Guest guest Posted September 16, 2011 Report Share Posted September 16, 2011 Holy crap, I never thought of it with pets before!!! http://www.veterinarypartner.com/Content.plx?P=A & C=222 & A=1275 & S=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2011 Report Share Posted September 16, 2011 That British study they mentioned in the article you found is one I think I've read before, in which the children of parents who were suspected of Munchausen's by Proxy were relocated to specially-modified hospital rooms that were totally but unobtrusively wired for video from multiple angles, and wired for sound, and were under careful observation 24/7... and sure enough the mothers (I think in every case it was the mother who was the perp) actually harmed her own little child (sometimes severely) when she thought she was alone and unobserved. What astonished the British researchers conducting this study was how widespread this horrible disorder is, how many perps they found, and they found perps in every hospital they investigated. So, somehow it doesn't surprise me that this MbP behavior might show up in the treatment of pets as well. It saddens me, but, I'm not surprised. -Annie > > Holy crap, I never thought of it with pets before!!! > > http://www.veterinarypartner.com/Content.plx?P=A & C=222 & A=1275 & S=1 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2011 Report Share Posted September 17, 2011 I can relate to this. My nada was diagnosed with MbP this year as she has been poisoning us, giving us intentional allergic reactions, putting soap on our toothbrushes, putting chemicals in our laundry and otherwise harming us for as long as I can remember. I was on 7 allergy and asthma meds when I left for college, now I'm on one OTC allergy med. She starved me throughout high school and my little brother when he was a young child, fattened up my sister, tried to kill my diabetic brother a couple times, once mixed cashews in the peanuts that he used as a recovery food (he is deathly allergic to tree nuts), and put fragrances that gave my dad and I asthma attacks in our sheets and put ammonia in the sheets my brother. We didn't figure out how she treated our beloved pets until much later. We got poodles with Dad wouldn't let nada have any more babies (there are 4 of us, all about 2 years apart, which is fascinating as that's about when kids start to separate and establish their sense of self) and our miniature poodle puppy mysteriously fell out of a stroller when she was still very young. Nada took her to the vet, but it was too late for them to pop her shoulder back into place and the poor baby walked with a limp her entire life. When that dog was about 2 years old (!!!) we got a standard poodle, and this one was a rescue who Nada (ironically) insisted had been abused. The poor thing was anxious all the time, afraid of everyone and threw up a lot. Nada insisted the dog had a " sensitive stomach " and would try all sorts of new foods and medicines for it. When Nada was forcibly removed from the house, we discovered that the poor dog threw up when she was starving and that Nada had been starving her! When we dropped the dogs off for her to groom them and spend time with them for the weekend (She's told my brother and myself she likes the dogs better than us), the standard poodle was missing a tooth and was very jittery and had a hard time eating. We have our suspicious that she hit the dog. I also have my suspicious that she killed my sister's hamster and said my hamster killed it because " I didn't feed it enough " but I can't prove anything. That was such a traumatic day. Basically, what she did to me, my siblings, my dad and our pets is so sick and wrong. There is a special place in hell waiting for the people who intentionally hurt the ones who depend on them for protection and nurturing. The court psychiatrist said she had never seen a case so bad in her life, and it sickens me to know that there are more out there like her. > > > > Holy crap, I never thought of it with pets before!!! > > > > http://www.veterinarypartner.com/Content.plx?P=A & C=222 & A=1275 & S=1 > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2011 Report Share Posted September 18, 2011 OMG, I'm so sorry Clefairy!!!! Thank god she is not there anymore. I'm afraid i would become violent if someone did that too my pets (or kids) but I don't have kids so I relate better to the pets. On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 10:48 PM, clefairy_looking_for_moonstone < clefairy_looking_for_moonstone@...> wrote: > ** > > > I can relate to this. > > My nada was diagnosed with MbP this year as she has been poisoning us, > giving us intentional allergic reactions, putting soap on our toothbrushes, > putting chemicals in our laundry and otherwise harming us for as long as I > can remember. I was on 7 allergy and asthma meds when I left for college, > now I'm on one OTC allergy med. > She starved me throughout high school and my little brother when he was a > young child, fattened up my sister, tried to kill my diabetic brother a > couple times, once mixed cashews in the peanuts that he used as a recovery > food (he is deathly allergic to tree nuts), and put fragrances that gave my > dad and I asthma attacks in our sheets and put ammonia in the sheets my > brother. > > We didn't figure out how she treated our beloved pets until much later. > > We got poodles with Dad wouldn't let nada have any more babies (there are 4 > of us, all about 2 years apart, which is fascinating as that's about when > kids start to separate and establish their sense of self) and our miniature > poodle puppy mysteriously fell out of a stroller when she was still very > young. Nada took her to the vet, but it was too late for them to pop her > shoulder back into place and the poor baby walked with a limp her entire > life. > When that dog was about 2 years old (!!!) we got a standard poodle, and > this one was a rescue who Nada (ironically) insisted had been abused. The > poor thing was anxious all the time, afraid of everyone and threw up a lot. > Nada insisted the dog had a " sensitive stomach " and would try all sorts of > new foods and medicines for it. > When Nada was forcibly removed from the house, we discovered that the poor > dog threw up when she was starving and that Nada had been starving her! When > we dropped the dogs off for her to groom them and spend time with them for > the weekend (She's told my brother and myself she likes the dogs better than > us), the standard poodle was missing a tooth and was very jittery and had a > hard time eating. We have our suspicious that she hit the dog. > > I also have my suspicious that she killed my sister's hamster and said my > hamster killed it because " I