Problem Solving/Response to Intervention (PS/RtI)

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Do any of the schools follow a state mandate for RtI?

[Guest guest]

Im sorry I don't understand your question... All schools follow reading programs and RTI is now being taken away due to funding the following year. Well I guess because its happening almost to every school I visit. If your child needs the help he/she should get the help no matter what. If they take FCAT they should make reasonable accommodations mandated to his/her IEP to meet his/her reading goals on that IEP. Make a reading goal if you don't already have one. That will make sure they wont drop the ball. Milian aka Enzo's mom

Do any of the schools follow a state mandate for RtI?

[Guest guest]

Does anyone care about RtI?

To: sList Sent: Tue, May 24, 2011 6:10:16 PMSubject: Problem Solving/Response to Intervention (PS/RtI)

Do any of the schools follow a state mandate for RtI?

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Never heard of it..can you elaborate on what you know about it?

To: sList Sent: Thu, May 26, 2011 9:23:29 PMSubject: Re: Problem Solving/Response to Intervention (PS/RtI)

Does anyone care about RtI?

To: sList Sent: Tue, May 24, 2011 6:10:16 PMSubject: Problem Solving/Response to Intervention (PS/RtI)

Do any of the schools follow a state mandate for RtI?

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Response to intervention:

http://www.florida-rti.org/

Supposed to intervene for the child who is lagging behind in a subject before the need for sped evaluations etc.

From: Karp

Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 9:25 AM

To: sList

Subject: Re: Problem Solving/Response to Intervention (PS/RtI)

Never heard of it..can you elaborate on what you know about it?

To: sList Sent: Thu, May 26, 2011 9:23:29 PMSubject: Re: Problem Solving/Response to Intervention (PS/RtI)

Does anyone care about RtI?

To: sList Sent: Tue, May 24, 2011 6:10:16 PMSubject: Problem Solving/Response to Intervention (PS/RtI)

Do any of the schools follow a state mandate for RtI?

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The state's Response to Intervention is a monitoring program that evaluates progress in Reading and Math for those who are "struggling" in these areas. I am familiar with the state DOE link. But where is the link for Broward County? Or does Broward County School District even care?

Subject: Re: Problem Solving/Response to Intervention (PS/RtI)To: sList Date: Friday, May 27, 2011, 1:33 PM

Response to intervention:

http://www.florida-rti.org/

Supposed to intervene for the child who is lagging behind in a subject before the need for sped evaluations etc.

From: Karp

Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 9:25 AM

To: sList

Subject: Re: Problem Solving/Response to Intervention (PS/RtI)

Never heard of it..can you elaborate on what you know about it?

To: sList Sent: Thu, May 26, 2011 9:23:29 PMSubject: Re: Problem Solving/Response to Intervention (PS/RtI)

Does anyone care about RtI?

To: sList Sent: Tue, May 24, 2011 6:10:16 PMSubject: Problem Solving/Response to Intervention (PS/RtI)

Do any of the schools follow a state mandate for RtI?

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yes, we care, because this is what occurs prior to a child getting any type of special education services. This could be anything from extra reading or math tutoring, all the way to needing a higher level of services. This does not mean the child will be given a label and an IEP, its just a starting point to figure out what the child may need in order to be given the appropriate support.Subject: Re: Problem Solving/Response to Intervention (PS/RtI)To: sList Date: Friday, May 27, 2011, 1:23 AM

Does anyone care about RtI?

To: sList Sent: Tue, May 24, 2011 6:10:16 PMSubject: Problem Solving/Response to Intervention (PS/RtI)

Do any of the schools follow a state mandate for RtI?

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what the issue with broward? Schools actually spend quite a long time several times a month in RTI

Subject: Re: Problem Solving/Response to Intervention (PS/RtI)To: sList Date: Friday, May 27, 2011, 1:33 PM

Response to intervention:

http://www.florida-rti.org/

Supposed to intervene for the child who is lagging behind in a subject before the need for sped evaluations etc.

From: Karp

Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 9:25 AM

To: sList

Subject: Re: Problem Solving/Response to Intervention (PS/RtI)

Never heard of it..can you elaborate on what you know about it?

To: sList Sent: Thu, May 26, 2011 9:23:29 PMSubject: Re: Problem Solving/Response to Intervention (PS/RtI)

Does anyone care about RtI?

To: sList Sent: Tue, May 24, 2011 6:10:16 PMSubject: Problem Solving/Response to Intervention (PS/RtI)

Do any of the schools follow a state mandate for RtI?

