Guest guest Posted November 8, 2011 Report Share Posted November 8, 2011 Welcome, . :0) Just one person's opinion... Having seen my son regress terribly after the MMR, if I could back and undo getting that shot, I would absolutely do so. Granted, your son is older than mine, who was 23 months old when he received it, but the measles vaccine is a live virus and can do a lot of damage, especially in a person on the spectrum. Especially if your son has any GI issues at all - measles is known to be causally related to the development of Crohn's disease in some individuals, and we absolutely saw hugely negative changes in my son's digestive function after the MMR. All of this is outside the consideration of any thimerosal presence, which itself is definitely a problem, even if it is reduced. Of course, then there's the chance of contracting the actual virus, which wouldn't be good, but at least there is a chance of avoiding it. If you administer the vaccine, you are guaranteeing introduction of the virus to your child, and most ASD kiddos' immune systems are unable to suppress the virus as a typical person can, so the fact that it is a " weakened " virus is not as beneficial as it sounds on the surface. If your son forewent the vaccine and somehow contracted the measles, you can treat it with high doses of Vitamin A under a doctor's supervision. Just my thoughts. I feel so strongly on the topic of vaccines and particularly the MMR after experiencing the damage it did to my son. Even worse is the fact that we only gave the MMR to him at the urging of the doctors, and then after the fact they completely disacknowledged the negative physical impact to him and we were left to deal with the consequences on our own. Best, P.S. I'm new to the group - will try to send out a brief intro of myself soon. Just joined last week, but have been super busy at work and when I saw your post I couldn't help but to respond even though I am " stranger. " Hi guys, As you all know, there have been some recent measles cases across the country, and several in my hometown in MD. A few people have died. My 7 year-old asd son has never received the mmr, and I'm really worried about him contracting this disease. Our regular pediatrician just showed me some documentation stating that none of the single-serve vials of the mmr vaccine that she uses contain thimerosol. Should I take that at its word and just give my son this vaccine? Are there other things to be worried about with this vaccine besides thimerosol? Thanks,Soraya -- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2011 Report Share Posted November 8, 2011 Thanks, Toni! I recognize you from the low oxalate group, too. I love these groups and try to contribute when I can! Welcome, . :0) Just one person's opinion... Having seen my son regress terribly after the MMR, if I could back and undo getting that shot, I would absolutely do so. Granted, your son is older than mine, who was 23 months old when he received it, but the measles vaccine is a live virus and can do a lot of damage, especially in a person on the spectrum. Especially if your son has any GI issues at all - measles is known to be causally related to the development of Crohn's disease in some individuals, and we absolutely saw hugely negative changes in my son's digestive function after the MMR. All of this is outside the consideration of any thimerosal presence, which itself is definitely a problem, even if it is reduced. Of course, then there's the chance of contracting the actual virus, which wouldn't be good, but at least there is a chance of avoiding it. If you administer the vaccine, you are guaranteeing introduction of the virus to your child, and most ASD kiddos' immune systems are unable to suppress the virus as a typical person can, so the fact that it is a " weakened " virus is not as beneficial as it sounds on the surface. If your son forewent the vaccine and somehow contracted the measles, you can treat it with high doses of Vitamin A under a doctor's supervision. Just my thoughts. I feel so strongly on the topic of vaccines and particularly the MMR after experiencing the damage it did to my son. Even worse is the fact that we only gave the MMR to him at the urging of the doctors, and then after the fact they completely disacknowledged the negative physical impact to him and we were left to deal with the consequences on our own. Best, P.S. I'm new to the group - will try to send out a brief intro of myself soon. Just joined last week, but have been super busy at work and when I saw your post I couldn't help but to respond even though I am " stranger. " Hi guys, As you all know, there have been some recent measles cases across the country, and several in my hometown in MD. A few people have died. My 7 year-old asd son has never received the mmr, and I'm really worried about him contracting this disease. Our regular pediatrician just showed me some documentation stating that none of the single-serve vials of the mmr vaccine that she uses contain thimerosol. Should I take that at its word and just give my son this vaccine? Are there other things to be worried about with this vaccine besides thimerosol? Thanks,Soraya -- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2011 Report Share Posted November 8, 2011 An involved doctor who used to post on the EOH site says that, yes, it did used to have Hg and I believe him. Why else would it be reported in the news that the jab " doesn't have it and never has. " > > ________________________________ > > To: mb12valtrex > Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2011 9:56 AM > Subject: Re: Measles outbreak > > >... > The MMR has never had thimerosal in it because it is a triple live virus vaccine... > > Sylvia > > > > > > I wouldn't, but you have to make your own choice. It is well known in > > the autism community that there are a vast amount of antivirals to > > choose from and also that high doses of Vitamin A has been shown to be > > effective against measles (your average