Re: Stress and Disease

[Guest guest]

It's probably not the stress per se, it is most likely the stress hormones our

bodies produce as a result of stress. Sometimes the stress hormones never shut

down.

Stress causes the adrenals to secrete adrenaline and

cortisol. Cortisol increases gradually to a peak and then starts to drop down.

However it does not always drop down, sometimes it stays high and then chronic

adrenal fatigue sets in causing all sorts of problems including anxiety,

depression, and many other mental problems for which all sorts of drugs are

prescribed.

Also see:

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/stress/SR00001

Ora

On Wed, 4 Apr 2007 09:31:21 -0700 (PDT), Lynn Dudenhoefer renlyn64@...>

wrote:

>One last thing ladies,

> I recently read an article in good housekeeping on a new study that

> revealed that about 85% of illness is related to stress. Does that mean

> that our illness is not real??? I don't think so. But I know it made me take

> a hard look in the mirror and I can tell you that the stress in my life

before this all

> started was off the charts.

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[Guest guest]

> I recently read an article in good housekeeping on

a new study that

> revealed that about 85% of illness is related to

stress.

I guess I don't have a lot of belief that stress is

the primary (starting, cause, beginning) problem

causing illness. I think the illness, whatever the

cause, is what causes the body to be in stress.

Illness causes the body to be stressed.

It is too easy for docs to blame stress for symptoms

they don't understand. Even as that article by Dr.

LIbby says, docs have blamed psychological problems

for women's pain and illness forever.

If a person is well I think they can handle stress

pretty well. If they are not well, stress just puts

one over the top. Of course there are life devastating

events that if they continue to be unsolved or

unresolved can affect the mind and body in a lot of

ways but how it can cause vulvar disorders is dubious.

I don't think stress has much to do with gyn

disorders--even hormone dysfunction. I say look for

the disease--chemistry-- and don't believe too easily

the psychological part. If there is a hormone

dysfunction, find the cause (physical). You know if

your life is so stressful that it is killing you. If

so one should really take emergency steps if possible

to get out of situations like that. Just my opinions.

Being told that " stress " is the cause of my health

problems would really infuriate me. To write an

article saying that " stress " is responsible for 85% of

health problems is irresponsible and stupid in my

opinion.

I once went to a doc to see why I was so sick. His

answer was, " You only have two children. My wife has

four. What's the matter with you that you can't

cope? " .

Well, of course that is what I went to the silly fool

to find out. His diagnosis and prescription for my

fatique and other symptoms was to tell me to only iron

the front part of my husband's shirts since the rest

of the shirt was hidden by the jacket. Even in my

really ill condition I recognized that the guy was a

charlatan and on an ego trip. There are lots of them.

Lots of chaff out there. Not nice. I think it is

called sorting the wheat from the chaff and we all

have to do it in our own way and form our own

opinions.

Arline

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BABB wrote:>>>>Illness causes the body to be stressed. Hey Arline, isn't that the truth. Pain will definitely lead to stress, then you have a vicious cycle. I'd say there are many components to what all stress can do. I don't think I developed vulvar pain, Endo, IC or PN due to stress...but those conditions sure have caused a lot stress over the years. On the other hand, though, I do believe that when you are 'stressed' over a particular situation, that can definitely impact the body physically. Hugs, Chelle

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I don't know if they mean you get sick because of stress, but maybe that if one is stressed that it might be more likely to to let yourself becoe ill or be open to more transmittable diseases. For example when it comes close to writing papers or big tests if someone is sick around kmke I'm more likely to get it than if I'm on summer vacation. For them to say that stress is the only cause, that i disagree with. I can't say personally that i rule stress out. aIt can put the body through allot especially if people don't know how to deal with it. If there is some good relaxxing way a person deals with stress than again it will be less likely to affect them. Just my thoughts.

candi

Re: Stress and Disease

BABB <pajaritomountain (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:>>>>Illness causes the body to be stressed.

