is there a compile on arsenic sources

[Guest guest]

Hello, the recent study on high amounts of arsenic in rice came just as my kids

hair tests came back as in the 95-98% for arsenic. While they don't eat rice,

i'm looking for the other possible sources of contamination. I looked in the

archives and didn't see a compile on common arsenic sources.

My daughter (4) is NT and my son (5) is ASD. My son is on SCD and we try to

follow Feingold so he only eats meat protein (a lot of chicken), fruits,

veggies, some nuts, and a few beans. My daughter is GF and eats a lot of

fruit, veggies, some rice and meat protein.

I'm testing the soil at our house, especially around the play structure. As i

understand it, lumber treated before 2003 contained arsenic.

Our house is 100 years old and in seattle. There was a smelter about 45 miles

south of our home that closed about 20 years ago.

any ideas on where to look for aresenic around our home?

thanks, mardi

[Guest guest]

Mardi,

Hello neighbor,

I'm about 10 miles (right across the bay) from where the smelter was (

Although I do not have an " official " report, I did quite a bit of research on

toxic metals about 5 years ago as I was trying to understand my sons

issues...Mercury is his #1 toxic metal followed closely by Arsenic then Lead (

's DD Hair Elements the last few years have had both Mercury & Arsenic in

the yellow....2009 Arsenic was @ .097, 2010 was @ .077, 2011 was @ .081...all in

the yellow.

The good news for us is @ least he's excreting it now & he's finally out of the

7 year battle of mineral derrangement from the toxic metals w/the BioMedical

interventions that we've done....we're not out of the woods yet, but @ least

starting to see the light.

Below is some of my Notes that I took while researching Toxic Metals Sources &

Symptoms. Here's the Arsenic Notes (I have Notes on many of the other toxic

metals as well as I followed the symptoms when I was chelating...I got to where

I could peg pretty well what the UTI was going to look like just based on

symptoms/behaviors....

Hope This Helps:

Arsenic:

Sources: Drinking water, insecticide residues on fruits & vegetables, auto

exhaust and industrial pollution, treated lumber.

Symptoms: Headaches, drowsiness, confusion, weakness, or skin problems.

Arsenic Notes (copied from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenic )

• Other naturally occurring pathways of exposure include volcanic ash,

weathering of arsenic-containing minerals and ores, and dissolved in

groundwater.

• The arsenic is recovered mainly as a side product from the purification of

copper. Arsenic is part of the smelter dust from copper, gold, and lead

smelters.

• The toxicity of arsenic to insects, bacteria and fungi led to its use as a

wood preservative

• Agricultural insecticides, termination and poisons. For example, lead hydrogen

arsenate was a common insecticide on fruit trees.

• Arsenic is still added to animal food, in particular in the U.S. as a method

of disease prevention[35][36] and growth stimulation. One example is roxarsone,

which is used as a broiler starter by about 70% of the broiler growers since

1995.[37] The Poison-Free Poultry Act of 2009 proposes to ban the use of

roxarsone in industrial swine and poultry production.

• Medical use:

Arsphenamine as well as neosalvarsan was indicated for syphilis and

trypanosomiasis.

Treatment of cancer. The US Food and Drug Administration in 2000 approved this

compound for the treatment of patients with acute promyelocytic leukemia that is

resistant to ATRA.[39] It was also used as Fowler's solution in psoriasis.[40]

Recently new research has been done in locating tumours using arsenic-74 (a

positron emitter). The advantages of using this isotope instead of the

previously used iodine-124 is that the signal in the PET scan is clearer as the

body tends to transport iodine to the thyroid gland producing a lot of

noise.[41]

• The main use of metallic arsenic is for alloying with copper and especially

lead. Lead components in car batteries

• Gallium arsenide is an important semiconductor material, used in integrated

circuits.

• Arsenic is added in small quantities to alpha-brass to make it dezincification

resistant. This grade of brass is used to make plumbing fittings or other items

that are in constant contact with water.

• Until recently arsenic was used in optical glass. Modern glass manufacturers,

under pressure from environmentalists, have removed it, along with lead.

