Measles outbreak

November 7, 2011

Hi guys,

As you all know, there have been some recent measles cases across the country,

and several in my hometown in MD. A few people have died. My 7 year-old asd son

has never received the mmr, and I'm really worried about him contracting this

disease. Our regular pediatrician just showed me some documentation stating that

none of the single-serve vials of the mmr vaccine that she uses contain

thimerosol. Should I take that at its word and just give my son this vaccine?

Are there other things to be worried about with this vaccine besides thimerosol?

Thanks,

Soraya

November 7, 2011

This is just me, but I would keep my son out of malls, walmarts, chuckey cheese's and such and keep him supplemented with vitamin a. Is he school age?

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 11:36 AMSubject: Measles outbreak

Hi guys, As you all know, there have been some recent measles cases across the country, and several in my hometown in MD. A few people have died. My 7 year-old asd son has never received the mmr, and I'm really worried about him contracting this disease. Our regular pediatrician just showed me some documentation stating that none of the single-serve vials of the mmr vaccine that she uses contain thimerosol. Should I take that at its word and just give my son this vaccine? Are there other things to be worried about with this vaccine besides thimerosol?Thanks,Soraya

November 7, 2011

You have to do what you're comfortable with. I would not but that's me. thimerasol has not been removed, it's just been lowered enough that they don't have to report it in the list of ingredients. Whether or not it's been completely removed is unknown. Plus, they had to replace it with something. Likely aluminum. part of the problem is also that they are giving 3 separate vaccines in one. If I were to do it, I would want the individual shots so I could space them out by a month at the very least.

But I understand your fear. It's a hard choice to make when you don't know if it will damage your child, especially when so many other children seemingly do fine, our at the very least remain NT. It's a hard choice. Do what will make you the most comfortable.

I know, not much help!

Sent from my Evo. These are not the typos you are looking for...

Hi guys,

As you all know, there have been some recent measles cases across the country, and several in my hometown in MD. A few people have died. My 7 year-old asd son has never received the mmr, and I'm really worried about him contracting this disease. Our regular pediatrician just showed me some documentation stating that none of the single-serve vials of the mmr vaccine that she uses contain thimerosol. Should I take that at its word and just give my son this vaccine? Are there other things to be worried about with this vaccine besides thimerosol?

Thanks,

Soraya

November 7, 2011

Just one person's opinion...

Having seen my son regress terribly after the MMR, if I could back and undo getting that shot, I would absolutely do so. Granted, your son is older than mine, who was 23 months old when he received it, but the measles vaccine is a live virus and can do a lot of damage, especially in a person on the spectrum. Especially if your son has any GI issues at all - measles is known to be causally related to the development of Crohn's disease in some individuals, and we absolutely saw hugely negative changes in my son's digestive function after the MMR. All of this is outside the consideration of any thimerosal presence, which itself is definitely a problem, even if it is reduced.

Of course, then there's the chance of contracting the actual virus, which wouldn't be good, but at least there is a chance of avoiding it. If you administer the vaccine, you are guaranteeing introduction of the virus to your child, and most ASD kiddos' immune systems are unable to suppress the virus as a typical person can, so the fact that it is a " weakened " virus is not as beneficial as it sounds on the surface. If your son forewent the vaccine and somehow contracted the measles, you can treat it with high doses of Vitamin A under a doctor's supervision.

Just my thoughts. I feel so strongly on the topic of vaccines and particularly the MMR after experiencing the damage it did to my son. Even worse is the fact that we only gave the MMR to him at the urging of the doctors, and then after the fact they completely disacknowledged the negative physical impact to him and we were left to deal with the consequences on our own.

Best,

P.S. I'm new to the group - will try to send out a brief intro of myself soon. Just joined last week, but have been super busy at work and when I saw your post I couldn't help but to respond even though I am " stranger. "

Hi guys, As you all know, there have been some recent measles cases across the country, and several in my hometown in MD. A few people have died. My 7 year-old asd son has never received the mmr, and I'm really worried about him contracting this disease. Our regular pediatrician just showed me some documentation stating that none of the single-serve vials of the mmr vaccine that she uses contain thimerosol. Should I take that at its word and just give my son this vaccine? Are there other things to be worried about with this vaccine besides thimerosol?

Thanks,Soraya

November 7, 2011

If it makes you feel better, see if you can find out about who died. Were they old or very young? Were they already vaccinated?Did they stay home for several days before seeking medical treatment?I would probably bolster his immune system with vitamin A.

Aluminum in vaccines is also a cause of brain inflammation.

Hi guys,

As you all know, there have been some recent measles cases across the country, and several in my hometown in MD. A few people have died. My 7 year-old asd son has never received the mmr, and I'm really worried about him contracting this disease. Our regular pediatrician just showed me some documentation stating that none of the single-serve vials of the mmr vaccine that she uses contain thimerosol. Should I take that at its word and just give my son this vaccine? Are there other things to be worried about with this vaccine besides thimerosol?

Thanks,

Soraya

-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

November 7, 2011

Hi Soraya,You have to do what you feel confortable with, but do not allow them to give him the combo. Unfortunately there are many things still in the vaccines that is not favorable for our children. Do your homework about it before you make a decision. You are smart so you will do the right thing.

Good luck to youTunde

Hi guys,

As you all know, there have been some recent measles cases across the country, and several in my hometown in MD. A few people have died. My 7 year-old asd son has never received the mmr, and I'm really worried about him contracting this disease. Our regular pediatrician just showed me some documentation stating that none of the single-serve vials of the mmr vaccine that she uses contain thimerosol. Should I take that at its word and just give my son this vaccine? Are there other things to be worried about with this vaccine besides thimerosol?

