yipppeeeeee!!! (e-mail from WA mom on surfactants)

[Guest guest]

Just had to share I'm so excited to be able to pass you this report. I received

this e-mail from one of the moms in our WA group & have received permission to

post it up to you (when I asked her if I could send this to the group she said

if it helps another child like I've helped hers then I could post it up to the

group).

Background: This mom is a pediatric dr. We met last fall (actually from an

interaction off-list from this list...turned out she only lived about 10 min

from me ). At that time her son was on gfcf diet & probiotics. Her son @ that

time was basically non-verbal w/very little attension span & could be difficult

to manage. She saw one of our docs early this year, started MB12, some

anti-fungals including pau de'arco & probiotics, NDF Plus for chelation

(chlorella, cilantro, PolyFlor™ probiotics, and 18% grain neutral spirits as a

preservative, agaricus blazei mushroom, reishi mushroom, cordyceps mushroom,

milk thistle seeds and horsetail for drainage and organ support). She started on

the surfactant last spring after seeing the green/healthy Christmas tree in

April & being a dr. understands about rx surfactants. After meeting w/one of the

heads of Immusist she jumped on board with some in our WA group & started them.

She noticed some really good improvements but found his hand stimming/toe

walking kicking up. Going over her supplements I felt she needed more binders on

board so I gave her some of my BioPure Chlorella & some of my Alfalfa. She tried

them on her son & her son liked the Alfalfa but did not want the extra chlorella

(since she was already on some we just went w/adding the alfalfa). She told me

adding the additional binders made a big improvement to his overall better

demeanor + she saw a good reduction in his stimming.

At this point in time he is very verbal & interactory. He is a pleasure to be

around! I watched him & his brother a couple of weeks ago to help his mom get

some chores done...the boys were both such a pleasure & played well with both my

children. I could not be more proud of this family. I got tears reading her

e-mail...us moms have talked about how much difference the surfactants made to

help our children. Here's a copy of her e-mail:

" Re: yipppeeeeee!!!

had xxxx school conference tonight and for the first time i didnt leave holding

back the tears. u were and are right!!! the same teacher who made me so sad

last year and had me crying when she said she did not think xxxx would ever be

in mainstream classes has changed her mind now and it is her opinion that he

will eventually be out of special ed classes!! he is now the highest functioning

of the kids with autism in his preschool and i know that does not sound great

but he is acting like a peer model in his autism class. he is starting to have

interest in having a friend.

so thank you my friend. my son is a different person than he was when i met you

last year!! "

[Guest guest]

wah-hoo! I love love love to hear these stories. Good for him! Way to go, Little Guy!To: mb12valtrex Sent: Friday, November 4, 2011 2:09 AMSubject: yipppeeeeee!!! (e-mail from WA mom on surfactants)

Just had to share I'm so excited to be able to pass you this report. I received this e-mail from one of the moms in our WA group & have received permission to post it up to you (when I asked her if I could send this to the group she said if it helps another child like I've helped hers then I could post it up to the group).

Background: This mom is a pediatric dr. We met last fall (actually from an interaction off-list from this list...turned out she only lived about 10 min from me ). At that time her son was on gfcf diet & probiotics. Her son @ that time was basically non-verbal w/very little attension span & could be difficult to manage. She saw one of our docs early this year, started MB12, some anti-fungals including pau de'arco & probiotics, NDF Plus for chelation (chlorella, cilantro, PolyFlorâ„¢ probiotics, and 18% grain neutral spirits as a preservative, agaricus blazei mushroom, reishi mushroom, cordyceps mushroom, milk thistle seeds and horsetail for drainage and organ support). She started on the surfactant last spring after seeing the green/healthy Christmas tree in April & being a dr. understands about rx surfactants. After meeting w/one of the heads of Immusist she jumped on board with some in our WA group & started them. She noticed some

really good improvements but found his hand stimming/toe walking kicking up. Going over her supplements I felt she needed more binders on board so I gave her some of my BioPure Chlorella & some of my Alfalfa. She tried them on her son & her son liked the Alfalfa but did not want the extra chlorella (since she was already on some we just went w/adding the alfalfa). She told me adding the additional binders made a big improvement to his overall better demeanor + she saw a good reduction in his stimming.

At this point in time he is very verbal & interactory. He is a pleasure to be around! I watched him & his brother a couple of weeks ago to help his mom get some chores done...the boys were both such a pleasure & played well with both my children. I could not be more proud of this family. I got tears reading her e-mail...us moms have talked about how much difference the surfactants made to help our children. Here's a copy of her e-mail:

"Re: yipppeeeeee!!!

had xxxx school conference tonight and for the first time i didnt leave holding back the tears. u were and are right!!! the same teacher who made me so sad last year and had me crying when she said she did not think xxxx would ever be in mainstream classes has changed her mind now and it is her opinion that he will eventually be out of special ed classes!! he is now the highest functioning of the kids with autism in his preschool and i know that does not sound great but he is acting like a peer model in his autism class. he is starting to have interest in having a friend.

so thank you my friend. my son is a different person than he was when i met you last year!!"

[Guest guest]

In my family, we simply cannot do the artificial dyes that are in this product,

at least not at this point. Do you have any idea if they would ever make an

" allergen-free " formula that was free of the dyes?

Cathy

>

> Just had to share I'm so excited to be able to pass you this report. I

received this e-mail from one of the moms in our WA group & have received

permission to post it up to you (when I asked her if I could send this to the

group she said if it helps another child like I've helped hers then I could post

it up to the group).

> Background: This mom is a pediatric dr. We met last fall (actually from an

interaction off-list from this list...turned out she only lived about 10 min

from me ). At that time her son was on gfcf diet & probiotics. Her son @ that

time was basically non-verbal w/very little attension span & could be difficult

to manage. She saw one of our docs early this year, started MB12, some

anti-fungals including pau de'arco & probiotics, NDF Plus for chelation

(chlorella, cilantro, PolyFlor™ probiotics, and 18% grain neutral spirits as a

preservative, agaricus blazei mushroom, reishi mushroom, cordyceps mushroom,

milk thistle seeds and horsetail for drainage and organ support). She started on

the surfactant last spring after seeing the green/healthy Christmas tree in

April & being a dr. understands about rx surfactants. After meeting w/one of the

heads of Immusist she jumped on board with some in our WA group & started them.

