 11 week period off either. It takes a long

time to recover a child with a slow dose chelation, but it is much safer in the

long run.

jenib

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> > Can anyone please tell me about their experience with Cutlers protocol/

chelation with DMSA??

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> > I am thinking of it for my daugther. She has high mercury-levels.

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> > She is a 6 year old girl, good sleep,can speak(but not like other 6 years

old) play with her things, smiles, and dont cry much anymore...but she dont show

much interess in other children. She play alone.

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> > Can DMSA help??

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> > All the best

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> > Liv

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> > Norway

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we are doing AC chelation (we did 6 round so far so early to say anything)and I think this is our last hope since we did everything else, just wanted to know if you guys know anybody who recovered their severely effected child, my son is at the end of the spectrum with all kind of issue except his behavior is good, I just need some word of encouragement.Thanks LiliTo:

mb12valtrex Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2011 11:05 AMSubject: Re: Cutlers protocol

Oh, forgot to mention, you do not need to wait 11 days. We did this almost every weekend and it makes a difference to do this. My son started to backslide if we skipped too many weekends of chelation. I think it also helps raise glutathione so much so that it is helping on a whole different level for many kids, than just chelation. I would not have a 11 week period off either. It takes a long time to recover a child with a slow dose chelation, but it is much safer in the long run.

jenib

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> > Can anyone please tell me about their experience with Cutlers protocol/ chelation with DMSA??

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> > She is a 6 year old girl, good sleep,can speak(but not like other 6 years old) play with her things, smiles, and dont cry much anymore...but she dont show much interess in other children. She play alone.

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> > All the best

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We have been doing this protocol for 6 months and by far the 'BEST results

producing' protocol we have ever done. (Have done both IV and suppositories

NEVER got great results.)

The ALA is for mercury which my daughter has as it crosses blood brain barrier.

We started with ALA and added in DMSA for heavy metals which have brought only

more incredible cognitive gains. Worth the effort as it has changed her life and

is attending a school with no aide. We still provide speech/OT supports.

We go up slow and steady in dosages to minimize any side effects. Join the

'recovery from autism group yahoo group' great resource for guidance and

information.

Leigh

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Klinghardt advises to take some time to mop up metals in the gut first, with

chlorella, cilantro, microsilica, (he is more specific) then to go to the

chelators that cross the blood brain barrier. Otherwise, if you start with ALA,

which chelates everything, you can stir up the metals from the gut and they will

get to the brain. He recommends ALA at the end of the process. I am not saying

this to suggest that starting with ALA will guarantee this complication, just as

a caution in case anyone has had a negative experience with ALA or wants to do

chelation in a graduated way (proceeding through parts of the body to the

brain).

For us, doing the HPU/KPU protocol, which displaces metals by replacing lost

zinc daily to the body, is bringing significant chelation all on its own for

now. From the KPU point of view, it is the KPU disorder, which causes the body

to urinate out all of your zinc, that causes the body to hold onto metals in the

first place, which uses them in place of the missing zinc. So if KPU is part of

an individual's problems, ac chelation will get the metals out for sure, but the

metals will keep being fixed from the environment to be used in place of the

missing zinc molecule- essential to so many enzyme functions (300?) in the body

and the central component of the heme molecule. In our experience, when we stop

the zinc, the girls quickly become anemic to the point of having poor blood

oxygenation, air hunger, and anxiety attacks. I don't know if this is because

the heme molecule is not forming properly or because the body is grabbing iron

from its stores when it is low in zinc.

I am only paraphrasing and summarizing from what we're in the midst of learning,

but hope it helps.

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> Hi!

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> Can anyone please tell me about their experience with Cutlers protocol/

chelation with DMSA??

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> I am thinking of it for my daugther. She has high mercury-levels.

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> She is a 6 year old girl, good sleep,can speak(but not like other 6 years old)

play with her things, smiles, and dont cry much anymore...but she dont show much

interess in other children. She play alone.

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> Can DMSA help??