Thanks,

Soraya

-- " Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter. " MLK

November 7, 2011

Hi Soraya,Did the Ped tell you the manufacturer and other information about the single-serve vial? You may want to get the insert ahead of time and read through it so that you have the full information from the manufacturer?I am curious as to the manufacturer and how your Pediatrician got the single-serve vial. Did you explicitly ask for it?Thanks,To: mb12valtrex Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 8:36 AMSubject: Measles outbreak

Hi guys,

As you all know, there have been some recent measles cases across the country, and several in my hometown in MD. A few people have died. My 7 year-old asd son has never received the mmr, and I'm really worried about him contracting this disease. Our regular pediatrician just showed me some documentation stating that none of the single-serve vials of the mmr vaccine that she uses contain thimerosol. Should I take that at its word and just give my son this vaccine? Are there other things to be worried about with this vaccine besides thimerosol?

Thanks,

Soraya

November 7, 2011

I agree - check out details. I wouldn't do it, but I'm a mom whose son is damaged for life from the MMR. So, the more research you do the better.To: mb12valtrex Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 12:52 PMSubject: Re: Measles outbreak

If it makes you feel better, see if you can find out about who died. Were they old or very young? Were they already vaccinated?Did they stay home for several days before seeking medical treatment?I would probably bolster his immune system with vitamin A.

Aluminum in vaccines is also a cause of brain inflammation.

Hi guys,

As you all know, there have been some recent measles cases across the country, and several in my hometown in MD. A few people have died. My 7 year-old asd son has never received the mmr, and I'm really worried about him contracting this disease. Our regular pediatrician just showed me some documentation stating that none of the single-serve vials of the mmr vaccine that she uses contain thimerosol. Should I take that at its word and just give my son this vaccine? Are there other things to be worried about with this vaccine besides thimerosol?

Thanks,

Soraya

-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

November 7, 2011

When I was young, everyone got the measles when they were young. It was nothing we worried about to tried to avoid, in fact, we tried to expose our children to it. I believe only older, weak, or ill people need to fear it. If your child has a weakened immune system, he might fall into that category, but otherwise a normal 7 year-old should not be a high risk.My fear of the vaccines is what they put in it and they are not forthcoming about it: embryo and chicken parts, stealth virus, formaldehyde, etc. At least the measles is straight forward: it is what it is.sallyTo: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex >Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 5:19 PMSubject: Re: Measles outbreak

I agree - check out details. I wouldn't do it, but I'm a mom whose son is damaged for life from the MMR. So, the more research you do the better.To: mb12valtrex Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 12:52 PMSubject: Re: Measles outbreak

If it makes you feel better, see if you can find out about who died. Were they old or very young? Were they already vaccinated?Did they stay home for several days before seeking medical treatment?I would probably bolster his immune system with vitamin A.

Aluminum in vaccines is also a cause of brain inflammation.

Hi guys,

As you all know, there have been some recent measles cases across the country, and several in my hometown in MD. A few people have died. My 7 year-old asd son has never received the mmr, and I'm really worried about him contracting this disease. Our regular pediatrician just showed me some documentation stating that none of the single-serve vials of the mmr vaccine that she uses contain thimerosol. Should I take that at its word and just give my son this vaccine? Are there other things to be worried about with this vaccine besides thimerosol?

Thanks,

Soraya

-- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

November 7, 2011

Yes, he is school-age, 7 years old. And , I did ask my son's ped if she used single-serve vials and she said yes. I didn't know to ask her about aluminum, nor did I ask about getting the measles vaccine by itself. But, I did some reading about the role of vitamin A in measles prevention/treatment, and it is very encouraging. I've also made an appointment to discuss this with our DAN, Dr. Megson. I really don't want to give my son any more vaccines--he hasn't had one since his diagnosis at 15 months, but I'm scared, to be honest, and my husband thinks we should give the vaccine. He's like, "Of the two extremes, regression from a vaccine or possible death from complications from the measles, I'll take the vaccine any day." Thanks for the advice, everybody...I'll have Dr. Megson bump up our vitamin A and anything else she suggests, and pray our little guy can avoid this mild outbreak.

This is just me, but I would keep my son out of malls, walmarts, chuckey cheese's and such and keep him supplemented with vitamin a. Is he school age?

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 11:36 AMSubject: Measles outbreak

Hi guys, As you all know, there have been some recent measles cases across the country, and several in my hometown in MD. A few people have died. My 7 year-old asd son has never received the mmr, and I'm really worried about him contracting this disease. Our regular pediatrician just showed me some documentation stating that none of the single-serve vials of the mmr vaccine that she uses contain thimerosol. Should I take that at its word and just give my son this vaccine? Are there other things to be worried about with this vaccine besides thimerosol?Thanks,Soraya

November 7, 2011

when did they prove vaccines work? what study? just curious...I have heard of kids getting measles from the vaccine itself and then passing on the dna contamintated virus to other kids that way.

purposely inject my son with a vaccine whos safety has never been proven? not me. not my child . I would have vitamin a ready and other viral fighters should my son contract measles.

few people have died? what about the thousands of brain damaged kids from vaccines. oh but if your docter says its safe then i guess it must be. sarcasm sorry.

but who am I ? so we all do what we feel is best for our kids.

channa

To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex >Cc: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex >Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 9:06 PMSubject: Re: Measles outbreak

Yes, he is school-age, 7 years old. And , I did ask my son's ped if she used single-serve vials and she said yes. I didn't know to ask her about aluminum, nor did I ask about getting the measles vaccine by itself. But, I did some reading about the role of vitamin A in measles prevention/treatment, and it is very encouraging. I've also made an appointment to discuss this with our DAN, Dr. Megson. I really don't want to give my son any more vaccines--he hasn't had one since his diagnosis at 15 months, but I'm scared, to be honest, and my husband thinks we should give the vaccine. He's like, "Of the two extremes, regression from a vaccine or possible death from complications from the measles, I'll take the vaccine any day."