She noticed some really good improvements but found his hand stimming/toe

walking kicking up. Going over her supplements I felt she needed more binders on

board so I gave her some of my BioPure Chlorella & some of my Alfalfa. She tried

them on her son & her son liked the Alfalfa but did not want the extra chlorella

(since she was already on some we just went w/adding the alfalfa). She told me

adding the additional binders made a big improvement to his overall better

demeanor + she saw a good reduction in his stimming.

> At this point in time he is very verbal & interactory. He is a pleasure to be

around! I watched him & his brother a couple of weeks ago to help his mom get

some chores done...the boys were both such a pleasure & played well with both my

children. I could not be more proud of this family. I got tears reading her

e-mail...us moms have talked about how much difference the surfactants made to

help our children. Here's a copy of her e-mail:

>

> " Re: yipppeeeeee!!!

> had xxxx school conference tonight and for the first time i didnt leave

holding back the tears. u were and are right!!! the same teacher who made me so

sad last year and had me crying when she said she did not think xxxx would ever

be in mainstream classes has changed her mind now and it is her opinion that he

will eventually be out of special ed classes!! he is now the highest functioning

of the kids with autism in his preschool and i know that does not sound great

but he is acting like a peer model in his autism class. he is starting to have

interest in having a friend.

> so thank you my friend. my son is a different person than he was when i met

you last year!! "

>

[Guest guest]

What product are you referring to that has surfactants?sallyTo: mb12valtrex Sent: Friday, November 4, 2011 7:50 AMSubject: Re: yipppeeeeee!!! (e-mail from WA mom on surfactants)

In my family, we simply cannot do the artificial dyes that are in this product, at least not at this point. Do you have any idea if they would ever make an "allergen-free" formula that was free of the dyes?

Cathy

>

> Just had to share I'm so excited to be able to pass you this report. I received this e-mail from one of the moms in our WA group & have received permission to post it up to you (when I asked her if I could send this to the group she said if it helps another child like I've helped hers then I could post it up to the group).

> Background: This mom is a pediatric dr. We met last fall (actually from an interaction off-list from this list...turned out she only lived about 10 min from me ). At that time her son was on gfcf diet & probiotics. Her son @ that time was basically non-verbal w/very little attension span & could be difficult to manage. She saw one of our docs early this year, started MB12, some anti-fungals including pau de'arco & probiotics, NDF Plus for chelation (chlorella, cilantro, PolyFlorâ„¢ probiotics, and 18% grain neutral spirits as a preservative, agaricus blazei mushroom, reishi mushroom, cordyceps mushroom, milk thistle seeds and horsetail for drainage and organ support). She started on the surfactant last spring after seeing the green/healthy Christmas tree in April & being a dr. understands about rx surfactants. After meeting w/one of the heads of Immusist she jumped on board with some in our WA group & started them. She noticed

some really good improvements but found his hand stimming/toe walking kicking up. Going over her supplements I felt she needed more binders on board so I gave her some of my BioPure Chlorella & some of my Alfalfa. She tried them on her son & her son liked the Alfalfa but did not want the extra chlorella (since she was already on some we just went w/adding the alfalfa). She told me adding the additional binders made a big improvement to his overall better demeanor + she saw a good reduction in his stimming.

> At this point in time he is very verbal & interactory. He is a pleasure to be around! I watched him & his brother a couple of weeks ago to help his mom get some chores done...the boys were both such a pleasure & played well with both my children. I could not be more proud of this family. I got tears reading her e-mail...us moms have talked about how much difference the surfactants made to help our children. Here's a copy of her e-mail:

>

> "Re: yipppeeeeee!!!

> had xxxx school conference tonight and for the first time i didnt leave holding back the tears. u were and are right!!! the same teacher who made me so sad last year and had me crying when she said she did not think xxxx would ever be in mainstream classes has changed her mind now and it is her opinion that he will eventually be out of special ed classes!! he is now the highest functioning of the kids with autism in his preschool and i know that does not sound great but he is acting like a peer model in his autism class. he is starting to have interest in having a friend.

> so thank you my friend. my son is a different person than he was when i met you last year!!"

>

[Guest guest]

We are in the same boat. Is there another brand? I am having a hard time

triangulating this.

> >

> > Just had to share I'm so excited to be able to pass you this report. I

received this e-mail from one of the moms in our WA group & have received

permission to post it up to you (when I asked her if I could send this to the

group she said if it helps another child like I've helped hers then I could post

it up to the group).

> > Background: This mom is a pediatric dr. We met last fall (actually from an

interaction off-list from this list...turned out she only lived about 10 min

from me ). At that time her son was on gfcf diet & probiotics. Her son @ that

time was basically non-verbal w/very little attension span & could be difficult

to manage. She saw one of our docs early this year, started MB12, some

anti-fungals including pau de'arco & probiotics, NDF Plus for chelation

(chlorella, cilantro, PolyFlor™ probiotics, and 18% grain neutral spirits as a

preservative, agaricus blazei mushroom, reishi mushroom, cordyceps mushroom,

milk thistle seeds and horsetail for drainage and organ support). She started on

the surfactant last spring after seeing the green/healthy Christmas tree in

April & being a dr. understands about rx surfactants. After meeting w/one of the

heads of Immusist she jumped on board with some in our WA group & started them.

She noticed some really good improvements but found his hand stimming/toe

walking kicking up. Going over her supplements I felt she needed more binders on

board so I gave her some of my BioPure Chlorella & some of my Alfalfa. She tried

them on her son & her son liked the Alfalfa but did not want the extra chlorella

(since she was already on some we just went w/adding the alfalfa). She told me

adding the additional binders made a big improvement to his overall better

demeanor + she saw a good reduction in his stimming.