Many water supplies close to mines are contaminated by these poisons. Arsenic

disrupts ATP production through several mechanisms. At the level of the citric

acid cycle, arsenic inhibits lipoic acid, which is a cofactor for pyruvate

dehydrogenase; and by competing with phosphate it uncouples oxidative

phosphorylation, thus inhibiting energy-linked reduction of NAD+, mitochondrial

respiration and ATP synthesis.

Occupational exposure and arsenic poisoning may occur in persons working in

industries involving the use of inorganic arsenic and its compounds, such as

wood preservation, glass production, nonferrous metal alloys, and electronic

semiconductor manufacturing. Inorganic arsenic is also found in coke oven

emissions associated with the smelter industry.

The high affinity of arsenic(III) oxides for thiols is usually assigned as the

cause of the high toxicity. Thiols, in the form of cysteine residues, are

situated at the active sites of many important enzymes.

Copied From Doctor's Data Hair Test Report:

Arsenic High

In general, hair provides a rough estimate of exposure to Arsenic (As) absorbed

from food and water. However, hair can be contaminated externally with As from

air, water, dust, shampoos and soap. Inorganic As, and some organic As

compounds, can be associated with toxicity. Inorganic As accumulates in hair,

nails, skin, thyroid gland, bone and the gastrointestinal tract.

Organic As, such as that derived from shellfish, is rapidly excreted in the

urine.

As can cause malaise, muscle weakness, vomiting, diarrhea, dermatitis, and skin

cancer.

Long-term exposure may affect the peripheral nervous, cardiovascular and

hematopoietic systems. As is a major biological antagonist to selenium.

Common sources of As are insecticides (calcium and lead arsenate), drinking

water, smog, shellfish (arsenobetaine), and industrial exposure, particularly in

the manufacture of electronic

components (gallium arsenide).

As burden can be confirmed by urine elements analysis. Comparison of urine As

levels pre and post provocation (DMPS, DMSA, D-penicillamine) permit

differentiation between recent

uptake and body stores.

& #63193; & #61472;1999-2011 Doctor's Data, Inc.

>

> Hello, the recent study on high amounts of arsenic in rice came just as my

kids hair tests came back as in the 95-98% for arsenic. While they don't eat

rice, i'm looking for the other possible sources of contamination. I looked in

the archives and didn't see a compile on common arsenic sources.

>

> My daughter (4) is NT and my son (5) is ASD. My son is on SCD and we try to

follow Feingold so he only eats meat protein (a lot of chicken), fruits,

veggies, some nuts, and a few beans. My daughter is GF and eats a lot of

fruit, veggies, some rice and meat protein.

>

> I'm testing the soil at our house, especially around the play structure. As

i understand it, lumber treated before 2003 contained arsenic.

>

> Our house is 100 years old and in seattle. There was a smelter about 45 miles

south of our home that closed about 20 years ago.

>

> any ideas on where to look for aresenic around our home?

>

> thanks, mardi

>

[Guest guest]

Awesome post, Rita! -Tammy To: mb12valtrex Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2011 8:20 PM Subject: Re: is

there a compile on arsenic sources

Mardi,

Hello neighbor,

I'm about 10 miles (right across the bay) from where the smelter was (

Although I do not have an "official" report, I did quite a bit of research on toxic metals about 5 years ago as I was trying to understand my sons issues...Mercury is his #1 toxic metal followed closely by Arsenic then Lead ( 's DD Hair Elements the last few years have had both Mercury & Arsenic in the yellow....2009 Arsenic was @ .097, 2010 was @ .077, 2011 was @ .081...all in the yellow.

The good news for us is @ least he's excreting it now & he's finally out of the 7 year battle of mineral derrangement from the toxic metals w/the BioMedical interventions that we've done....we're not out of the woods yet, but @ least starting to see the light.

Below is some of my Notes that I took while researching Toxic Metals Sources & Symptoms. Here's the Arsenic Notes (I have Notes on many of the other toxic metals as well as I followed the symptoms when I was chelating...I got to where I could peg pretty well what the UTI was going to look like just based on symptoms/behaviors....

Hope This Helps:

Arsenic:

Sources: Drinking water, insecticide residues on fruits & vegetables, auto exhaust and industrial pollution, treated lumber.

Symptoms: Headaches, drowsiness, confusion, weakness, or skin problems.

Arsenic Notes (copied from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenic )

• Other naturally occurring pathways of exposure include volcanic ash, weathering of arsenic-containing minerals and ores, and dissolved in groundwater.