Thanks for the advice, everybody...I'll have Dr. Megson bump up our vitamin A and anything else she suggests, and pray our little guy can avoid this mild outbreak.

This is just me, but I would keep my son out of malls, walmarts, chuckey cheese's and such and keep him supplemented with vitamin a. Is he school age?

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 11:36 AMSubject: Measles outbreak

Hi guys, As you all know, there have been some recent measles cases across the country, and several in my hometown in MD. A few people have died. My 7 year-old asd son has never received the mmr, and I'm really worried about him contracting this disease. Our regular pediatrician just showed me some documentation stating that none of the single-serve vials of the mmr vaccine that she uses contain thimerosol. Should I take that at its word and just give my son this vaccine? Are there other things to be worried about with this vaccine besides thimerosol?Thanks,Soraya

November 7, 2011

I don't know if the last set of vaccs he had at 15 months included the MMR, but if it did, you can pull his titers to see if he still has immunity. 95% of those vaccinated with MMR acquire immunity after the first dose. We receive subsequent doses for the 5% who do not.

WHO (World Health Organization) uses Vitamin A to treat those who contract measles...which is typically not deadly but for those who are very young, very old, very sick or severely malnutritioned...those who are especially void of vitamin a (We're talking countries who suffer from famine)

Channa's right, the majority of measles outbreaks are caused by those already vaccinated. So it's really still a roll of the dice. If you DO choose to go ahead with it, Dr. Bock suggests taking vitamins a, c, zinc, and transfer factor for as many days as you can before it and for atleast two weeks after. And as you know, never ever vaccinate if there's so much as a sniffle or if antibiotics are currently or have recently been used. And just so you're informed, less thermasil means more aluminum. yuck!

All you can do is be as informed as possible then make the best choice you can for your child.

-Tammy

To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex >Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 9:25 PMSubject: Re: Measles outbreak

when did they prove vaccines work? what study? just curious...I have heard of kids getting measles from the vaccine itself and then passing on the dna contamintated virus to other kids that way.

purposely inject my son with a vaccine whos safety has never been proven? not me. not my child . I would have vitamin a ready and other viral fighters should my son contract measles.

few people have died? what about the thousands of brain damaged kids from vaccines. oh but if your docter says its safe then i guess it must be. sarcasm sorry.

but who am I ? so we all do what we feel is best for our kids.

channa

To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex >Cc: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex >Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 9:06 PMSubject: Re: Measles outbreak

Yes, he is school-age, 7 years old. And , I did ask my son's ped if she used single-serve vials and she said yes. I didn't know to ask her about aluminum, nor did I ask about getting the measles vaccine by itself. But, I did some reading about the role of vitamin A in measles prevention/treatment, and it is very encouraging. I've also made an appointment to discuss this with our DAN, Dr. Megson. I really don't want to give my son any more vaccines--he hasn't had one since his diagnosis at 15 months, but I'm scared, to be honest, and my husband thinks we should give the vaccine. He's like, "Of the two extremes, regression from a vaccine or possible death from complications from the measles, I'll take the vaccine any day."

Thanks for the advice, everybody...I'll have Dr. Megson bump up our vitamin A and anything else she suggests, and pray our little guy can avoid this mild outbreak.

This is just me, but I would keep my son out of malls, walmarts, chuckey cheese's and such and keep him supplemented with vitamin a. Is he school age?

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 11:36 AMSubject: Measles outbreak

Hi guys, As you all know, there have been some recent measles cases across the country, and several in my hometown in MD. A few people have died. My 7 year-old asd son has never received the mmr, and I'm really worried about him contracting this disease. Our regular pediatrician just showed me some documentation stating that none of the single-serve vials of the mmr vaccine that she uses contain thimerosol. Should I take that at its word and just give my son this vaccine? Are there other things to be worried about with this vaccine besides thimerosol?Thanks,Soraya

November 7, 2011

My son contracted German measles (rubella) a couple months after having his MMR at 1 year old. He is four and still has elevated titers for Rubella and Mumps. He started getting watery diarrhea, night terrors, no language development after the German measles. Our Dan thinks he got the measles from the shot and I do too. My typical two year old hasn't had the MMR shot and we have stopped all other shots for her too. At the moment, I feel safer her getting the measles then the MMR -- at least it is more natural, no heavy metals and most measles cases are not fatal anyway (german measles and mumps are pretty benign too).... To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex >Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 10:50 PMSubject: Re: Measles outbreak

I don't know if the last set of vaccs he had at 15 months included the MMR, but if it did, you can pull his titers to see if he still has immunity. 95% of those vaccinated with MMR acquire immunity after the first dose. We receive subsequent doses for the 5% who do not.

WHO (World Health Organization) uses Vitamin A to treat those who contract measles...which is typically not deadly but for those who are very young, very old, very sick or severely malnutritioned...those who are especially void of vitamin a (We're talking countries who suffer from famine)

Channa's right, the majority of measles outbreaks are caused by those already vaccinated. So it's really still a roll of the dice. If you DO choose to go ahead with it, Dr. Bock suggests taking vitamins a, c, zinc, and transfer factor for as many days as you can before it and for atleast two weeks after. And as you know, never ever vaccinate if there's so much as a sniffle or if antibiotics are currently or have recently been used. And just so you're informed, less thermasil means more aluminum. yuck!

