Guest guest Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 oh crap. i am sorry..I thought I kept article..I wiz thru so many things...sometimes i think i kept when i didnt. with all the crap I am goin thru i am even more absent minded bout stuff.. basically the article said copper is to qiute inflammation...zinc is to speed up the immune system....so if you are dealing with an overactive immune system AKA too much inflammation you body is goin to dump all reserves into blood stream trying to bring down all that inflammation...thats why you see such high copper in our kids.. I knew i was on to smething when one of the other moms from diffrent group said her kids hair was turning grey..and that is a sign of copper defieciency..in that other group the motto was zinc zinc and more zinc..so no one would listen to me. sigh. how can i go up against the almighty DAM docters. anyways....I stumbled apon copper cuz my son had signs of hyperthyriodism copper is used to treat this.. my son became so calm and happy when i gave it to him...I backed of thinking maybe the docters were right and I was wrong about the copper theory. but I just ordered some more copper sebacate....for my son and my own migraines from hell. I dont swear by anything but this is what I have used and found to work for me. channa To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 5:09 PMSubject: Re: cactus juice/antiinflammatory would love to see that! To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 5:06 PMSubject: Re: cactus juice/antiinflammatory Mhel, where is your kids inflammation? if it is in the gut..i swear by the bakin soda and benedryl combo... if it is the brain...i have a great article on copper sebecate as a great antiinflammatory.. the body uses copper to fight inflammation that is why so many kids test high in copper because the body is using it not because it has to much of it...that is one theory any ways if any one wants I can post the article channa To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 3:43 PMSubject: RE: cactus juice/antiinflammatory Thank you for the post. God bless you andyour family in moving overseas, same withChanna. I wonder if both of you are movingtoward same place? Take care, Mhel To: mb12valtrex From: channabrennon@...Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 12:38:27 -0800Subject: Re: cactus juice/antiinflammatory tunde..i am thinking of moving overseas as well....I tried the napolea cactus juice by trivita...is this the one you ere using? i am looking for easy acess supplements once I move over seas...let me know..what works for you ..i would appreciate the info:) channa To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 3:05 PMSubject: cactus juice/antiinflammatory Hi,I few months ago i was talking about the cactus juice i used for my son's brain inflammation. There were some people from overseas wanted to get the juice but they do not ship overseas.Now I had to move overseas and i did not want to give this up for my son. I searched and came up with this site. It is in powdered form and they ship everywhere and we just have to add water.here is the site http://www.nopalexport.com/contactus.htmI did not try it yet but ordering it tonight. I will let you all know if there is any difference in this product.Hope it will be some help for some of you.Tunde Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 Do you use a powder or a liquid copper.Do you buy it as a combo with zinc?Am I understanding you right, that copper helps with inflammation? Thanks,Tammy F.  oh crap. i am sorry..I thought I kept article..I wiz thru so many things...sometimes i think i kept when i didnt. with all the crap I am goin thru i am even more absent minded bout stuff..     basically the article said copper is to qiute inflammation...zinc is to speed up the immune system....so if you are dealing with an overactive immune system AKA too much inflammation you body is goin to dump all reserves into blood stream trying to bring down all that inflammation...thats why you see such high copper in our kids.. I knew i was on to smething when one of the other moms from diffrent group said her kids hair was turning grey..and that is a sign of copper defieciency..in that other group the motto was zinc zinc and more zinc..so no one would listen to me. sigh. how can i go up against the almighty DAM docters.   anyways....I stumbled apon copper cuz my son had signs of hyperthyriodism  copper is used to treat this.. my son became so calm and happy when i gave it to him...I backed of thinking maybe the docters were right and I was wrong about the copper theory. but I just ordered some more copper sebacate....for my son and my own migraines from hell. I dont swear by anything but this is what I have used and found to work for me. channa  From: T Lynn To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 5:09 PM Subject: Re: cactus juice/antiinflammatory  would love to see that! From: Channa Brennon To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 5:06 PM Subject: Re: cactus juice/antiinflammatory  Mhel, where is your kids inflammation? if it is in the gut..i swear by the bakin soda and benedryl combo... if it is the brain...i have a great article on copper sebecate as a great antiinflammatory.. the body uses copper to fight inflammation that is why so many kids test high in copper because the body is using it not because it has to much of it...that is one theory any ways if any one wants I can post the article channa From: Abenir Ilasin To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 3:43 PM Subject: RE: cactus juice/antiinflammatory  Thank you for the post. God bless you and your family in moving overseas, same with Channa. I wonder if both of you are moving toward same place?                                          Take care,                                            Mhel                                                    To: mb12valtrex From: channabrennon@... Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 12:38:27 -0800 Subject: Re: cactus juice/antiinflammatory  tunde..i am thinking of moving overseas as well....I tried the napolea cactus juice by trivita...is this the one you ere using? i am looking for easy acess supplements once I move over seas...let me know..what works for you ...i would appreciate the info:) channa From: Jaqueline To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 3:05 PM Subject: cactus juice/antiinflammatory  Hi, I few months ago i was talking about the cactus juice i used for my son's brain inflammation. There were some people from overseas wanted to get the juice but they do not ship overseas. Now I had to move overseas and i did not want to give this up for my son. I searched and came up with this site. It is in powdered form and they ship everywhere and we just have to add water. here is the site http://www.nopalexport.com/contactus.htm I did not try it yet but ordering it tonight. I will let you all know if there is any difference in this product. Hope it will be some help for some of you. Tunde Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 I just came across this at a website that Discusses Klinghardt's protocol for kpu: ANOTHER SCHOOL OF THOUGHT High toxic copper may indicate the child is copper deficient. Not having the right form of copper may cause individuals to hold on to un-usable toxic copper. When zinc will not drive down the copper, suspect this as the possible reason. In this case you may choose to give the child the correct form and size of copper in small amounts each night and within several months the toxic copper levels may fall.†-Jim from WHM.com Could this be what you were talking about? To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 7:57 PM Subject: copper sebecate oh crap. i am sorry..I thought I kept article..I wiz thru so many things...sometimes i think i kept when i didnt. with all the crap I am goin thru i am even more absent minded bout stuff.. basically the article said copper is to qiute inflammation...zinc is to speed up the immune system....so if you are dealing with an overactive immune system AKA too much inflammation you body is goin to dump all reserves into blood stream trying to bring down all that inflammation...thats why you see such high copper in our kids.. I knew i was on to smething when one of the other moms from diffrent group said her kids hair was turning grey..and that is a sign of copper defieciency..in that other group the motto was zinc zinc and more zinc..so no one would listen to me. sigh. how can i go up against the almighty DAM docters. anyways....I stumbled apon copper cuz my son had signs of hyperthyriodism copper is used to treat this.. my son became so calm and happy when i gave it to him...I backed of thinking maybe the docters were right and I was wrong about the copper theory. but I just ordered some more copper sebacate....for my son and my own migraines from hell. I dont swear by anything but this is what I have used and found to work for me. channa To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 5:09 PMSubject: Re: cactus juice/antiinflammatory would love to see that! To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 5:06 PMSubject: Re: cactus juice/antiinflammatory Mhel, where is your kids inflammation? if it is in the gut..i swear by the bakin soda and benedryl combo... if it is the brain...i have a great article on copper sebecate as a great antiinflammatory.. the body uses copper to fight inflammation that is why so many kids test high in copper because the body is using it not because it has to much of it...that is one theory any ways if any one wants I can post the article channa To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 3:43 PMSubject: RE: cactus juice/antiinflammatory Thank you for the post. God bless you andyour family in moving overseas, same withChanna. I wonder if both of you are movingtoward same place? Take care, Mhel To: mb12valtrex From: channabrennon@...Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 12:38:27 -0800Subject: Re: cactus juice/antiinflammatory tunde..i am thinking of moving overseas as well....I tried the napolea cactus juice by trivita...is this the one you ere using? i am looking for easy acess supplements once I move over seas...let me know..what works for you ..i would appreciate the info:) channa To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 3:05 PMSubject: cactus juice/antiinflammatory Hi,I few months ago i was talking about the cactus juice i used for my son's brain inflammation. There were some people from overseas wanted to get the juice but they do not ship overseas.Now I had to move overseas and i did not want to give this up for my son. I searched and came up with this site. It is in powdered form and they ship everywhere and we just have to add water.here is the site http://www.nopalexport.com/contactus.htmI did not try it yet but ordering it tonight. I will let you all know if there is any difference in this product.Hope it will be some help for some of you.Tunde Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 i wasnt able to open the link you put up... im so pissed i didnt save article...I will see if i can look it up some how again...but that makes sense about having the right form of copper..I was givin my son about 8mg of copper with great results....when i get my copper on thursday im goin to do the same maybe go higher and see if it will work on my migraines like the excedrin does...if the thoery is correct it should help me as well. channa To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 10:49 PMSubject: Re: copper sebecate I just came across this at a website that Discusses Klinghardt's protocol for kpu: ANOTHER SCHOOL OF THOUGHT High toxic copper may indicate the child is copper deficient. Not having the right form of copper may cause individuals to hold on to un-usable toxic copper. When zinc will not drive down the copper, suspect this as the possible reason. In this case you may choose to give the child the correct form and size of copper in small amounts each night and within several months the toxic copper levels may fall.†-Jim from WHM.com Could this be what you were talking about? To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 7:57 PMSubject: copper sebecate oh crap. i am sorry..I thought I kept article..I wiz thru so many things...sometimes i think i kept when i didnt. with all the crap I am goin thru i am even more absent minded bout stuff.. basically the article said copper is to qiute inflammation...zinc is to speed up the immune system....so if you are dealing with an overactive immune system AKA too much inflammation you body is goin to dump all reserves into blood stream trying to bring down all that inflammation...thats why you see such high copper in our kids.. I knew i was on to smething when one of the other moms from diffrent group said her kids hair was turning grey..and that is a sign of copper defieciency..in that other group the motto was zinc zinc and more zinc..so no one would listen to me. sigh. how can i go up against the almighty DAM docters. anyways....I stumbled apon copper cuz my son had signs of hyperthyriodism copper is used to treat this.. my son became so calm and happy when i gave it to him...I backed of thinking maybe the docters were right and I was wrong about the copper theory. but I just ordered some more copper sebacate....for my son and my own migraines from hell. I dont swear by anything but this is what I have used and found to work for me. channa To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 5:09 PMSubject: Re: cactus juice/antiinflammatory would love to see that! To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 5:06 PMSubject: Re: cactus juice/antiinflammatory Mhel, where is your kids inflammation? if it is in the gut..i swear by the bakin soda and benedryl combo... if it is the brain...i have a great article on copper sebecate as a great antiinflammatory.. the body uses copper to fight inflammation that is why so many kids test high in copper because the body is using it not because it has to much of it...that is one theory any ways if any one wants I can post the article channa To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 3:43 PMSubject: RE: cactus juice/antiinflammatory Thank you for the post. God bless you andyour family in moving overseas, same withChanna. I wonder if both of you are movingtoward same place? Take care, Mhel To: mb12valtrex From: channabrennon@...Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 12:38:27 -0800Subject: Re: cactus juice/antiinflammatory tunde..i am thinking of moving overseas as well....I tried the napolea cactus juice by trivita...is this the one you ere using? i am looking for easy acess supplements once I move over seas...let me know..what works for you ..i would appreciate the info:) channa To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 3:05 PMSubject: cactus juice/antiinflammatory Hi,I few months ago i was talking about the cactus juice i used for my son's brain inflammation. There were some people from overseas wanted to get the juice but they do not ship overseas.Now I had to move overseas and i did not want to give this up for my son. I searched and came up with this site. It is in powdered form and they ship everywhere and we just have to add water.here is the site http://www.nopalexport.com/contactus.htmI did not try it yet but ordering it tonight. I will let you all know if there is any difference in this product.Hope it will be some help for some of you.Tunde Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 I use copper sebecate by nutricology. I give it to my son after a meal with iodidne and selenium. i give zinc at a seperate meal as they should not be given together. iodine is great after meals to help stimulate bile and digest food better. this is what i observed in my son. but i dont give iodine with carb meals only protien and veggie meals. yes copper helps control inflammation in the body..according to one thoery. and my experience. To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 8:53 PMSubject: Re: copper sebecate Do you use a powder or a liquid copper.Do you buy it as a combo with zinc?Am I understanding you right, that copper helps with inflammation? Thanks,Tammy F. oh crap. i am sorry..I thought I kept article..I wiz thru so many things...sometimes i think i kept when i didnt. with all the crap I am goin thru i am even more absent minded bout stuff.. basically the article said copper is to qiute inflammation...zinc is to speed up the immune system....so if you are dealing with an overactive immune system AKA too much inflammation you body is goin to dump all reserves into blood stream trying to bring down all that inflammation...thats why you see such high copper in our kids.. I knew i was on to smething when one of the other moms from diffrent group said her kids hair was turning grey..and that is a sign of copper defieciency..in that other group the motto was zinc zinc and more zinc..so no one would listen to me. sigh. how can i go up against the almighty DAM docters. anyways....I stumbled apon copper cuz my son had signs of hyperthyriodism copper is used to treat this.. my son became so calm and happy when i gave it to him...I backed of thinking maybe the docters were right and I was wrong about the copper theory. but I just ordered some more copper sebacate....for my son and my own migraines from hell. I dont swear by anything but this is what I have used and found to work for me. channa To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 5:09 PMSubject: Re: cactus juice/antiinflammatory would love to see that! To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 5:06 PMSubject: Re: cactus juice/antiinflammatory Mhel, where is your kids inflammation? if it is in the gut..i swear by the bakin soda and benedryl combo... if it is the brain...i have a great article on copper sebecate as a great antiinflammatory.. the body uses copper to fight inflammation that is why so many kids test high in copper because the body is using it not because it has to much of it...that is one theory any ways if any one wants I can post the article channa To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 3:43 PMSubject: RE: cactus juice/antiinflammatory Thank you for the post. God bless you andyour family in moving overseas, same withChanna. I wonder if both of you are movingtoward same place? Take care, Mhel To: mb12valtrex From: channabrennon@...Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 12:38:27 -0800Subject: Re: cactus juice/antiinflammatory tunde..i am thinking of moving overseas as well....I tried the napolea cactus juice by trivita...is this the one you ere using? i am looking for easy acess supplements once I move over seas...let me know..what works for you ..i would appreciate the info:) channa To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 3:05 PMSubject: cactus juice/antiinflammatory Hi,I few months ago i was talking about the cactus juice i used for my son's brain inflammation. There were some people from overseas wanted to get the juice but they do not ship overseas.Now I had to move overseas and i did not want to give this up for my son. I searched and came up with this site. It is in powdered form and they ship everywhere and we just have to add water.here is the site http://www.nopalexport.com/contactus.htmI did not try it yet but ordering it tonight. I will let you all know if there is any difference in this product.Hope it will be some help for some of you.Tunde Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 http://health-science-spirit.com/copper.html ?? i wasnt able to open the link you put up... im so pissed i didnt save article...I will see if i can look it up some how again...but that makes sense about having the right form of copper..I was givin my son about 8mg of copper with great results....when i get my copper on thursday im goin to do the same maybe go higher and see if it will work on my migraines like the excedrin does...if the thoery is correct it should help me as well. channa To: " mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 10:49 PMSubject: Re: copper sebecate I just came across this at a website that Discusses Klinghardt's protocol for kpu: ANOTHER SCHOOL OF THOUGHT High toxic copper may indicate the child is copper deficient. Not having the right form of copper may cause individuals to hold on to un-usable toxic copper. When zinc will not drive down the copper, suspect this as the possible reason. In this case you may choose to give the child the correct form and size of copper in small amounts each night and within several months the toxic copper levels may fall.” -Jim from WHM.com Could this be what you were talking about? To: " mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 7:57 PMSubject: copper sebecate oh crap. i am sorry..I thought I kept article..I wiz thru so many things...sometimes i think i kept when i didnt. with all the crap I am goin thru i am even more absent minded bout stuff.. basically the article said copper is to qiute inflammation...zinc is to speed up the immune system....so if you are dealing with an overactive immune system AKA too much inflammation you body is goin to dump all reserves into blood stream trying to bring down all that inflammation...thats why you see such high copper in our kids.. I knew i was on to smething when one of the other moms from diffrent group said her kids hair was turning grey..and that is a sign of copper defieciency..in that other group the motto was zinc zinc and more zinc..so no one would listen to me. sigh. how can i go up against the almighty DAM docters. anyways....I stumbled apon copper cuz my son had signs of hyperthyriodism copper is used to treat this.. my son became so calm and happy when i gave it to him...I backed of thinking maybe the docters were right and I was wrong about the copper theory. but I just ordered some more copper sebacate....for my son and my own migraines from hell. I dont swear by anything but this is what I have used and found to work for me. channa To: " mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 5:09 PMSubject: Re: cactus juice/antiinflammatory would love to see that! To: " mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 5:06 PMSubject: Re: cactus juice/antiinflammatory Mhel, where is your kids inflammation? if it is in the gut..i swear by the bakin soda and benedryl combo... if it is the brain...i have a great article on copper sebecate as a great antiinflammatory.. the body uses copper to fight inflammation that is why so many kids test high in copper because the body is using it not because it has to much of it...that is one theory any ways if any one wants I can post the article channa To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 3:43 PM Subject: RE: cactus juice/antiinflammatory Thank you for the post. God bless you andyour family in moving overseas, same withChanna. I wonder if both of you are movingtoward same place? Take care, Mhel To: mb12valtrex From: channabrennon@...Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 12:38:27 -0800 Subject: Re: cactus juice/antiinflammatory tunde..i am thinking of moving overseas as well....I tried the napolea cactus juice by trivita...is this the one you ere using? i am looking for easy acess supplements once I move over seas...let me know..what works for you ..i would appreciate the info:) channa To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 3:05 PM Subject: cactus juice/antiinflammatory Hi,I few months ago i was talking about the cactus juice i used for my son's brain inflammation. There were some people from overseas wanted to get the juice but they do not ship overseas.Now I had to move overseas and i did not want to give this up for my son. I searched and came up with this site. It is in powdered form and they ship everywhere and we just have to add water. here is the site http://www.nopalexport.com/contactus.htmI did not try it yet but ordering it tonight. I will let you all know if there is any difference in this product. Hope it will be some help for some of you.Tunde Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 yes this was definitly one of the articles thank you...there was another one that talked about zinc speeding up the immune system and copper slowing it down To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 11:36 PMSubject: Re: copper sebecate http://health-science-spirit.com/copper.html ?? i wasnt able to open the link you put up... im so pissed i didnt save article...I will see if i can look it up some how again...but that makes sense about having the right form of copper..I was givin my son about 8mg of copper with great results....when i get my copper on thursday im goin to do the same maybe go higher and see if it will work on my migraines like the excedrin does...if the thoery is correct it should help me as well. channa To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 10:49 PMSubject: Re: copper sebecate I just came across this at a website that Discusses Klinghardt's protocol for kpu: ANOTHER SCHOOL OF THOUGHT High toxic copper may indicate the child is copper deficient. Not having the right form of copper may cause individuals to hold on to un-usable toxic copper. When zinc will not drive down the copper, suspect this as the possible reason. In this case you may choose to give the child the correct form and size of copper in small amounts each night and within several months the toxic copper levels may fall.†-Jim from WHM.com Could this be what you were talking about? To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 7:57 PMSubject: copper sebecate oh crap. i am sorry..I thought I kept article..I wiz thru so many things...sometimes i think i kept when i didnt. with all the crap I am goin thru i am even more absent minded bout stuff.. basically the article said copper is to qiute inflammation...zinc is to speed up the immune system....so if you are dealing with an overactive immune system AKA too much inflammation you body is goin to dump all reserves into blood stream trying to bring down all that inflammation...thats why you see such high copper in our kids.. I knew i was on to smething when one of the other moms from diffrent group said her kids hair was turning grey..and that is a sign of copper defieciency..in that other group the motto was zinc zinc and more zinc..so no one would listen to me. sigh. how can i go up against the almighty DAM docters. anyways....I stumbled apon copper cuz my son had signs of hyperthyriodism copper is used to treat this.. my son became so calm and happy when i gave it to him...I backed of thinking maybe the docters were right and I was wrong about the copper theory. but I just ordered some more copper sebacate....for my son and my own migraines from hell. I dont swear by anything but this is what I have used and found to work for me. channa To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 5:09 PMSubject: Re: cactus juice/antiinflammatory would love to see that! To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 5:06 PMSubject: Re: cactus juice/antiinflammatory Mhel, where is your kids inflammation? if it is in the gut..i swear by the bakin soda and benedryl combo... if it is the brain...i have a great article on copper sebecate as a great antiinflammatory.. the body uses copper to fight inflammation that is why so many kids test high in copper because the body is using it not because it has to much of it...that is one theory any ways if any one wants I can post the article channa To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 3:43 PMSubject: RE: cactus juice/antiinflammatory Thank you for the post. God bless you andyour family in moving overseas, same withChanna. I wonder if both of you are movingtoward same place? Take care, Mhel To: mb12valtrex From: channabrennon@...Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 12:38:27 -0800Subject: Re: cactus juice/antiinflammatory tunde..i am thinking of moving overseas as well....I tried the napolea cactus juice by trivita...is this the one you ere using? i am looking for easy acess supplements once I move over seas...let me know..what works for you ..i would appreciate the info:) channa To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 3:05 PMSubject: cactus juice/antiinflammatory Hi,I few months ago i was talking about the cactus juice i used for my son's brain inflammation. There were some people from overseas wanted to get the juice but they do not ship overseas.Now I had to move overseas and i did not want to give this up for my son. I searched and came up with this site. It is in powdered form and they ship everywhere and we just have to add water.here is the site http://www.nopalexport.com/contactus.htmI did not try it yet but ordering it tonight. I will let you all know if there is any difference in this product.Hope it will be some help for some of you.Tunde Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 Glad to help. Wish I knew how to know if enough copper is getting into the brain without spinal tap if that is how they know??Maybe that is why carnosine is so helpful for dementia, and what it means on pubmed saying they suspect carnosine helps " traffic " the copper and zinc.I gave my daughter some carnosine again today. yes this was definitly one of the articles thank you...there was another one that talked about zinc speeding up the immune system and copper slowing it down To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 11:36 PM Subject: Re: copper sebecate http://health-science-spirit.com/copper.html ?? i wasnt able to open the link you put up... im so pissed i didnt save article...I will see if i can look it up some how again...but that makes sense about having the right form of copper..I was givin my son about 8mg of copper with great results....when i get my copper on thursday im goin to do the same maybe go higher and see if it will work on my migraines like the excedrin does...if the thoery is correct it should help me as well. channa To: " mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 10:49 PMSubject: Re: copper sebecate I just came across this at a website that Discusses Klinghardt's protocol for kpu: ANOTHER SCHOOL OF THOUGHT High toxic copper may indicate the child is copper deficient. Not having the right form of copper may cause individuals to hold on to un-usable toxic copper. When zinc will not drive down the copper, suspect this as the possible reason. In this case you may choose to give the child the correct form and size of copper in small amounts each night and within several months the toxic copper levels may fall.” -Jim from WHM.com Could this be what you were talking about? To: " mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 7:57 PMSubject: copper sebecate oh crap. i am sorry..I thought I kept article..I wiz thru so many things...sometimes i think i kept when i didnt. with all the crap I am goin thru i am even more absent minded bout stuff.. basically the article said copper is to qiute inflammation...zinc is to speed up the immune system....so if you are dealing with an overactive immune system AKA too much inflammation you body is goin to dump all reserves into blood stream trying to bring down all that inflammation...thats why you see such high copper in our kids.. I knew i was on to smething when one of the other moms from diffrent group said her kids hair was turning grey..and that is a sign of copper defieciency..in that other group the motto was zinc zinc and more zinc..so no one would listen to me. sigh. how can i go up against the almighty DAM docters. anyways....I stumbled apon copper cuz my son had signs of hyperthyriodism copper is used to treat this.. my son became so calm and happy when i gave it to him...I backed of thinking maybe the docters were right and I was wrong about the copper theory. but I just ordered some more copper sebacate....for my son and my own migraines from hell. I dont swear by anything but this is what I have used and found to work for me. channa To: " mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 5:09 PMSubject: Re: cactus juice/antiinflammatory would love to see that! To: " mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 5:06 PMSubject: Re: cactus juice/antiinflammatory Mhel, where is your kids inflammation? if it is in the gut..i swear by the bakin soda and benedryl combo... if it is the brain...i have a great article on copper sebecate as a great antiinflammatory.. the body uses copper to fight inflammation that is why so many kids test high in copper because the body is using it not because it has to much of it...that is one theory any ways if any one wants I can post the article channa To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 3:43 PM Subject: RE: cactus juice/antiinflammatory Thank you for the post. God bless you andyour family in moving overseas, same withChanna. I wonder if both of you are movingtoward same place? Take care, Mhel To: mb12valtrex From: channabrennon@... Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 12:38:27 -0800Subject: Re: cactus juice/antiinflammatory tunde..i am thinking of moving overseas as well....I tried the napolea cactus juice by trivita...is this the one you ere using? i am looking for easy acess supplements once I move over seas...let me know..what works for you ..i would appreciate the info:) channa To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 3:05 PM Subject: cactus juice/antiinflammatory Hi,I few months ago i was talking about the cactus juice i used for my son's brain inflammation. There were some people from overseas wanted to get the juice but they do not ship overseas.Now I had to move overseas and i did not want to give this up for my son. I searched and came up with this site. It is in powdered form and they ship everywhere and we just have to add water. here is the site http://www.nopalexport.com/contactus.htmI did not try it yet but ordering it tonight. I will let you all know if there is any difference in this product. Hope it will be some help for some of you.Tunde Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 really I could tell with my son...i just gave until I saw him relax and stayed at that amount...you can try backing down and see if he still needs it.after he has been on it for a while. also i believe copper sebecate can be extreted what the body doesnt need..but I would just keep careful track of moods behaviors in coerilation to giving the copper...my son would calm down within about 30 minutes...that is how fast i saw it working.if the kid calms down i would assume the brain has gotten some. channa To: mb12valtrex Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 9:27 AMSubject: Re: copper sebecate Glad to help. Wish I knew how to know if enough copper is getting into the brain without spinal tap if that is how they know??Maybe that is why carnosine is so helpful for dementia, and what it means on pubmed saying they suspect carnosine helps"traffic" the copper and zinc.I gave my daughter some carnosine again today. yes this was definitly one of the articles thank you...there was another one that talked about zinc speeding up the immune system and copper slowing it down To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 11:36 PM Subject: Re: copper sebecate http://health-science-spirit.com/copper.html ?? i wasnt able to open the link you put up... im so pissed i didnt save article...I will see if i can look it up some how again...but that makes sense about having the right form of copper..I was givin my son about 8mg of copper with great results....when i get my copper on thursday im goin to do the same maybe go higher and see if it will work on my migraines like the excedrin does...if the thoery is correct it should help me as well. channa To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 10:49 PMSubject: Re: copper sebecate I just came across this at a website that Discusses Klinghardt's protocol for kpu: ANOTHER SCHOOL OF THOUGHT High toxic copper may indicate the child is copper deficient. Not having the right form of copper may cause individuals to hold on to un-usable toxic copper. When zinc will not drive down the copper, suspect this as the possible reason. In this case you may choose to give the child the correct form and size of copper in small amounts each night and within several months the toxic copper levels may fall.