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Not in my school. It's easy to put a remedial program in place and figure the program will solve the problem. Of course in the case of an autistic child, if it doesn't work we can blame the autism. The real problem is how they monitor the individual. If something isn't working, it should be discarded and you don't wait for the quarter to finish or the school year, for that matter.

Failure to find a link on the district website only goes to reinforce the district's lack of adherence to the program. It is easier to find the cafeteria menu. Important programs are listed but nothing on RtI.

Subject: Re: Problem Solving/Response to Intervention (PS/RtI)To: sList Date: Friday, May 27, 2011, 1:33 PM

Response to intervention:

http://www.florida-rti.org/

Supposed to intervene for the child who is lagging behind in a subject before the need for sped evaluations etc.

From: Karp

Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 9:25 AM

To: sList

Subject: Re: Problem Solving/Response to Intervention (PS/RtI)

Never heard of it..can you elaborate on what you know about it?

To: sList Sent: Thu, May 26, 2011 9:23:29 PMSubject: Re: Problem Solving/Response to Intervention (PS/RtI)

Does anyone care about RtI?

To: sList Sent: Tue, May 24, 2011 6:10:16 PMSubject: Problem Solving/Response to Intervention (PS/RtI)

Do any of the schools follow a state mandate for RtI?

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Jess, I know teachers care. RtI is for all students. But the process is more involved for developmentally delayed. Often scientifically based material doesn't apply to the developmentally delayed because there is so little out there. It means professional staff have to put on their "thinking caps" to come up with interventions.

Subject: Re: Problem Solving/Response to Intervention (PS/RtI)To: sList Date: Friday, May 27, 2011, 1:23 AM

Does anyone care about RtI?

To: sList Sent: Tue, May 24, 2011 6:10:16 PMSubject: Problem Solving/Response to Intervention (PS/RtI)

Do any of the schools follow a state mandate for RtI?

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RTI is not for students who already have a diagnosis and are receiving services. It is meant to help the teachers who have students who seem to need extra help. They are labeled, sort of, while they are still in the classroom without services. They are either tier 1, 2 or 3, depending on how much help they need.

Too many teachers struggle alone with students who are falling behind, and RTI is a system or program that is supposed to help prevent that more students fall so far behind that they eventually need to be pulled out of the classroom. Most of us older teachers have done RTI all our lives. It is just that now it is mandatory.

Teacher.

To: sList Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 11:15 AMSubject: Re: Problem Solving/Response to Intervention (PS/RtI)

Jess, I know teachers care. RtI is for all students. But the process is more involved for developmentally delayed. Often scientifically based material doesn't apply to the developmentally delayed because there is so little out there. It means professional staff have to put on their "thinking caps" to come up with interventions.

Subject: Re: Problem Solving/Response to Intervention (PS/RtI)To: sList Date: Friday, May 27, 2011, 1:23 AM

Does anyone care about RtI?

To: sList Sent: Tue, May 24, 2011 6:10:16 PMSubject: Problem Solving/Response to Intervention (PS/RtI)

Do any of the schools follow a state mandate for RtI?

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The PMP is not the problem, and there are lots of assessments that can be used to track progress. The Struggling Readers Charts include all kinds of assessments. You can google it...

The real problem is that the State comes up with progrms that the district is asked to implement, but the State does not provide the districts with money to do this. The RTI is not a bad idea, but it is expensive. How can RTI be implemented when there is no money?

Below is a letter from Notter to the state begging for help.

Read the last paragraph starting with "Again..."

There is no money to implement this appropriately.

Question to Jess: Do your students have a PMP? If so, what assessment are you using?

Teacher.

******************************************

OFFICE OF THE SUPERINTENDENT OF SCHOOLS

JAMES F. NOTTER

SUPERINTENDENT

Telephone Facsimile:

School Board Budget Workshop

April 16, 2009

Response to Intervention

Response to Intervention is a formal, structured, collaborative, problem solving process with

intervention, delivery, driven by data and progress monitoring. It is a systematic process of

instruction, guidance and reporting. Broward County Public Schools has had a collaborative

problem solving process and teams at every school for over a decade. This process was never a

mandate through policy to be consistent across the School District. Some schools are strong in

this process where others are not.

