Guest guest Posted May 2, 2011 Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 My 11 year old child has always had a problem maintaining sleep. She winds down and goes to sleep okay, however more ofen than not, she is up around 3:00 AM and then gradually goes back to sleep for a little bit before it's time to wake up. She's always been a bit hyper, but rarely complains that she is tired. I was wondering, is this a common problem with our kids? And what have others done to help this situation. It seems to me, that perhaps a consistent good night's rest might help her, but since she's always been this way, I'm not sure. I want to emphasize, the problem is not going to sleep, but rather getting a full night's sleep. Any input on this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2011 Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 My child is a good sleeper but we use 5 HTP anyway each evening before going to bed. It is a natural amino acid and it assists with sleeping. About every four to five months my son starts waking up at around 3:30 am. I know this means he has a yeast overgrowth and once we finish treating that he stops waking up in the middle of the night until the yeast builds back up again. Have you had your daughter checked for yeast and bacteria overgrowth in the GI tract? Sleep maintenance for our kids My 11 year old child has always had a problem maintaining sleep. She winds down and goes to sleep okay, however more ofen than not, she is up around 3:00 AM and then gradually goes back to sleep for a little bit before it's time to wake up. She's always been a bit hyper, but rarely complains that she is tired. I was wondering, is this a common problem with our kids? And what have others done to help this situation. It seems to me, that perhaps a consistent good night's rest might help her, but since she's always been this way, I'm not sure. I want to emphasize, the problem is not going to sleep, but rather getting a full night's sleep. Any input on this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2011 Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 Thanks for your input. What is HTP? My daughter has had a history of yeast overgrowth, however it's been a few years since I've tested her. Unfortunately, my insurance doesn't cover this type of testing so financially I can't do another testing right now. Subject: Re: Sleep maintenance for our kidsTo: sList Date: Monday, May 2, 2011, 11:45 AM My child is a good sleeper but we use 5 HTP anyway each evening before going to bed. It is a natural amino acid and it assists with sleeping. About every four to five months my son starts waking up at around 3:30 am. I know this means he has a yeast overgrowth and once we finish treating that he stops waking up in the middle of the night until the yeast builds back up again. Have you had your daughter checked for yeast and bacteria overgrowth in the GI tract? Sleep maintenance for our kids My 11 year old child has always had a problem maintaining sleep. She winds down and goes to sleep okay, however more ofen than not, she is up around 3:00 AM and then gradually goes back to sleep for a little bit before it's time to wake up. She's always been a bit hyper, but rarely complains that she is tired. I was wondering, is this a common problem with our kids? And what have others done to help this situation. It seems to me, that perhaps a consistent good night's rest might help her, but since she's always been this way, I'm not sure. I want to emphasize, the problem is not going to sleep, but rather getting a full night's sleep. Any input on this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2011 Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 I do not test for it every time he gets it, I just know the signs and have his DAN Dr. call in a script for Diflucan and begin the treatments. 5 HTP is what your body converts Tryptophan into. It is a natural calmer. You can get it at any health food store. Sleep maintenance for our kids My 11 year old child has always had a problem maintaining sleep. She winds down and goes to sleep okay, however more ofen than not, she is up around 3:00 AM and then gradually goes back to sleep for a little bit before it's time to wake up. She's always been a bit hyper, but rarely complains that she is tired. I was wondering, is this a common problem with our kids? And what have others done to help this situation. It seems to me, that perhaps a consistent good night's rest might help her, but since she's always been this way, I'm not sure. I want to emphasize, the problem is not going to sleep, but rather getting a full night's sleep. Any input on this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2011 Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 5 HTP is 5 Hydroxytryptophan is a converted form of tryptophan the amino acid which helps the body relax and sleep. Thanks for your input. What is HTP? My daughter has had a history of yeast overgrowth, however it's been a few years since I've tested her. Unfortunately, my insurance doesn't cover this type of testing so financially I can't do another testing right now. Subject: Re: Sleep maintenance for our kidsTo: sList Date: Monday, May 2, 2011, 11:45 AM My child is a good sleeper but we use 5 HTP anyway each evening before going to bed. It is a natural amino acid and it assists with sleeping. About every four to five months my son starts waking up at around 3:30 am. I know this means he has a yeast overgrowth and once we finish treating that he stops waking up in the middle of the night until the yeast builds back up again. Have you had your daughter checked for yeast and bacteria overgrowth in the GI tract? Sleep maintenance for our kids My 11 year old child has always had a problem maintaining sleep. She winds down and goes to sleep okay, however more ofen than not, she is up around 3:00 AM and then gradually goes back to sleep for a little bit before it's time to wake up. She's always been a bit hyper, but rarely complains that she is tired. I was wondering, is this a common problem with our kids? And what have others done to help this situation. It seems to me, that perhaps a consistent good night's rest might help her, but since she's always been this