†-Jim from WHM.com Could this be what you were talking about? To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 7:57 PMSubject: copper sebecate oh crap. i am sorry..I thought I kept article..I wiz thru so many things...sometimes i think i kept when i didnt. with all the crap I am goin thru i am even more absent minded bout stuff.. basically the article said copper is to qiute inflammation...zinc is to speed up the immune system....so if you are dealing with an overactive immune system AKA too much inflammation you body is goin to dump all reserves into blood stream trying to bring down all that inflammation...thats why you see such high copper in our kids.. I knew i was on to smething when one of the other moms from diffrent group said her kids hair was turning grey..and that is a sign of copper defieciency..in that other group the motto was zinc zinc and more zinc..so no one would listen to me. sigh. how can i go up against the almighty DAM docters. anyways....I stumbled apon copper cuz my son had signs of hyperthyriodism copper is used to treat this.. my son became so calm and happy when i gave it to him...I backed of thinking maybe the docters were right and I was wrong about the copper theory. but I just ordered some more copper sebacate....for my son and my own migraines from hell. I dont swear by anything but this is what I have used and found to work for me. channa To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 5:09 PMSubject: Re: cactus juice/antiinflammatory would love to see that! To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 5:06 PMSubject: Re: cactus juice/antiinflammatory Mhel, where is your kids inflammation? if it is in the gut..i swear by the bakin soda and benedryl combo... if it is the brain...i have a great article on copper sebecate as a great antiinflammatory.. the body uses copper to fight inflammation that is why so many kids test high in copper because the body is using it not because it has to much of it...that is one theory any ways if any one wants I can post the article channa To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 3:43 PMSubject: RE: cactus juice/antiinflammatory Thank you for the post. God bless you andyour family in moving overseas, same withChanna. I wonder if both of you are movingtoward same place? Take care, Mhel To: mb12valtrex From: channabrennon@...Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 12:38:27 -0800Subject: Re: cactus juice/antiinflammatory tunde..i am thinking of moving overseas as well....I tried the napolea cactus juice by trivita...is this the one you ere using? i am looking for easy acess supplements once I move over seas...let me know..what works for you ..i would appreciate the info:) channa To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 3:05 PMSubject: cactus juice/antiinflammatory Hi,I few months ago i was talking about the cactus juice i used for my son's brain inflammation. There were some people from overseas wanted to get the juice but they do not ship overseas.Now I had to move overseas and i did not want to give this up for my son. I searched and came up with this site. It is in powdered form and they ship everywhere and we just have to add water.here is the site http://www.nopalexport.com/contactus.htmI did not try it yet but ordering it tonight. I will let you all know if there is any difference in this product.Hope it will be some help for some of you.Tunde Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 Toni,You are the absolute "go to" person for finding things on the Internet ;)Thanks!Sent from my iPhone http://health-science-spirit.com/copper.html ?? i wasnt able to open the link you put up... im so pissed i didnt save article...I will see if i can look it up some how again...but that makes sense about having the right form of copper..I was givin my son about 8mg of copper with great results....when i get my copper on thursday im goin to do the same maybe go higher and see if it will work on my migraines like the excedrin does...if the thoery is correct it should help me as well. channa To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 10:49 PMSubject: Re: copper sebecate I just came across this at a website that Discusses Klinghardt's protocol for kpu: ANOTHER SCHOOL OF THOUGHT High toxic copper may indicate the child is copper deficient. Not having the right form of copper may cause individuals to hold on to un-usable toxic copper. When zinc will not drive down the copper, suspect this as the possible reason. In this case you may choose to give the child the correct form and size of copper in small amounts each night and within several months the toxic copper levels may fall.†-Jim from WHM.com Could this be what you were talking about? To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 7:57 PMSubject: copper sebecate oh crap. i am sorry..I thought I kept article..I wiz thru so many things...sometimes i think i kept when i didnt. with all the crap I am goin thru i am even more absent minded bout stuff.. basically the article said copper is to qiute inflammation...zinc is to speed up the immune system....so if you are dealing with an overactive immune system AKA too much inflammation you body is goin to dump all reserves into blood stream trying to bring down all that inflammation...thats why you see such high copper in our kids.. I knew i was on to smething when one of the other moms from diffrent group said her kids hair was turning grey..and that is a sign of copper defieciency..in that other group the motto was zinc zinc and more zinc..so no one would listen to me. sigh. how can i go up against the almighty DAM docters. anyways....I stumbled apon copper cuz my son had signs of hyperthyriodism copper is used to treat this.. my son became so calm and happy when i gave it to him...I backed of thinking maybe the docters were right and I was wrong about the copper theory. but I just ordered some more copper sebacate....for my son and my own migraines from hell. I dont swear by anything but this is what I have used and found to work for me. channa To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 5:09 PMSubject: Re: cactus juice/antiinflammatory would love to see that! To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 5:06 PMSubject: Re: cactus juice/antiinflammatory Mhel, where is your kids inflammation? if it is in the gut..i swear by the bakin soda and benedryl combo... if it is the brain...i have a great article on copper sebecate as a great antiinflammatory.. the body uses copper to fight inflammation that is why so many kids test high in copper because the body is using it not because it has to much of it...that is one theory any ways if any one wants I can post the article channa To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 3:43 PM Subject: RE: cactus juice/antiinflammatory Thank you for the post. God bless you andyour family in moving overseas, same withChanna. I wonder if both of you are movingtoward same place? Take care, Mhel To: mb12valtrex From: channabrennon@...Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 12:38:27 -0800 Subject: Re: cactus juice/antiinflammatory tunde..i am thinking of moving overseas as well....I tried the napolea cactus juice by trivita...is this the one you ere using? i am looking for easy acess supplements once I move over seas...let me know..what works for you ..i would appreciate the info:) channa To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 3:05 PM Subject: cactus juice/antiinflammatory Hi,I few months ago i was talking about the cactus juice i used for my son's brain inflammation. There were some people from overseas wanted to get the juice but they do not ship overseas.Now I had to move overseas and i did not want to give this up for my son. I searched and came up with this site. It is in powdered form and they ship everywhere and we just have to add water. here is the site http://www.nopalexport.com/contactus.htmI did not try it yet but ordering it tonight. I will let you all know if there is any difference in this product. Hope it will be some help for some of you.Tunde Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 I am soo happy to have new ideas Channa.I have been looking for ideas for my son for 11yrs. now.My son currently sees Dr.,but my son is getting worse.Now I am detoxing him from these.He has been psychotic(saying he hates all people(including his mother).I have tried LLMD's,Naturals,Homeopathics,Chiros,Cranial sacral,NAET, and many in each field.Plus more that I am forgetting..The only thing in my sons life that has done good is the Valtrex,but he is toxic on it. I have called Dr.K's office and made phone consult,but the appt. will be way into april or May.At best.                                                         Thank you so much for your ideas and sharing your experiences.                                                                                             Sincerely,Tammy F.  I use copper sebecate by nutricology. I give it to my son after a meal with iodidne and selenium. i give zinc at a seperate meal as they should not be given together. iodine is great after meals to help stimulate bile and digest food better. this is what i observed in my son. but i dont give iodine with carb meals only protien and veggie meals. yes copper helps control inflammation in the body..according to one thoery. and my experience. From: Tammy F. To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 8:53 PM Subject: Re: copper sebecate  Do you use a powder or a liquid copper.Do you buy it as a combo with zinc?Am I understanding you right, that copper helps with inflammation? Thanks,Tammy F.  oh crap. i am sorry..I thought I kept article..I wiz thru so many things...sometimes i think i kept when i didnt. with all the crap I am goin thru i am even more absent minded bout stuff..     basically the article said copper is to qiute inflammation...zinc is to speed up the immune system....so if you are dealing with an overactive immune system AKA too much inflammation you body is goin to dump all reserves into blood stream trying to bring down all that inflammation...thats why you see such high copper in our kids.. I knew i was on to smething when one of the other moms from diffrent group said her kids hair was turning grey..and that is a sign of copper defieciency..in that other group the motto was zinc zinc and more zinc..so no one would listen to me. sigh. how can i go up against the almighty DAM docters.   anyways....I stumbled apon copper cuz my son had signs of hyperthyriodism  copper is used to treat this.. my son became so calm and happy when i gave it to him...I backed of thinking maybe the docters were right and I was wrong about the copper theory. but I just ordered some more copper sebacate....for my son and my own migraines from hell. I dont swear by anything but this is what I have used and found to work for me. channa  From: T Lynn To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 5:09 PM Subject: Re: cactus juice/antiinflammatory  would love to see that! From: Channa Brennon To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 5:06 PM Subject: Re: cactus juice/antiinflammatory  Mhel, where is your kids inflammation? if it is in the gut..i swear by the bakin soda and benedryl combo... if it is the brain...i have a great article on copper sebecate as a great antiinflammatory.. the body uses copper to fight inflammation that is why so many kids test high in copper because the body is using it not because it has to much of it...that is one theory any ways if any one wants I can post the article channa From: Abenir Ilasin To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 3:43 PM Subject: RE: cactus juice/antiinflammatory  Thank you for the post. God bless you and your family in moving overseas, same with Channa. I wonder if both of you are moving toward same place?                                          Take care,                                            Mhel                                                    To: mb12valtrex From: channabrennon@... Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 12:38:27 -0800 Subject: Re: cactus juice/antiinflammatory  tunde..i am thinking of moving overseas as well....I tried the napolea cactus juice by trivita...is this the one you ere using? i am looking for easy acess supplements once I move over seas...let me know..what works for you ...i would appreciate the info:) channa From: Jaqueline To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 3:05 PM Subject: cactus juice/antiinflammatory  Hi, I few months ago i was talking about the cactus juice i used for my son's brain inflammation. There were some people from overseas wanted to get the juice but they do not ship overseas. Now I had to move overseas and i did not want to give this up for my son. I searched and came up with this site. It is in powdered form and they ship everywhere and we just have to add water. here is the site http://www.nopalexport.com/contactus.htm I did not try it yet but ordering it tonight. I will let you all know if there is any difference in this product. Hope it will be some help for some of you. Tunde Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 I have to be a nosebag and add my two cents. You and Channa might be on to something here and you might consider learning about minerals in general. Iron overload can cause anger/volatile behavior. (Google "iron man" and "iron heart"). High iron can deplete copper (zinc, too). High iron can be result of too many supps/prescriptions over the course of years. (Among a number of other reasons). It's super interesting stuff. -Tammy To: mb12valtrex Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 10:04 AM Subject: Re: copper sebecate I am soo happy to have new ideas Channa.I have been looking for ideas for my son for 11yrs. now.My son currently sees Dr.,but my son is getting worse.Now I am detoxing him from these.He has been psychotic(saying he hates all people(including his mother).I have tried LLMD's,Naturals,Homeopathics,Chiros,Cranial sacral,NAET, and many in each field.Plus more that I am forgetting..The only thing in my sons life that has done good is the Valtrex,but he is toxic on it. I have called Dr.K's office and made phone consult,but the appt. will be way into april or May.At best. Thank you so much for your ideas and sharing your experiences. Sincerely,Tammy F. I use copper sebecate by nutricology. I give it to my son after a meal with iodidne and selenium. i give zinc at a seperate meal as they should not be given together. iodine is great after meals to help stimulate bile and digest food better. this is what i observed in my son. but i dont give iodine with carb meals only protien and veggie meals. yes copper helps control inflammation in the body..according to one thoery. and my experience. From: Tammy F. To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 8:53 PM Subject: Re: copper sebecate Do you use a powder or a liquid copper.Do you buy it as a combo with zinc?Am I understanding you right, that copper helps with inflammation? Thanks,Tammy F. oh crap. i am sorry..I thought I kept article..I wiz thru so many things...sometimes i think i kept when i didnt. with all the crap I am goin thru i am even more absent minded bout stuff.. basically the article said copper is to qiute inflammation...zinc is to speed up the immune system....so if you are dealing with an overactive immune system AKA too much inflammation you body is goin to dump all reserves into blood stream trying to bring down all that inflammation...thats why you see such high copper in our kids.. I knew i was on to smething when one of the other moms from diffrent group said her kids hair was turning grey..and that is a sign of copper defieciency..in that other group the motto was zinc zinc and more zinc..so no one would listen to me. sigh. how can i go up against the almighty DAM docters. anyways....I stumbled apon copper cuz my son had signs of hyperthyriodism copper is used to treat this.. my son became so calm and happy when i gave it to him...I backed of thinking maybe the docters were right and I was wrong about the copper theory. but I just ordered some more copper sebacate....for my son and my own migraines from hell. I dont swear by anything but this is what I have used and found to work for me. channa From: T Lynn To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 5:09 PM Subject: Re: cactus juice/antiinflammatory would love to see that! From: Channa Brennon To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 5:06 PM Subject: Re: cactus juice/antiinflammatory Mhel, where is your kids inflammation? if it is in the gut..i swear by the bakin soda and benedryl combo... if it is the brain...i have a great article on copper sebecate as a great antiinflammatory.. the body uses copper to fight inflammation that is why so many kids test high in copper because the body is using it not because it has to much of it...that is one theory any ways if any one wants I can post the article channa From: Abenir Ilasin To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 3:43 PM Subject: RE: cactus juice/antiinflammatory Thank you for the post. God bless you and your family in moving overseas, same with Channa. I wonder if both of you are moving toward same place? Take care, Mhel To: mb12valtrex From: channabrennon@... Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 12:38:27 -0800 Subject: Re: cactus juice/antiinflammatory tunde..i am thinking of moving overseas as well....I tried the napolea cactus juice by trivita...is this the one you ere using? i am looking for easy acess supplements once I move over seas...let me know..what works for you ...i would appreciate the info:) channa From: Jaqueline To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 3:05 PM Subject: cactus juice/antiinflammatory Hi, I few months ago i was talking about the cactus juice i used for my son's brain inflammation. There were some people from overseas wanted to get the juice but they do not ship overseas. Now I had to move overseas and i did not want to give this up for my son. I searched and came up with this site. It is in powdered form and they ship everywhere and we just have to add water. here is the site http://www.nopalexport.com/contactus.htm I did not try it yet but ordering it tonight. I will let you all know if there is any difference in this product. Hope it will be some help for some of you. Tunde Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 I agree with you tammy I give most supps seperate and always look for reactions... i try and stick with naturals as the body usually can assimilate it that way..i dont do everything natural but im trying to get to that point..a garden in the woods where i can make/grow my own medicine and not have to worry about CPS taking my kid away...or FDA taking my medicine away:) To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 10:24 AMSubject: Re: copper sebecate I have to be a nosebag and add my two cents. You and Channa might be on to something here and you might consider learning about minerals in general. Iron overload can cause anger/volatile behavior. (Google "iron man" and "iron heart"). High iron can deplete copper (zinc, too). High iron can be result of too many supps/prescriptions over the course of years. (Among a number of other reasons). It's super interesting stuff. -Tammy To: mb12valtrex Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 10:04 AMSubject: Re: copper sebecate I am soo happy to have new ideas Channa.I have been looking for ideas for my son for 11yrs. now.My son currently sees Dr.,but my son is getting worse.Now I am detoxing him from these.He has been psychotic(saying he hates all people(including his mother).I have tried LLMD's,Naturals,Homeopathics,Chiros,Cranial sacral,NAET, and many in each field.Plus more that I am forgetting..The only thing in my sons life that has done good is the Valtrex,but he is toxic on it. I have called Dr.K's office and made phone consult,but the appt. will be way into april or May.At best. Thank you so much for your ideas and sharing your experiences. Sincerely,Tammy F. I use copper sebecate by nutricology. I give it to my son after a meal with iodidne and selenium. i give zinc at a seperate meal as they should not be given together. iodine is great after meals to help stimulate bile and digest food better. this is what i observed in my son. but i dont give iodine with carb meals only protien and veggie meals. yes copper helps control inflammation in the body..according to one thoery. and my experience. To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 8:53 PMSubject: Re: copper sebecate Do you use a powder or a liquid copper.Do you buy it as a combo with zinc?Am I understanding you right, that copper helps with inflammation? Thanks,Tammy F. oh crap. i am sorry..I thought I kept article..I wiz thru so many things...sometimes i think i kept when i didnt. with all the crap I am goin thru i am even more absent minded bout stuff.. basically the article said copper is to qiute inflammation...zinc is to speed up the immune system....so if you are dealing with an overactive immune system AKA too much inflammation you body is goin to dump all reserves into blood stream trying to bring down all that inflammation...thats why you see such high copper in our kids.. I knew i was on to smething when one of the other moms from diffrent group said her kids hair was turning grey..and that is a sign of copper defieciency..in that other group the motto was zinc zinc and more zinc..so no one would listen to me. sigh. how can i go up against the almighty DAM docters. anyways....I stumbled apon copper cuz my son had signs of hyperthyriodism copper is used to treat this.. my son became so calm and happy when i gave it to him...I backed of thinking maybe the docters were right and I was wrong about the copper theory. but I just ordered some more copper sebacate....for my son and my own migraines from hell. I dont swear by anything but this is what I have used and found to work for me. channa To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 5:09 PMSubject: Re: cactus juice/antiinflammatory would love to see that! To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 5:06 PMSubject: Re: cactus juice/antiinflammatory Mhel, where is your kids inflammation? if it is in the gut..i swear by the bakin soda and benedryl combo... if it is the brain...i have a great article on copper sebecate as a great antiinflammatory.. the body uses copper to fight inflammation that is why so many kids test high in copper because the body is using it not because it has to much of it...that is one theory any ways if any one wants I can post the article channa To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 3:43 PMSubject: RE: cactus juice/antiinflammatory Thank you for the post. God bless you andyour family in moving overseas, same withChanna. I wonder if both of you are movingtoward same place? Take care, Mhel To: mb12valtrex From: channabrennon@...Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 12:38:27 -0800Subject: Re: cactus juice/antiinflammatory tunde..i am thinking of moving overseas as well....I tried the napolea cactus juice by trivita...is this the one you ere using? i am looking for easy acess supplements once I move over seas...let me know..what works for you ..i would appreciate the info:) channa To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 3:05 PMSubject: cactus juice/antiinflammatory Hi,I few months ago i was talking about the cactus juice i used for my son's brain inflammation. There were some people from overseas wanted to get the juice but they do not ship overseas.Now I had to move overseas and i did not want to give this up for my son. I searched and came up with this site. It is in powdered form and they ship everywhere and we just have to add water.here is the site http://www.nopalexport.com/contactus.htmI did not try it yet but ordering it tonight. I will let you all know if there is any difference in this product.Hope it will be some help for some of you.Tunde Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 Some cities/towns offer public spots to grow food. You should look into it. My sister has a good friend who lives on the cape. She grows her own herbs and spices. You find them all over her porch and her house. Of course she doesn't have DCF on her back. *She DOES, however, have a school superintendant who is trying to "strip" her daughter of her diagnosis. (She has been diagnosed multiple times over the years) - he doesnt want to $$$$$. ...Apparently he earned a PhD in neuropsychology when no one was looking. lol. believe that crap? So sad and frustrating. -Tammy To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 11:33 AM Subject: Re: copper sebecate I agree with you tammy I give most supps seperate and always look for reactions... i try and stick with naturals as the body usually can assimilate it that way..i dont do everything natural but im trying to get to that point..a garden in the woods where i can make/grow my own medicine and not have to worry about CPS taking my kid away...or FDA taking my medicine away:) To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 10:24 AMSubject: Re: copper sebecate I have to be a nosebag and add my two cents. You and Channa might be on to something here and you might consider learning about minerals in general. Iron overload can cause anger/volatile behavior. (Google "iron man" and "iron heart"). High iron can deplete copper (zinc, too). High iron can be result of too many supps/prescriptions over the course of years. (Among a number of other reasons). It's super interesting stuff. -Tammy To: mb12valtrex Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 10:04 AMSubject: Re: copper sebecate I am soo happy to have new ideas Channa.I have been looking for ideas for my son for 11yrs. now.My son currently sees Dr.,but my son is getting worse.Now I am detoxing him from these.He has been psychotic(saying he hates all people(including his mother).I have tried LLMD's,Naturals,Homeopathics,Chiros,Cranial sacral,NAET, and many in each field.Plus more that I am forgetting..The only thing in my sons life that has done good is the Valtrex,but he is toxic on it. I have called Dr.K's office and made phone consult,but the appt. will be way into april or May.At best. Thank you so much for your ideas and sharing your experiences. Sincerely,Tammy F. I use copper sebecate by nutricology. I give it to my son after a meal with iodidne and selenium. i give zinc at a seperate meal as they should not be given together. iodine is great after meals to help stimulate bile and digest food better. this is what i observed in my son. but i dont give iodine with carb meals only protien and veggie meals. yes copper helps control inflammation in the body..according to one thoery. and my experience. To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 8:53 PMSubject: Re: copper sebecate Do you use a powder or a liquid copper.Do you buy it as a combo with zinc?Am I understanding you right, that copper helps with inflammation? Thanks,Tammy F. oh crap. i am sorry..I thought I kept article..I wiz thru so many things...sometimes i think i kept when i didnt. with all the crap I am goin thru i am even more absent minded bout stuff.. basically the article said copper is to qiute inflammation...zinc is to speed up the immune system....so if you are dealing with an overactive immune system AKA too much inflammation you body is goin to dump all reserves into blood stream trying to bring down all that inflammation...thats why you see such high copper in our kids.. I knew i was on to smething when one of the other moms from diffrent group said her kids hair was turning grey..and that is a sign of copper defieciency..in that other group the motto was zinc zinc and more zinc..so no one would listen to me. sigh. how can i go up against the almighty DAM docters. anyways....I stumbled apon copper cuz my son had signs of hyperthyriodism copper is used to treat this.. my son became so calm and happy when i gave it to him...I backed of thinking maybe the docters were right and I was wrong about the copper theory. but I just ordered some more copper sebacate....for my son and my own migraines from hell. I dont swear by anything but this is what I have used and found to work for me. channa To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 5:09 PMSubject: Re: cactus juice/antiinflammatory would love to see that! To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 5:06 PMSubject: Re: cactus juice/antiinflammatory Mhel, where is your kids inflammation? if it is in the gut..i swear by the bakin soda and benedryl combo... if it is the brain...i have a great article on copper sebecate as a great antiinflammatory.. the body uses copper to fight inflammation that is why so many kids test high in copper because the body is using it not because it has to much of it...that is one theory any ways if any one wants I can post the article channa To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 3:43 PMSubject: RE: cactus juice/antiinflammatory Thank you for the post. God bless you andyour family in moving overseas, same withChanna. I wonder if both of you are movingtoward same place? Take care, Mhel To: mb12valtrex From: channabrennon@...Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 12:38:27 -0800Subject: Re: cactus juice/antiinflammatory tunde..i am thinking of moving overseas as well....I tried the napolea cactus juice by trivita...is this the one you ere using? i am looking for easy acess supplements once I move over seas...let me know..what works for you ..i would appreciate the info:) channa To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 3:05 PMSubject: cactus juice/antiinflammatory Hi,I few months ago i was talking about the cactus juice i used for my son's brain inflammation. There were some people from overseas wanted to get the juice but they do not ship overseas.Now I had to move overseas and i did not want to give this up for my son. I searched and came up with this site. It is in powdered form and they ship everywhere and we just have to add water.here is the site http://www.nopalexport.com/contactus.htmI did not try it yet but ordering it tonight. I will let you all know if there is any difference in this product.Hope it will be some help for some of you.Tunde Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 actually im waiting for the aliens to invade the earth..and then when the aliens and goverment are busy fighting themselves i can escape to the mountains and be left the f*** alone...what with aliens and bombings maybe then people will go pick on someone other then me and my son.... To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 11:41 AMSubject: Re: copper sebecate Some cities/towns offer public spots to grow food. You should look into it. My sister has a good friend who lives on the cape. She grows her own herbs and spices. You find them all over her porch and her house. Of course she doesn't have DCF on her back. *She DOES, however, have a school superintendant who is trying to "strip" her daughter of her diagnosis. (She has been diagnosed multiple times over the years) - he doesnt want to $$$$$. ...Apparently he earned a PhD in neuropsychology when no one was looking. lol. believe that crap? So sad and frustrating. -Tammy To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 11:33 AMSubject: Re: copper sebecate I agree with you tammy I give most supps seperate and always look for reactions... i try and stick with naturals as the body usually can assimilate it that way..i dont do everything natural but im trying to get to that point..a garden in the woods where i can make/grow my own medicine and not have to worry about CPS taking my kid away...or FDA taking my medicine away:) To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 10:24 AMSubject: Re: copper sebecate I have to be a nosebag and add my two cents. You and Channa might be on to something here and you might consider learning about minerals in general. Iron overload can cause anger/volatile behavior. (Google "iron man" and "iron heart"). High iron can deplete copper (zinc, too). High iron can be result of too many supps/prescriptions over the course of years. (Among a number of other reasons). It's super interesting stuff. -Tammy To: mb12valtrex Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 10:04 AMSubject: Re: copper sebecate I am soo happy to have new ideas Channa.I have been looking for ideas for my son for 11yrs. now.My son currently sees Dr.,but my son is getting worse.Now I am detoxing him from these.He has been psychotic(saying he hates all people(including his mother).I have tried LLMD's,Naturals,Homeopathics,Chiros,Cranial sacral,NAET, and many in each field.Plus more that I am forgetting..The only thing in my sons life that has done good is the Valtrex,but he is toxic on it. I have called Dr.K's office and made phone consult,but the appt. will be way into april or May.At best. Thank you so much for your ideas and sharing your experiences. Sincerely,Tammy F. I use copper sebecate by nutricology. I give it to my son after a meal with iodidne and selenium. i give zinc at a seperate meal as they should not be given together. iodine is great after meals to help stimulate bile and digest food better. this is what i observed in my son. but i dont give iodine with carb meals only protien and veggie meals. yes copper helps control inflammation in the body..according to one thoery. and my experience. To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 8:53 PMSubject: Re: copper sebecate Do you use a powder or a liquid copper.Do you buy it as a combo with zinc?Am I understanding you right, that copper helps with inflammation? Thanks,Tammy F. oh crap. i am sorry..I thought I kept article..I wiz thru so many things...sometimes i think i kept when i didnt. with all the crap I am goin thru i am even more absent minded bout stuff.. basically the article said copper is to qiute inflammation...zinc is to speed up the immune system....so if you are dealing with an overactive immune system AKA too much inflammation you body is goin to dump all reserves into blood stream trying to bring down all that inflammation...thats why you see such high copper in our kids.. I knew i was on to smething when one of the other moms from diffrent group said her kids hair was turning grey..and that is a sign of copper defieciency..in that other group the motto was zinc zinc and more zinc..so no one would listen to me. sigh. how can i go up against the almighty DAM docters. anyways....I stumbled apon copper cuz my son had signs of hyperthyriodism copper is used to treat this.. my son became so calm and happy when i gave it to him...I backed of thinking maybe the docters were right and I was wrong about the copper theory. but I just ordered some more copper sebacate....for my son and my own migraines from hell. I dont swear by anything but this is what I have used and found to work for me. channa To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 5:09 PMSubject: Re: cactus juice/antiinflammatory would love to see that! To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 5:06 PMSubject: Re: cactus juice/antiinflammatory Mhel, where is your kids inflammation? if it is in the gut..i swear by the bakin soda and benedryl combo... if it is the brain...i have a great article on copper sebecate as a great antiinflammatory.. the body uses copper to fight inflammation that is why so many kids test high in copper because the body is using it not because it has to much of it...that is one theory any ways if any one wants I can post the article channa To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 3:43 PMSubject: RE: cactus juice/antiinflammatory Thank you for the post. God bless you andyour family in moving overseas, same withChanna. I wonder if both of you are movingtoward same place? Take care, Mhel To: mb12valtrex From: channabrennon@...Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 12:38:27 -0800Subject: Re: cactus juice/antiinflammatory tunde..i am thinking of moving overseas as well....I tried the napolea cactus juice by trivita...is this the one you ere using? i am looking for easy acess supplements once I move over seas...let me know..what works for you ..i would appreciate the info:) channa To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 3:05 PMSubject: cactus juice/antiinflammatory Hi,I few months ago i was talking about the cactus juice i used for my son's brain inflammation. There were some people from overseas wanted to get the juice but they do not ship overseas.Now I had to move overseas and i did not want to give this up for my son. I searched and came up with this site. It is in powdered form and they ship everywhere and we just have to add water.here is the site http://www.nopalexport.com/contactus.htmI did not try it yet but ordering it tonight. I will let you all know if there is any difference in this product.Hope it will be some help for some of you.Tunde Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 oops sorry my crazy showing again To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 12:01 PMSubject: Re: copper sebecate actually im waiting for the aliens to invade the earth..and then when the aliens and goverment are busy fighting themselves i can escape to the mountains and be left the f*** alone...what with aliens and bombings maybe then people will go pick on someone other then me and my son.... To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 11:41 AMSubject: Re: copper sebecate Some cities/towns offer public spots to grow food. You should look into it. My sister has a good friend who lives on the cape. She grows her own herbs and spices. You find them all over her porch and her house. Of course she doesn't have DCF on her back. *She DOES, however, have a school superintendant who is trying to "strip" her daughter of her diagnosis. (She has been diagnosed multiple times over the years) - he doesnt want to $$$$$. ...Apparently he earned a PhD in neuropsychology when no one was looking. lol. believe that crap? So sad and frustrating. -Tammy To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 11:33 AMSubject: Re: copper sebecate I agree with you tammy I give most supps seperate and always look for reactions... i try and stick with naturals as the body usually can assimilate it that way..i dont do everything natural but im trying to get to that point..a garden in the woods where i can make/grow my own medicine and not have to worry about CPS taking my kid away...or FDA taking my medicine away:) To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 10:24 AMSubject: Re: copper sebecate I have to be a nosebag and add my two cents. You and Channa might be on to something here and you might consider learning about minerals in general. Iron overload can cause anger/volatile behavior. (Google "iron man" and "iron heart"). High iron can deplete copper (zinc, too). High iron can be result of too many supps/prescriptions over the course of years. (Among a number of other reasons). It's super interesting stuff. -Tammy To: mb12valtrex Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 10:04 AMSubject: Re: copper sebecate I am soo happy to have new ideas Channa.I have been looking for ideas for my son for 11yrs. now.My son currently sees Dr.,but my son is getting worse.Now I am detoxing him from these.He has been psychotic(saying he hates all people(including his mother).I have tried LLMD's,Naturals,Homeopathics,Chiros,Cranial sacral,NAET, and many in each field.Plus more that I am forgetting..The only thing in my sons life that has done good is the Valtrex,but he is toxic on it. I have called Dr.K's office and made phone consult,but the appt. will be way into april or May.At best. Thank you so much for your ideas and sharing your experiences. Sincerely,Tammy F. I use copper sebecate by nutricology. I give it to my son after a meal with iodidne and selenium. i give zinc at a seperate meal as they should not be given together. iodine is great after meals to help stimulate bile and digest food better. this is what i observed in my son. but i dont give iodine with carb meals only protien and veggie meals. yes copper helps control inflammation in the body..according to one thoery. and my experience. To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 8:53 PMSubject: Re: copper sebecate Do you use a powder or a liquid copper.Do you buy it as a combo with zinc?Am I understanding you right, that copper helps with inflammation? Thanks,Tammy F. oh crap. i am sorry..I thought I kept article..I wiz thru so many things...sometimes i think i kept when i didnt. with all the crap I am goin thru i am even more absent minded bout stuff.. basically the article said copper is to qiute inflammation...zinc is to speed up the immune system....so if you are dealing with an overactive immune system AKA too much inflammation you body is goin to dump all reserves into blood stream trying to bring down all that inflammation...thats why you see such high copper in our kids.. I knew i was on to smething when one of the other moms from diffrent group said her kids hair was turning grey..and that is a sign of copper defieciency..in that other group the motto was zinc zinc and more zinc..so no one would listen to me. sigh. how can i go up against the almighty DAM docters. anyways....I stumbled apon copper cuz my son had signs of hyperthyriodism copper is used to treat this.. my son became so calm and happy when i gave it to him...I backed of thinking maybe the docters were right and I was wrong about the copper theory. but I just ordered some more copper sebacate....for my son and my own migraines from hell. I dont swear by anything but this is what I have used and found to work for me. channa To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 5:09 PMSubject: Re: cactus juice/antiinflammatory would love to see that! To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 5:06 PMSubject: Re: cactus juice/antiinflammatory Mhel, where is your kids inflammation? if it is in the gut..i swear by the bakin soda and benedryl combo... if it is the brain...i have a great article on copper sebecate as a great antiinflammatory.. the body uses copper to fight inflammation that is why so many kids test high in copper because the body is using it not because it has to much of it...that is one theory any ways if any one wants I can post the article channa To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 3:43 PMSubject: RE: cactus juice/antiinflammatory Thank you for the post. God bless you andyour family in moving overseas, same withChanna. I wonder if both of you are movingtoward same place? Take care, Mhel To: mb12valtrex From: channabrennon@...Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 12:38:27 -0800Subject: Re: cactus juice/antiinflammatory tunde..i am thinking of moving overseas as well....I tried the napolea cactus juice by trivita...is this the one you ere using? i am looking for easy acess supplements once I move over seas...let me know..what works for you ..i would appreciate the info:) channa To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 3:05 PMSubject: cactus juice/antiinflammatory Hi,I few months ago i was talking about the cactus juice i used for my son's brain inflammation. There were some people from overseas wanted to get the juice but they do not ship overseas.Now I had to move overseas and i did not want to give this up for my son. I searched and came up with this site. It is in powdered form and they ship everywhere and we just have to add water.here is the site http://www.nopalexport.com/contactus.htmI did not try it yet but ordering it tonight. I will let you all know if there is any difference in this product.Hope it will be some help for some of you.Tunde Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2011 Report Share Posted November 30, 2011 While we are on the subject of iron... when my parents and husband did 23andme.com last year, theyfound that my mom AND my husband are both carriers for hemochromotosis. This is where iron stores in the organs and causes damage. It's one of those things HOUSE is always diagnosing, IOW one of those " out there " things. But b/c my mom and husband have it, I decided to have me and the kids tested.Me and my kids are all carriers. It's interesting b/c my kids could have had full-blown hemochromatosis due to both me and my husband being carriers.The hematologist says Gabi will likely not have to worry if she has regular periods. But that Alek will probablyneed to monitor his ferritin levels and to be a blood donor (as long as he's not anemic, which has been a problem) I am just letting you know that we had a pretty high hit rate in the family with that and so if the doc draws ferritin levelsand they are high, you might want to be concerned?? I have to be a nosebag and add my two cents. You and Channa might be on to something here and you might consider learning about minerals in general. Iron overload can cause anger/volatile behavior. (Google " iron man " and " iron heart " ). High iron can deplete copper (zinc, too). High iron can be result of too many supps/prescriptions over the course of years. (Among a number of other reasons). It's super interesting stuff. -Tammy To: mb12valtrex Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 10:04 AM Subject: Re: copper sebecate I am soo happy to have new ideas Channa.I have been looking for ideas for my son for 11yrs. now.My son currently sees Dr.,but my son is getting worse.Now I am detoxing him from these.He has been psychotic(saying he hates all people(including his mother).I have tried LLMD's,Naturals,Homeopathics,Chiros,Cranial sacral,NAET, and many in each field.Plus more that I am forgetting..The only thing in my sons life that has done good is the Valtrex,but he is toxic on it. I have called Dr.K's office and made phone consult,but the appt. will be way into april or May.At best. Thank you so much for your ideas and sharing your experiences. Sincerely,Tammy F. I use copper sebecate by nutricology. I give it to my son after a meal with iodidne and selenium. i give zinc at a seperate meal as they should not be given together. iodine is great after meals to help stimulate bile and digest food better. this is what i observed in my son. but i dont give iodine with carb meals only protien and veggie meals. yes copper helps control inflammation in the body..according to one thoery. and my experience. From: Tammy F. To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 8:53 PM Subject: Re: copper sebecate Do you use a powder or a liquid copper.Do you buy it as a combo with zinc?Am I understanding you right, that copper helps with inflammation? Thanks,Tammy F. oh crap. i am sorry..I thought I kept article..I wiz thru so many things...sometimes i think i kept when i didnt. with all the crap I am goin thru i am even more absent minded bout stuff.. basically the article said copper is to qiute inflammation...zinc is to speed up the immune system....so if you are dealing with an overactive immune system AKA too much inflammation you body is goin to dump all reserves into blood stream trying to bring down all that inflammation...thats why you see such high copper in our kids.. I knew i was on to smething when one of the other moms from diffrent group said her kids hair was turning grey..and that is a sign of copper defieciency..in that other group the motto was zinc zinc and more zinc..so no one would listen to me. sigh. how can i go up against the almighty DAM docters. anyways....I stumbled apon copper cuz my son had signs of hyperthyriodism copper is used to treat this.. my son became so calm and happy when i gave it to him...I backed of thinking maybe the docters were right and I was wrong about the copper theory. but I just ordered some more copper sebacate....for my son and my own migraines from hell. I dont swear by anything but this is what I have used and found to work for me. channa From: T Lynn To: " mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 5:09 PM Subject: Re: cactus juice/antiinflammatory would love to see that! From: Channa Brennon To: " mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 5:06 PM Subject: Re: cactus juice/antiinflammatory Mhel, where is your kids inflammation? if it is in the gut..i swear by the bakin soda and benedryl combo... if it is the brain...i have a great article on copper sebecate as a great antiinflammatory.. the body uses copper to fight inflammation that is why so many kids test high in copper because the body is using it not because it has to much of it...that is one theory any ways if any one wants I can post the article channa From: Abenir Ilasin To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 3:43 PM Subject: RE: cactus juice/antiinflammatory Thank you for the post. God bless you and your family in moving overseas, same with Channa. I wonder if both of you are moving toward same place? Take care, Mhel To: mb12valtrex From: channabrennon@... Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 12:38:27 -0800 Subject: Re: cactus juice/antiinflammatory tunde..i am thinking of moving overseas as well....I tried the napolea cactus juice by trivita...is this the one you ere using? i am looking for easy acess supplements once I move over seas...let me know..what works for you ...i would appreciate the info:) channa From: Jaqueline To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 3:05 PM Subject: cactus juice/antiinflammatory Hi, I few months ago i was talking about the cactus juice i used for my son's brain inflammation. There were some people from overseas wanted to get the juice but they do not ship overseas. Now I had to move overseas and i did not want to give this up for my son. I searched and came up with this site. It is in powdered form and they ship everywhere and we just have to add water. here is the site http://www.nopalexport.com/contactus.htm I did not try it yet but ordering it tonight. I will let you all know if there is any difference in this product. Hope it will be some help for some of you. Tunde Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2011 Report Share Posted December 1, 2011 My friend has hemochromatosis. For many years, she has had to get her iron levels checked and donate blood regularly. Since each and every time she had it checked, it turned out she had to give blood, she asked her doctor if she can space out the appointments to check her iron level, but continue with the regulat blood donations, and her doctor said yes. > > > ** > > > > > > I have to be a nosebag and add my two cents. You and Channa might be on > > to something here and you might consider learning about minerals in > > general. Iron overload can cause anger/volatile behavior. (Google " iron > > man " and " iron heart " ). High iron can deplete copper (zinc, too). High > > iron can be result of too many supps/prescriptions over the course of > > years. (Among a number of other reasons). It's super interesting stuff. > > > > -Tammy > > > > *From:* Tammy F. > > *To:* mb12valtrex > > *Sent:* Wednesday, November 30, 2011 10:04 AM > > > > *Subject:* Re: copper sebecate > > > > > > I am soo happy to have new ideas Channa.I have been looking for ideas > > for my son for 11yrs. now.My son currently sees Dr.,but my son is > > getting worse.Now I am detoxing him from these.He has been psychotic(saying > > he hates all people(including his mother).I have tried > > LLMD's,Naturals,Homeopathics,Chiros,Cranial sacral,NAET, and many in each > > field.Plus more that I am forgetting..The only thing in my sons life that > > has done good is the Valtrex,but he is toxic on it. I have called Dr.K's > > office and made phone consult,but the appt. will be way into april or > > May.At best. > > Thank you so much for your ideas and sharing your experiences. > > > > > > Sincerely,Tammy F. > > > > > > > > I use copper sebecate by nutricology. I give it to my son after a meal > > with iodidne and selenium. i give zinc at a seperate meal as they should > > not be given together. > > iodine is great after meals to help stimulate bile and digest food better. > > this is what i observed in my son. > > but i dont give iodine with carb meals only protien and veggie meals. > > yes copper helps control inflammation in the body..according to one > > thoery. and my experience. > > > > *From:* Tammy F. > > *To:* mb12valtrex > > *Sent:* Tuesday, November 29, 2011 8:53 PM > > *Subject:* Re: copper sebecate > > > > > > Do you use a powder or a liquid copper.Do you buy it as a combo with > > zinc?Am I understanding you right, that copper helps with inflammation? > > Thanks,Tammy F. > > > > > > oh crap. i am sorry..I thought I kept article..I wiz thru so many > > things...sometimes i think i kept when i didnt. > > with all the crap I am goin thru i am even more absent minded bout stuff.. > > basically the article said copper is to qiute inflammation...zinc is > > to speed up the immune system....so if you are dealing with an overactive > > immune system AKA too much inflammation you body is goin to dump all > > reserves into blood stream trying to bring down all that > > inflammation...thats why you see such high copper in our kids.. > > I knew i was on to smething when one of the other moms from diffrent group > > said her kids hair was turning grey..and that is a sign of copper > > defieciency..in that other group the motto was zinc zinc and more zinc..so > > no one would listen to me. sigh. how can i go up against the almighty DAM > > docters. > > anyways....I stumbled apon copper cuz my son had signs of > > hyperthyriodism copper is used to treat this.. > > my son became so calm and happy when i gave it to him...I backed of > > thinking maybe the docters were right and I was wrong about the copper > > theory. > > but I just ordered some more copper sebacate....for my son and my own > > migraines from hell. I dont swear by anything but this is what I have used > > and found to work for me. > > channa > > > > > > *From:* T Lynn > > *To:* " mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > > > <mb12valtrex > <mb12valtrex > > > *Sent:* Tuesday, November 29, 2011 5:09 PM > > *Subject:* Re: cactus juice/antiinflammatory > > > > > > would love to see that! > > > > *From:* Channa Brennon > > *To:* " mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > > > <mb12valtrex > <mb12valtrex > > > *Sent:* Tuesday, November 29, 2011 5:06 PM > > *Subject:* Re: cactus juice/antiinflammatory > > > > > > Mhel, where is your kids inflammation? if it is in the gut..i swear by > > the bakin soda and benedryl combo... > > if it is the brain...i have a great article on copper sebecate as a great > > antiinflammatory.. > > the body uses copper to fight inflammation that is why so many kids test > > high in copper because the body is using it not because it has to much of > > it...that is one theory any ways if any one wants I can post the article > > channa > > > > *From:* Abenir Ilasin > > *To:* mb12valtrex > > *Sent:* Tuesday, November 29, 2011 3:43 PM > > *Subject:* RE: cactus juice/antiinflammatory > > > > > > Thank you for the post. God bless you and > > your family in moving overseas, same with > > Channa. I wonder if both of you are moving > > toward same place? > > > > Take care, > > Mhel > > > > > > To: mb12valtrex > > From: channabrennon@... > > Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 12:38:27 -0800 > > Subject: Re: cactus juice/antiinflammatory > > > > > > tunde..i am thinking of moving overseas as well....I tried the napolea > > cactus juice by trivita...is this the one you ere using? i am looking for > > easy acess supplements once I move over seas...let me know..what works for > > you ..i would appreciate the info:) > > channa > > > > *From:* Jaqueline > > *To:* mb12valtrex > > *Sent:* Tuesday, November 29, 2011 3:05 PM > > *Subject:* cactus juice/antiinflammatory > > > > > > Hi, > > > > I few months ago i was talking about the cactus juice i used for my son's > > brain inflammation. There were some people from overseas wanted to get the > > juice but they do not ship overseas. > > Now I had to move overseas and i did not want to give this up for my son. > > I searched and came up with this site. It is in powdered form and they ship > > everywhere and we just have to add water. > > here is the site http://www.nopalexport.com/contactus.htm > > > > I did not try it yet but ordering it tonight. I will let you all know if > > there is any difference in this product. > > Hope it will be some help for some of you. > > Tunde > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 25, 2011 Report Share Posted December 25, 2011 This sure seems like a great article,if I could wrap my head around it.Can anyone descifer whether my son who has wilsons syndrome (among other things) should or should not take copper suppliments???? Thank you for any input,Tammy F. http://health-science-spirit.com/copper.html ?? On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 11:10 PM, Channa Brennon wrote: i wasnt able to open the link you put up... im so pissed i didnt save article...I will see if i can look it up some how again...but that makes sense about having the right form of copper..I was givin my son about 8mg of copper with great results....when i get my copper on thursday im goin to do the same maybe go higher and see if it will work on my migraines like the excedrin does...if the thoery is correct it should help me as well. channa From: T Lynn To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 10:49 PM Subject: Re: copper sebecate I just came across this at a website that Discusses Klinghardt's protocol for kpu: ANOTHER SCHOOL OF THOUGHT High toxic copper may indicate the child is copper deficient. Not having the right form of copper may cause individuals to hold on to un-usable toxic copper. When zinc will not drive down the copper, suspect this as the possible reason. In this case you may choose to give the child the correct form and size of copper in small amounts each night and within several months the toxic copper levels may fall.” -Jim from WHM.com Could this be what you were talking about? From: Channa Brennon To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 7:57 PM Subject: copper sebecate oh crap. i am sorry..I thought I kept article..I wiz thru so many things...sometimes i think i kept when i didnt. with all the crap I am goin thru i am even more absent minded bout stuff.. basically the article said copper is to qiute inflammation...zinc is to speed up the immune system....so if you are dealing with an overactive immune system AKA too much inflammation you body is goin to dump all reserves into blood stream trying to bring down all that inflammation...thats why you see such high copper in our kids.. I knew i was on to smething when one of the other moms from diffrent group said her kids hair was turning grey..and that is a sign of copper defieciency..in that other group the motto was zinc zinc and more zinc..so no one would listen to me. sigh. how can i go up against the almighty DAM docters. anyways....I stumbled apon copper cuz my son had signs of hyperthyriodism copper is used to treat this.. my son became so calm and happy when i gave it to him...I backed of thinking maybe the docters were right and I was wrong about the copper theory. but I just ordered some more copper sebacate....for my son and my own migraines from hell. I dont swear by anything but this is what I have used and found to work for me. channa From: T Lynn To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 5:09 PM Subject: Re: cactus juice/antiinflammatory would love to see that! From: Channa Brennon To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 5:06 PM Subject: Re: cactus juice/antiinflammatory Mhel, where is your kids inflammation? if it is in the gut..i swear by the bakin soda and benedryl combo... if it is the brain...i have a great article on copper sebecate as a great antiinflammatory.. the body uses copper to fight inflammation that is why so many kids test high in copper because the body is using it not because it has to much of it...that is one theory any ways if any one wants I can post the article channa To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 3:43 PM Subject: RE: cactus juice/antiinflammatory Thank you for the post. God bless you and your family in moving overseas, same with Channa. I wonder if both of you are moving toward same place? Take care, Mhel To: mb12valtrex From: channabrennon@... Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 12:38:27 -0800 Subject: Re: cactus juice/antiinflammatory tunde..i am thinking of moving overseas as well....I tried the napolea cactus juice by trivita...is this the one you ere using? i am looking for easy acess supplements once I move over seas...let me know..what works for you ...i would appreciate the info:) channa To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 3:05 PM Subject: cactus juice/antiinflammatory Hi, I few months ago i was talking about the cactus juice i used for my son's brain inflammation. There were some people from overseas wanted to get the juice but they do not ship overseas. Now I had to move overseas and i did not want to give this up for my son. I searched and came up with this site. It is in powdered form and they ship everywhere and we just have to add water. here is the site http://www.nopalexport.com/contactus.htm I did not try it yet but ordering it tonight. I will let you all know if there is any difference in this product. Hope it will be some help for some of you. Tunde Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 25, 2011 Report Share Posted December 25, 2011 well....i am not sure but it states in the article with the exception of wilsons disease.... do you supplement with molybedenum tammy? R.J. Sorenson at the University of Arkansas has done most of the pioneering research work on copper complexes. In one of his publications he states that with the exception of 's disease, there are no chronic degenerative diseases in man known to result from non-industrial exposure to copper. Copper salicylate has a stronger anti-inflammatory effect than cortisone but without the side effects. To: mb12valtrex Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 1:59 PMSubject: Re: copper sebecate This sure seems like a great article,if I could wrap my head around it.Can anyone descifer whether my son who has wilsons syndrome (among other things) should or should not take copper suppliments???? Thank you for any input,Tammy F. http://health-science-spirit.com/copper.html ?? i wasnt able to open the link you put up... im so pissed i didnt save article...I will see if i can look it up some how again...but that makes sense about having the right form of copper..I was givin my son about 8mg of copper with great results....when i get my copper on thursday im goin to do the same maybe go higher and see if it will work on my migraines like the excedrin does...if the thoery is correct it should help me as well. channa To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 10:49 PMSubject: Re: copper sebecate I just came across this at a website that Discusses Klinghardt's protocol for kpu: ANOTHER SCHOOL OF THOUGHT High toxic copper may indicate the child is copper deficient. Not having the right form of copper may cause individuals to hold on to un-usable toxic copper. When zinc will not drive down the copper, suspect this as the possible reason. In this case you may choose to give the child the correct form and size of copper in small amounts each night and within several months the toxic copper levels may fall.†-Jim from WHM.com Could this be what you were talking about? To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 7:57 PMSubject: copper sebecate oh crap. i am sorry..I thought I kept article..I wiz thru so many things...sometimes i think i kept when i didnt. with all the crap I am goin thru i am even more absent minded bout stuff.. basically the article said copper is to qiute inflammation...zinc is to speed up the immune system....so if you are dealing with an overactive immune system AKA too much inflammation you body is goin to dump all reserves into blood stream trying to bring down all that inflammation...thats why you see such high copper in our kids.. I knew i was on to smething when one of the other moms from diffrent group said her kids hair was turning grey..and that is a sign of copper defieciency..in that other group the motto was zinc zinc and more zinc..so no one would listen to me. sigh. how can i go up against the almighty DAM docters. anyways....I stumbled apon copper cuz my son had signs of hyperthyriodism copper is used to treat this.. my son became so calm and happy when i gave it to him...I backed of thinking maybe the docters were right and I was wrong about the copper theory. but I just ordered some more copper sebacate....for my son and my own migraines from hell. I dont swear by anything but this is what I have used and found to work for me. channa To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 5:09 PMSubject: Re: cactus juice/antiinflammatory would love to see that! To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 5:06 PMSubject: Re: cactus juice/antiinflammatory Mhel, where is your kids inflammation? if it is in the gut..i swear by the bakin soda and benedryl combo... if it is the brain...i have a great article on copper sebecate as a great antiinflammatory.. the body uses copper to fight inflammation that is why so many kids test high in copper because the body is using it not because it has to much of it...that is one theory any ways if any one wants I can post the article channa To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 3:43 PMSubject: RE: cactus juice/antiinflammatory Thank you for the post. God bless you andyour family in moving overseas, same withChanna. I wonder if both of you are movingtoward same place? Take care, Mhel To: mb12valtrex From: channabrennon@...Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 12:38:27 -0800Subject: Re: cactus juice/antiinflammatory tunde..i am thinking of moving overseas as well....I tried the napolea cactus juice by trivita...is this the one you ere using? i am looking for easy acess supplements once I move over seas...let me know..what works for you ..i would appreciate the info:) channa To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 3:05 PMSubject: cactus juice/antiinflammatory Hi,I few months ago i was talking about the cactus juice i used for my son's brain inflammation. There were some people from overseas wanted to get the juice but they do not ship overseas.Now I had to move overseas and i did not want to give this up for my son. I searched and came up with this site. It is in powdered form and they ship everywhere and we just have to add water.here is the site http://www.nopalexport.com/contactus.htmI did not try it yet but ordering it tonight. I will let you all know if there is any difference in this product.Hope it will be some help for some of you.Tunde Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 25, 2011 Report Share Posted December 25, 2011 I was reading last night that the thyroid needs to find a balance between these minerals... you need copper, iron, zinc and iodine.If one is out of whack and you supplement, it can throw the others off. Right now we are supp'ing copper and zinc (there is a small amt of copper in the opti-zinc) and iron rarely (carriers for hemochromotosis) and iodine is in the multi I think. Oh, and b6 and B12 have to be abundant too. What a mess, when you try to supp one thing and throw the others off. No wonder DAN try to start with super nu thera first LOL. Anyway, we'll get it straight someday ;-) I would def not supp copper in abundance in an ASD child unless you were monitoring. Also, as Channa pointed out, molybdenum can help modulate that. This sure seems like a great article,if I could wrap my head around it.Can anyone descifer whether my son who has wilsons syndrome (among other things) should or should not take copper suppliments???? Thank you for any input,Tammy F. http://health-science-spirit.com/copper.html ?? On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 11:10 PM, Channa Brennon wrote: i wasnt able to open the link you put up... im so pissed i didnt save article...I will see if i can look it up some how again...but that makes sense about having the right form of copper..I was givin my son about 8mg of copper with great results....when i get my copper on thursday im goin to do the same maybe go higher and see if it will work on my migraines like the excedrin does...if the thoery is correct it should help me as well. channa From: T Lynn To: " mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 10:49 PM Subject: Re: copper sebecate I just came across this at a website that Discusses Klinghardt's protocol for kpu: ANOTHER SCHOOL OF THOUGHT High toxic copper may indicate the child is copper deficient. Not having the right form of copper may cause individuals to hold on to un-usable toxic copper. When zinc will not drive down the copper, suspect this as the possible reason. In this case you may choose to give the child the correct form and size of copper in small amounts each night and within several months the toxic copper levels may fall.” -Jim from WHM.com Could this be what you were talking about? From: Channa Brennon To: " mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 7:57 PM Subject: copper sebecate oh crap. i am sorry..I thought I kept article..I wiz thru so many things...sometimes i think i kept when i didnt. with all the crap I am goin thru i am even more absent minded bout stuff.. basically the article said copper is to qiute inflammation...zinc is to speed up the immune system....so if you are dealing with an overactive immune system AKA too much inflammation you body is goin to dump all reserves into blood stream trying to bring down all that inflammation...thats why you see such high copper in our kids.. I knew i was on to smething when one of the other moms from diffrent group said her kids hair was turning grey..and that is a sign of copper defieciency..in that other group the motto was zinc zinc and more zinc..so no one would listen to me. sigh. how can i go up against the almighty DAM docters. anyways....I stumbled apon copper cuz my son had signs of hyperthyriodism copper is used to treat this.. my son became so calm and happy when i gave it to him...I backed of thinking maybe the docters were right and I was wrong about the copper theory. but I just ordered some more copper sebacate....for my son and my own migraines from hell. I dont swear by anything but this is what I have used and found to work for me. channa From: T Lynn To: " mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 5:09 PM Subject: Re: cactus juice/antiinflammatory would love to see that! From: Channa Brennon To: " mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 5:06 PM Subject: Re: cactus juice/antiinflammatory Mhel, where is your kids inflammation? if it is in the gut..i swear by the bakin soda and benedryl combo... if it is the brain...i have a great article on copper sebecate as a great antiinflammatory.. the body uses copper to fight inflammation that is why so many kids test high in copper because the body is using it not because it has to much of it...that is one theory any ways if any one wants I can post the article channa To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 3:43 PM Subject: RE: cactus juice/antiinflammatory Thank you for the post. God bless you and your family in moving overseas, same with Channa. I wonder if both of you are moving toward same place? Take care, Mhel To: mb12valtrex From: channabrennon@... Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 12:38:27 -0800 Subject: Re: cactus juice/antiinflammatory tunde..i am thinking of moving overseas as well....I tried the napolea cactus juice by trivita...is this the one you ere using? i am looking for easy acess supplements once I move over seas...let me know..what works for you ...i would appreciate the info:) channa To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 3:05 PM Subject: cactus juice/antiinflammatory Hi, I few months ago i was talking about the cactus juice i used for my son's brain inflammation. There were some people from overseas wanted to get the juice but they do not ship overseas. Now I had to move overseas and i did not want to give this up for my son. I searched and came up with this site. It is in powdered form and they ship everywhere and we just have to add water. here is the site http://www.nopalexport.com/contactus.htm I did not try it yet but ordering it tonight. I will let you all know if there is any difference in this product. Hope it will be some help for some of you. Tunde -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Click to find info about Vitamins and Minerals:http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150543521682565 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Click to find links to info about the Low Oxalate Diet :http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150543495292565 ------Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 25, 2011 Report Share Posted December 25, 2011 Not usually either one.But with our thread I tried the copper and molyb. but my son got angry and hyper(he is sensitive to all things I just keep trying).I have tried naturals and unaturals my sons entire life and get the same reaction.He is 12 now and I am extremely discouragedHe is defficient in multiple vits and minerals.Has lyme and co infections but can't treat as he has continuous sickness from meds.The docs always say its die off then months and years later he is still sick.They are stumped.Its got to be something geneticaly I am missing.I did the genomic testing for detoxing and just did the 23 and me genetic testing,thanks to others advice.I still have 6 wks to wait for results.He looks like he may die every day.I don't know how his little body takes.He has lost his childhood to misery .I hope and pray everyday that an answer turns up.Its so cruel and sad to see .I have thought Dr.Klinghardt may have new thoughts (although i have already tried lots of his stuff with other docs).Or yasko,but my son can't handle all those or can he?Or maybe Dr.Rossignol may be our answer or the emergency room visits.I have taken him from state to state to doctors.Valtrex is the only thing I have ever found that has any kind of positive results.But he still is sick daily.It Changes daily.I am now wondering about stem cells.We havehad many years without a real Christmas,but I can never say stop.Too bad God doesn't take the ones that need relief I am very sad this year.Sorry channa ,your question was a loaded one as you see.I am sorry to do this to this wonderfull group.I know everyone has their own missery. Thanks for all of you,I thank God everyday for alllll of you.Tammy F.  well....i am not sure but it states in the article with the exception of wilsons disease.... do you supplement with molybedenum tammy? R.J. Sorenson at the University of Arkansas has done most of the pioneering research work on copper complexes. In one of his publications he states that with the exception of 's disease, there are no chronic degenerative diseases in man known to result from non-industrial exposure to copper. Copper salicylate has a stronger anti-inflammatory effect than cortisone but without the side effects.  From: Tammy To: mb12valtrex Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 1:59 PM Subject: Re: copper sebecate  This sure seems like a great article,if I could wrap my head around it.Can anyone descifer whether my son who has wilsons syndrome (among other things) should or should not take copper suppliments???? Thank you for any input,Tammy F.  http://health-science-spirit.com/copper.html ?? On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 11:10 PM, Channa Brennon wrote:  i wasnt able to open the link you put up... im so pissed i didnt save article...I will see if i can look it up some how again...but that makes sense about having the right form of copper..I was givin my son about 8mg of copper with great results....when i get my copper on thursday im goin to do the same maybe go higher and see if it will work on my migraines like the excedrin does...if the thoery is correct it should help me as well. channa From: T Lynn To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 10:49 PM Subject: Re: copper sebecate  I just came across this at a website that Discusses Klinghardt's protocol for kpu:    ANOTHER SCHOOL OF THOUGHT High toxic copper may indicate the child is copper deficient. Not having the right form of copper may cause individuals to hold on to un-usable toxic copper. When zinc will not drive down the copper, suspect this as the possible reason. In this case you may choose to give the child the correct form and size of copper in small amounts each night and within several months the toxic copper levels may fall.†-Jim from WHM.com   Could this be what you were talking about?  From: Channa Brennon To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 7:57 PM Subject: copper sebecate  oh crap. i am sorry..I thought I kept article..I wiz thru so many things...sometimes i think i kept when i didnt. with all the crap I am goin thru i am even more absent minded bout stuff..     basically the article said copper is to qiute inflammation...zinc is to speed up the immune system....so if you are dealing with an overactive immune system AKA too much inflammation you body is goin to dump all reserves into blood stream trying to bring down all that inflammation...thats why you see such high copper in our kids.. I knew i was on to smething when one of the other moms from diffrent group said her kids hair was turning grey..and that is a sign of copper defieciency..in that other group the motto was zinc zinc and more zinc..so no one would listen to me. sigh. how can i go up against the almighty DAM docters.   anyways....I stumbled apon copper cuz my son had signs of hyperthyriodism  copper is used to treat this.. my son became so calm and happy when i gave it to him...I backed of thinking maybe the docters were right and I was wrong about the copper theory. but I just ordered some more copper sebacate....for my son and my own migraines from hell. I dont swear by anything but this is what I have used and found to work for me. channa  From: T Lynn To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 5:09 PM Subject: Re: cactus juice/antiinflammatory  would love to see that! From: Channa Brennon To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 5:06 PM Subject: Re: cactus juice/antiinflammatory  Mhel, where is your kids inflammation? if it is in the gut..i swear by the bakin soda and benedryl combo... if it is the brain...i have a great article on copper sebecate as a great antiinflammatory.. the body uses copper to fight inflammation that is why so many kids test high in copper because the body is using it not because it has to much of it...that is one theory any ways if any one wants I can post the article channa From: Abenir Ilasin To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 3:43 PM Subject: RE: cactus juice/antiinflammatory  Thank you for the post. God bless you and your family in moving overseas, same with Channa. I wonder if both of you are moving toward same place?                                          Take care,                                            Mhel                                                    To: mb12valtrex From: channabrennon@... Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 12:38:27 -0800 Subject: Re: cactus juice/antiinflammatory  tunde..i am thinking of moving overseas as well....I tried the napolea cactus juice by trivita...is this the one you ere using? i am looking for easy acess supplements once I move over seas...let me know..what works for you ...i would appreciate the info:) channa From: Jaqueline To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 3:05 PM Subject: cactus juice/antiinflammatory  Hi, I few months ago i was talking about the cactus juice i used for my son's brain inflammation. There were some people from overseas wanted to get the juice but they do not ship overseas. Now I had to move overseas and i did not want to give this up for my son. I searched and came up with this site. It is in powdered form and they ship everywhere and we just have to add water. here is the site http://www.nopalexport.com/contactus.htm I did not try it yet but ordering it tonight. I will let you all know if there is any difference in this product. Hope it will be some help for some of you. Tunde Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 25, 2011 Report Share Posted December 25, 2011 Tammy,Have you done the Yasko testing? We are only on 4 Yasko combination supps. They are the regular multi, the MTR/MTRR, Ultimate B and CBS/NOS. Well, they haven't taken the CBS/NOS this week. These are not the RNA drops. The MTR has been great for my son, the first b12 that hasnt made him nutso. Not usually either one.But with our thread I tried the copper and molyb. but my son got angry and hyper(he is sensitive to all things I just keep trying).I have tried naturals and unaturals my sons entire life and get the same reaction.He is 12 now and I am extremely discouragedHe is defficient in multiple vits and minerals.Has lyme and co infections but can't treat as he has continuous sickness from meds.The docs always say its die off then months and years later he is still sick.They are stumped.Its got to be something geneticaly I am missing.I did the genomic testing for detoxing and just did the 23 and me genetic testing,thanks to others advice.I still have 6 wks to wait for results.He looks like he may die every day.I don't know how his little body takes.He has lost his childhood to misery .I hope and pray everyday that an answer turns up.Its so cruel and sad to see .I have thought Dr.Klinghardt may have new thoughts (although i have already tried lots of his stuff with other docs).Or yasko,but my son can't handle all those or can he?Or maybe Dr.Rossignol may be our answer or the emergency room visits.I have taken him from state to state to doctors.Valtrex is the only thing I have ever found that has any kind of positive results.But he still is sick daily.It Changes daily.I am now wondering about stem cells.We havehad many years without a real Christmas,but I can never say stop.Too bad God doesn't take the ones that need relief I am very sad this year.Sorry channa ,your question was a loaded one as you see.I am sorry to do this to this wonderfull group.I know everyone has their own missery. Thanks for all of you,I thank God everyday for alllll of you.Tammy F. well....i am not sure but it states in the article with the exception of wilsons disease.... do you supplement with molybedenum tammy? R.J. Sorenson at the University of Arkansas has done most of the pioneering research work on copper complexes. In one of his publications he states that with the exception of 's disease, there are no chronic degenerative diseases in man known to result from non-industrial exposure to copper. Copper salicylate has a stronger anti-inflammatory effect than cortisone but without the side effects. From: Tammy To: mb12valtrex Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 1:59 PM Subject: Re: copper sebecate This sure seems like a great article,if I could wrap my head around it.Can anyone descifer whether my son who has wilsons syndrome (among other things) should or should not take copper suppliments???? Thank you for any input,Tammy F. http://health-science-spirit.com/copper.html ?? On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 11:10 PM, Channa Brennon wrote: i wasnt able to open the link you put up... im so pissed i didnt save article...I will see if i can look it up some how again...but that makes sense about having the right form of copper..I was givin my son about 8mg of copper with great results....when i get my copper on thursday im goin to do the same maybe go higher and see if it will work on my migraines like the excedrin does...if the thoery is correct it should help me as well. channa From: T Lynn To: " mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 10:49 PM Subject: Re: copper sebecate I just came across this at a website that Discusses Klinghardt's protocol for kpu: ANOTHER SCHOOL OF THOUGHT High toxic copper may indicate the child is copper deficient. Not having the right form of copper may cause individuals to hold on to un-usable toxic copper. When zinc will not drive down the copper, suspect this as the possible reason. In this case you may choose to give the child the correct form and size of copper in small amounts each night and within several months the toxic copper levels may fall.” -Jim from WHM.com Could this be what you were talking about? From: Channa Brennon To: " mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 7:57 PM Subject: copper sebecate oh crap. i am sorry..I thought I kept article..I wiz thru so many things...sometimes i think i kept when i didnt. with all the crap I am goin thru i am even more absent minded bout stuff.. basically the article said copper is to qiute inflammation...zinc is to speed up the immune system....so if you are dealing with an overactive immune system AKA too much inflammation you body is goin to dump all reserves into blood stream trying to bring down all that inflammation...thats why you see such high copper in our kids.. I knew i was on to smething when one of the other moms from diffrent group said her kids hair was turning grey..and that is a sign of copper defieciency..in that other group the motto was zinc zinc and more zinc..so no one would listen to me. sigh. how can i go up against the almighty DAM docters. anyways....I stumbled apon copper cuz my son had signs of hyperthyriodism copper is used to treat this.. my son became so calm and happy when i gave it to him...I backed of thinking maybe the docters were right and I was wrong about the copper theory. but I just ordered some more copper sebacate....for my son and my own migraines from hell. I dont swear by anything but this is what I have used and found to work for me. channa From: T Lynn To: " mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 5:09 PM Subject: Re: cactus juice/antiinflammatory would love to see that! From: Channa Brennon To: " mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 5:06 PM Subject: Re: cactus juice/antiinflammatory Mhel, where is your kids inflammation? if it is in the gut..i swear by the bakin soda and benedryl combo... if it is the brain...i have a great article on copper sebecate as a great antiinflammatory.. the body uses copper to fight inflammation that is why so many kids test high in copper because the body is using it not because it has to much of it...that is one theory any ways if any one wants I can post the article channa From: Abenir Ilasin To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 3:43 PM Subject: RE: cactus juice/antiinflammatory Thank you for the post. God bless you and your family in moving overseas, same with Channa. I wonder if both of you are moving toward same place? Take care, Mhel To: mb12valtrex From: channabrennon@... Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 12:38:27 -0800 Subject: Re: cactus juice/antiinflammatory tunde..i am thinking of moving overseas as well....I tried the napolea cactus juice by trivita...is this the one you ere using? i am looking for easy acess supplements once I move over seas...let me know..what works for you ...i would appreciate the info:) channa From: Jaqueline To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 3:05 PM Subject: cactus juice/antiinflammatory Hi, I few months ago i was talking about the cactus juice i used for my son's brain inflammation. There were some people from overseas wanted to get the juice but they do not ship overseas. Now I had to move overseas and i did not want to give this up for my son. I searched and came up with this site. It is in powdered form and they ship everywhere and we just have to add water. here is the site http://www.nopalexport.com/contactus.htm I did not try it yet but ordering it tonight. I will let you all know if there is any difference in this product. Hope it will be some help for some of you. Tunde -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Click to find info about Vitamins and Minerals:http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150543521682565 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Click to find links to info about the Low Oxalate Diet :http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150543495292565 ------Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 25, 2011 Report Share Posted December 25, 2011 Aw, Tammy, I'm praying for you. It's a long road - I hate to hear about a child suffering. I wish I had an answer for you and pray you find one very soon. xox -Tammy To: mb12valtrex Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 9:16 PM Subject: Re: copper sebecate Not usually either one.But with our thread I tried the copper and molyb. but my son got angry and hyper(he is sensitive to all things I just keep trying).I have tried naturals and unaturals my sons entire life and get the same reaction.He is 12 now and I am extremely discouragedHe is defficient in multiple vits and minerals.Has lyme and co infections but can't treat as he has continuous sickness from meds.The docs always say its die off then months and years later he is still sick.They are stumped.Its got to be something geneticaly I am missing.I did the genomic testing for detoxing and just did the 23 and me genetic testing,thanks to others advice.I still have 6 wks to wait for results.He looks like he may die every day.I don't know how his little body takes.He has lost his childhood to misery .I hope and pray everyday that an answer turns up.Its so cruel and sad to see .I have thought Dr.Klinghardt may have new thoughts (although i have already tried lots of his stuff with other docs).Or yasko,but my son can't handle all those or can he?Or maybe Dr.Rossignol may be our answer or the emergency room visits.I have taken him from state to state to doctors.Valtrex is the only thing I have ever found that has any kind of positive results.But he still is sick daily.It Changes daily.I am now wondering about stem cells.We havehad many years without a real Christmas,but I can never say stop.Too bad God doesn't take the ones that need relief I am very sad this year.Sorry channa ,your question was a loaded one as you see.I am sorry to do this to this wonderfull group.I know everyone has their own missery. Thanks for all of you,I thank God everyday for alllll of you.Tammy F. well....i am not sure but it states in the article with the exception of wilsons disease.... do you supplement with molybedenum tammy? R.J. Sorenson at the University of Arkansas has done most of the pioneering research work on copper complexes. In one of his publications he states that with the exception of 's disease, there are no chronic degenerative diseases in man known to result from non-industrial exposure to copper. Copper salicylate has a stronger anti-inflammatory effect than cortisone but without the side effects. From: Tammy To: mb12valtrex Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 1:59 PM Subject: Re: copper sebecate This sure seems like a great article,if I could wrap my head around it.Can anyone descifer whether my son who has wilsons syndrome (among other things) should or should not take copper suppliments???? Thank you for any input,Tammy F. http://health-science-spirit.com/copper.html ?? On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 11:10 PM, Channa Brennon wrote: i wasnt able to open the link you put up... im so pissed i didnt save article...I will see if i can look it up some how again...but that makes sense about having the right form of copper..I was givin my son about 8mg of copper with great results....when i get my copper on thursday im goin to do the same maybe go higher and see if it will work on my migraines like the excedrin does...if the thoery is correct it should help me as well. channa From: T Lynn To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 10:49 PM Subject: Re: copper sebecate I just came across this at a website that Discusses Klinghardt's protocol for kpu: ANOTHER SCHOOL OF THOUGHT High toxic copper may indicate the child is copper deficient. Not having the right form of copper may cause individuals to hold on to un-usable toxic copper. When zinc will not drive down the copper, suspect this as the possible reason. In this case you may choose to give the child the correct form and size of copper in small amounts each night and within several months the toxic copper levels may fall.†-Jim from WHM.com Could this be what you were talking about? From: Channa Brennon To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 7:57 PM Subject: copper sebecate oh crap. i am sorry..I thought I kept article..I wiz thru so many things...sometimes i think i kept when i didnt. with all the crap I am goin thru i am even more absent minded bout stuff.. basically the article said copper is to qiute inflammation...zinc is to speed up the immune system....so if you are dealing with an overactive immune system AKA too much inflammation you body is goin to dump all reserves into blood stream trying to bring down all that inflammation...thats why you see such high copper in our kids.. I knew i was on to smething when one of the other moms from diffrent group said her kids hair was turning grey..and that is a sign of copper defieciency..in that other group the motto was zinc zinc and more zinc..so no one would listen to me. sigh. how can i go up against the almighty DAM docters. anyways....I stumbled apon copper cuz my son had signs of hyperthyriodism copper is used to treat this.. my son became so calm and happy when i gave it to him...I backed of thinking maybe the docters were right and I was wrong about the copper theory. but I just ordered some more copper sebacate....for my son and my own migraines from hell. I dont swear by anything but this is what I have used and found to work for me. channa From: T Lynn To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 5:09 PM Subject: Re: cactus juice/antiinflammatory would love to see that! From: Channa Brennon To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 5:06 PM Subject: Re: cactus juice/antiinflammatory Mhel, where is your kids inflammation? if it is in the gut..i swear by the bakin soda and benedryl combo... if it is the brain...i have a great article on copper sebecate as a great antiinflammatory.. the body uses copper to fight inflammation that is why so many kids test high in copper because the body is using it not because it has to much of it...that is one theory any ways if any one wants I can post the article channa From: Abenir Ilasin To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 3:43 PM Subject: RE: cactus juice/antiinflammatory Thank you for the post. God bless you and your family in moving overseas, same with Channa. I wonder if both of you are moving toward same place? Take care, Mhel To: mb12valtrex From: channabrennon@... Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 12:38:27 -0800 Subject: Re: cactus juice/antiinflammatory tunde..i am thinking of moving overseas as well....I tried the napolea cactus juice by trivita...is this the one you ere using? i am looking for easy acess supplements once I move over seas...let me know..what works for you ...i would appreciate the info:) channa From: Jaqueline To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 3:05 PM Subject: cactus juice/antiinflammatory Hi, I few months ago i was talking about the cactus juice i used for my son's brain inflammation. There were some people from overseas wanted to get the juice but they do not ship overseas. Now I had to move overseas and i did not want to give this up for my son. I searched and came up with this site. It is in powdered form and they ship everywhere and we just have to add water. here is the site http://www.nopalexport.com/contactus.htm I did not try it yet but ordering it tonight. I will let you all know if there is any difference in this product. Hope it will be some help for some of you. Tunde Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 25, 2011 Report Share Posted December 25, 2011 oh tammy....i am so sorry....please dont be sad i will give some ideas...what keeps kids in my opinion a lot of times...un responsive to supps or bad reactions to supps are mercury toxicicty....have you done any chelation? i know im always pushing AC chelation but heard so much sucess with it....ive had so much sucess with it. have you done a food allergy test? what diet is he on? if he is eating food that keeps his body in constant inflammation that is other cause of trouble with supps... then there is parasites... my heart breaks for you....and i will keep coming out with ideas as long as you will put up with them... or tell channa to shut up...sometimes i have a big mouth. you and your son are in my prayers tonight....all my love to you and your son. channa To: mb12valtrex Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 9:16 PMSubject: Re: copper sebecate Not usually either one.But with our thread I tried the copper and molyb. but my son got angry and hyper(he is sensitive to all things I just keep trying).I have tried naturals and unaturals my sons entire life and get the same reaction.He is 12 now and I am extremely discouragedHe is defficient in multiple vits and minerals.Has lyme and co infections but can't treat as he has continuous sickness from meds.The docs always say its die off then months and years later he is still sick.They are stumped.Its got to be something geneticaly I am missing.I did the genomic testing for detoxing and just did the 23 and me genetic testing,thanks to others advice.I still have 6 wks to wait for results.He looks like he may die every day.I don't know how his little body takes.He has lost his childhood to misery .I hope and pray everyday that an answer turns up.Its so cruel and sad to see .I have thought Dr.Klinghardt may have new thoughts (although i have already tried lots of his stuff with other docs).Or yasko,but my son can't handle all those or can he?Or maybe Dr.Rossignol may be our answer or the emergency room visits.I have taken him from state to state to doctors.Valtrex is the only thing I have ever found that has any kind of positive results.But he still is sick daily.It Changes daily.I am now wondering about stem cells.We havehad many years without a real Christmas,but I can never say stop.Too bad God doesn't take the ones that need relief I am very sad this year.Sorry channa ,your question was a loaded one as you see.I am sorry to do this to this wonderfull group.I know everyone has their own missery. Thanks for all of you,I thank God everyday for alllll of you.Tammy F. well....i am not sure but it states in the article with the exception of wilsons disease.... do you supplement with molybedenum tammy? R.J. Sorenson at the University of Arkansas has done most of the pioneering research work on copper complexes. In one of his publications he states that with the exception of 's disease, there are no chronic degenerative diseases in man known to result from non-industrial exposure to copper. Copper salicylate has a stronger anti-inflammatory effect than cortisone but without the side effects. To: mb12valtrex Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 1:59 PMSubject: Re: copper sebecate This sure seems like a great article,if I could wrap my head around it.Can anyone descifer whether my son who has wilsons syndrome (among other things) should or should not take copper suppliments???? Thank you for any input,Tammy F. http://health-science-spirit.com/copper.html ?? i wasnt able to open the link you put up... im so pissed i didnt save article...I will see if i can look it up some how again...but that makes sense about having the right form of copper..I was givin my son about 8mg of copper with great results....when i get my copper on thursday im goin to do the same maybe go higher and see if it will work on my migraines like the excedrin does...if the thoery is correct it should help me as well. channa To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 10:49 PMSubject: Re: copper sebecate I just came across this at a website that Discusses Klinghardt's protocol for kpu: ANOTHER SCHOOL OF THOUGHT High toxic copper may indicate the child is copper deficient. Not having the right form of copper may cause individuals to hold on to un-usable toxic copper. When zinc will not drive down the copper, suspect this as the possible reason. In this case you may choose to give the child the correct form and size of copper in small amounts each night and within several months the toxic copper levels may fall.†-Jim from WHM.com Could this be what you were talking about? To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 7:57 PMSubject: copper sebecate oh crap. i am sorry..I thought I kept article..I wiz thru so many things...sometimes i think i kept when i didnt. with all the crap I am goin thru i am even more absent minded bout stuff.. basically the article said copper is to qiute inflammation...zinc is to speed up the immune system....so if you are dealing with an overactive immune system AKA too much inflammation you body is goin to dump all reserves into blood stream trying to bring down all that inflammation...thats why you see such high copper in our kids.. I knew i was on to smething when one of the other moms from diffrent group said her kids hair was turning grey..and that is a sign of copper defieciency..in that other group the motto was zinc zinc and more zinc..so no one would listen to me. sigh. how can i go up against the almighty DAM docters. anyways....I stumbled apon copper cuz my son had signs of hyperthyriodism copper is used to treat this.. my son became so calm and happy when i gave it to him...I backed of thinking maybe the docters were right and I was wrong about the copper theory. but I just ordered some more copper sebacate....for my son and my own migraines from hell. I dont swear by anything but this is what I have used and found to work for me. channa To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 5:09 PMSubject: Re: cactus juice/antiinflammatory would love to see that! To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 5:06 PMSubject: Re: cactus juice/antiinflammatory Mhel, where is your kids inflammation? if it is in the gut..i swear by the bakin soda and benedryl combo... if it is the brain...i have a great article on copper sebecate as a great antiinflammatory.. the body uses copper to fight inflammation that is why so many kids test high in copper because the body is using it not because it has to much of it...that is one theory any ways if any one wants I can post the article channa To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 3:43 PMSubject: RE: cactus juice/antiinflammatory Thank you for the post. God bless you andyour family in moving overseas, same withChanna. I wonder if both of you are movingtoward same place? Take care, Mhel To: mb12valtrex From: channabrennon@...Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 12:38:27 -0800Subject: Re: cactus juice/antiinflammatory tunde..i am thinking of moving overseas as well....I tried the napolea cactus juice by trivita...is this the one you ere using? i am looking for easy acess supplements once I move over seas...let me know..what works for you ..i would appreciate the info:) channa To: mb12valtrex Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 3:05 PMSubject: cactus juice/antiinflammatory Hi,I few months ago i was talking about the cactus juice i used for my son's brain inflammation. There were some people from overseas wanted to get the juice but they do not ship overseas.Now I had to move overseas and i did not want to give this up for my son. I searched and came up with this site. It is in powdered form and they ship everywhere and we just have to add water.here is the site http://www.nopalexport.com/contactus.htmI did not try it yet but ordering it tonight. I will let you all know if there is any difference in this product.Hope it will be some help for some of you.Tunde Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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