All you can do is be as informed as possible then make the best choice you can for your child.

-Tammy

To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex >Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 9:25 PMSubject: Re: Measles outbreak

when did they prove vaccines work? what study? just curious...I have heard of kids getting measles from the vaccine itself and then passing on the dna contamintated virus to other kids that way.

purposely inject my son with a vaccine whos safety has never been proven? not me. not my child . I would have vitamin a ready and other viral fighters should my son contract measles.

few people have died? what about the thousands of brain damaged kids from vaccines. oh but if your docter says its safe then i guess it must be. sarcasm sorry.

but who am I ? so we all do what we feel is best for our kids.

channa

To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex >Cc: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex >Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 9:06 PMSubject: Re: Measles outbreak

Yes, he is school-age, 7 years old. And , I did ask my son's ped if she used single-serve vials and she said yes. I didn't know to ask her about aluminum, nor did I ask about getting the measles vaccine by itself. But, I did some reading about the role of vitamin A in measles prevention/treatment, and it is very encouraging. I've also made an appointment to discuss this with our DAN, Dr. Megson. I really don't want to give my son any more vaccines--he hasn't had one since his diagnosis at 15 months, but I'm scared, to be honest, and my husband thinks we should give the vaccine. He's like, "Of the two extremes, regression from a vaccine or possible death from complications from the measles, I'll take the vaccine any day."

Thanks for the advice, everybody...I'll have Dr. Megson bump up our vitamin A and anything else she suggests, and pray our little guy can avoid this mild outbreak.

This is just me, but I would keep my son out of malls, walmarts, chuckey cheese's and such and keep him supplemented with vitamin a. Is he school age?

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 11:36 AMSubject: Measles outbreak

Hi guys, As you all know, there have been some recent measles cases across the country, and several in my hometown in MD. A few people have died. My 7 year-old asd son has never received the mmr, and I'm really worried about him contracting this disease. Our regular pediatrician just showed me some documentation stating that none of the single-serve vials of the mmr vaccine that she uses contain thimerosol. Should I take that at its word and just give my son this vaccine? Are there other things to be worried about with this vaccine besides thimerosol?Thanks,Soraya

November 8, 2011

this is what I would do if my son got the measles or any other illness.

stop eating because it takes energy to digest food and your body needs energy to heal.

drink lots of veggie broths and fresh sqeezed juice. vitamin c every two hours.

fever is the bodys way of killing pathogens so i wouldnt try to lower it unless the child was showing some bad side affects,like decreased vital signs. every parent should know what normal vital signs is for their child.

ginger tea is good as long as their is not too much heat in the body.

make sure the bowels are moving to detox stuff.v viral fighters....elderberry vitamin A ect..

In really bad situations I have silver water, and myrhh essential oil. but those to me are the big guns and i wouldnt give unless it was really really serious. i use silver water for myself it is a strong antibiotic...but when i get sick i cant recover because my immune system is almost as jacked up as my sons. but i dont really think its good for metal toxic kids unless it is really needed. every kid will respond diffrent to diffrent stuff but these are some of my ideas of the top of my head i thought i would share.

channa

To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex >Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 11:25 PMSubject: Re: Measles outbreak

My son contracted German measles (rubella) a couple months after having his MMR at 1 year old. He is four and still has elevated titers for Rubella and Mumps. He started getting watery diarrhea, night terrors, no language development after the German measles. Our Dan thinks he got the measles from the shot and I do too. My typical two year old hasn't had the MMR shot and we have stopped all other shots for her too. At the moment, I feel safer her getting the measles then the MMR -- at least it is more natural, no heavy metals and most measles cases are not fatal anyway (german measles and mumps are pretty benign too)....

To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex >Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 10:50 PMSubject: Re: Measles outbreak

I don't know if the last set of vaccs he had at 15 months included the MMR, but if it did, you can pull his titers to see if he still has immunity. 95% of those vaccinated with MMR acquire immunity after the first dose. We receive subsequent doses for the 5% who do not.

WHO (World Health Organization) uses Vitamin A to treat those who contract measles...which is typically not deadly but for those who are very young, very old, very sick or severely malnutritioned...those who are especially void of vitamin a (We're talking countries who suffer from famine)

Channa's right, the majority of measles outbreaks are caused by those already vaccinated. So it's really still a roll of the dice. If you DO choose to go ahead with it, Dr. Bock suggests taking vitamins a, c, zinc, and transfer factor for as many days as you can before it and for atleast two weeks after. And as you know, never ever vaccinate if there's so much as a sniffle or if antibiotics are currently or have recently been used. And just so you're informed, less thermasil means more aluminum. yuck!

All you can do is be as informed as possible then make the best choice you can for your child.

-Tammy

To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex >Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 9:25 PMSubject: Re: Measles outbreak

when did they prove vaccines work? what study? just curious...I have heard of kids getting measles from the vaccine itself and then passing on the dna contamintated virus to other kids that way.

purposely inject my son with a vaccine whos safety has never been proven? not me. not my child . I would have vitamin a ready and other viral fighters should my son contract measles.

few people have died? what about the thousands of brain damaged kids from vaccines. oh but if your docter says its safe then i guess it must be. sarcasm sorry.

but who am I ? so we all do what we feel is best for our kids.

channa

To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex >Cc: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex >Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 9:06 PMSubject: Re: Measles outbreak

Yes, he is school-age, 7 years old. And , I did ask my son's ped if she used single-serve vials and she said yes. I didn't know to ask her about aluminum, nor did I ask about getting the measles vaccine by itself. But, I did some reading about the role of vitamin A in measles prevention/treatment, and it is very encouraging. I've also made an appointment to discuss this with our DAN, Dr. Megson. I really don't want to give my son any more vaccines--he hasn't had one since his diagnosis at 15 months, but I'm scared, to be honest, and my husband thinks we should give the vaccine. He's like, "Of the two extremes, regression from a vaccine or possible death from complications from the measles, I'll take the vaccine any day."