Hey Arline, isn't that the truth. Pain will definitely lead to stress, then you have a vicious cycle. I'd say there are many components to what all stress can do. I don't think I developed vulvar pain, Endo, IC or PN due to stress...but those conditions sure have caused a lot stress over the years.

On the other hand, though, I do believe that when you are 'stressed' over a particular situation, that can definitely impact the body physically. Hugs, Chelle

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"

Being told that " stress " is the cause of my health problems would really infuriate me. " A few years ago, I went to my primary doctor because I was getting really, really dizzy when I stood-up. I still get really dizzy when standing-up from a laying position, but there isn't really anything they can do for that. The difference is that at that time, I would actually pass out when this happened! It was very scary, and I obviously felt like something was wrong and wanted to know why this was happening.

My doctor's response: " You are under too much stress. And you don't know how to relax. So your body is forcing you to take a break and rest, by making you pass-out. " EXCUSE ME??? I mean, sure I was under stress, but I was not under any more stress than I had been previously. And I didn't buy this as a valid explanation for a second.

Later, I went to a Cardiologist. Turns out my passing-out was actually because a medication I was on at the time was causing my blood-pressure, which is already low to begin with, to drop to dangerously low levels, causing me to pass-out because the blood was not getting to my brain. This had *nothing* to do with stress.

So, IMO, stress can exacerbate existing conditions, but if a doctor tells you that stress is *the cause* of your condition and you disagree, you should find another opinion, because there is a legitimate medical reason, even if they don't know it.

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[Guest guest]

Hi Chelle,

We all have to figure it out for ourselves of course

but I can't believe that stress causes anything to do

with vulvodynia.

I also believe that people sometimes think they are

suffering from stress when they actually have anxiety

which is very different. Anxiety is a built in disease

I believe. I suspect they both feel the same however.

Sometimes one can find the cause of anxiety _(the

physical cause).

Arline

>

> BABB pajaritomountain@...> wrote:

>

> >>>>Illness causes the body to be stressed.

>

>

> Hey Arline, isn't that the truth. Pain will

> definitely lead to stress, then you have a vicious

> cycle. I'd say there are many components to what

> all stress can do. I don't think I developed vulvar

> pain, Endo, IC or PN due to stress...but those

> conditions sure have caused a lot stress over the

> years.

>

> On the other hand, though, I do believe that when

> you are 'stressed' over a particular situation, that

> can definitely impact the body physically. Hugs,

> Chelle

>

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My Vulvodynia does get worse when I'm under a lot of stress. Last year, when I was working and going to school at night, it flared up during exams. It was HORRIBLE. I do believe there is a connection between stress and V. BABB wrote: Hi Chelle,We all have to figure it out for ourselves of coursebut I can't believe that stress causes anything to dowith vulvodynia.I also believe that people sometimes think they aresuffering from stress when they actually have anxietywhich is very different. Anxiety is a built in diseaseI believe. I suspect they both feel the same however.Sometimes one can find the cause of anxiety _(thephysical cause).Arline> > BABB wrote:> >

>>>>Illness causes the body to be stressed.> > > Hey Arline, isn't that the truth. Pain will> definitely lead to stress, then you have a vicious> cycle. I'd say there are many components to what> all stress can do. I don't think I developed vulvar> pain, Endo, IC or PN due to stress...but those> conditions sure have caused a lot stress over the> years. > > On the other hand, though, I do believe that when> you are 'stressed' over a particular situation, that> can definitely impact the body physically. Hugs,> Chelle> ____________________________________________________________________________________You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com------------------------------------**IF REPLYING TO THIS POST, PLEASE REMOVE

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I think being stressed out can make any disease or pain worse.

