RE: Dangerous!/ Need help! Aggression has become dangerous

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Look at these dangers: Would you like just a little bit of PUBLISHED information on the harmful effects of NAC? Visit WebMD! http://www.webmd.com/drugs/drug-148067-nac.aspx?drugid=148067 & drugname=nac & source=1 & pagenumber=6 You'll find a shocking list of side effects that include lung damage!  And let’s not forget the liver damage . . . From: sList [mailto:sList ] On Behalf Of Marla GoodmanSent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 1:56 AMTo: sList Subject: Re: Re: Need help! Aggression has become dangerous  I give josh 600mg twice a day of N-Acetyl-Cysteine. He is almost 18 and 6'2 and a 265pds. Puberty was Josh's down fall. The psychiatrist changed his meds. He took him off of Deprecate and put him on Tegretel.. Josh continued to get violent. He started to give him psychotic meds.the more he had these blow ups the higher doses of meds. He continued to hurt me,his sister and my husband. We had to put him in university pavilion for 10 days. They sedated him and sent him home with more meds The right side of his head seemed to hurt every time he had blow up. Josh's headaches seem to be getting worse. He had an eye examine, a cat scan, 2 EEG's and nothing came up.. The Neurologist said it could be cluster headaches .2 weeks ago Josh had the worst episode. .My husband was driving the car, Josh broke the car window with his head and elbow.Throwing glass at my husband. Came home broke pictures, mirrors, head and feet thru the wall.the worst was he bit me and I went to the ER for stitches. My daughter call 911 and didn't know who she was calling for. Josh who was bleeding, my husband who was getting kicked and couldn't hold him anymore.or me. The police,paramedics,and so many others came . I had already given him a tranquilizer and he calmed downI was looking into a behavior group home for him. That's how bad it was.. The next day I call the neurologist and he changed him back to Depekote, Topamax and NO psychotic drugs.The psychiatrist discharge him because I listened to the neurologist.WHY couldn't they work together..Josh's head aches have lessened and he started singing and dancing again. It's only been a week and take everyday at a time. If I had listen to my gut feeling maybe Josh wouldn't have had as many headaches The DR's aren't always right, we are their parent.sometimes we know best. Re: Re: Need help! Aggression has become dangerousThere was a study using N-acetyl cysteine on ADHD preschoolers who were aggressive. We used that dose on our snarly, nasty 280 lb 2o year old bipolar Aspie, and there was a HUGE, and I mean HUGE difference. He smiles again. Wish we had known it when he was more violent. And he was. Very.> > Apple pectin and gigas (Korean Herb found in the NOW product Ache Action) will both lower testosterone. The issue is when the kids are younger they have a better chance of keeping the testosterone down with natural supplements. When they hit puberty at 13 or worse yet when they get between 18 and 21, the testosterone is too high to reduce naturally due to the dangerous behaviors. The high testosterone will also increase not only aggression but OCD and anxiety. The whole combination is deadly because behaviors can become almost psychotic. Psychotropic drugs such as resperdal will keep androgens down (testosterone) because prolactin is up. But the side effects are not good and many times the drugs stop working after a while. What is interesting is these drugs are used also with schizophrenics for the rage and psychotic behaviors. We have an office here in Tamarac for Dr. Mark Geier who treats over 1500 patients with autism and high testosterone across the US. This has a name....Hyperandrogenemia and if this is the problem your daughter has, you will at least be in the right place for help. Badillo9@...> > > > I am so sorry for you. My son who weighs 200 lbs. used to have very aggressive violent outbursts. He occasionally still has them. A lot of autistic kids have a genetic marker for excessive testosterone. My son is one of those kids. My son takes niacinamide, and lemon balm as well as stavzor (Depakote) to control this. We keep xanax on hand to give him if the situation gets really bad. Believe it or not eating peas will lower testosterone levels. In fact a German study was done on the effects of peas and beans on testosterone levels. I know how upsetting this is for you. When you see your child's signs that she is going to have an explosive situation, maybe giving her an ibuprofin would help. Sometimes it is hard for our kids to express when they have a headache, earache, etc. > A big thing with my son is staying calm and not being aggressive toward him during an " episode " As soon as he starts to " get of kilter " I usually take him to his room and tell him to stay there until he can calm down. Sometimes he will fall asleep and when he awakens he is as sunny and happy as ever. I often have to remind my husband and other sons not to interfere, as their first response is to become aggressive and to say what my DD son perceives as threatening type things to him, (i.e. knock it off, don't threaten your mother or you'll have to deal with me.) or they yell at him. Sometimes I just put my son in the car and we go for a long ride until he eventually has a good cry and calms down. When my son is having a day when everything seems to frustrate or upset him I try to take him to the beach, the park, or even shopping to get him away from the things that stress him. I don't think there is any real solution to this problem, but there are some thi ngs we can do to make it a little less upsetting. > Glenda> > > >> > > > Yesterday my ASD child's aggression got to the point that it could not be controlled. She was so bad that the police had to be called to restrain her. She is very big and strong. she was very violent and caused a lot of damage to the home. she hurt her caregiver as well.> > > > We do not what caused this as she literally went from one room to seek out her caregiver and start punching. Her neurologist told us to go to the ER for a psych evaluation, though honestly I think this is a neurological problem. > > > > We are going back to the ER today to do this, but since she is now calm they will treat this as non important and make us wait for hours. I just want her to be looked at by a doctor and frankly be given a strong medication in the interim until all the tests can be done. This can not happen again, I never thought I'd say this but we are actually scared of this kid and what she could do.> > > > Any advice? We were there last night till midnight with no clear answers to a solution and I'm afraid it will be the same today. I am at my wits end. Next time I'm afraid that she will send someone else to the ER.> > > > Thanks.> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > ------------------------------------