Thanks for the advice, everybody...I'll have Dr. Megson bump up our vitamin A and anything else she suggests, and pray our little guy can avoid this mild outbreak.

This is just me, but I would keep my son out of malls, walmarts, chuckey cheese's and such and keep him supplemented with vitamin a. Is he school age?

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 11:36 AMSubject: Measles outbreak

Hi guys, As you all know, there have been some recent measles cases across the country, and several in my hometown in MD. A few people have died. My 7 year-old asd son has never received the mmr, and I'm really worried about him contracting this disease. Our regular pediatrician just showed me some documentation stating that none of the single-serve vials of the mmr vaccine that she uses contain thimerosol. Should I take that at its word and just give my son this vaccine? Are there other things to be worried about with this vaccine besides thimerosol?Thanks,Soraya

November 8, 2011

you know Chana you are absolutely right. We just need to look back in time what our grandmas did during sickness. My grandma had her simple special tea, I swear whenever we got sick we wanted her to be around, somehow she just knew what to do. I wish I learned from her, i would be in a much better position now.

Tunde

this is what I would do if my son got the measles or any other illness.

stop eating because it takes energy to digest food and your body needs energy to heal.

drink lots of veggie broths and fresh sqeezed juice. vitamin c every two hours.

fever is the bodys way of killing pathogens so i wouldnt try to lower it unless the child was showing some bad side affects,like decreased vital signs. every parent should know what normal vital signs is for their child.

ginger tea is good as long as their is not too much heat in the body.

make sure the bowels are moving to detox stuff.v viral fighters....elderberry vitamin A ect..

In really bad situations I have silver water, and myrhh essential oil. but those to me are the big guns and i wouldnt give unless it was really really serious. i use silver water for myself it is a strong antibiotic...but when i get sick i cant recover because my immune system is almost as jacked up as my sons. but i dont really think its good for metal toxic kids unless it is really needed. every kid will respond diffrent to diffrent stuff but these are some of my ideas of the top of my head i thought i would share.

channa

To: " mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex >

Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 11:25 PMSubject: Re: Measles outbreak

My son contracted German measles (rubella) a couple months after having his MMR at 1 year old. He is four and still has elevated titers for Rubella and Mumps. He started getting watery diarrhea, night terrors, no language development after the German measles. Our Dan thinks he got the measles from the shot and I do too. My typical two year old hasn't had the MMR shot and we have stopped all other shots for her too. At the moment, I feel safer her getting the measles then the MMR -- at least it is more natural, no heavy metals and most measles cases are not fatal anyway (german measles and mumps are pretty benign too)....

To: " mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex >

Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 10:50 PMSubject: Re: Measles outbreak

I don't know if the last set of vaccs he had at 15 months included the MMR, but if it did, you can pull his titers to see if he still has immunity. 95% of those vaccinated with MMR acquire immunity after the first dose. We receive subsequent doses for the 5% who do not.

WHO (World Health Organization) uses Vitamin A to treat those who contract measles...which is typically not deadly but for those who are very young, very old, very sick or severely malnutritioned...those who are especially void of vitamin a (We're talking countries who suffer from famine)

Channa's right, the majority of measles outbreaks are caused by those already vaccinated. So it's really still a roll of the dice. If you DO choose to go ahead with it, Dr. Bock suggests taking vitamins a, c, zinc, and transfer factor for as many days as you can before it and for atleast two weeks after. And as you know, never ever vaccinate if there's so much as a sniffle or if antibiotics are currently or have recently been used. And just so you're informed, less thermasil means more aluminum. yuck!

All you can do is be as informed as possible then make the best choice you can for your child.

-Tammy

To: " mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex >

Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 9:25 PMSubject: Re: Measles outbreak

when did they prove vaccines work? what study? just curious...I have heard of kids getting measles from the vaccine itself and then passing on the dna contamintated virus to other kids that way.

purposely inject my son with a vaccine whos safety has never been proven? not me. not my child . I would have vitamin a ready and other viral fighters should my son contract measles.

few people have died? what about the thousands of brain damaged kids from vaccines. oh but if your docter says its safe then i guess it must be. sarcasm sorry.

but who am I ? so we all do what we feel is best for our kids.

channa

To: " mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex >

Cc: " mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex >

Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 9:06 PMSubject: Re: Measles outbreak

Yes, he is school-age, 7 years old. And , I did ask my son's ped if she used single-serve vials and she said yes. I didn't know to ask her about aluminum, nor did I ask about getting the measles vaccine by itself. But, I did some reading about the role of vitamin A in measles prevention/treatment, and it is very encouraging. I've also made an appointment to discuss this with our DAN, Dr. Megson. I really don't want to give my son any more vaccines--he hasn't had one since his diagnosis at 15 months, but I'm scared, to be honest, and my husband thinks we should give the vaccine. He's like, " Of the two extremes, regression from a vaccine or possible death from complications from the measles, I'll take the vaccine any day. "

Thanks for the advice, everybody...I'll have Dr. Megson bump up our vitamin A and anything else she suggests, and pray our little guy can avoid this mild outbreak.

This is just me, but I would keep my son out of malls, walmarts, chuckey cheese's and such and keep him supplemented with vitamin a. Is he school age?