• The arsenic is recovered mainly as a side product from the purification of copper. Arsenic is part of the smelter dust from copper, gold, and lead smelters.

• The toxicity of arsenic to insects, bacteria and fungi led to its use as a wood preservative

• Agricultural insecticides, termination and poisons. For example, lead hydrogen arsenate was a common insecticide on fruit trees.

• Arsenic is still added to animal food, in particular in the U.S. as a method of disease prevention[35][36] and growth stimulation. One example is roxarsone, which is used as a broiler starter by about 70% of the broiler growers since 1995.[37] The Poison-Free Poultry Act of 2009 proposes to ban the use of roxarsone in industrial swine and poultry production.

• Medical use:

Arsphenamine as well as neosalvarsan was indicated for syphilis and trypanosomiasis.

Treatment of cancer. The US Food and Drug Administration in 2000 approved this compound for the treatment of patients with acute promyelocytic leukemia that is resistant to ATRA.[39] It was also used as Fowler's solution in psoriasis.[40] Recently new research has been done in locating tumours using arsenic-74 (a positron emitter). The advantages of using this isotope instead of the previously used iodine-124 is that the signal in the PET scan is clearer as the body tends to transport iodine to the thyroid gland producing a lot of noise.[41]

• The main use of metallic arsenic is for alloying with copper and especially lead. Lead components in car batteries

• Gallium arsenide is an important semiconductor material, used in integrated circuits.

• Arsenic is added in small quantities to alpha-brass to make it dezincification resistant. This grade of brass is used to make plumbing fittings or other items that are in constant contact with water.

• Until recently arsenic was used in optical glass. Modern glass manufacturers, under pressure from environmentalists, have removed it, along with lead.

Many water supplies close to mines are contaminated by these poisons. Arsenic disrupts ATP production through several mechanisms. At the level of the citric acid cycle, arsenic inhibits lipoic acid, which is a cofactor for pyruvate dehydrogenase; and by competing with phosphate it uncouples oxidative phosphorylation, thus inhibiting energy-linked reduction of NAD+, mitochondrial respiration and ATP synthesis.

Occupational exposure and arsenic poisoning may occur in persons working in industries involving the use of inorganic arsenic and its compounds, such as wood preservation, glass production, nonferrous metal alloys, and electronic semiconductor manufacturing. Inorganic arsenic is also found in coke oven emissions associated with the smelter industry.

The high affinity of arsenic(III) oxides for thiols is usually assigned as the cause of the high toxicity. Thiols, in the form of cysteine residues, are situated at the active sites of many important enzymes.

Copied From Doctor's Data Hair Test Report:

Arsenic High

In general, hair provides a rough estimate of exposure to Arsenic (As) absorbed from food and water. However, hair can be contaminated externally with As from air, water, dust, shampoos and soap. Inorganic As, and some organic As compounds, can be associated with toxicity. Inorganic As accumulates in hair, nails, skin, thyroid gland, bone and the gastrointestinal tract.

Organic As, such as that derived from shellfish, is rapidly excreted in the urine.

As can cause malaise, muscle weakness, vomiting, diarrhea, dermatitis, and skin cancer.

Long-term exposure may affect the peripheral nervous, cardiovascular and hematopoietic systems. As is a major biological antagonist to selenium.

Common sources of As are insecticides (calcium and lead arsenate), drinking water, smog, shellfish (arsenobetaine), and industrial exposure, particularly in the manufacture of electronic

components (gallium arsenide).

As burden can be confirmed by urine elements analysis. Comparison of urine As levels pre and post provocation (DMPS, DMSA, D-penicillamine) permit differentiation between recent

uptake and body stores.

& #63193; & #61472;1999-2011 Doctor's Data, Inc.

>

> Hello, the recent study on high amounts of arsenic in rice came just as my kids hair tests came back as in the 95-98% for arsenic. While they don't eat rice, i'm looking for the other possible sources of contamination. I looked in the archives and didn't see a compile on common arsenic sources.

>

> My daughter (4) is NT and my son (5) is ASD. My son is on SCD and we try to follow Feingold so he only eats meat protein (a lot of chicken), fruits, veggies, some nuts, and a few beans. My daughter is GF and eats a lot of fruit, veggies, some rice and meat protein.