doc might not know any of this, > > but the autism recovery docs do). Anyhow, I would be delighted if you > > took the time to seek out those that died and learned the > > circumstances. Like I know a girl who died from the flu because she > > already was weak from cancer. And, I know a young lady who died from a > > cold because she took an over-the-counter cold remedy that adversely > > interacted with her prescription med. (I'll be these two got added to > > the count of people who die from colds and flus.) Word is that children > > die from the flu in every city every flu season. I only know this > > because the news paper says so. Other than what I have already told you, > > I never met anyone, nor know anyone else who has ever died of anything > > other than car wrecks, pneumonia, cancer, Lyme, stroke, heart attack, > > MS, dehydration, or SIDS. We have lots of SIDS in my city which I worry > > about much more than measles. So, while the paper is saying kids die > > from this or that, I am not seeing it. The only measles cases I have > > ever heard of is from a few people on the forums saying they had a > > neighbor who had it, and I have read thousands of forums posts. > > > > If you do decide to vaccinate, remember that many recommend doing only > > one vaccine at a time, only while the child is healthy (not sick with a > > cold, etc.), and give lots of Vit. C. These are the recommendations I > > have seen. See what your autism recovery doc says about it. Mine just > > says, don't vaccinate, but it's too late for my kids. They already got > > them before I learned all this. > > > > Love and prayers, > > > > Heidi N > > > > > > Hi guys, > > > > As you all know, there have been some recent measles cases across the > > country, and several in my hometown in MD. A few people have died. My 7 > > year-old asd son has never received the mmr, and I'm really worried > > about him contracting this disease. Our regular pediatrician just showed > > me some documentation stating that none of the single-serve vials of the > > mmr vaccine that she uses contain thimerosol. Should I take that at its > > word and just give my son this vaccine? Are there other things to be > > worried about with this vaccine besides thimerosol? > > > > Thanks, > > Soraya > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2011 Report Share Posted November 8, 2011 well said...it is so important we all tell our story that is the only way to save other kids.. channa To: mb12valtrex Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 1:24 PMSubject: Re: Measles outbreak Just one person's opinion... Having seen my son regress terribly after the MMR, if I could back and undo getting that shot, I would absolutely do so. Granted, your son is older than mine, who was 23 months old when he received it, but the measles vaccine is a live virus and can do a lot of damage, especially in a person on the spectrum. Especially if your son has any GI issues at all - measles is known to be causally related to the development of Crohn's disease in some individuals, and we absolutely saw hugely negative changes in my son's digestive function after the MMR. All of this is outside the consideration of any thimerosal presence, which itself is definitely a problem, even if it is reduced. Of course, then there's the chance of contracting the actual virus, which wouldn't be good, but at least there is a chance of avoiding it. If you administer the vaccine, you are guaranteeing introduction of the virus to your child, and most ASD kiddos' immune systems are unable to suppress the virus as a typical person can, so the fact that it is a "weakened" virus is not as beneficial as it sounds on the surface. If your son forewent the vaccine and somehow contracted the measles, you can treat it with high doses of Vitamin A under a doctor's supervision. Just my thoughts. I feel so strongly on the topic of vaccines and particularly the MMR after experiencing the damage it did to my son. Even worse is the fact that we only gave the MMR to him at the urging of the doctors, and then after the fact they completely disacknowledged the negative physical impact to him and we were left to deal with the consequences on our own. Best, P.S. I'm new to the group - will try to send out a brief intro of myself soon. Just joined last week, but have been super busy at work and when I saw your post I couldn't help but to respond even though I am "stranger." Hi guys, As you all know, there have been some recent measles cases across the country, and several in my hometown in MD. A few people have died. My 7 year-old asd son has never received the mmr, and I'm really worried about him contracting this disease. Our regular pediatrician just showed me some documentation stating that none of the single-serve vials of the mmr vaccine that she uses contain thimerosol. Should I take that at its word and just give my son this vaccine? Are there other things to be worried about with this vaccine besides thimerosol?Thanks,Soraya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 Thermosol isn't the only thing to worry about, aside from possibility of the vaccine creating chronic gut/brain issues. The shot contains aluminum and other preservatives that could be problematic in some individuals. Does your son have ashma or any other underlying chronic issues? Hi guys, As you all know, there have been some recent measles cases across the country, and several in my hometown in MD. A few people have died. My 7 year-old asd son has never received the mmr, and I'm really worried about him contracting this disease. Our regular pediatrician just showed me some documentation stating that none of the single-serve vials of the mmr vaccine that she uses contain thimerosol. Should I take that at its word and just give my son this vaccine? Are there other things to be worried about with this vaccine besides thimerosol? Thanks,Soraya -- Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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