> > At this point in time he is very verbal & interactory. He is a pleasure to

be around! I watched him & his brother a couple of weeks ago to help his mom get

some chores done...the boys were both such a pleasure & played well with both my

children. I could not be more proud of this family. I got tears reading her

e-mail...us moms have talked about how much difference the surfactants made to

help our children. Here's a copy of her e-mail:

> >

> > " Re: yipppeeeeee!!!

> > had xxxx school conference tonight and for the first time i didnt leave

holding back the tears. u were and are right!!! the same teacher who made me so

sad last year and had me crying when she said she did not think xxxx would ever

be in mainstream classes has changed her mind now and it is her opinion that he

will eventually be out of special ed classes!! he is now the highest functioning

of the kids with autism in his preschool and i know that does not sound great

but he is acting like a peer model in his autism class. he is starting to have

interest in having a friend.

> > so thank you my friend. my son is a different person than he was when i met

you last year!! "

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Can you share what product are we talking about here exactly?

Thanks

Pratima

> >

> > Just had to share I'm so excited to be able to pass you this report. I

received this e-mail from one of the moms in our WA group & have received

permission to post it up to you (when I asked her if I could send this to the

group she said if it helps another child like I've helped hers then I could post

it up to the group).

> > Background: This mom is a pediatric dr. We met last fall (actually from an

interaction off-list from this list...turned out she only lived about 10 min

from me ). At that time her son was on gfcf diet & probiotics. Her son @ that

time was basically non-verbal w/very little attension span & could be difficult

to manage. She saw one of our docs early this year, started MB12, some

anti-fungals including pau de'arco & probiotics, NDF Plus for chelation

(chlorella, cilantro, PolyFlor™ probiotics, and 18% grain neutral spirits as a

preservative, agaricus blazei mushroom, reishi mushroom, cordyceps mushroom,

milk thistle seeds and horsetail for drainage and organ support). She started on

the surfactant last spring after seeing the green/healthy Christmas tree in

April & being a dr. understands about rx surfactants. After meeting w/one of the

heads of Immusist she jumped on board with some in our WA group & started them.

She noticed some really good improvements but found his hand stimming/toe

walking kicking up. Going over her supplements I felt she needed more binders on

board so I gave her some of my BioPure Chlorella & some of my Alfalfa. She tried

them on her son & her son liked the Alfalfa but did not want the extra chlorella

(since she was already on some we just went w/adding the alfalfa). She told me

adding the additional binders made a big improvement to his overall better

demeanor + she saw a good reduction in his stimming.

> > At this point in time he is very verbal & interactory. He is a pleasure to

be around! I watched him & his brother a couple of weeks ago to help his mom get

some chores done...the boys were both such a pleasure & played well with both my

children. I could not be more proud of this family. I got tears reading her

e-mail...us moms have talked about how much difference the surfactants made to

help our children. Here's a copy of her e-mail:

> >

> > " Re: yipppeeeeee!!!

> > had xxxx school conference tonight and for the first time i didnt leave

holding back the tears. u were and are right!!! the same teacher who made me so

sad last year and had me crying when she said she did not think xxxx would ever

be in mainstream classes has changed her mind now and it is her opinion that he

will eventually be out of special ed classes!! he is now the highest functioning

of the kids with autism in his preschool and i know that does not sound great

but he is acting like a peer model in his autism class. he is starting to have

interest in having a friend.

> > so thank you my friend. my son is a different person than he was when i met

you last year!! "

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Immusist.

>

> What product are you referring to that has surfactants?

>

> sally

>

>

[Guest guest]

Immusist

> > >

> > > Just had to share I'm so excited to be able to pass you this report. I

received this e-mail from one of the moms in our WA group & have received

permission to post it up to you (when I asked her if I could send this to the

group she said if it helps another child like I've helped hers then I could post

it up to the group).

> > > Background: This mom is a pediatric dr. We met last fall (actually from an

interaction off-list from this list...turned out she only lived about 10 min

from me ). At that time her son was on gfcf diet & probiotics. Her son @ that

time was basically non-verbal w/very little attension span & could be difficult

to manage. She saw one of our docs early this year, started MB12, some

anti-fungals including pau de'arco & probiotics, NDF Plus for chelation

(chlorella, cilantro, PolyFlor™ probiotics, and 18% grain neutral spirits as a

preservative, agaricus blazei mushroom, reishi mushroom, cordyceps mushroom,

milk thistle seeds and horsetail for drainage and organ support). She started on

the surfactant last spring after seeing the green/healthy Christmas tree in

April & being a dr. understands about rx surfactants. After meeting w/one of the

heads of Immusist she jumped on board with some in our WA group & started them.

She noticed some really good improvements but found his hand stimming/toe

walking kicking up. Going over her supplements I felt she needed more binders on

board so I gave her some of my BioPure Chlorella & some of my Alfalfa. She tried

them on her son & her son liked the Alfalfa but did not want the extra chlorella

(since she was already on some we just went w/adding the alfalfa). She told me

adding the additional binders made a big improvement to his overall better

demeanor + she saw a good reduction in his stimming.

> > > At this point in time he is very verbal & interactory. He is a pleasure to

be around! I watched him & his brother a couple of weeks ago to help his mom get

some chores done...the boys were both such a pleasure & played well with both my

children. I could not be more proud of this family. I got tears reading her

e-mail...us moms have talked about how much difference the surfactants made to

help our children. Here's a copy of her e-mail:

> > >

> > > " Re: yipppeeeeee!!!

> > > had xxxx school conference tonight and for the first time i didnt leave

holding back the tears. u were and are right!!! the same teacher who made me so

sad last year and had me crying when she said she did not think xxxx would ever

be in mainstream classes has changed her mind now and it is her opinion that he

will eventually be out of special ed classes!! he is now the highest functioning

of the kids with autism in his preschool and i know that does not sound great

but he is acting like a peer model in his autism class. he is starting to have

interest in having a friend.