>

> I'm testing the soil at our house, especially around the play structure. As i understand it, lumber treated before 2003 contained arsenic.

>

> Our house is 100 years old and in seattle. There was a smelter about 45 miles south of our home that closed about 20 years ago.

>

> any ideas on where to look for aresenic around our home?

>

> thanks, mardi

>

[Guest guest]

Non-organic chicken is a common source of arsenic, as it apple juice.

>

> Hello, the recent study on high amounts of arsenic in rice came just as my

kids hair tests came back as in the 95-98% for arsenic. While they don't eat

rice, i'm looking for the other possible sources of contamination. I looked in

the archives and didn't see a compile on common arsenic sources.

>

> My daughter (4) is NT and my son (5) is ASD. My son is on SCD and we try to

follow Feingold so he only eats meat protein (a lot of chicken), fruits,

veggies, some nuts, and a few beans. My daughter is GF and eats a lot of

fruit, veggies, some rice and meat protein.

>

> I'm testing the soil at our house, especially around the play structure. As

i understand it, lumber treated before 2003 contained arsenic.

>

> Our house is 100 years old and in seattle. There was a smelter about 45 miles

south of our home that closed about 20 years ago.

>

> any ideas on where to look for aresenic around our home?

>

> thanks, mardi

>

[Guest guest]

I also learned somewhere (don't know if it is a fact) that chickens are fed

arsenic so they eat and drink more and fatten faster - organic meat is the way

to go if you can afford it.

- Ellie

[Guest guest]

well...hate to bring bad news ..but i was told by a reputable person...who actually went thru the troubel of having organic chicken tested....some organics also have arsenic in their chicken....i dont know if all do but there are some that were tested with the crap in it.

best way is to find the local farmer that raises chicken...and talk to the farmer themselves...i find mass production organic foods are as deceptive as the rest of them..

you know fat chicken equals money....I have also heard there are short cuts around organic guidlines...and not all organic farmers play fair.

yes the world sucks.

channa

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Friday, December 9, 2011 6:09 PMSubject: Re: is there a compile on arsenic sources

I also learned somewhere (don't know if it is a fact) that chickens are fed arsenic so they eat and drink more and fatten faster - organic meat is the way to go if you can afford it. - Ellie

[Guest guest]

Chicken feed is laced with arsenic. I also learned somewhere (don't know if it is a fact) that chickens are fed arsenic so they eat and drink more and fatten faster - organic meat is the way to go if you can afford it. - Ellie

[Guest guest]

I'm not disputing that organic chicken may have arsenic in it as well,but wondering the source of it. We are saying their feed is laced with it,and in some cases yes due to someone personally adding it in there...

but all kinds of contaminants get into the soil of the food we grow andare coming from the polluted air and water. So the food could be contaminatedbefore it even makes it to the processor/distributor of the food.

I am not sure there is a " pure " thing to consume on this planet, even if you knowthe guy who grew the feed and the guy who grew the chicken.Just like with the apple juice... we don't know if the source of the apples is the contaminator

or the people processing it, or the water added, or if some jackass is purposefullyadding arsenic and lead to each bottle. Heck, maybe it leaches from the plastic/glass/bpa-linedfoil containers.I'm just saying we can't get too nutty about the purity of stuff or we will do just that - go crazy.

 

well...hate to bring bad news ..but i was told by a reputable person...who actually went thru the troubel of having organic chicken tested....some organics also have arsenic in their chicken....i dont know if all do but there are some that were tested with the crap in it.

best way is to find the local farmer that raises chicken...and talk to the farmer themselves...i find mass production organic foods are as deceptive as the rest of them..

you know fat chicken equals money....I have also heard there are short cuts around organic guidlines...and not all organic farmers play fair. 

 yes the world sucks.

channa

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Friday, December 9, 2011 6:09 PM

Subject: Re: is there a compile on arsenic sources

 

I also learned somewhere (don't know if it is a fact) that chickens are fed arsenic so they eat and drink more and fatten faster - organic meat is the way to go if you can afford it. - Ellie

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go crazy? go crazy!!!!!!!!

lol...yah that might be to late for me....I just got some bad news ..my chicken lady who I thought was just pasture raising her chicken feeds them a vegan feed made of soy and corn.

i am lookin into something online wild game meat or some crap...I am definitly goin more then usual nuts about all this...Im thinkin I may just feed my son fish .......but like you said it is a toxic planet the question is how much can we keep it down to a minimun? i worry bout the GMO soy and corn..