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> All the best

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> Liv

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> Norway

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I personally wouldnt touch Chlorella or Cilantro at all, they only contain one thiol, so they mobilize metals but dont take them out of the body, so they can redistribute possibly causing more damage.

DMSA & ALA contain 2 thiols.

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To: mb12valtrex From: lambspeed@...Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 17:52:21 +0000Subject: Re: Cutlers protocol

Klinghardt advises to take some time to mop up metals in the gut first, with chlorella, cilantro, microsilica, (he is more specific) then to go to the chelators that cross the blood brain barrier. Otherwise, if you start with ALA, which chelates everything, you can stir up the metals from the gut and they will get to the brain. He recommends ALA at the end of the process. I am not saying this to suggest that starting with ALA will guarantee this complication, just as a caution in case anyone has had a negative experience with ALA or wants to do chelation in a graduated way (proceeding through parts of the body to the brain). For us, doing the HPU/KPU protocol, which displaces metals by replacing lost zinc daily to the body, is bringing significant chelation all on its own for now. From the KPU point of view, it is the KPU disorder, which causes the body to urinate out all of your zinc, that causes the body to hold onto metals in the first place, which uses them in place of the missing zinc. So if KPU is part of an individual's problems, ac chelation will get the metals out for sure, but the metals will keep being fixed from the environment to be used in place of the missing zinc molecule- essential to so many enzyme functions (300?) in the body and the central component of the heme molecule. In our experience, when we stop the zinc, the girls quickly become anemic to the point of having poor blood oxygenation, air hunger, and anxiety attacks. I don't know if this is because the heme molecule is not forming properly or because the body is grabbing iron from its stores when it is low in zinc.I am only paraphrasing and summarizing from what we're in the midst of learning, but hope it helps. > > > > > > > > Hi!> > > Can anyone please tell me about their experience with Cutlers protocol/ chelation with DMSA??> > I am thinking of it for my daugther. She has high mercury-levels. > > She is a 6 year old girl, good sleep,can speak(but not like other 6 years old) play with her things, smiles, and dont cry much anymore...but she dont show much interess in other children. She play alone. > > Can DMSA help??> > All the best> > Liv> > Norway>

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Thanks ! I am very curious about another issue. I think Oliver and Audrey may have parasite issues and was planning to try BioRay's Artemesia/clove. Have you tried this by any chance? We love their Liverlife (which has milk thistle) and cytoflora products and Ithink their NDFplus (which has cilantro and chlorella) started to help although i had to stop to get the gut back in order....To:

mb12valtrex Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2011 1:52 PMSubject: Re: Cutlers protocol

Klinghardt advises to take some time to mop up metals in the gut first, with chlorella, cilantro, microsilica, (he is more specific) then to go to the chelators that cross the blood brain barrier. Otherwise, if you start with ALA, which chelates everything, you can stir up the metals from the gut and they will get to the brain. He recommends ALA at the end of the process. I am not saying this to suggest that starting with ALA will guarantee this complication, just as a caution in case anyone has had a negative experience with ALA or wants to do chelation in a graduated way (proceeding through parts of the body to the brain).

For us, doing the HPU/KPU protocol, which displaces metals by replacing lost zinc daily to the body, is bringing significant chelation all on its own for now. From the KPU point of view, it is the KPU disorder, which causes the body to urinate out all of your zinc, that causes the body to hold onto metals in the first place, which uses them in place of the missing zinc. So if KPU is part of an individual's problems, ac chelation will get the metals out for sure, but the metals will keep being fixed from the environment to be used in place of the missing zinc molecule- essential to so many enzyme functions (300?) in the body and the central component of the heme molecule. In our experience, when we stop the zinc, the girls quickly become anemic to the point of having poor blood oxygenation, air hunger, and anxiety attacks. I don't know if this is because the heme molecule is not forming properly or because the body is grabbing iron from its stores when it

is low in zinc.

I am only paraphrasing and summarizing from what we're in the midst of learning, but hope it helps.

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> Hi!

