Re: OT someone needs to tell me how the F*** this works!

[Guest guest]

OK. I now understand HOW it works, but not the mathematical " why " it works.

Mathematicians, please?

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> This is strange, eerie, and impossible.

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> http://www.cyberglass.co.uk/FlashEx/mindreader.html

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> Jacquie

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[Guest guest]

>> So there are little sprites in my computer who can read my mind,

> creatures who are apparently fish mammals but are NEVER caught or

> seen coming up for air, and tiny people with wings incapable of

> supporting their body mass... >>

Nah, but there's something nice about *not* knowing the trick...it's

like when you find out how they " cut a lady in half " ...the magic is

gone--so what's the point?

Okay, a glimpse into my (possibly warped) mind...when I was a kid,

there was a house on the way to school that I called " the fairy

house " ...I *honestly* believed that fairies lived there, because of

the way it looked. Even after I found out who did live there (a boy

in my class, fer cryin' out loud), I could never let go of the idea.

I suspect that if I went by that house today, those same feelings

would be there.

I DO understand in my head that things like that can't possibly

exist...but it's such a lovely idea, you know? There's a part of me

that really likes to get lost in those things...part of why I love

books like " The Chronicles of Narnia " and " The Lord of the

Rings " ...and one reason I can still read Beatrix Potter...and ENJOY

it!

There's enough cold, hard reality in my world.

Raena

Raena

[Guest guest]

> Are you looking for the mathematical formula to figure out all the

possible

> answers, or what?

Nope, 0 or a multiple of 9 was all I needed. :-) I knew the only symbol

that could come up changed and that it was only beside the only possible

answers each time, but I didn't know what made those particular numbers the

right answers.

THANK YOU!

Jacquie

[Guest guest]

> You're welcome! =) Yay me! <dance> <dance>

>

> I know how very, very much not knowing things like that bothers me. I

> wasn't sure what you meant by understanding how it worked but not why...

Here's an ego boost for ya, Sara -- the people who sent it to me said it

usually takes about 20 minutes to figure it out. I tried for ten and got

half the answer; you tried for what - 3? - and figured it out.

Brilliant girl!

Jacquie

[Guest guest]

> I *still* don't understand exactly how it works.

>

Okay. It shows all the " possible " answers to the side, with their symbols.

But with the formula they give you, NOT all those answers are possible.

I started getting it when I started just randomly thinking of a number

instead of doing the formula, and 50% of the time the wrong symbol appeared.

So I knew it was rigged *somehow*. So then I just kept clicking and

watching the symbols move to different numbers, and noticed that certain

numbers always had the same symbols beside them.

I couldn't get further than that, so I called for help, and Sara discovered

that the numbers with the 'correct' symbols beside them were either 0s of

multiples of 9 -- meaning that the answer to the formula always had to be a

0 or a multiple of 9.

Does that explain it?

Jacquie

[Guest guest]

> LOL...Do you two have any idea how totally fascinating it is to

> be " listening in " on this conversation?

LOL!

Announcer's voice: " What you have just witnessed is a typical conversation

between two people with Asperger's Syndrome. "

Jacquie

[Guest guest]

!

> But .... why does it always randomly pick the same one I'm thinking of

> when I actually do the formula??

Because the SAME symbol each time is given to ALL possible answers to the

formula, so no matter what answer you get, it's the right one.

Jacquie

[Guest guest]

> > But .... why does it always randomly pick the same one I'm thinking of

> > when I actually do the formula??

>

> yeah...

> this is weird.

> Sissi

Not weird! Clever math presented in a new and startling way! We're just

used to seeing something like that written out in a different format.

It's like all of those math tricks when you start out with some random

number, do this and that to it, and end up with your original number

again -- or one particular one.

This one is just BRILLIANTLY presented.

Jacquie

[Guest guest]

> Untrue, because I've done the formula and ended up with different

> symbols.

True, because the symbols reset every time you click try again. So if there

was a circle beside 9 and you clicked and got a circle, the NEXT time you

clicked try again, there would be a wave beside 9 and you'd click and get a

wave.

Jacquie

[Guest guest]

Very rarely do I like fantasy either. I prefer end of the world sagas, of which

" Swan Song " is one of my favorites. I enjoyed Ender's Game very much as well,

although Card's other books don't send me either.

Maggie

[Guest guest]

> Perhaps this isn't making sense...and I truly hope that it isn't

> offensive

Not offensive at all.

I hope this won't be, either: How can you NOT care how something works? I

mean, you really could just turn away from it with a shrug and think,

'neat'??????????