> > > so thank you my friend. my son is a different person than he was when i

met you last year!! "

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I get quite ill, and for days from artificial dyes, and this product

does not effect me like that. I did get small die-off, and only started

with one drop. I worked up to 15 drops twice a day and felt better than

I had in 12 years. I don't understand about the dye either in this

product; I used it because a friend of mine who knows the top docs told

me about it. I still waited, and then others reported good things from

it. I then used it. I know it cost a lot to risk worrying about the

dye, so I recommend seeing what others have to say. Sometimes, things

don't make sense. I always go by what people report that don't know

each other.

Love and prayers,

Heidi N

In my family, we simply cannot do the artificial dyes that are in this

product, at least not at this point. Do you have any idea if they would

ever make an " allergen-free " formula that was free of the dyes?

Cathy

[Guest guest]

I emailed Immusist months ago questioning the artificial colors. I think I remember the response being something along the lines of "considered safe by the FDA"

Not only that, but "surfactant blends" is way too vague for my comfort. What if one of those surfactants happened to be coconut (which is often used in edible surfactants) and there was an allergy? I'm glad people are finding success - but unless the company becomes more clear about their ingredients and is able to find a way to remove the artificials, I wouldn't even consider giving this to my kiddo. If I've learned anything at all, it's that we MUST pay attention to what we put into our childrens' bodies....

-Tammy

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Friday, November 4, 2011 11:01 AMSubject: Re: yipppeeeeee!!! (e-mail from WA mom on surfactants)

We are in the same boat. Is there another brand? I am having a hard time triangulating this.> >> > Just had to share I'm so excited to be able to pass you this report. I received this e-mail from one of the moms in our WA group & have

received permission to post it up to you (when I asked her if I could send this to the group she said if it helps another child like I've helped hers then I could post it up to the group).> > Background: This mom is a pediatric dr. We met last fall (actually from an interaction off-list from this list...turned out she only lived about 10 min from me ). At that time her son was on gfcf diet & probiotics. Her son @ that time was basically non-verbal w/very little attension span & could be difficult to manage. She saw one of our docs early this year, started MB12, some anti-fungals including pau de'arco & probiotics, NDF Plus for chelation (chlorella, cilantro, PolyFlorâ„¢ probiotics, and 18% grain neutral spirits as a preservative, agaricus blazei mushroom, reishi mushroom, cordyceps mushroom, milk thistle seeds and horsetail for drainage and organ support). She started on the surfactant last spring after seeing the green/healthy

Christmas tree in April & being a dr. understands about rx surfactants. After meeting w/one of the heads of Immusist she jumped on board with some in our WA group & started them. She noticed some really good improvements but found his hand stimming/toe walking kicking up. Going over her supplements I felt she needed more binders on board so I gave her some of my BioPure Chlorella & some of my Alfalfa. She tried them on her son & her son liked the Alfalfa but did not want the extra chlorella (since she was already on some we just went w/adding the alfalfa). She told me adding the additional binders made a big improvement to his overall better demeanor + she saw a good reduction in his stimming.> > At this point in time he is very verbal & interactory. He is a pleasure to be around! I watched him & his brother a couple of weeks ago to help his mom get some chores done...the boys were both such a pleasure & played well

with both my children. I could not be more proud of this family. I got tears reading her e-mail...us moms have talked about how much difference the surfactants made to help our children. Here's a copy of her e-mail:> > > > "Re: yipppeeeeee!!!> > had xxxx school conference tonight and for the first time i didnt leave holding back the tears. u were and are right!!! the same teacher who made me so sad last year and had me crying when she said she did not think xxxx would ever be in mainstream classes has changed her mind now and it is her opinion that he will eventually be out of special ed classes!! he is now the highest functioning of the kids with autism in his preschool and i know that does not sound great but he is acting like a peer model in his autism class. he is starting to have interest in having a friend. > > so thank you my friend. my son is a different person than he was when i met you last

year!!"> >>

[Guest guest]

Hi, Could someone please email me off-list with the name of the product and a link to where I could get it? Is it safe for two-year olds? How long does one have to use it for? Thank you very much, DebTo: mb12valtrex From: allrpossible@...Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2011 12:37:29 -0500Subject: Re: yipppeeeeee!!! (e-mail from WA mom on surfactants)

I get quite ill, and for days from artificial dyes, and this product

does not effect me like that. I did get small die-off, and only started

with one drop. I worked up to 15 drops twice a day and felt better than

I had in 12 years. I don't understand about the dye either in this

product; I used it because a friend of mine who knows the top docs told

me about it. I still waited, and then others reported good things from

it. I then used it. I know it cost a lot to risk worrying about the

dye, so I recommend seeing what others have to say. Sometimes, things

don't make sense. I always go by what people report that don't know

each other.

Love and prayers,

Heidi N

In my family, we simply cannot do the artificial dyes that are in this

product, at least not at this point. Do you have any idea if they would

ever make an "allergen-free" formula that was free of the dyes?

Cathy

[Guest guest]

Immusist. Rita could probably tell you more about her personal experience.

-Tammy

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Friday, November 4, 2011 1:57 PMSubject: RE: Re: yipppeeeeee!!! (e-mail from WA mom on surfactants)

Hi, Could someone please email me off-list with the name of the product and a link to where I could get it? Is it safe for two-year olds? How long does one have to use it for? Thank you very much, Deb

To: mb12valtrex From: allrpossible@...Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2011 12:37:29 -0500Subject: Re: yipppeeeeee!!! (e-mail from WA mom on surfactants)

I get quite ill, and for days from artificial dyes, and this product does not effect me like that. I did get small die-off, and only started with one drop. I worked up to 15 drops twice a day and felt better than I had in 12 years. I don't understand about the dye either in this product; I used it because a friend of mine who knows the top docs told me about it. I still waited, and then others reported good things from it. I then used it. I know it cost a lot to risk worrying about the dye, so I recommend seeing what others have to say. Sometimes, things don't make sense. I always go by what people report that don't know each other.Love and prayers,Heidi NIn my family, we simply cannot do the artificial dyes that are in this product, at least not at this point. Do you have any idea if they would ever make an "allergen-free" formula that was free of the

dyes?Cathy

[Guest guest]

How old is this child?