way, I'm not sure. I want to emphasize, the problem is not going to sleep, but rather getting a full night's sleep. Any input on this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2011 Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 What are the signs? Sleep maintenance for our kids My 11 year old child has always had a problem maintaining sleep. She winds down and goes to sleep okay, however more ofen than not, she is up around 3:00 AM and then gradually goes back to sleep for a little bit before it's time to wake up. She's always been a bit hyper, but rarely complains that she is tired. I was wondering, is this a common problem with our kids? And what have others done to help this situation. It seems to me, that perhaps a consistent good night's rest might help her, but since she's always been this way, I'm not sure. I want to emphasize, the problem is not going to sleep, but rather getting a full night's sleep. Any input on this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2011 Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 Is there any validity to the "yeast test" of spitting into a glass of water??? http://www.adhdrelief.com/CandidaTest.html  Thanks for your input.  What is HTP?  My daughter has had a history of yeast overgrowth, however it's been a few years since I've tested her. Unfortunately, my insurance doesn't cover this type of testing so financially I can't do another testing right now.   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2011 Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 I never heard of this spitting test you are referring to. If I am ever in doubt of yeast levels we just do a MOAT teast from Great Plains Labratories. My insurance covers it so we do them about every three months or so. Re: Sleep maintenance for our kids Is there any validity to the "yeast test" of spitting into a glass of water??? http://www.adhdrelief.com/CandidaTest.html Thanks for your input. What is HTP? My daughter has had a history of yeast overgrowth, however it's been a few years since I've tested her. Unfortunately, my insurance doesn't cover this type of testing so financially I can't do another testing right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2011 Report Share Posted May 2, 2011 Yes Great Plains Laboratory is really the specialist on yeast and yeast by products. The first test I ever did on my son was with Dr. Shaw back in 1994 before he had started Great Plains Labs. I never heard of this spitting test you are referring to. If I am ever in doubt of yeast levels we just do a MOAT teast from Great Plains Labratories. My insurance covers it so we do them about every three months or so. Re: Sleep maintenance for our kids Is there any validity to the "yeast test" of spitting into a glass of water???http://www.adhdrelief.com/CandidaTest.htmlOn 5/2/2011 12:25 PM, A P wrote: Thanks for your input. What is HTP? My daughter has had a history of yeast overgrowth, however it's been a few years since I've tested her. Unfortunately, my insurance doesn't cover this type of testing so financially I can't do another testing right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2011 Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 we have the same problem and what has helped us is Melatonin with GABA. We buy it at NutitionSmart in Pembroke Pines. > > > My 11 year old child has always had a problem maintaining sleep. She winds down and goes to sleep okay, however more ofen than not, she is up around 3:00 AM and then gradually goes back to sleep for a little bit before it's time to wake up. She's always been a bit hyper, but rarely complains that she is tired. >  > I was wondering, is this a common problem with our kids? And what have others done to help this situation. It seems to me, that perhaps a consistent good night's rest might help her, but since she's always been this way, I'm not sure. >  > I want to emphasize, the problem is not going to sleep, but rather getting a full night's sleep. >  > Any input on this would be greatly appreciated. >  > Thanks. >  > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2011 Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 I agree... When my son has yeast/bacteria is when he has the night wakings and cannot go back to sleep... As he's gotten older, we have relied less on meds and more on probiotics, olive leaf extract, etc. Seems to help within a couple days. Before treating, with biomed, diet, it was a regular and frequent occurrence. It doesn't have to be this way is the most important thing to know! Sent from my iPhone My child is a good sleeper but we use 5 HTP anyway each evening before going to bed. It is a natural amino acid and it assists with sleeping. About every four to five months my son starts waking up at around 3:30 am. I know this means he has a yeast overgrowth and once we finish treating that he stops waking up in the middle of the night until the yeast builds back up again. Have you had your daughter checked for yeast and bacteria overgrowth in the GI tract? Sleep maintenance for our kids My 11 year old child has always had a problem maintaining sleep. She winds down and goes to sleep okay, however more ofen than not, she is up around 3:00 AM and then gradually goes back to sleep for a little bit before it's time to wake up. She's always been a bit hyper, but rarely complains that she is tired. I was wondering, is this a common problem with our kids? And what have others done to help this situation. It seems to me, that perhaps a consistent good night's rest might help her, but since she's always been this way, I'm not sure. I want to emphasize, the problem is not going to sleep, but rather getting a full night's sleep. Any input on this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2011 Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 At some point, you can look at her behaviors and symptoms to see if she's demonstrating issues. And like I said in a previous post, we used to treat with meds but now use more naturals including rotating probiotics, olive leaf extract, sometimes garlic and others. I don't believe I've done labs on my son in 2 years, just monitor symptoms. We just know him well enough now to know when he's not balanced.Sent