I havent the answer at this point....I know there is toxins in the sea in the water ect..

my son has started waking at night again...we got a lot of stress in this house right now so im sure most toxic thing of all STRESS....is not helpin....

well we just do the best we can do....life is a temporary problem after all.

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 2:00 PMSubject: Re: Re: is there a compile on arsenic sources

I'm not disputing that organic chicken may have arsenic in it as well,but wondering the source of it. We are saying their feed is laced with it,and in some cases yes due to someone personally adding it in there...but all kinds of contaminants get into the soil of the food we grow andare coming from the polluted air and water. So the food could be contaminatedbefore it even makes it to the processor/distributor of the food.I am not sure there is a "pure" thing to consume on this planet, even if you knowthe guy who grew the feed and the guy who grew the chicken.Just like with the apple juice... we don't know if the source of the apples is the contaminatoror the people processing it, or the water added, or if some jackass is purposefullyadding arsenic and lead to each bottle. Heck, maybe it leaches from the plastic/glass/bpa-linedfoil containers.I'm just saying we can't get too nutty about the

purity of stuff or we will do just that - go crazy.

well...hate to bring bad news ..but i was told by a reputable person...who actually went thru the troubel of having organic chicken tested....some organics also have arsenic in their chicken....i dont know if all do but there are some that were tested with the crap in it.

best way is to find the local farmer that raises chicken...and talk to the farmer themselves...i find mass production organic foods are as deceptive as the rest of them..

you know fat chicken equals money....I have also heard there are short cuts around organic guidlines...and not all organic farmers play fair.

yes the world sucks.

channa

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Friday, December 9, 2011 6:09 PM

Subject: Re: is there a compile on arsenic sources

I also learned somewhere (don't know if it is a fact) that chickens are fed arsenic so they eat and drink more and fatten faster - organic meat is the way to go if you can afford it. - Ellie

-- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Click to find info about Vitamins and Minerals:http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150543521682565--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Click to find links to info about the Low Oxalate Diet :http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150543495292565------Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

[Guest guest]

Do you do beef? I have a grain free beef source, not organic b/c organic beef is hard to come by, but no abx, etc

 

go crazy? go crazy!!!!!!!!

lol...yah that might be to late for me....I just got some bad news ..my chicken lady who I thought was just pasture raising her chicken feeds them a vegan feed made of soy and corn.

i am lookin into something online wild game meat or some crap...I am definitly goin more then usual nuts about all this...Im thinkin I may just feed my son fish .......but like you said it is a toxic planet the question is how much can we keep it down to a minimun? i worry bout the GMO soy and corn..

I havent the answer at this point....I know there is toxins in the sea in the water ect..

my son has started waking at night again...we got a lot of stress in this house right now so im sure most toxic thing of all STRESS....is not helpin....

well we just do the best we can do....life is a temporary problem after all.

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 2:00 PM

Subject: Re: Re: is there a compile on arsenic sources

 

I'm not disputing that organic chicken may have arsenic in it as well,but wondering the source of it. We are saying their feed is laced with it,and in some cases yes due to someone personally adding it in there...

but all kinds of contaminants get into the soil of the food we grow andare coming from the polluted air and water. So the food could be contaminatedbefore it even makes it to the processor/distributor of the food.

I am not sure there is a " pure " thing to consume on this planet, even if you knowthe guy who grew the feed and the guy who grew the chicken.Just like with the apple juice... we don't know if the source of the apples is the contaminator

or the people processing it, or the water added, or if some jackass is purposefullyadding arsenic and lead to each bottle. Heck, maybe it leaches from the plastic/glass/bpa-linedfoil containers.I'm just saying we can't get too nutty about the

purity of stuff or we will do just that - go crazy.