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> Can anyone please tell me about their experience with Cutlers protocol/ chelation with DMSA??

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> I am thinking of it for my daugther. She has high mercury-levels.

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> She is a 6 year old girl, good sleep,can speak(but not like other 6 years old) play with her things, smiles, and dont cry much anymore...but she dont show much interess in other children. She play alone.

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> Can DMSA help??

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> All the best

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> Liv

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> Norway

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One more question. Has anyone tried zeolites? They apparently stay in and pull out of the stomach....Oliver's gut is so sensitive that I and the drs dont want to try EDTA yet....once his gut is better (if that ever happens), the plan is to try EDTA suppositories and then DMSA.....i am just not sure we will get the gut healed until we get some metals out.....To: Valtrex <mb12valtrex >Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2011 1:57 PMSubject: RE: Re: Cutlers protocol

I personally wouldnt touch Chlorella or Cilantro at all, they only contain one thiol, so they mobilize metals but dont take them out of the body, so they can redistribute possibly causing more damage.

DMSA & ALA contain 2 thiols.

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To: mb12valtrex From: lambspeed@...Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 17:52:21 +0000Subject: Re: Cutlers protocol

Klinghardt advises to take some time to mop up metals in the gut first, with chlorella, cilantro, microsilica, (he is more specific) then to go to the chelators that cross the blood brain barrier. Otherwise, if you start with ALA, which chelates everything, you can stir up the metals from the gut and they will get to the brain. He recommends ALA at the end of the process. I am not saying this to suggest that starting with ALA will guarantee this complication, just as a caution in case anyone has had a negative experience with ALA or wants to do chelation in a graduated way (proceeding through parts of the body to the brain). For us, doing the HPU/KPU protocol, which displaces metals by replacing lost zinc daily to the body, is bringing significant chelation all on its own for now. From the KPU point of view, it is the KPU disorder, which causes the body to urinate out all of your zinc, that causes the body to hold onto metals in the first place,

which uses them in place of the missing zinc. So if KPU is part of an individual's problems, ac chelation will get the metals out for sure, but the metals will keep being fixed from the environment to be used in place of the missing zinc molecule- essential to so many enzyme functions (300?) in the body and the central component of the heme molecule. In our experience, when we stop the zinc, the girls quickly become anemic to the point of having poor blood oxygenation, air hunger, and anxiety attacks. I don't know if this is because the heme molecule is not forming properly or because the body is grabbing iron from its stores when it is low in zinc.I am only paraphrasing and summarizing from what we're in the midst of learning, but hope it helps. > > > > > > > > Hi!> > > Can anyone please tell me about their experience with Cutlers protocol/ chelation with DMSA??> > I am thinking of it for my daugther. She has high mercury-levels. > > She is a 6 year old girl, good sleep,can speak(but not like other 6 years old) play with her things, smiles, and dont cry much anymore...but she dont show much interess in other children. She play alone. > > Can DMSA help??> > All the best> > Liv> > Norway>

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Hmmm. Yes, redistribution is what we are trying to avoid. We are not doing

cilantro yet, but are having GREAT success with Chlorella. ALA was a no go for

us because of acute metals detoxing stress. Now, we did run out of microsilica

for a few days while doing chlorella and it was not a good thing. -Is the

microsilica the binder that must be used with the chlorella to complete this

process I believe?

That makes me wonder, when we do try ALA again, if I use the microsilica, if

this will help the process. I still fundamentally accept the logic of getting

the metals out of the gut first with gut specific chelators, but obviously I

need to look into the issue of thiols in the chelators also. Such a complex

issue. Thanks!!!!!!!

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chelation with DMSA??

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> > I am thinking of it for my daugther. She has high mercury-levels.

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> > She is a 6 year old girl, good sleep,can speak(but not like other 6 years

old) play with her things, smiles, and dont cry much anymore...but she dont show

much interess in other children. She play alone.

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> > Can DMSA help??

