Re: Responses to my Estrace Questions - (Now 6 O'clock area) -

[Guest guest]

,

I wanted to tell you what I learned at my last visit with Rhonda. I

was still having issues with my 6 o'clock perineal tissue. She did

skin rolling on it b/c it hurt just touching it. My hubby does the

skin rolling on it now and has found that it is SO much better after

just 3 times. He's having a hard time finding skin to grab. It is

very painful (as all skin rolling is), but it doesn't last as long

since there is so little of an area to cover. My hyminal (sp?) ring is

rough and causing tension too so he has to skin roll that. Rhonda also

said to have some sex w/o much lube to create the skin rolling with his

penis. My perineal tissue also does not relax as much as my pelvic

floor causing another issue to intercourse. The Estrace didn't seem to

do as much for me as the skin rolling is already doing. I would

suggest doing both (at least test that skin). I remember that you had

wrote me with this issue before, so I hope that this bit of knowledge

can help. Enjoy Cali for me!

in IL

>

> ?? Chelle,

>

> I spoke to Pete a few hours ago and he stated he could call my

OBGYN's office and speak to my doctor and get her to change the script

over the phone....he's already been more?willing to help me?than any of

my doctor's offices or local pharmacies, go figure!?I decided?to also

fax him my script for Lidocaine.?I've never used Lidocaine, I'm going

to try it to numb the 6 0' clock area when I have intercourse. What is

that area/skin called that?becomes inflammed and burns??How much

Lidocaine?should I use??Pete told me that he had the emu oil and he

believes they get it from laidinmt.com, which is awesome because thats

where I purchase mine and I LOVE it!!! Have a lovely day gals.

[Guest guest]

I appreciate that info , how are you doing today? The hymen skin for me is the main problem I have as far as external pain. The penis rubs back and forth causing friction, inflammation and burning. Thats why I've decided to try Estradiol w/emu oil and apply it to that area daily. My boyfriend and I use condoms and it helps since there's not skin on skin contact. Have you tried that? By the way Cali weather is beautiful right now, I leave for a cruise to Mexico on May 5th, so stoked!

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Re: Responses to my Estrace Questions - (Now 6 O'clock area) -

,

I wanted to tell you what I learned at my last visit with Rhonda. I

was still having issues with my 6 o'clock perineal tissue. She did

skin rolling on it b/c it hurt just touching it. My hubby does the

skin rolling on it now and has found that it is SO much better after

just 3 times. He's having a hard time finding skin to grab. It is

very painful (as all skin rolling is), but it doesn't last as long

since there is so little of an area to cover. My hyminal (sp?) ring is

rough and causing tension too so he has to skin roll that. Rhonda also

said to have some sex w/o much lube to create the skin rolling with his

penis. My perineal tissue also does not relax as much as my pelvic

floor causing another issue to intercourse. The Estrace didn't seem to

do as much for me as the skin rolling is already doing. I would

suggest doing both (at least test that skin). I remember that you had

wrote me with this issue before, so I hope that this bit of knowledge

can help. Enjoy Cali for me!

in IL

>

> ?? Chelle,

>

> I spoke to Pete a few hours ago and he stated he could call my

OBGYN's office and speak to my doctor and get her to change the script

over the phone....he's already been more?willing to help me?than any of

my doctor's offices or local pharmacies, go figure!?I decided?to also

fax him my script for Lidocaine.?I've never used Lidocaine, I'm going

to try it to numb the 6 0' clock area when I have intercourse. What is

that area/skin called that?becomes inflammed and burns??How much

Lidocaine?should I use??Pete told me that he had the emu oil and he

believes they get it from laidinmt.com, which is awesome because thats

where I purchase mine and I LOVE it!!! Have a lovely day gals.

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[Guest guest]

Hey ,

I'm glad to pass on anything that can help. I am doing great today.

Hubby and I tried out skin rolling and then sex once there was no more

pain with the skin rolling and he had streched me out, and it was

great! No pain and no drugs masking the pain! In fact, I am not even

burning/hurting at the perineum like I usually did. We've only done it

4-5 times. No, we haven't tried the condoms. It always took my

husband too long for my pain tolerance if he wore one, so we bit the

bullet and did pull out method. Even though we didn't have a lot of

sex, it is still amazing that we didn't get pregnant for 6+ years that

way until we wanted to.

I would highly suggest the skin rolling b/c my hymen was so tight and

he managed to smooth it out. I took the E for 2 months and so very

little change. The skin rolling did it the first time. I know that I

am going to have to continue doing it for awhile to change it for good,

but for now, I am very encouraged.

Please let me know if this helps you too. Enjoy Mexico for me.

Last time I was there, I came home to find out I was 1 month prego! I

conceived 5 days before we left. If your cruise takes you to Puerto

Vallarta, do the canopy tour if you have time....it's AMAZING! You and

flying through the trees on a cable. Awesome, awesome, awesome! Also,

go to Pipi's for dinner. You have to get directions...it's off the

beaten path in Old PV.

Take care,

>

> I appreciate that info , how are you doing today? The hymen

skin for me is the main problem I have as far as external pain. The

penis rubs back and forth causing friction, inflammation and burning.

Thats why I've decided to try Estradiol w/emu oil and apply it to?that

area daily. My boyfriend and I use condoms and it helps since there's

not skin on skin contact. Have you tried that??By the way Cali weather

is beautiful right now, I leave for a cruise to Mexico on May 5th, so

stoked!

>

> ~~

>

[Guest guest]

Hi and -

What was your diagnosis?

What exactly is skin rolling?