Thanks,

Alice

>

> Just had to share I'm so excited to be able to pass you this report. I

received this e-mail from one of the moms in our WA group & have received

permission to post it up to you (when I asked her if I could send this to the

group she said if it helps another child like I've helped hers then I could post

it up to the group).

> Background: This mom is a pediatric dr. We met last fall (actually from an

interaction off-list from this list...turned out she only lived about 10 min

from me ). At that time her son was on gfcf diet & probiotics. Her son @ that

time was basically non-verbal w/very little attension span & could be difficult

to manage. She saw one of our docs early this year, started MB12, some

anti-fungals including pau de'arco & probiotics, NDF Plus for chelation

(chlorella, cilantro, PolyFlor™ probiotics, and 18% grain neutral spirits as a

preservative, agaricus blazei mushroom, reishi mushroom, cordyceps mushroom,

milk thistle seeds and horsetail for drainage and organ support). She started on

the surfactant last spring after seeing the green/healthy Christmas tree in

April & being a dr. understands about rx surfactants. After meeting w/one of the

heads of Immusist she jumped on board with some in our WA group & started them.

She noticed some really good improvements but found his hand stimming/toe

walking kicking up. Going over her supplements I felt she needed more binders on

board so I gave her some of my BioPure Chlorella & some of my Alfalfa. She tried

them on her son & her son liked the Alfalfa but did not want the extra chlorella

(since she was already on some we just went w/adding the alfalfa). She told me

adding the additional binders made a big improvement to his overall better

demeanor + she saw a good reduction in his stimming.

> At this point in time he is very verbal & interactory. He is a pleasure to be

around! I watched him & his brother a couple of weeks ago to help his mom get

some chores done...the boys were both such a pleasure & played well with both my

children. I could not be more proud of this family. I got tears reading her

e-mail...us moms have talked about how much difference the surfactants made to

help our children. Here's a copy of her e-mail:

>

> " Re: yipppeeeeee!!!

> had xxxx school conference tonight and for the first time i didnt leave

holding back the tears. u were and are right!!! the same teacher who made me so

sad last year and had me crying when she said she did not think xxxx would ever

be in mainstream classes has changed her mind now and it is her opinion that he

will eventually be out of special ed classes!! he is now the highest functioning

of the kids with autism in his preschool and i know that does not sound great

but he is acting like a peer model in his autism class. he is starting to have

interest in having a friend.

> so thank you my friend. my son is a different person than he was when i met

you last year!! "

>

[Guest guest]

This child was 3, he's now 4.

My son is 13, he was 12 when starting it.

The newest boy in our WA group is 5, he's non-verbal...per recent comments from

his mom at 2 weeks on the surfactants his attention span has dramatically

increased, he's now attentive to his teacher & starting to mouth his 1st words

(his teacher has also commented about his change).

The Immusist is considered a whole food & is safe for babies, pregnant & nursing

mothers.

Rita

> >

> > Just had to share I'm so excited to be able to pass you this report. I

received this e-mail from one of the moms in our WA group & have received

permission to post it up to you (when I asked her if I could send this to the

group she said if it helps another child like I've helped hers then I could post

it up to the group).

> > Background: This mom is a pediatric dr. We met last fall (actually from an

interaction off-list from this list...turned out she only lived about 10 min

from me ). At that time her son was on gfcf diet & probiotics. Her son @ that

time was basically non-verbal w/very little attension span & could be difficult

to manage. She saw one of our docs early this year, started MB12, some

anti-fungals including pau de'arco & probiotics, NDF Plus for chelation

(chlorella, cilantro, PolyFlor™ probiotics, and 18% grain neutral spirits as a

preservative, agaricus blazei mushroom, reishi mushroom, cordyceps mushroom,

milk thistle seeds and horsetail for drainage and organ support). She started on

the surfactant last spring after seeing the green/healthy Christmas tree in

April & being a dr. understands about rx surfactants. After meeting w/one of the

heads of Immusist she jumped on board with some in our WA group & started them.

She noticed some really good improvements but found his hand stimming/toe

walking kicking up. Going over her supplements I felt she needed more binders on

board so I gave her some of my BioPure Chlorella & some of my Alfalfa. She tried

them on her son & her son liked the Alfalfa but did not want the extra chlorella

(since she was already on some we just went w/adding the alfalfa). She told me

adding the additional binders made a big improvement to his overall better

demeanor + she saw a good reduction in his stimming.

> > At this point in time he is very verbal & interactory. He is a pleasure to

be around! I watched him & his brother a couple of weeks ago to help his mom get

some chores done...the boys were both such a pleasure & played well with both my

children. I could not be more proud of this family. I got tears reading her

e-mail...us moms have talked about how much difference the surfactants made to

help our children. Here's a copy of her e-mail:

> >

> > " Re: yipppeeeeee!!!

> > had xxxx school conference tonight and for the first time i didnt leave

holding back the tears. u were and are right!!! the same teacher who made me so

sad last year and had me crying when she said she did not think xxxx would ever

be in mainstream classes has changed her mind now and it is her opinion that he

will eventually be out of special ed classes!! he is now the highest functioning

of the kids with autism in his preschool and i know that does not sound great

but he is acting like a peer model in his autism class. he is starting to have

interest in having a friend.

> > so thank you my friend. my son is a different person than he was when i met

you last year!! "

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Can you please tell me where to get surfactants?ThanksSubject: Re: yipppeeeeee!!! (e-mail from WA mom on surfactants)To: mb12valtrex Received: Saturday, 5 November, 2011, 9:26 AM

This child was 3, he's now 4.