For years, the School District tested students for disabilities and then diagnosed, giving the

student an instruction plan, but lacked in good reporting for the learning continuum. This new

process for intervention will do away with testing for disabilities. Response to Intervention is a

tiered system of student intervention that becomes more intensive as you move up the tiers. If a

student does not improve by tier 3 the student will then be tested for disabilities. All students will

be diagnosed, prescribed, monitored and adjustments will be made along the way if the student

does not improve. This process focuses on the entire student body. A learning program will be

designed or each student's individual needs.

This process must have effective data collection, progress monitoring, and evaluation of

interventions. There are support staff, which are very knowledgeable about intervention and the

skills needed to implement intervention. A big piece that is needed is a data system to collect the

progress of all students.

The Board wanted to know who the point person will be at each school, who will monitor the

program, and who will facilitate? There will have to be a case management person. Staff is in

the process of determining this and is thinking that the assistant principal would do that. Once

the final plan is in place, the Board will be updated.

This mandated process, with training and other costs for the School District, is unfunded by the

State. It is estimated the cost to the School District will be $6.8 million. The fidelity of

implementation will be scrutinized by the State. It is a costly program creating the infrastructure

for learning needs and will require a big investment of money.

In order for this to work a buy in is needed from all schools. It usually takes two to three years

to get the buy in to do the process completely right. The State is asking us to skip the buy in and

just do it.

The School Board supports the premise that this is a best practice and students would benefit.

They want to be successful and need to have the infrastructure and buy in piece. Doing it now,

without the funds, would be a half implemented process and possibly fail.

Again, the School Board Members are asking the State to defer this unfunded program for one

year until funds are available to implement the process correctly.

Material for this presentation is on the eAgenda, April 16, 2009, Budget Workshop

To: sList Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 12:21 PMSubject: Re: Problem Solving/Response to Intervention (PS/RtI)

> > > > Subject: Re: Problem Solving/Response to Intervention (PS/RtI)> To: sList > Date: Friday, May 27, 2011, 1:33 PM> > > Â > > > > > Response to intervention:> Â > http://www.florida-rti.org/> Â > Supposed to intervene for the child who is lagging behind in a subject before the need for sped evaluations etc.> > > Â > > From: Karp > Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 9:25 AM> To: sList > Subject: Re: Problem Solving/Response to Intervention (PS/RtI)> Â > Â > > > > Never heard of it..can you elaborate on what you know about it?> > > >

 > > > > To: sList > Sent: Thu, May 26, 2011 9:23:29 PM> Subject: Re: Problem Solving/Response to Intervention (PS/RtI)> >  > > > > Does anyone care about RtI?> > >  > > > > To: sList > Sent: Tue, May 24, 2011 6:10:16 PM> Subject: Problem Solving/Response to Intervention (PS/RtI)> >  > > Do any of the schools follow a state mandate for

RtI?>

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Dear Hardworking Teacher,

No money. You say it is expensive.Notter says it will cost $6.8 million. Is that a total cost or an additional cost for the district. The professionals are already in place and on the payroll. What are the additional costs? The school district is so concerned with FCAT scores in Reading and Math, but they will not do something which would be positive for the District. How are other districts, like Dade and Palm Beach, coping? Has the program been mandated. And is the District's position the same today as it was in 2009, 2 years later?

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To: "sList " <sList >Sent: Wed, June 1, 2011 1:18:37 AMSubject: Re: Re: Problem Solving/Response to Intervention (PS/RtI)

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The PMP is not the problem, and there are lots of assessments that can be used to track progress. The Struggling Readers Charts include all kinds of assessments. You can google it...

The real problem is that the State comes up with progrms that the district is asked to implement, but the State does not provide the districts with money to do this. The RTI is not a bad idea, but it is expensive. How can RTI be implemented when there is no money?

Below is a letter from Notter to the state begging for help.

Read the last paragraph starting with "Again..."

There is no money to implement this appropriately.

Question to Jess: Do your students have a PMP? If so, what assessment are you using?

Teacher.

******************************************

OFFICE OF THE SUPERINTENDENT OF SCHOOLS

JAMES F. NOTTER

SUPERINTENDENT

Telephone Facsimile:

School Board Budget Workshop

April 16, 2009

Response to Intervention

Response to Intervention is a formal, structured, collaborative, problem solving process with

intervention, delivery, driven by data and progress monitoring. It is a systematic process of

instruction, guidance and reporting. Broward County Public Schools has had a collaborative

problem solving process and teams at every school for over a decade. This process was never a

mandate through policy to be consistent across the School District. Some schools are strong in

this process where others are not.