It amazes ME that there are people out there who DON'T analyze every little

thing, breaking it down and examining it minutely, unsatisified until they

understand exactly what it is, what it does, and how it works!

The most oft-repeated thing people say to me: " You over-analyze

everything. "

Yeah, AND? Doesn't everyone?

Guess not! :-P

(btw, I envy those who don't, but that's a whole 'nother post)

Jacquie

-who was HORRIFIED when all her friends, frustrated, just took the stickers

off their Rubik's Cubes and put them back in the 'solved' pattern!

[Guest guest]

> Well, first there's Jacquie's header--she is obviously frustrated

> that she *can't* figure the thing out. Then you come on almost

> instantly and start talking about this math pattern as if it was SO

> obvious...to which she casually replies, that yeah, she saw the first

> part, etc...then the conversation moves on to here's the formula and

> this part is random, so that was a bit tricky, and so on...you're

> both brilliant mathematically, and apparently haven't noticed yet

> that the rest of the world isn't.

I tend to forget the rest of the world doesn't think the way I do.

OMG, I HAVE NO THEORY OF MIND!!!!!

LOL

Jacquie

[Guest guest]

> Called Enrique over. Said to him, " All the Aspies seem to understand how

> this works fast, but the NT's do not. " " Okay, " he says, " I'll look at it. "

>

> Maybe two minutes? Maybe less before he understood it too.

>

> Fine Aspie minds.

Inspired by this, I got Marc to take 'the test' -- and he didn't get it!

Which is VERY odd, because HE is the engineer and *I* could barely pass

math.

But you know, I took an 'abilities' test and it came back tht i have strong

numerical ability and love patterns. I guess tht has little to do with

simple 3-digit multiplication and division. (?)

Jacquie

[Guest guest]

> Um...yeah? Actually, I LIKE things like that to stay

> unexplained...feeds that part of me that still wants to believe in

> Santa, mermaids, and fairies....

OK. Hmmm.

So there are little sprites in my computer who can read my mind, creatures

who are apparently fish mammals but are NEVER caught or seen coming up for

air, and tiny people with wings incapable of supporting their body mass...

Nope, can't do it.

Not making fun; I just decided to write out all that crossed my mind when I

read your line there!

LOL

Another thing that made me laugh as I read this: (but not at YOU) For the

last four years, I have bought the same kind of calendar for my kitchen. It

is called " Lady Cottington's Pressed Fairies " calendar, and each page has a

fairy on it, squished and splatted as if she'd been smucked between the

pages of a book. The pale abstract fairy guts are on the facing page (where

the dates are). I LOVE these calendars; they tickle me to no end. :-D I

have had some pages from previous years mounted and framed.

Twisted, hunh?

Jacquie

[Guest guest]

> Sara and Jacquie,

> I, like Raena, found the site interesting, but had absolutely no

> curiousity about how it worked. Just figured it was beyond

> me...While I have a great mind for words, numbers do not fascinate me

> at all.

I wouldn't say numbers fascinate me. I just need to know why something

works!

Jacquie

[Guest guest]

> I DO understand in my head that things like that can't possibly

> exist...but it's such a lovely idea, you know? There's a part of me

> that really likes to get lost in those things...part of why I love

> books like " The Chronicles of Narnia " and " The Lord of the

> Rings " ...and one reason I can still read Beatrix Potter...and ENJOY

> it!

That really caught my attention, because I CAN'T read fantasy. I just

CAN'T. The only reason I go to see TLOTR movies is for the spectacular

cinematography -- did you know I left the theatre during The Two Towers for

about 30 minutes because I was so incredibly bored? LOL.

I prefer hard SF. Space travel, alien contact, the apocalypse... terse

writing that presents itself as reality and doesn't contain anything to

tickle your imagination or your fancy. Orson Card's 'Ender's Game' is

one of my FAVORITE books of all time, but I CANNOT read any of his fantasy

work.

Isn't it amazing, continually, how differently people's brains WORK?

Jacquie

[Guest guest]

ok...I just did this, and *I* need to know how it works too...

OT someone needs to tell me how the F***

this works!

This is strange, eerie, and impossible.

http://www.cyberglass.co.uk/FlashEx/mindreader.html

Jacquie

[Guest guest]

Huh?

RE: OT someone needs to tell me how the F***

this works!

The answer is always 0 or a multiple of 9. The symbols are assigned to

those numbers, and then randomly, so you get a different symbol every time

AND they are not limited to the answers. (i.e. if the answer is a star, 33

might have a star although it is not one of the answers)

Are you looking for the mathematical formula to figure out all the possible

answers, or what?