My son is 13, he was 12 when starting it.

The newest boy in our WA group is 5, he's non-verbal...per recent comments from his mom at 2 weeks on the surfactants his attention span has dramatically increased, he's now attentive to his teacher & starting to mouth his 1st words (his teacher has also commented about his change).

The Immusist is considered a whole food & is safe for babies, pregnant & nursing mothers.

Rita

> >

> > Just had to share I'm so excited to be able to pass you this report. I received this e-mail from one of the moms in our WA group & have received permission to post it up to you (when I asked her if I could send this to the group she said if it helps another child like I've helped hers then I could post it up to the group).

> > Background: This mom is a pediatric dr. We met last fall (actually from an interaction off-list from this list...turned out she only lived about 10 min from me ). At that time her son was on gfcf diet & probiotics. Her son @ that time was basically non-verbal w/very little attension span & could be difficult to manage. She saw one of our docs early this year, started MB12, some anti-fungals including pau de'arco & probiotics, NDF Plus for chelation (chlorella, cilantro, PolyFlorâ„¢ probiotics, and 18% grain neutral spirits as a preservative, agaricus blazei mushroom, reishi mushroom, cordyceps mushroom, milk thistle seeds and horsetail for drainage and organ support). She started on the surfactant last spring after seeing the green/healthy Christmas tree in April & being a dr. understands about rx surfactants. After meeting w/one of the heads of Immusist she jumped on board with some in our WA group & started them. She

noticed some really good improvements but found his hand stimming/toe walking kicking up. Going over her supplements I felt she needed more binders on board so I gave her some of my BioPure Chlorella & some of my Alfalfa. She tried them on her son & her son liked the Alfalfa but did not want the extra chlorella (since she was already on some we just went w/adding the alfalfa). She told me adding the additional binders made a big improvement to his overall better demeanor + she saw a good reduction in his stimming.

> > At this point in time he is very verbal & interactory. He is a pleasure to be around! I watched him & his brother a couple of weeks ago to help his mom get some chores done...the boys were both such a pleasure & played well with both my children. I could not be more proud of this family. I got tears reading her e-mail...us moms have talked about how much difference the surfactants made to help our children. Here's a copy of her e-mail:

> >

> > "Re: yipppeeeeee!!!

> > had xxxx school conference tonight and for the first time i didnt leave holding back the tears. u were and are right!!! the same teacher who made me so sad last year and had me crying when she said she did not think xxxx would ever be in mainstream classes has changed her mind now and it is her opinion that he will eventually be out of special ed classes!! he is now the highest functioning of the kids with autism in his preschool and i know that does not sound great but he is acting like a peer model in his autism class. he is starting to have interest in having a friend.

> > so thank you my friend. my son is a different person than he was when i met you last year!!"

> >

>

[Guest guest]

As a whole food it is very safe for any age including babies, pregnant & nursing

moms. In the rx realm surfactants are administered to premature babies to

increase their survival rate.

The surfactant that I have researched & my family has been using for 1 year,

here's a link to it:

http://immusist.com/

Having been on strict special diets for 7 years now...my daughter (9) has been 7

years recovered from asthma & my son is almost recovered(he's 13...we started

biomedical recovery when he was 6yo)....most can not tell.

You use it for as long as you feel you need to, it's a whole food with no

adverse side effects.

Blessings,

Rita

>

> Immusist.   Rita could probably tell you more about her personal experience.

>  

> -Tammy

>

>

> To: mb12valtrex

> Sent: Friday, November 4, 2011 1:57 PM

> Subject: RE: Re: yipppeeeeee!!! (e-mail from WA mom on

surfactants)

>

>

>  

>

> Hi,

>

> Could someone please email me off-list with the name of the product and a link

to where I could get it? Is it safe for two-year olds? How long does one have to

use it for?

>

> Thank you very much,

>

> Deb

>

>

> To: mb12valtrex

> From: allrpossible@...

> Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2011 12:37:29 -0500

> Subject: Re: yipppeeeeee!!! (e-mail from WA mom on surfactants)

>

>  

> I get quite ill, and for days from artificial dyes, and this product

> does not effect me like that. I did get small die-off, and only started

> with one drop. I worked up to 15 drops twice a day and felt better than

> I had in 12 years. I don't understand about the dye either in this

> product; I used it because a friend of mine who knows the top docs told

> me about it. I still waited, and then others reported good things from

> it. I then used it. I know it cost a lot to risk worrying about the

> dye, so I recommend seeing what others have to say. Sometimes, things

> don't make sense. I always go by what people report that don't know

> each other.

>

> Love and prayers,

>

> Heidi N

>

> In my family, we simply cannot do the artificial dyes that are in this

> product, at least not at this point. Do you have any idea if they would

> ever make an " allergen-free " formula that was free of the dyes?

>

> Cathy

>

[Guest guest]

fyi....Just got off the phone w/the newest boys mom, he's 5 & doing great on

it....we're just starting to add binders for him. The dose she's using is:

started on 2 drops 1x day

after a few days increased to 2drops 2x day

after a few days increased to 3 drops 2x day & has been holding for 2-3 weeks

now.

She just reported this last week he has for the 1st time started

playing/interacting with his sister (she started crying @ this point) & has just

said his 1st spontaneous word (more).

With a DAN dr she's been on special diets & anti-fungals for over a year ( &

still is). Adding the Immusist is what has made the biggest difference in a

short amount of time.

Blessings,

Rita

> > >

> > > Just had to share I'm so excited to be able to pass you this report. I

received this e-mail from one of the moms in our WA group & have received

permission to post it up to you (when I asked her if I could send this to the

group she said if it helps another child like I've helped hers then I could post

it up to the group).