from my iPhone Thanks for your input. What is HTP? My daughter has had a history of yeast overgrowth, however it's been a few years since I've tested her. Unfortunately, my insurance doesn't cover this type of testing so financially I can't do another testing right now. Subject: Re: Sleep maintenance for our kidsTo: sList Date: Monday, May 2, 2011, 11:45 AM My child is a good sleeper but we use 5 HTP anyway each evening before going to bed. It is a natural amino acid and it assists with sleeping. About every four to five months my son starts waking up at around 3:30 am. I know this means he has a yeast overgrowth and once we finish treating that he stops waking up in the middle of the night until the yeast builds back up again. Have you had your daughter checked for yeast and bacteria overgrowth in the GI tract? Sleep maintenance for our kids My 11 year old child has always had a problem maintaining sleep. She winds down and goes to sleep okay, however more ofen than not, she is up around 3:00 AM and then gradually goes back to sleep for a little bit before it's time to wake up. She's always been a bit hyper, but rarely complains that she is tired. I was wondering, is this a common problem with our kids? And what have others done to help this situation. It seems to me, that perhaps a consistent good night's rest might help her, but since she's always been this way, I'm not sure. I want to emphasize, the problem is not going to sleep, but rather getting a full night's sleep. Any input on this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2011 Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 I read about the spit test and I don't know. Seems strange. I will admit I fail it and my son is biologically mine... By fail, I mean, it appears I'm loaded with yeast...LOL.Whereas my partner passes it... Sent from my iPhone I never heard of this spitting test you are referring to. If I am ever in doubt of yeast levels we just do a MOAT teast from Great Plains Labratories. My insurance covers it so we do them about every three months or so. Re: Sleep maintenance for our kids Is there any validity to the "yeast test" of spitting into a glass of water??? http://www.adhdrelief.com/CandidaTest.html Thanks for your input. What is HTP? My daughter has had a history of yeast overgrowth, however it's been a few years since I've tested her. Unfortunately, my insurance doesn't cover this type of testing so financially I can't do another testing right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2011 Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 My nine year old has some minor sleep issues as well. She normally winds down and goes to sleep okay, but also sometimes wakes up in the middle of the night, sometimes for several hours before going back to sleep. She is also pretty hyper and never seems to be tired during the day, even after missing a good night's sleep. Usually, following a night of being up during the night, she sleeps solid the next night. I have been told by her teachers that this is common for our kids. For awhile I tried melatonin but this actually seemed to make her more likely to wake up in the middle of the night after crashing hard, and then it did nothing to put her back to sleep. It's just one of the things I've learned to accept about my amazing, wonderful child who teaches me so much about life. > > > My 11 year old child has always had a problem maintaining sleep. She winds down and goes to sleep okay, however more ofen than not, she is up around 3:00 AM and then gradually goes back to sleep for a little bit before it's time to wake up. She's always been a bit hyper, but rarely complains that she is tired. >  > I was wondering, is this a common problem with our kids? And what have others done to help this situation. It seems to me, that perhaps a consistent good night's rest might help her, but since she's always been this way, I'm not sure. >  > I want to emphasize, the problem is not going to sleep, but rather getting a full night's sleep. >  > Any input on this would be greatly appreciated. >  > Thanks. >  > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2011 Report Share Posted May 3, 2011 Try this: A drop of essential oil on her pillow. One that she really likes. Ask her to help you pick a good one. We use this technique as part of our overall treatment for sleep, but this technique alone seems to be a big help in most cases. If you're lucky, it will help you too. You should know after the first couple of nights. Sometimes the first night is weird, not worse, just different. Some additional reading if you are into this kind of stuff: Arzi A, Sela L, Green A, Givaty G, Dagan Y, Sobel N. " The Influence of Odorants on Respiratory Patterns in Sleep. " Chemical Senses 35, no. 1 (2009): 31-40. Badia, P., et al. " Responsiveness to Olfactory Stimuli Presented in Sleep. " Physiology and Behavior 48 (1990): 87-90. Carskadon MA, Herz RS. " Minimal Olfactory Perception During Sleep: Why Odor Alarms Will Not Work for Humans. " Sleep 27, no. 3 (2004): 402-05. Goel N, Kim H, Lao RP. " An Olfactory Stimulus Modifies Nighttime Sleep in Young Men and Women. " International Society for Chronobiology 22, no. 5 (2005): 889-904. Sullivan RM, Taborsky-Barba S, Mendoza R, Itano A, Leon M, Cotman CW, Payne TF, Lott I. " Olfactory Classical Conditioning in Neonates. " Pediatrics 87, no. 4 (1991): 511-18. Sullivan RM, Toubas P. " Clinical Usefulness of Maternal Odor in Newborns: Soothing and Feeding Preparatory Responses. " Biology of the Neonate 74, no. 6 (1998): 402-08. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2011 Report Share Posted May 5, 2011 I've only recently learned that low iron can cause inability to stay asleep. My dtr has severe recurring anemia (both B12 and Iron deficiency). When ferritin is down (which happens before low hemoglobin shows up) the wakefulness can begin. As we speak she's getting her IV iron infusion...one @ week for 8 weeks. This is her 4th session this year. I feel like we're back in the bad old days when she never stayed asleep. Couldn't hurt to get a ferritin level next time you have a blood draw. Just to be sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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