I'm going to a new PT on Thursday of this week, hopefully to get a

more detailed diagnosis. I was diagnosed with vaginismus and levator

ani spasm. I think that my hymen is tight, just like you describe.

The new PT is in Richmond VA and works at a women's health center. I

had gone to a PT in Arlington and she did biofeedback. When I asked

her what skin rolling was she had never heard of it.

I know many of you will tell me to subscribe to the Happy Pelvis site

(one of you automatically subscribed me once, don't know who you

were!) but I really don't have time to keep up with two listservs and

I also think my problem is hormonally related since it goes away

right after I ovulate (and then comes back).

shannon

> >

> > I appreciate that info , how are you doing today? The

hymen

> skin for me is the main problem I have as far as external pain. The

> penis rubs back and forth causing friction, inflammation and

burning.

> Thats why I've decided to try Estradiol w/emu oil and apply it to?

that

> area daily. My boyfriend and I use condoms and it helps since

there's

> not skin on skin contact. Have you tried that??By the way Cali

weather

> is beautiful right now, I leave for a cruise to Mexico on May 5th,

so

> stoked!

> >

> > ~~

> >

>

[Guest guest]

,

My diagnosis is Vulvar Vestibulitis Syndrome, Pelvic Floor Dysfunction and Atopic Dermatitis (Eczema). Is that your main area of pain that being your hymen? If I could just get to the point where the hymen doesn't hurt on contact, then I could focus on my pelvic floor muscles. I picked up my script of Lidocaine last night and I plan on using it tonight for the first time. I hope it makes intercourse much less painful and tolerable because I know my boyfriend is highly frustrated with the lack of sex. I feel guilty at times, that I'm not able to satisfy him like any other woman could. Does anybody feel this way?

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Re: Responses to my Estrace Questions - (Now 6 O'clock area) -

Hi and -

What was your diagnosis?

What exactly is skin rolling?

I'm going to a new PT on Thursday of this week, hopefully to get a

more detailed diagnosis. I was diagnosed with vaginismus and levator

ani spasm. I think that my hymen is tight, just like you describe.

The new PT is in Richmond VA and works at a women's health center. I

had gone to a PT in Arlington and she did biofeedback. When I asked

her what skin rolling was she had never heard of it.

I know many of you will tell me to subscribe to the Happy Pelvis site

(one of you automatically subscribed me once, don't know who you

were!) but I really don't have time to keep up with two listservs and

I also think my problem is hormonally related since it goes away

right after I ovulate (and then comes back).

shannon

> >

> > I appreciate that info , how are you doing today? The

hymen

> skin for me is the main problem I have as far as external pain. The

> penis rubs back and forth causing friction, inflammation and

burning.

> Thats why I've decided to try Estradiol w/emu oil and apply it to?

that

> area daily. My boyfriend and I use condoms and it helps since

there's

> not skin on skin contact. Have you tried that??By the way Cali

weather

> is beautiful right now, I leave for a cruise to Mexico on May 5th,

so

> stoked!

> >

> > ~~

> >

>

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[Guest guest]

,

I completely understand about how you feel about feeling guilty for

not being able to freely have sex with your boyfriend - I feel the

same way. But when I read your post, I was like - that's

ridiculous!!! Would your boyfriend feel bad for not being able to

have sex with you if the head of his penis was red, itching, burning

and inflammed? No way - you would feel bad for him. This whole

thing sucks.

I have found Valium has helped my pelvic floor muscles a lot -- and

not just when i take it whichis every other day or so, but overall.

Good luck,

Emma

> > >

> > > I appreciate that info , how are you doing today? The

> hymen

> > skin for me is the main problem I have as far as external pain.

The

> > penis rubs back and forth causing friction, inflammation and

> burning.

> > Thats why I've decided to try Estradiol w/emu oil and apply it to?

> that

> > area daily. My boyfriend and I use condoms and it helps since

> there's

> > not skin on skin contact. Have you tried that??By the way Cali

> weather

> > is beautiful right now, I leave for a cruise to Mexico on May

5th,

> so

> > stoked!

> > >

> > > ~~

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

,

I do feel badly at times that my husband doesn't get as much sex as

other men - but honestly, as some point we have to get over it, because

it is what it is, and we are doing the best we can! He knows how hard I

try. I often think of men in the military, who aren't getting any for

quite long deployments and seem to survive. I think it's just important

to be intimate in other ways or even just cuddle so he remembers you

like being with him. =)

Melinda

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

My initial diagnosis was VV contact only. Rhonda K. (my PT) told me

that I had some nerve issues causing it and then she told me what was

up with my hymen/perineal tissues, but I don't remember the

details...just how to try to fix it.

I saw that Chelle sent you some great info about skin rolling. It's

kinda tough to get the hang of it, but once you do, you've got it.

With the skin rolling, my hubby does it in all of the hymen and

perineal tissues. He then uses his fingers to resist and stretch me

as I do a kegal. I only do a max of 5 of these and this is strictly

to promote stretching since I am too tight. You shouldn't do kegals

by themselves as they will tighten you up worse.

Definitely find a PT that does skin rolling as that combined with no

underware has taken away all of my pain from VV. I just have to keep

doing it until it is gone forever.

I wish you well with your new PT.

in IL

[Guest guest]

Hey ,

I know that I've gone through those feelings plenty. I've been married

almost 8 years and we've had to deal with this from day one. Imagine

being afraid of your new husband being near you b/c he wants sex all of

the time. Even though I'm getting better, I have the mental component

to deal with now. For a long time I constantly felt bad that we only

had sex about once a month, actually I still do. It is just something

to work through and realize that we are so much more than just sexual

beings with one another.