> > > Background: This mom is a pediatric dr. We met last fall (actually from an

interaction off-list from this list...turned out she only lived about 10 min

from me ). At that time her son was on gfcf diet & probiotics. Her son @ that

time was basically non-verbal w/very little attension span & could be difficult

to manage. She saw one of our docs early this year, started MB12, some

anti-fungals including pau de'arco & probiotics, NDF Plus for chelation

(chlorella, cilantro, PolyFlor™ probiotics, and 18% grain neutral spirits as a

preservative, agaricus blazei mushroom, reishi mushroom, cordyceps mushroom,

milk thistle seeds and horsetail for drainage and organ support). She started on

the surfactant last spring after seeing the green/healthy Christmas tree in

April & being a dr. understands about rx surfactants. After meeting w/one of the

heads of Immusist she jumped on board with some in our WA group & started them.

She noticed some really good improvements but found his hand stimming/toe

walking kicking up. Going over her supplements I felt she needed more binders on

board so I gave her some of my BioPure Chlorella & some of my Alfalfa. She tried

them on her son & her son liked the Alfalfa but did not want the extra chlorella

(since she was already on some we just went w/adding the alfalfa). She told me

adding the additional binders made a big improvement to his overall better

demeanor + she saw a good reduction in his stimming.

> > > At this point in time he is very verbal & interactory. He is a pleasure to

be around! I watched him & his brother a couple of weeks ago to help his mom get

some chores done...the boys were both such a pleasure & played well with both my

children. I could not be more proud of this family. I got tears reading her

e-mail...us moms have talked about how much difference the surfactants made to

help our children. Here's a copy of her e-mail:

> > >

> > > " Re: yipppeeeeee!!!

> > > had xxxx school conference tonight and for the first time i didnt leave

holding back the tears. u were and are right!!! the same teacher who made me so

sad last year and had me crying when she said she did not think xxxx would ever

be in mainstream classes has changed her mind now and it is her opinion that he

will eventually be out of special ed classes!! he is now the highest functioning

of the kids with autism in his preschool and i know that does not sound great

but he is acting like a peer model in his autism class. he is starting to have

interest in having a friend.

> > > so thank you my friend. my son is a different person than he was when i

met you last year!! "

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Can you please tell me where to get surfactants?Thanks

[Guest guest]

As always, I value your input & I could not agree more about paying attension to

what is given to my children. The dye's are all natural. Even though many of us

in WA have been using it on our sensitive children with no adverse side effects,

because of requests from me & several on the lists I have been told they are

planning on reformulating it to meet our requests.

Regarding paying attension to what is given to my child, because I see a doctor

highly trained in Dr Klinghardt's ART. Everything I use is ART tested. Because

of this I personally have very few negative reactions to anything I've used on

my recovering son. My son & several that I personally know have ART tested very

well on this product.

Rita

> > >

> > > Just had to share I'm so excited to be able to pass you this report. I

received this e-mail from one of the moms in our WA group & have received

permission to post it up to you (when I asked her if I could send this to the

group she said if it helps another child like I've helped hers then I could post

it up to the group).

> > > Background: This mom is a pediatric dr. We met last fall (actually from an

interaction off-list from this list...turned out she only lived about 10 min

from me ). At that time her son was on gfcf diet & probiotics. Her son @ that

time was basically non-verbal w/very little attension span & could be difficult

to manage. She saw one of our docs early this year, started MB12, some

anti-fungals including pau de'arco & probiotics, NDF Plus for chelation

(chlorella, cilantro, PolyFlorâ„¢ probiotics, and 18% grain neutral spirits as a

preservative, agaricus blazei mushroom, reishi mushroom, cordyceps mushroom,

milk thistle seeds and horsetail for drainage and organ support). She started on

the surfactant last spring after seeing the green/healthy Christmas tree in

April & being a dr. understands about rx surfactants. After meeting w/one of the

heads of Immusist she jumped on board with some in our WA group & started them.

She noticed some really good

> improvements but found his hand stimming/toe walking kicking up. Going over

her supplements I felt she needed more binders on board so I gave her some of my

BioPure Chlorella & some of my Alfalfa. She tried them on her son & her son

liked the Alfalfa but did not want the extra chlorella (since she was already on

some we just went w/adding the alfalfa). She told me adding the additional

binders made a big improvement to his overall better demeanor + she saw a good

reduction in his stimming.

> > > At this point in time he is very verbal & interactory. He is a pleasure to

be around! I watched him & his brother a couple of weeks ago to help his mom get

some chores done...the boys were both such a pleasure & played well with both my

children. I could not be more proud of this family. I got tears reading her

e-mail...us moms have talked about how much difference the surfactants made to

help our children. Here's a copy of her e-mail:

> > >

> > > " Re: yipppeeeeee!!!

> > > had xxxx school conference tonight and for the first time i didnt leave

holding back the tears. u were and are right!!! the same teacher who made me so

sad last year and had me crying when she said she did not think xxxx would ever

be in mainstream classes has changed her mind now and it is her opinion that he

will eventually be out of special ed classes!! he is now the highest functioning

of the kids with autism in his preschool and i know that does not sound great

but he is acting like a peer model in his autism class. he is starting to have

interest in having a friend.

> > > so thank you my friend. my son is a different person than he was when i

met you last year!! "

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

http://immusist.com/

>

> Can you please tell me where to get surfactants?Thanks

>

[Guest guest]

I'm sorry, Rita, but I thought this was the product you were referring to:

http://www.immusist.com/immusist.html

If it isn't, then which product do you use? If it is, then the colors are not

all natural because they are FD & C Red #40 and Blue #1.

Thanks,

Cathy

> > > >

> > > > Just had to share I'm so excited to be able to pass you this report. I

received this e-mail from one of the moms in our WA group & have received

permission to post it up to you (when I asked her if I could send this to the

group she said if it helps another child like I've helped hers then I could post

it up to the group).