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 11:36 AM

Subject: Measles outbreak

Hi guys, As you all know, there have been some recent measles cases across the country, and several in my hometown in MD. A few people have died. My 7 year-old asd son has never received the mmr, and I'm really worried about him contracting this disease. Our regular pediatrician just showed me some documentation stating that none of the single-serve vials of the mmr vaccine that she uses contain thimerosol. Should I take that at its word and just give my son this vaccine? Are there other things to be worried about with this vaccine besides thimerosol?

Thanks,Soraya

-- " Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter. " MLK

November 8, 2011

yah Tunde and didnt they also give a spoonful of castor oil also in the begining of a sickness..to clean out bowels..I still wanna get a hold of some medical books from the 1950s they probably got great info in their..

in the old days people would get deathly sick...and if you were weak its true you did not survive it and you died.

but at the same time if you did survive it you most likely would never have cancer autoimmune desease demencia .All the chronic modern deseases that we have today are caused by build up of shit in our bodys and I mean shit in every possible way.

this will make me sound crazy but I wish my kid would get really really sick and of course survive because I know all the other chronic health issues he has would probably go away after that.

getting sick is the body cleaning house. docters are so busy giving antiviotics for every thing that our bodys never can detox properly.

channa

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2011 7:26 AMSubject: Re: Measles outbreak

you know Chana you are absolutely right. We just need to look back in time what our grandmas did during sickness. My grandma had her simple special tea, I swear whenever we got sick we wanted her to be around, somehow she just knew what to do. I wish I learned from her, i would be in a much better position now.Tunde

this is what I would do if my son got the measles or any other illness.

stop eating because it takes energy to digest food and your body needs energy to heal.

drink lots of veggie broths and fresh sqeezed juice. vitamin c every two hours.

fever is the bodys way of killing pathogens so i wouldnt try to lower it unless the child was showing some bad side affects,like decreased vital signs. every parent should know what normal vital signs is for their child.

ginger tea is good as long as their is not too much heat in the body.

make sure the bowels are moving to detox stuff.v viral fighters....elderberry vitamin A ect..

In really bad situations I have silver water, and myrhh essential oil. but those to me are the big guns and i wouldnt give unless it was really really serious. i use silver water for myself it is a strong antibiotic...but when i get sick i cant recover because my immune system is almost as jacked up as my sons. but i dont really think its good for metal toxic kids unless it is really needed. every kid will respond diffrent to diffrent stuff but these are some of my ideas of the top of my head i thought i would share.

channa

To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex >Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 11:25 PMSubject: Re: Measles outbreak

My son contracted German measles (rubella) a couple months after having his MMR at 1 year old. He is four and still has elevated titers for Rubella and Mumps. He started getting watery diarrhea, night terrors, no language development after the German measles. Our Dan thinks he got the measles from the shot and I do too. My typical two year old hasn't had the MMR shot and we have stopped all other shots for her too. At the moment, I feel safer her getting the measles then the MMR -- at least it is more natural, no heavy metals and most measles cases are not fatal anyway (german measles and mumps are pretty benign too)....

To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex >Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 10:50 PMSubject: Re: Measles outbreak

I don't know if the last set of vaccs he had at 15 months included the MMR, but if it did, you can pull his titers to see if he still has immunity. 95% of those vaccinated with MMR acquire immunity after the first dose. We receive subsequent doses for the 5% who do not.

WHO (World Health Organization) uses Vitamin A to treat those who contract measles...which is typically not deadly but for those who are very young, very old, very sick or severely malnutritioned...those who are especially void of vitamin a (We're talking countries who suffer from famine)

Channa's right, the majority of measles outbreaks are caused by those already vaccinated. So it's really still a roll of the dice. If you DO choose to go ahead with it, Dr. Bock suggests taking vitamins a, c, zinc, and transfer factor for as many days as you can before it and for atleast two weeks after. And as you know, never ever vaccinate if there's so much as a sniffle or if antibiotics are currently or have recently been used. And just so you're informed, less thermasil means more aluminum. yuck!

All you can do is be as informed as possible then make the best choice you can for your child.

-Tammy

To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex >Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 9:25 PMSubject: Re: Measles outbreak

when did they prove vaccines work? what study? just curious...I have heard of kids getting measles from the vaccine itself and then passing on the dna contamintated virus to other kids that way.

purposely inject my son with a vaccine whos safety has never been proven? not me. not my child . I would have vitamin a ready and other viral fighters should my son contract measles.

few people have died? what about the thousands of brain damaged kids from vaccines. oh but if your docter says its safe then i guess it must be. sarcasm sorry.

but who am I ? so we all do what we feel is best for our kids.

channa

To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex >Cc: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex >Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 9:06 PMSubject: Re: Measles outbreak

Yes, he is school-age, 7 years old. And , I did ask my son's ped if she used single-serve vials and she said yes. I didn't know to ask her about aluminum, nor did I ask about getting the measles vaccine by itself. But, I did some reading about the role of vitamin A in measles prevention/treatment, and it is very encouraging. I've also made an appointment to discuss this with our DAN, Dr. Megson. I really don't want to give my son any more vaccines--he hasn't had one since his diagnosis at 15 months, but I'm scared, to be honest, and my husband thinks we should give the vaccine. He's like, "Of the two extremes, regression from a vaccine or possible death from complications from the measles, I'll take the vaccine any day."

Thanks for the advice, everybody...I'll have Dr. Megson bump up our vitamin A and anything else she suggests, and pray our little guy can avoid this mild outbreak.

This is just me, but I would keep my son out of malls, walmarts, chuckey cheese's and such and keep him supplemented with vitamin a. Is he school age?