For years, the School District tested students for disabilities and then diagnosed, giving the

student an instruction plan, but lacked in good reporting for the learning continuum. This new

process for intervention will do away with testing for disabilities. Response to Intervention is a

tiered system of student intervention that becomes more intensive as you move up the tiers. If a

student does not improve by tier 3 the student will then be tested for disabilities. All students will

be diagnosed, prescribed, monitored and adjustments will be made along the way if the student

does not improve. This process focuses on the entire student body. A learning program will be

designed or each student's individual needs.

This process must have effective data collection, progress monitoring, and evaluation of

interventions. There are support staff, which are very knowledgeable about intervention and the

skills needed to implement intervention. A big piece that is needed is a data system to collect the

progress of all students.

The Board wanted to know who the point person will be at each school, who will monitor the

program, and who will facilitate? There will have to be a case management person. Staff is in

the process of determining this and is thinking that the assistant principal would do that. Once

the final plan is in place, the Board will be updated.

This mandated process, with training and other costs for the School District, is unfunded by the

State. It is estimated the cost to the School District will be $6.8 million. The fidelity of

implementation will be scrutinized by the State. It is a costly program creating the infrastructure

for learning needs and will require a big investment of money.

In order for this to work a buy in is needed from all schools. It usually takes two to three years

to get the buy in to do the process completely right. The State is asking us to skip the buy in and

just do it.

The School Board supports the premise that this is a best practice and students would benefit.

They want to be successful and need to have the infrastructure and buy in piece. Doing it now,

without the funds, would be a half implemented process and possibly fail.

Again, the School Board Members are asking the State to defer this unfunded program for one

year until funds are available to implement the process correctly.

Material for this presentation is on the eAgenda, April 16, 2009, Budget Workshop

To: sList Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 12:21 PMSubject: Re: Problem Solving/Response to Intervention (PS/RtI)

> > > > Subject: Re: Problem Solving/Response to Intervention (PS/RtI)> To: sList > Date: Friday, May 27, 2011, 1:33 PM> > > Â > > > > > Response to intervention:> Â > http://www.florida-rti.org/> Â > Supposed to intervene for the child who is lagging behind in a subject before the need for sped evaluations etc.> > > Â > > From: Karp > Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 9:25 AM> To: sList > Subject: Re: Problem Solving/Response to Intervention (PS/RtI)> Â > Â > > > > Never heard of it..can you elaborate on what you know about it?> > > >

 > > > > To: sList > Sent: Thu, May 26, 2011 9:23:29 PM> Subject: Re: Problem Solving/Response to Intervention (PS/RtI)> >  > > > > Does anyone care about RtI?> > >  > > > > To: sList > Sent: Tue, May 24, 2011 6:10:16 PM> Subject: Problem Solving/Response to Intervention (PS/RtI)> >  > > Do any of the schools follow a state mandate for

RtI?>

[Guest guest]

I just wanted to add, your statement, "RTI is not for students who already have a diagnosis and are receiving services", bothers me. Are you basically saying that disabled children who have IEP's are not eligible for RtI? Can you give the reasoning behind this or perhaps find me written policy stating such?

To: "sList " <sList >Sent: Wed, June 1, 2011 12:29:44 AMSubject: Re: Problem Solving/Response to Intervention (PS/RtI)

,

RTI is not for students who already have a diagnosis and are receiving services. It is meant to help the teachers who have students who seem to need extra help. They are labeled, sort of, while they are still in the classroom without services. They are either tier 1, 2 or 3, depending on how much help they need.

Too many teachers struggle alone with students who are falling behind, and RTI is a system or program that is supposed to help prevent that more students fall so far behind that they eventually need to be pulled out of the classroom. Most of us older teachers have done RTI all our lives. It is just that now it is mandatory.

Teacher.

To: sList Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 11:15 AMSubject: Re: Problem Solving/Response to Intervention (PS/RtI)

Jess, I know teachers care. RtI is for all students. But the process is more involved for developmentally delayed. Often scientifically based material doesn't apply to the developmentally delayed because there is so little out there. It means professional staff have to put on their "thinking caps" to come up with interventions.

Subject: Re: Problem Solving/Response to Intervention (PS/RtI)To: sList Date: Friday, May 27, 2011, 1:23 AM

Does anyone care about RtI?

To: sList Sent: Tue, May 24, 2011 6:10:16 PMSubject: Problem Solving/Response to Intervention (PS/RtI)

Do any of the schools follow a state mandate for RtI?

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