Guest guest Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 I think its all about jealousy, resentment, displaying domination and control, and little else. Its hostile, malicious, and sick behavior on the part of a parent toward her own child. Seems to me that the bpd/npd/Cluster B " Queen " mother wants to use/control her child's hair to gain attention for herself, in which case, her daughter is turned into an object and cast in the role of a prize show dog that gets groomed excessively, decked out and displayed for the purpose of competition. A " trophy daughter " instead of a " trophy wife " for nada. .... OR... the bpd " Witch " mother views her daughter as a rival sibling or a rival adult female intruding into *her* territory, instead of viewing her own daughter in a normal, protective, nurturing, motherly way, and so bpd mom feels wildly jealous of her daughter's beautiful hair, the newly-minted sexual attractiveness her daughter is showing and the admiring attention she is beginning to garner. So nada does what she can to destroy her competition, just short of murder or banishment. Sexual jealousy rears its ugly head, folks. Its close to the " Snow White " fairy tale in real life. Or perhaps its like my nada who saw no boundaries between herself and me, and considered me as her mini-me, her clone. I had to mirror her in order to be allowed to exist. I will repeat until my tongue stiffens (as Heathcliff pronounces) that such individuals have no business raising children alone and unsupervised. They're too mentally ill to understand or care about the emotional damage they're doing. -Annie > > > > " Hair Abuse " !! OMG!!! That's another part of it! > > > > I absolutely hated when my mother touched my hair, because she pulled, twisted, yanked, all the while screaming at me like the crazy woman that she is. When I was 10 she pulled out several chunks of hair. One of those never grew back and I've had a bald spot the size of a quarter for 50 years now. > > > > When I was 12 she took _pinking_ shears to my hair!! That, too, was a dreadful year. Everybody made fun of me. > > > > The final time- I was 18, but still living at home (remember, we weren't adults until 21) working full time (50 hours actually) and going to college 3 days a week. > > > > I worked in fast food and for the holiday party they closed early one night and the boss and his wife took the crew bowling. All the other kids got picked up, and of course, I was to walk home (about 2.5 miles). Up until then nobody at work knew I was walking home at 10 pm every night- but anyway, my boss gave me a ride home. > > > > It was 11:10 instead of the usual 10:45, so I was " late. " My mother was waiting inside our back door, scissors in hand, cornered me and started chopping. I had long hair that I braided for work; she chopped off the braids. > > > > I was so scared - I thought she was going to stab me to death, as she kept stabbing my neck as she cut my hair - she was screaming and ranting and wailing about me " being with a man " -- awful!! > > > > Then I had to figure out what to do with what was left of my hair for work- I could have just died. I was afraid nobody would believe me that she did it, because nobody believed me when I was younger, but this time they did. My boss's wife helped me find an apartment and encouraged me to move, which I did about 10 days later. > > > > wow. yeah, hair abuse. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 Cool! I will definitely check that out, thanks for the head's up! -Annie > > > > > > > > > > > > " Hair Abuse " !! OMG!!! That's another part of it! > > > > > > > > > > > > I absolutely hated when my mother touched my hair, because she pulled, twisted, yanked, all the while screaming at me like the crazy woman that she is. When I was 10 she pulled out several chunks of hair. One of those never grew back and I've had a bald spot the size of a quarter for 50 years now. > > > > > > > > > > > > When I was 12 she took _pinking_ shears to my hair!! That, too, was a dreadful year. Everybody made fun of me. > > > > > > > > > > > > The final time- I was 18, but still living at home (remember, we weren't adults until 21) working full time (50 hours actually) and going to college 3 days a week. > > > > > > > > > > > > I worked in fast food and for the holiday party they closed early one night and the boss and his wife took the crew bowling. All the other kids got picked up, and of course, I was to walk home (about 2.5 miles). Up until then nobody at work knew I was walking home at 10 pm every night- but anyway, my boss gave me a ride home. > > > > > > > > > > > > It was 11:10 instead of the usual 10:45, so I was " late. " My mother was waiting inside our back door, scissors in hand, cornered me and started chopping. I had long hair that I braided for work; she chopped off the braids. > > > > > > > > > > > > I was so scared - I thought she was going to stab me to death, as she kept stabbing my neck as she cut my hair - she was screaming and ranting and wailing about me " being with a man " -- awful!! > > > > > > > > > > > > Then I had to figure out what to do with what was left of my hair for work- I could have just died. I was afraid nobody would believe me that she did it, because nobody believed me when I was younger, but this time they did. My boss's wife helped me find an apartment and encouraged me to move, which I did about 10 days later. > > > > > > > > > > > > wow. yeah, hair abuse. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 Stuff like this helps explain for me the reason I'm so sensitive about getting my hair cut. When I was younger (like middle-high school age) I would be so stressed about getting my hair cut that I would just tie it up and leave it up for days without brushing it, trying to make it seem short so I wouldn't have to deal with it. When I did get it cut, if it didn't turn out perfectly like the magazines I would just about cry in the hairdressers shop. Then I'd feel guilty 'cause I thought the stylist's feeling were hurt (a message propagated by Nada, of course). I just couldn't win. I've grown out of that a lot, though. It doesn't stress me out immensely to cut it anymore. I do what *I* want with it and it's wonderful! Subject: Re: Haircuts To: WTOAdultChildren1 Date: Tuesday, August 23, 2011, 6:58 AM My nada wanted me to be a clone of herself as much as possible, which meant she wanted to cut off my ponytail that I loved when I was about 10 years old. All the girls my age had ponytails then, it was the fashion. I didn't want to lose my ponytail. So nada told me that I had big, ugly ears that stuck out and needed to be covered up, and that my hair was too thin and fine to wear in a ponytail, in an effort to convince me to change hairstyles. Calling me *ugly* was one of her best weapons. I really had no choice in the matter, and it was done. So... a trip to the hairdressers, and chop went the scissors. Then, surprise: nada made me get a permanent which made me look like a chrysanthemum, and then made me style my hair the way she wore hers. That meant sleeping in curlers. I HATED IT. The last thing I wanted was to look like my mother. I loved my ponytail, and it made me feel girly. I felt, well, castrated with short hair; at 9, it was the only feminine thing about me, I felt. So, I felt de-sexed, and shamed by my appearance. I didn't even recognize myself in the mirror. My nada cut me off from my sense of my own self when she cut my ponytail. Then, the cherry on top. Nada took me and my little Sister to get our formal photo-portraits made for our dad's office, and I just could not smile. I look like I am on the verge of tears in that photo, and nada kept it out on display in our home for, like, years and years after dad brought it home from his office. I guess she liked me looking sad, defeated, shamed, and completely under her control. Or maybe she just thought it was a great shot of herself. That's probably it; she didn't really care about how I looked in that picture, it was about how she looked. -Annie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2011 Report Share Posted August 24, 2011 I'll try to make this as short as possible, but I admit, since I'm a writer, that is a difficult task. My parents were married for eight years, and my dad wanted my hair kept long, which was fine with me, but when my parents divorced because my dad came out of the closet and my mom and another woman moved in together and long story short, they became a couple, so I had two sets of gay/lesbian parents. The woman, we'll call her " the dictator, " was just that...like Hitler or Stalin, only she hated men. They were the enemy, but for someone who hated men, she certainly wanted to be one. And she stole my identity by taking away my ruffled dresses, patent leather shoes and lace socks and gloves and hats and by cutting my hair. (Looking back, I'm 100% CERTAIN that the dictator had BPD. She was definitely the queen and the witch all rolled into one, never the other two, never at all. By the time I reached high school, I looked like I could be part of, " Future Lesbians of America, " if there was such a group. I was totally brain washed into this man hating, gun toting, self sufficient, never depend on a man type with an eat s*** and die attitude to be completely honest. And that's how I was until I got away... e > > > > Ok, this may seem like an odd topic, but when I first started researching BPD I read a few stories about some people's Nadas chopping off their hair when they were young. Did this happen to any of you? This happened to me a few times that I can remember. When I was little, I had fine, straight hair that was nice and thick. Nada would rip the hairbrush through my hair every morning until I was crying from the pain. Nada would curse my hair and scream at me. She dragged me to the hairdresser a couple of times, and cut my hair all off, once into a " Dorthy Hamill " and then a couple years later into a " shag " . Suffice it to say, I looked terrible. Just terrible. The thing is, My hair was not " out of control " . She just wouldn't brush it correctly. She would start at the roots and drag the brush hard down my head. In a way, I think she didn't want me to even look nice. I begged her to make me look like the other little girls in elementary school, but she refused to listen to me. What I was trying to say, was I wanted to look taken care of, like someone cared. The other little kids picked on me too for the way I looked, I can clearly remember telling a girl about my birthday presents and she said, " You are a liar. You don't have anything nice. Just look at you, you are POOR. " But at the time, I wasn't poor, I just wasn't looked after properly. > > > > Anyways, thanks for listening. It's kind of embarrassing to tell these stories, but I think you all understand on some level or another. > > > > Natalia > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2011 Report Share Posted August 24, 2011 So glad for you - I bet your hair looks mmmmaaarrrvvvelous!!! > > > Subject: Re: Haircuts > To: WTOAdultChildren1 > Date: Tuesday, August 23, 2011, 6:58 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My nada wanted me to be a clone of herself as much as possible, which meant she wanted to cut off my ponytail that I loved when I was about 10 years old. All the girls my age had ponytails then, it was the fashion. I didn't want to lose my ponytail. So nada told me that