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 11:36 AMSubject: Measles outbreak

Hi guys, As you all know, there have been some recent measles cases across the country, and several in my hometown in MD. A few people have died. My 7 year-old asd son has never received the mmr, and I'm really worried about him contracting this disease. Our regular pediatrician just showed me some documentation stating that none of the single-serve vials of the mmr vaccine that she uses contain thimerosol. Should I take that at its word and just give my son this vaccine? Are there other things to be worried about with this vaccine besides thimerosol?Thanks,Soraya

-- "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter." MLK

November 8, 2011

Yes. The vaccine itself is made with attenuated measles virus. This an altered

form of the pathogen. Many people believe the problem with vaccines are the

effect the pathogens have on our immune system rather than the heavy metals.

>

> Hi guys,

>

> As you all know, there have been some recent measles cases across the country,

and several in my hometown in MD. A few people have died. My 7 year-old asd son

has never received the mmr, and I'm really worried about him contracting this

disease. Our regular pediatrician just showed me some documentation stating that

none of the single-serve vials of the mmr vaccine that she uses contain

thimerosol. Should I take that at its word and just give my son this vaccine?

Are there other things to be worried about with this vaccine besides thimerosol?

>

> Thanks,

> Soraya

>

November 8, 2011

The number of people getting the measles are well under 1% and probably well

under 1% of people who catch the measles die from it.

If your son has reacted poorly to vaccines in the past, he will probaly regress

again.

Do some research on the statistics.

>

> > This is just me, but I would keep my son out of malls, walmarts, chuckey

cheese's and such and keep him supplemented with vitamin a. Is he school age?

> >

> > To: mb12valtrex

> > Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 11:36 AM

> > Subject: Measles outbreak

> >

> > Hi guys,

> >

> > As you all know, there have been some recent measles cases across the

country, and several in my hometown in MD. A few people have died. My 7 year-old

asd son has never received the mmr, and I'm really worried about him contracting

this disease. Our regular pediatrician just showed me some documentation stating

that none of the single-serve vials of the mmr vaccine that she uses contain

thimerosol. Should I take that at its word and just give my son this vaccine?

Are there other things to be worried about with this vaccine besides thimerosol?

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Soraya

> >

>

November 8, 2011

I wouldn't, but you have to make your own choice. It is well known in

the autism community that there are a vast amount of antivirals to

choose from and also that high doses of Vitamin A has been shown to be

effective against measles (your average doc might not know any of this,

but the autism recovery docs do). Anyhow, I would be delighted if you

took the time to seek out those that died and learned the

circumstances. Like I know a girl who died from the flu because she

already was weak from cancer. And, I know a young lady who died from a

cold because she took an over-the-counter cold remedy that adversely

interacted with her prescription med. (I'll be these two got added to

the count of people who die from colds and flus.) Word is that children

die from the flu in every city every flu season. I only know this

because the news paper says so. Other than what I have already told you,

I never met anyone, nor know anyone else who has ever died of anything

other than car wrecks, pneumonia, cancer, Lyme, stroke, heart attack,

MS, dehydration, or SIDS. We have lots of SIDS in my city which I worry

about much more than measles. So, while the paper is saying kids die

from this or that, I am not seeing it. The only measles cases I have

ever heard of is from a few people on the forums saying they had a

neighbor who had it, and I have read thousands of forums posts.

If you do decide to vaccinate, remember that many recommend doing only

one vaccine at a time, only while the child is healthy (not sick with a

cold, etc.), and give lots of Vit. C. These are the recommendations I

have seen. See what your autism recovery doc says about it. Mine just

says, don't vaccinate, but it's too late for my kids. They already got

them before I learned all this.

Love and prayers,

Heidi N

Hi guys,

As you all know, there have been some recent measles cases across the

country, and several in my hometown in MD. A few people have died. My 7

year-old asd son has never received the mmr, and I'm really worried

about him contracting this disease. Our regular pediatrician just showed

me some documentation stating that none of the single-serve vials of the

mmr vaccine that she uses contain thimerosol. Should I take that at its

word and just give my son this vaccine? Are there other things to be

worried about with this vaccine besides thimerosol?

Thanks,

Soraya

November 8, 2011

also it is said that the dna from aborted fetuses in the vaccines causes a reaction that makes the body start attacking its own DNA so that your body is attacking itself...and its own brain cells that is another theory where all this brain inflammation comes from.

channa

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2011 8:45 AMSubject: Re: Measles outbreak

Yes. The vaccine itself is made with attenuated measles virus. This an altered form of the pathogen. Many people believe the problem with vaccines are the effect the pathogens have on our immune system rather than the heavy metals.>> Hi guys, > > As you all know, there have been some recent measles cases across the country, and several in my hometown in MD. A few people have died. My 7 year-old asd son has never received the mmr, and I'm really worried about him contracting this disease. Our regular pediatrician just showed me some documentation stating that none of the single-serve vials of the mmr vaccine that she uses contain thimerosol. Should I take that at its word and just give my son this vaccine? Are

there other things to be worried about with this vaccine besides thimerosol?> > Thanks,> Soraya>

November 8, 2011

You know, I asked my son's pediatrician about that before. He had no explaination. I just don't see how you can add adjuvancts to a vaccine to produce antibodies, throw human DNA into the mix, and NOT get an autoimmune response????? It just doesn't make sense - even to ME, who doesn't know horse shit.