> > > > Background: This mom is a pediatric dr. We met last fall (actually from

an interaction off-list from this list...turned out she only lived about 10 min

from me ). At that time her son was on gfcf diet & probiotics. Her son @ that

time was basically non-verbal w/very little attension span & could be difficult

to manage. She saw one of our docs early this year, started MB12, some

anti-fungals including pau de'arco & probiotics, NDF Plus for chelation

(chlorella, cilantro, PolyFlorâ„¢ probiotics, and 18% grain neutral spirits as a

preservative, agaricus blazei mushroom, reishi mushroom, cordyceps mushroom,

milk thistle seeds and horsetail for drainage and organ support). She started on

the surfactant last spring after seeing the green/healthy Christmas tree in

April & being a dr. understands about rx surfactants. After meeting w/one of the

heads of Immusist she jumped on board with some in our WA group & started them.

She noticed some really good

> > improvements but found his hand stimming/toe walking kicking up. Going over

her supplements I felt she needed more binders on board so I gave her some of my

BioPure Chlorella & some of my Alfalfa. She tried them on her son & her son

liked the Alfalfa but did not want the extra chlorella (since she was already on

some we just went w/adding the alfalfa). She told me adding the additional

binders made a big improvement to his overall better demeanor + she saw a good

reduction in his stimming.

> > > > At this point in time he is very verbal & interactory. He is a pleasure

to be around! I watched him & his brother a couple of weeks ago to help his mom

get some chores done...the boys were both such a pleasure & played well with

both my children. I could not be more proud of this family. I got tears reading

her e-mail...us moms have talked about how much difference the surfactants made

to help our children. Here's a copy of her e-mail:

> > > >

> > > > " Re: yipppeeeeee!!!

> > > > had xxxx school conference tonight and for the first time i didnt leave

holding back the tears. u were and are right!!! the same teacher who made me so

sad last year and had me crying when she said she did not think xxxx would ever

be in mainstream classes has changed her mind now and it is her opinion that he

will eventually be out of special ed classes!! he is now the highest functioning

of the kids with autism in his preschool and i know that does not sound great

but he is acting like a peer model in his autism class. he is starting to have

interest in having a friend.

> > > > so thank you my friend. my son is a different person than he was when i

met you last year!! "

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

The dyes and the ascorbic acid (assuming its corn derived) count us out.

Thanks,

Alice

> >

> > Can you please tell me where to get surfactants?Thanks

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Could you please share the amount, type and brand name of binders that this five

year old is taking along with the Immusist? From all I have read, it seems very

important to have the correct binders on board. Also, do you give the binders

at the same time as the Immusist or hours after? Thank you.

> > >

> > > Can you please tell me where to get surfactants?Thanks

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I'm sorry. artificial Blue 1 is made from petroleum, perhaps this is what you mean by " natural. " Please read up on food dye:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brilliant_Blue_FCF

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_coloringThe federal govt (USA) allows colors in foods that most of Europe has banned. Many of these colorings have lead in them, yes in minute amounts...

but still!There is no reason for a " health food " to have artificial colors.I am glad that people are improving with it. I'll wait for the dye-free version.

 

As always, I value your input & I could not agree more about paying attension to what is given to my children. The dye's are all natural. Even though many of us in WA have been using it on our sensitive children with no adverse side effects, because of requests from me & several on the lists I have been told they are planning on reformulating it to meet our requests.

Regarding paying attension to what is given to my child, because I see a doctor highly trained in Dr Klinghardt's ART. Everything I use is ART tested. Because of this I personally have very few negative reactions to anything I've used on my recovering son. My son & several that I personally know have ART tested very well on this product.

Rita-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

[Guest guest]

OMG !!! Preparing to eat crow LOLI just read this about blue dye:http://articles.cnn.com/2009-07-28/health/spinal.injury.blue.dye_1_spinal-cord-atp-spine?_s=PM:HEALTH

 

Just had to share I'm so excited to be able to pass you this report. I received this e-mail from one of the moms in our WA group & have received permission to post it up to you (when I asked her if I could send this to the group she said if it helps another child like I've helped hers then I could post it up to the group).

Background: This mom is a pediatric dr. We met last fall (actually from an interaction off-list from this list...turned out she only lived about 10 min from me ). At that time her son was on gfcf diet & probiotics. Her son @ that time was basically non-verbal w/very little attension span & could be difficult to manage. She saw one of our docs early this year, started MB12, some anti-fungals including pau de'arco & probiotics, NDF Plus for chelation (chlorella, cilantro, PolyFlor™ probiotics, and 18% grain neutral spirits as a preservative, agaricus blazei mushroom, reishi mushroom, cordyceps mushroom, milk thistle seeds and horsetail for drainage and organ support). She started on the surfactant last spring after seeing the green/healthy Christmas tree in April & being a dr. understands about rx surfactants. After meeting w/one of the heads of Immusist she jumped on board with some in our WA group & started them. She noticed some really good improvements but found his hand stimming/toe walking kicking up. Going over her supplements I felt she needed more binders on board so I gave her some of my BioPure Chlorella & some of my Alfalfa. She tried them on her son & her son liked the Alfalfa but did not want the extra chlorella (since she was already on some we just went w/adding the alfalfa). She told me adding the additional binders made a big improvement to his overall better demeanor + she saw a good reduction in his stimming.

At this point in time he is very verbal & interactory. He is a pleasure to be around! I watched him & his brother a couple of weeks ago to help his mom get some chores done...the boys were both such a pleasure & played well with both my children. I could not be more proud of this family. I got tears reading her e-mail...us moms have talked about how much difference the surfactants made to help our children. Here's a copy of her e-mail:

" Re: yipppeeeeee!!!

had xxxx school conference tonight and for the first time i didnt leave holding back the tears. u were and are right!!! the same teacher who made me so sad last year and had me crying when she said she did not think xxxx would ever be in mainstream classes has changed her mind now and it is her opinion that he will eventually be out of special ed classes!! he is now the highest functioning of the kids with autism in his preschool and i know that does not sound great but he is acting like a peer model in his autism class. he is starting to have interest in having a friend.

so thank you my friend. my son is a different person than he was when i met you last year!! "

-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.