-Sara.

Wife to Matt

SAHM to (3.5, autism)

Gabe (21 mos, speech delay)

and 'Punkin' due late May!

[Guest guest]

I'm still really confused....?

Re: OT someone needs to tell me how the F***

this works!

> Are you looking for the mathematical formula to figure out all the

possible

> answers, or what?

Nope, 0 or a multiple of 9 was all I needed. :-) I knew the only symbol

that could come up changed and that it was only beside the only possible

answers each time, but I didn't know what made those particular numbers the

right answers.

THANK YOU!

Jacquie

[Guest guest]

NO!

Here's why I can't get past the logic:

The first number I picked was " 32 " , giving me an answer of " 27 " - symbol,

smiley face. I got a smiley face.

The second number I picked was " 72 " , giving me an answer of " 63 " - symbol,

polygon. I got a polygon.

The third number I picked was " 47 " , giving me an answer of '36 " - symbol,

opposite parentheses. I got opposite parentheses.

Now I can " see " that all of my answers were multiples of " 9 " , but I got

three different symbols... What if I had chosen " 47 " first? I doesn't

stand to reason that I would've gotten the correct symbol...

AAAAAAGHHHHH....HELP!

Penny

Re: Re: OT someone needs to tell me how the

F*** this works!

> I *still* don't understand exactly how it works.

>

Okay. It shows all the " possible " answers to the side, with their symbols.

But with the formula they give you, NOT all those answers are possible.

I started getting it when I started just randomly thinking of a number

instead of doing the formula, and 50% of the time the wrong symbol appeared.

So I knew it was rigged *somehow*. So then I just kept clicking and

watching the symbols move to different numbers, and noticed that certain

numbers always had the same symbols beside them.

I couldn't get further than that, so I called for help, and Sara discovered

that the numbers with the 'correct' symbols beside them were either 0s of

multiples of 9 -- meaning that the answer to the formula always had to be a

0 or a multiple of 9.

Does that explain it?

Jacquie

[Guest guest]

I'm with you Debbie....If you figure this out, can you explain it to me in

" layman's " terms...<wink>

Penny :-D

RE: Re: OT someone needs to tell me how the

F*** this works!

Untrue, because I've done the formula and ended up with different

symbols.

Debbie with twins

- Jordan (ASD) 2.5yo

- (NT) 2.5yo

[Guest guest]

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

I get it now.

Penny

RE: Re: OT someone needs to tell me how the

F*** this works!

Yes, every time you start the game over again, it re-assigns all the

symbols. So 9 is a star this time and a spiral next time and a smiley face

the time after that, but the answer is still always the symbol next to 9.

-Sara.

[Guest guest]

You have no idea how much I was hoping to get to this message!!! There are

only so many ways I can try to explain it, LOL!

-Sara.

> Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

>

> I get it now.

>

> Penny

[Guest guest]

Well, I have done my time in a cubicle, but Enrique who has not finds

Dilbert totally hilarious.

Perhaps I passed my cubicle experience on to him in my breastmilk or

something?

Salli

> Indeed, I'm typing this from my cubicle right now...heh.

>

> At least I the rest of the bodies have gone home and I can crank up

> the new Dirty Vegas album...

>

> A

>

>

> > i find dilbert mildly amusing but my husband is a total dilbert

> worshipper - but he is a software developer so that may explain it.

> i have seen him double over and turn blue reading dilbert! maybe you

> need to have done time in a cubicle or something??

> >

> > M.G.mum to

> > Sebastian, 11 kinda quirky(NT)

> > Rowan, 6 extra quirky (ASD)

> > married to and living in Northern Ontario

> >

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> > Re: Re: OT someone needs to tell me

> how the F*** this works!

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> > > Oh no, I don't find that twisted at all.

> > >

> > > I love my Far Sides and my Dilberts.

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> >

> > I LOVE the Far Side but I just don't GET Dilbert. We have the

> current

> > page-a-day Dilbert (an Xmas gift), and every day I read it and

> go, " Hunh? "

> > I think it might be because I have NEVER worked in an office.

> (once I HAD

> > an office, but spent 80% of my time travelling)

> >

> > Jacquie

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

LOL Sara.

My poor husband!

It was KILLING HIM!!!

He was getting there, but I just couldn't take watching his frustration any

longer, lol

He thought it was QUITE ingenious.

Penny

RE: Re: OT someone needs to tell me how the

F*** this works!

You have no idea how much I was hoping to get to this message!!! There are

only so many ways I can try to explain it, LOL!

-Sara.

> Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

>

> I get it now.

>

> Penny