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> > All the best

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> > Liv

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> > Norway

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I recall Channa and others who do ac chelation relating that the one thing they

hear the most of recovering families on the ac forum is that parents wish they

had not waited 'until the gut was healed' to address chelation- that getting

metals out of the gut it actuall what helped heal it. I am not at all extremely

educated on chelation, but I would suggest getting more information from others

here and not accepting the concept that you have to completely heal the gut

first.

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chelation with DMSA??

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> > I am thinking of it for my daugther. She has high mercury-levels.

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> > She is a 6 year old girl, good sleep,can speak(but not like other 6 years

old) play with her things, smiles, and dont cry much anymore...but she dont show

much interess in other children. She play alone.

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> > Can DMSA help??

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> > All the best

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> > Liv

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> > Norway

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I am sorry, I have not tried the BioRay products. Artemesia and clove are in

almost all of the dewormers I have looked at though. I am hoping to write an

update soon on our deworming experience, but I would quickly say that in our

experience, parasite treatment has to become a seasonal thing as some parasites

(microscopic roundworm in particular- whose life cycle includes time spent in

the lungs), are difficult to wholly irradicate. Also, we are continually exposed

to things like tapeworm and whipworm from dog waste or foods we eat.

I just responded to the discussion with an addition to the use of cilantro and

chlorella- Klinghardt always recommends doing this with microsilica (Biopure is

a good brand) as a binder. In our experience going a few days without

microsilica was problematic (aggression, fatigue, intense sensory seeking), so

this might be something to consider when retrying the NDF plus. Maybe it already

has silica in it though?

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What microsilica do you use, ?Sent from my iPhone

Hmmm. Yes, redistribution is what we are trying to avoid. We are not doing cilantro yet, but are having GREAT success with Chlorella. ALA was a no go for us because of acute metals detoxing stress. Now, we did run out of microsilica for a few days while doing chlorella and it was not a good thing. -Is the microsilica the binder that must be used with the chlorella to complete this process I believe?

That makes me wonder, when we do try ALA again, if I use the microsilica, if this will help the process. I still fundamentally accept the logic of getting the metals out of the gut first with gut specific chelators, but obviously I need to look into the issue of thiols in the chelators also. Such a complex issue. Thanks!!!!!!!

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I did/do every friday through monday. And I do it when I feel like it (which lately hasn't been at all) and I also do full weeks whenever I can (which is just ridiculously hard but I do it at least once a year and we've been doing AC chelation off and on for about 2.5 years now). You have to take as much time off as you spend on between rounds minimum. It's the sole reason why my son now has more variety in his diet and doesn't need a diaper at night anymore.

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Thats fantastic! I am so glad to hear that!

I`ve been told to give DMSA every 4 hour for 3 days, then 11 days off. Do this 10 weeks and then 10 weeks off. Do you do it like that too??

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To: mb12valtrex From: brinckerhoffjennifer@...Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 13:51:18 +0000Subject: Re: Cutlers protocol

My son is doing fantastic with this chelation protocol. He's in normal preschool right now, starting to write his name, playing with his peers. At one point he couldn't cross from sidewalk to grass, stimmed all day long. We've been at it for a year and a half and it has been the best intervention we have tried. jenib>> > Hi!> > > Can anyone please tell me about their experience with Cutlers protocol/ chelation with DMSA??> > I am thinking of it for my daugther. She has high mercury-levels. > > She is a 6 year old girl, good sleep,can speak(but not like other 6 years old) play with her things, smiles, and dont cry much anymore...but she dont show much interess in other children. She play alone. > > Can DMSA help??> > All the best> > Liv> > Norway>

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We use Biosil because it does not contain magnesium stearate and we found it on

sale online.

We have used jarrow, but it has the mag stear.

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, What is the problem when using supps containing magnesium stearate? Thanks,NavinaSubject: Re: Cutlers protocolTo: mb12valtrex Date: Thursday, November 3, 2011, 2:56 AM

We use Biosil because it does not contain magnesium stearate and we found it on sale online.

We have used jarrow, but it has the mag stear.

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