didn't feed it enough " but I can't prove > anything. That was such a traumatic day. > > Basically, what she did to me, my siblings, my dad and our pets is so sick > and wrong. There is a special place in hell waiting for the people who > intentionally hurt the ones who depend on them for protection and nurturing. > The court psychiatrist said she had never seen a case so bad in her life, > and it sickens me to know that there are more out there like her. > > > > > > > > > Holy crap, I never thought of it with pets before!!! > > > > > > http://www.veterinarypartner.com/Content.plx?P=A & C=222 & A=1275 & S=1 > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2011 Report Share Posted September 19, 2011 Sadly, I see this quite often (I'm a vet tech). It's heart rending. ________________________________ To: wtoadultchildren1 <WTOAdultChildren1 > Sent: Fri, September 16, 2011 12:18:21 PM Subject: Munchausen's and pets Holy crap, I never thought of it with pets before!!! http://www.veterinarypartner.com/Content.plx?P=A & C=222 & A=1275 & S=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 OMG! What an awful awful story! Good grief, I'm glad you're out of that house. Wow, she needs some serious help! So sorry you had to go through all that. She tried to poison you?! Is she still trying? DO NOT leave any food or drink unattended near her and don't eat anything she hands you LOL. But, I'm sure you know that all ready. Scaaaary. Mia On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 12:48 AM, clefairy_looking_for_moonstone < clefairy_looking_for_moonstone@...> wrote: > > > I can relate to this. > > My nada was diagnosed with MbP this year as she has been poisoning us, > giving us intentional allergic reactions, putting soap on our toothbrushes, > putting chemicals in our laundry and otherwise harming us for as long as I > can remember. I was on 7 allergy and asthma meds when I left for college, > now I'm on one OTC allergy med. > She starved me throughout high school and my little brother when he was a > young child, fattened up my sister, tried to kill my diabetic brother a > couple times, once mixed cashews in the peanuts that he used as a recovery > food (he is deathly allergic to tree nuts), and put fragrances that gave my > dad and I asthma attacks in our sheets and put ammonia in the sheets my > brother. > > We didn't figure out how she treated our beloved pets until much later. > > We got poodles with Dad wouldn't let nada have any more babies (there are 4 > of us, all about 2 years apart, which is fascinating as that's about when > kids start to separate and establish their sense of self) and our miniature > poodle puppy mysteriously fell out of a stroller when she was still very > young. Nada took her to the vet, but it was too late for them to pop her > shoulder back into place and the poor baby walked with a limp her entire > life. > When that dog was about 2 years old (!!!) we got a standard poodle, and > this one was a rescue who Nada (ironically) insisted had been abused. The > poor thing was anxious all the time, afraid of everyone and threw up a lot. > Nada insisted the dog had a " sensitive stomach " and would try all sorts of > new foods and medicines for it. > When Nada was forcibly removed from the house, we discovered that the poor > dog threw up when she was starving and that Nada had been starving her! When > we dropped the dogs off for her to groom them and spend time with them for > the weekend (She's told my brother and myself she likes the dogs better than > us), the standard poodle was missing a tooth and was very jittery and had a > hard time eating. We have our suspicious that she hit the dog. > > I also have my suspicious that she killed my sister's hamster and said my > hamster killed it because " I didn't feed it enough " but I can't prove > anything. That was such a traumatic day. > > Basically, what she did to me, my siblings, my dad and our pets is so sick > and wrong. There is a special place in hell waiting for the people who > intentionally hurt the ones who depend on them for protection and nurturing. > The court psychiatrist said she had never seen a case so bad in her life, > and it sickens me to know that there are more out there like her. > > > > > > > > > Holy crap, I never thought of it with pets before!!! > > > > > > http://www.veterinarypartner.com/Content.plx?P=A & C=222 & A=1275 & S=1 > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2011 Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 I'm NC w/ Nada now, but she legitimately tried to kill my all-bad brother on several occasions. She kept trying to poison me after I left home - sending me care packages of muffins laced with tree nuts or laytex bandaids (both things I'm very allergic to) or just snacks that mysteriously made me or anyone I shared them with sick. Thanks for the concern, Mia. I'm so glad to be rid of her. > > > > > > > > Holy crap, I never thought of it with pets before!!! > > > > > > > > http://www.veterinarypartner.com/Content.plx?P=A & C=222 & A=1275 & S=1 > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2011 Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 All I can say is " Holy Freaking Cow! " I think that that is an example of the true Witch nada, the " Medean Mother " who literally attempts to kill (and sometimes succeeds in killing) her own children, or attempts to figuratively " kill " or cripple her children emotionally by destroying her child's self-esteem. That is psychopathic behavior, I'm pretty sure. I'm so sorry you and your sibs had to endure such treatment and weren't rescued from her very early in life. Its literally a miracle that you survived. -Annie > > > > > > > > > > Holy crap, I never thought of it with pets before!!! > > > > > > > > > > http://www.veterinarypartner.com/Content.plx?P=A & C=222 & A=1275 & S=1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2011 Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 Oh wow, I'm GLAD you are NC with her now. What a horrible situation to be in. I'm also NC with my nada. And also glad to be rid of her. Mia On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 12:04 PM, clefairy_looking_for_moonstone < clefairy_looking_for_moonstone@...> wrote: > > > I'm NC w/ Nada now, but she legitimately tried to kill my all-bad brother > on several occasions. > She kept trying to poison me after I left home - sending me care packages > of muffins laced with tree nuts or laytex bandaids (both things I'm very > allergic to) or just snacks that mysteriously made me or anyone I shared > them with sick. > > Thanks for the concern, Mia. I'm so glad to be rid of her. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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