I had big, ugly ears that stuck out and needed to be covered up, and that my hair was too thin and fine to wear in a ponytail, in an effort to convince me to change hairstyles. Calling me *ugly* was one of her best weapons. I really had no choice in the matter, and it was done. > > > > So... a trip to the hairdressers, and chop went the scissors. Then, surprise: nada made me get a permanent which made me look like a chrysanthemum, and then made me style my hair the way she wore hers. That meant sleeping in curlers. I HATED IT. The last thing I wanted was to look like my mother. I loved my ponytail, and it made me feel girly. I felt, well, castrated with short hair; at 9, it was the only feminine thing about me, I felt. So, I felt de-sexed, and shamed by my appearance. I didn't even recognize myself in the mirror. My nada cut me off from my sense of my own self when she cut my ponytail. > > > > Then, the cherry on top. Nada took me and my little Sister to get our formal photo-portraits made for our dad's office, and I just could not smile. I look like I am on the verge of tears in that photo, and nada kept it out on display in our home for, like, years and years after dad brought it home from his office. > > > > I guess she liked me looking sad, defeated, shamed, and completely under her control. Or maybe she just thought it was a great shot of herself. That's probably it; she didn't really care about how I looked in that picture, it was about how she looked. > > > > -Annie > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2011 Report Share Posted August 24, 2011 It sounds like you have been through some pretty intense life experiences and grown a tremendous amount. Thank you for sharing. K > > > > > > Ok, this may seem like an odd topic, but when I first started researching BPD I read a few stories about some people's Nadas chopping off their hair when they were young. Did this happen to any of you? This happened to me a few times that I can remember. When I was little, I had fine, straight hair that was nice and thick. Nada would rip the hairbrush through my hair every morning until I was crying from the pain. Nada would curse my hair and scream at me. She dragged me to the hairdresser a couple of times, and cut my hair all off, once into a " Dorthy Hamill " and then a couple years later into a " shag " . Suffice it to say, I looked terrible. Just terrible. The thing is, My hair was not " out of control " . She just wouldn't brush it correctly. She would start at the roots and drag the brush hard down my head. In a way, I think she didn't want me to even look nice. I begged her to make me look like the other little girls in elementary school, but she refused to listen to me. What I was trying to say, was I wanted to look taken care of, like someone cared. The other little kids picked on me too for the way I looked, I can clearly remember telling a girl about my birthday presents and she said, " You are a liar. You don't have anything nice. Just look at you, you are POOR. " But at the time, I wasn't poor, I just wasn't looked after properly. > > > > > > Anyways, thanks for listening. It's kind of embarrassing to tell these stories, but I think you all understand on some level or another. > > > > > > Natalia > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2011 Report Share Posted August 24, 2011 OMG these stories are so shocking to me. As for the explanation - Annie's description of the witch seeing me as a sexual rival and so trying to destroy the competition - yep, that's my nada, day in day out, in a nutshell. When she acted nice I would become very suspicious, waiting for the knife to twist, or the secret mean girls style attack on my dignity, weight, appearance talent etc that was disguised as a compliment. And that's when she was nice. . . I'm so sorry you guys had to go through that. WOW - I'm so glad we survived. > ** > > > > It sounds like you have been through some pretty intense life experiences > and grown a tremendous amount. Thank you for sharing. > K > > > > > > > > > > Ok, this may seem like an odd topic, but when I first started > researching BPD I read a few stories about some people's Nadas chopping off > their hair when they were young. Did this happen to any of you? This > happened to me a few times that I can remember. When I was little, I had > fine, straight hair that was nice and thick. Nada would rip the hairbrush > through my hair every morning until I was crying from the pain. Nada would > curse my hair and scream at me. She dragged me to the hairdresser a couple > of times, and cut my hair all off, once into a " Dorthy Hamill " and then a > couple years later into a " shag " . Suffice it to say, I looked terrible. Just > terrible. The thing is, My hair was not " out of control " . She just wouldn't > brush it correctly. She would start at the roots and drag the brush hard > down my head. In a way, I think she didn't want me to even look nice. I > begged her to make me look like the other little girls in elementary school, > but she refused to listen to me. What I was trying to say, was I wanted to > look taken care of, like someone cared. The other little kids picked on me > too for the way I looked, I can clearly remember telling a girl about my > birthday presents and she said, " You are a liar. You don't have anything > nice. Just look at you, you are POOR. " But at the time, I wasn't poor, I > just wasn't looked after properly. > > > > > > > > Anyways, thanks for listening. It's kind of embarrassing to tell > these stories, but I think you all understand on some level or another. > > > > > > > > Natalia > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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