-Tammy

To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex >Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2011 9:13 AMSubject: Re: Re: Measles outbreak

also it is said that the dna from aborted fetuses in the vaccines causes a reaction that makes the body start attacking its own DNA so that your body is attacking itself...and its own brain cells that is another theory where all this brain inflammation comes from.

channa

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2011 8:45 AMSubject: Re: Measles outbreak

Yes. The vaccine itself is made with attenuated measles virus. This an altered form of the pathogen. Many people believe the problem with vaccines are the effect the pathogens have on our immune system rather than the heavy metals.>> Hi guys, > > As you all know, there have been some recent measles cases across the country, and several in my hometown in MD. A few people have died. My 7 year-old asd son has never received the mmr, and I'm really worried about him contracting this disease. Our regular pediatrician just showed me some documentation stating that none of the single-serve vials of the mmr vaccine that she uses contain thimerosol. Should I take that at its word and just give my son this vaccine? Are

there other things to be worried about with this vaccine besides thimerosol?> > Thanks,> Soraya>

November 8, 2011

When I saw this theard I wanted to post a clip of the Brady Bunch episode where

all the kids come down with the measles, but it is no longer anywhere on the

web. The episode is called " Is There a Doctor in the House? " . The plot is this:

A couple of the Brady kids show up at home - yes, the school sent them to WALK

home since they had the measles. No ambulance, no call home, just go home! Alice

said they have all the symptoms; " fever, spots and a BIG smile " . Big smile?

Because no school for the week. Then all the Brady kids get the measles.

And so goes the episode. Carole does not think any of them will die. No one

panics, it is just normal part of childhood to laugh about and do a situation

comedy around. The year was 1969. Here is a link to the episode:

http://sharetv.org/shows/the_brady_bunch/episodes/142736

Flash foward to today, and measles is suddenly a death sentence?

The MMR has never had thimerosal in it because it is a triple live virus

vaccine. It would be safer to give the three components seperately, but the

makers have pulled the single vaccines from the market so parents are forced to

decide between the the triple shot or nothing.

But lets think back to 1969. Measles was a common childhood disease that no one

feared. But how many kids in the Brady's schools were still in diapers? How many

kids were screaming and head-banging? How many kids could were non-verbal at age

10 or above? How many kids were on medication to control seizures? To control

hyperactivity? To control violence? Hmmm.

Sylvia

>

> I wouldn't, but you have to make your own choice. It is well known in

> the autism community that there are a vast amount of antivirals to

> choose from and also that high doses of Vitamin A has been shown to be

> effective against measles (your average doc might not know any of this,

> but the autism recovery docs do). Anyhow, I would be delighted if you

> took the time to seek out those that died and learned the

> circumstances. Like I know a girl who died from the flu because she

> already was weak from cancer. And, I know a young lady who died from a

> cold because she took an over-the-counter cold remedy that adversely

> interacted with her prescription med. (I'll be these two got added to

> the count of people who die from colds and flus.) Word is that children

> die from the flu in every city every flu season. I only know this

> because the news paper says so. Other than what I have already told you,

> I never met anyone, nor know anyone else who has ever died of anything

> other than car wrecks, pneumonia, cancer, Lyme, stroke, heart attack,

> MS, dehydration, or SIDS. We have lots of SIDS in my city which I worry

> about much more than measles. So, while the paper is saying kids die

> from this or that, I am not seeing it. The only measles cases I have

> ever heard of is from a few people on the forums saying they had a

> neighbor who had it, and I have read thousands of forums posts.

>

> If you do decide to vaccinate, remember that many recommend doing only

> one vaccine at a time, only while the child is healthy (not sick with a

> cold, etc.), and give lots of Vit. C. These are the recommendations I

> have seen. See what your autism recovery doc says about it. Mine just

> says, don't vaccinate, but it's too late for my kids. They already got

> them before I learned all this.

>

> Love and prayers,

>

> Heidi N

>

> Hi guys,

>

> As you all know, there have been some recent measles cases across the

> country, and several in my hometown in MD. A few people have died. My 7

> year-old asd son has never received the mmr, and I'm really worried

> about him contracting this disease. Our regular pediatrician just showed

> me some documentation stating that none of the single-serve vials of the

> mmr vaccine that she uses contain thimerosol. Should I take that at its

> word and just give my son this vaccine? Are there other things to be

> worried about with this vaccine besides thimerosol?

>

> Thanks,

> Soraya

>

November 8, 2011

Nope, Sylvia, it's not a death sentence for the general population, but of course it is dangerous for at-risk people, and I consider my son at-risk b/c I know the state of his immune system. I always worry about him when I hear about some outbreak, but with our DAN's help we will do some other things besides the vaccine to mitigate his risk. Thanks for the advice...

When I saw this theard I wanted to post a clip of the Brady Bunch episode where all the kids come down with the measles, but it is no longer anywhere on the web. The episode is called "Is There a Doctor in the House?". The plot is this:

A couple of the Brady kids show up at home - yes, the school sent them to WALK home since they had the measles. No ambulance, no call home, just go home! Alice said they have all the symptoms; "fever, spots and a BIG smile". Big smile? Because no school for the week. Then all the Brady kids get the measles.

And so goes the episode. Carole does not think any of them will die. No one panics, it is just normal part of childhood to laugh about and do a situation comedy around. The year was 1969. Here is a link to the episode: http://sharetv.org/shows/the_brady_bunch/episodes/142736

Flash foward to today, and measles is suddenly a death sentence?

The MMR has never had thimerosal in it because it is a triple live virus vaccine. It would be safer to give the three components seperately, but the makers have pulled the single vaccines from the market so parents are forced to decide between the the triple shot or nothing.

But lets think back to 1969. Measles was a common childhood disease that no one feared. But how many kids in the Brady's schools were still in diapers? How many kids were screaming and head-banging? How many kids could were non-verbal at age 10 or above? How many kids were on medication to control seizures? To control hyperactivity? To control violence? Hmmm.