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Arline,I do see a strong connection. Granted, not everyone, obviously, who's stressed developes problems in their pelvic region. But this area is onethat many people tighten unconsciously when under stress. And that chronic tension can lead over time to a decrease in blood flow and, in many cases, trigger points in the muscles. . . which exert pressure on various nerves that enervate the rectum, vagina, and urethra. . . which,in susceptible people, can lead to pelvic pain in all its various manifestations.And that, i believe, is why pelvic PT can often be so effective, since itaddresses these connections.Hollis  BABB <pajaritomountain@... > wrote:  Hi Chelle,We all have to figure it out for ourselves of coursebut I can't believe that stress causes anything to dowith vulvodynia.I also believe that people sometimes think they aresuffering from stress when they actually have anxietywhich is very different. Anxiety is a built in diseaseI believe. I suspect they both feel the same however.Sometimes one can find the cause of anxiety _(thephysical cause).Arline> > BABB wrote:> >>>>> Illness causes the body to be stressed.> > > Hey Arline, isn't that the truth. Pain will> definitely lead to stress, then you have a vicious> cycle. I'd say there are many components to what> all stress can do. I don't think I developed vulvar> pain, Endo, IC or PN due to stress...but those> conditions sure have caused a lot stress over the> years. > > On the other hand, though, I do believe that when> you are 'stressed' over a particular situation, that> can definitely impact the body physically. Hugs,> Chelle> ____________________________________________________________________________________You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com ------------------------------------**IF REPLYING TO THIS POST, PLEASE REMOVE ORIGINAL POST, Thanks for your cooperation! *****

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Hi Hollis,

Always interesting to get your input.

I think physical therapy is good because it does what

you probably suggest--it makes it feel better--but

probably temporarily.

All of these things are connected but I don't believe

that because one is under stress a woman can cause all

of these things to happen. I could be wrong but I

think it is much more related to physical disease. I

don't hear much about people having therapy to learn

how to deal with stress on this list. If they do and

it is successful we maybe should hear about it. If it

is stress maybe the answer is more simple.

I had so many trigger points and muscle spasms,

urethral spasms, etc., I was in constant pain.

Actually I was so sick that whatever stress I had was

hidden in the illness and was very secondary although

I had a lot of things to stress about

(understatement). I am glad I never got involved with

trigger point injections, PT, and whatever else is

offered out there in relation to this as it wouldn't

have helped a bit on a permanent basis. I was tempted

however.

For those of you who have faith in it and for whom it

has lasting relief or even temporary relief I think it

is great.

Arline

>

>

>

> Arline,

>

> I do see a strong connection. Granted, not

> everyone, obviously, who's

> stressed developes problems in their pelvic region.

> But this area is

> one

> that many people tighten unconsciously when under

> stress. And that

> chronic tension can lead over time to a decrease in

> blood flow and, in

> many cases, trigger points in the muscles. . . which

> exert pressure on

> various nerves that enervate the rectum, vagina, and

> urethra. . . which,

> in susceptible people, can lead to pelvic pain in

> all its various

> manifestations.

> And that, i believe, is why pelvic PT can often be

> so effective, since

> it

> addresses these connections.

>

> Hollis

>  

>

> BABB pajaritomountain@...

> pajaritomountain@...>  

> pajaritomountain@...> > wrote:

>   Hi Chelle,

>

> We all have to figure it out for ourselves of course

> but I can't believe that stress causes anything to

> do

> with vulvodynia.

>

> I also believe that people sometimes think they are

> suffering from stress when they actually have

> anxiety

> which is very different. Anxiety is a built in

> disease

> I believe. I suspect they both feel the same

> however.

> Sometimes one can find the cause of anxiety _(the

> physical cause).

>

> Arline

> >

> > BABB

> wrote:

> >

> >>>>> Illness causes the body to be stressed.

> >

> >

> > Hey Arline, isn't that the truth. Pain will

> > definitely lead to stress, then you have a vicious

> > cycle. I'd say there are many components to what

> > all stress can do. I don't think I developed

> vulvar

> > pain, Endo, IC or PN due to stress...but those

> > conditions sure have caused a lot stress over the

> > years.

> > On the other hand, though, I do believe that when

> > you are 'stressed' over a particular situation,

> that

> > can definitely impact the body physically. Hugs,

> > Chelle

> >

>

>

>

>

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