 

well...hate to bring bad news ..but i was told by a reputable person...who actually went thru the troubel of having organic chicken tested....some organics also have arsenic in their chicken....i dont know if all do but there are some that were tested with the crap in it.

best way is to find the local farmer that raises chicken...and talk to the farmer themselves...i find mass production organic foods are as deceptive as the rest of them..

you know fat chicken equals money....I have also heard there are short cuts around organic guidlines...and not all organic farmers play fair. 

 yes the world sucks.

channa

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Friday, December 9, 2011 6:09 PM

Subject: Re: is there a compile on arsenic sources

 

I also learned somewhere (don't know if it is a fact) that chickens are fed arsenic so they eat and drink more and fatten faster - organic meat is the way to go if you can afford it. - Ellie

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Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

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------Toni------Mind like a steel trap...Rusty and illegal in 37 states.

[Guest guest]

my son is allergic to beef their is ton of grassfed beef in the area I live....would be perfect..

it just sucks...im so over all of it...I need to find my happy place again...cant find my happy place...

happy place where are thou?

dang it toni I cant find my happy place???

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 9:07 PMSubject: Re: Re: is there a compile on arsenic sources

Do you do beef? I have a grain free beef source, not organic b/c organic beef is hard to come by, but no abx, etc

go crazy? go crazy!!!!!!!!

lol...yah that might be to late for me....I just got some bad news ..my chicken lady who I thought was just pasture raising her chicken feeds them a vegan feed made of soy and corn.

i am lookin into something online wild game meat or some crap...I am definitly goin more then usual nuts about all this...Im thinkin I may just feed my son fish .......but like you said it is a toxic planet the question is how much can we keep it down to a minimun? i worry bout the GMO soy and corn..

I havent the answer at this point....I know there is toxins in the sea in the water ect..

my son has started waking at night again...we got a lot of stress in this house right now so im sure most toxic thing of all STRESS....is not helpin....

well we just do the best we can do....life is a temporary problem after all.

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 2:00 PMSubject: Re: Re: is there a compile on arsenic sources

I'm not disputing that organic chicken may have arsenic in it as well,but wondering the source of it. We are saying their feed is laced with it,and in some cases yes due to someone personally adding it in there...but all kinds of contaminants get into the soil of the food we grow andare coming from the polluted air and water. So the food could be contaminatedbefore it even makes it to the processor/distributor of the food.I am not sure there is a "pure" thing to consume on this planet, even if you knowthe guy who grew the feed and the guy who grew the chicken.Just like with the apple juice... we don't know if the source of the apples is the contaminatoror the people processing it, or the water added, or if some jackass is purposefullyadding arsenic and lead to each bottle. Heck, maybe it leaches from the plastic/glass/bpa-linedfoil containers.I'm just saying we can't

get too nutty about the purity of stuff or we will do just that - go crazy.

well...hate to bring bad news ..but i was told by a reputable person...who actually went thru the troubel of having organic chicken tested....some organics also have arsenic in their chicken....i dont know if all do but there are some that were tested with the crap in it.

best way is to find the local farmer that raises chicken...and talk to the farmer themselves...i find mass production organic foods are as deceptive as the rest of them..

you know fat chicken equals money....I have also heard there are short cuts around organic guidlines...and not all organic farmers play fair.

yes the world sucks.

channa

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Friday, December 9, 2011 6:09 PM Subject: Re: is there a compile on arsenic sources

I also learned somewhere (don't know if it is a fact) that chickens are fed arsenic so they eat and drink more and fatten faster - organic meat is the way to go if you can afford it. - Ellie

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[Guest guest]

Check out Applegate Organics meats. I have been trying to find local farmed organic meat too (very difficult)....I spoke with one local farmer who said his pork and beef were grassfed, no pesticides sprayed but the feed was not organic. Applegate Organics advertises that they are organic and use organic feed for the animals...this should mean no pesticides (ie no arsenic) and no GMO (although their site doesn't specifically address these two issues)....I can find their products at our local Whole Foods but they are expensive To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 9:16 PM Subject: Re: Re: is there a compile on arsenic sources

my son is allergic to beef their is ton of grassfed beef in the area I live....would be perfect..

it just sucks...im so over all of it...I need to find my happy place again...cant find my happy place...

happy place where are thou?

dang it toni I cant find my happy place???

To: mb12valtrex Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 9:07 PMSubject: Re: Re: is there a compile on arsenic sources

Do you do beef? I have a grain free beef source, not organic b/c organic beef is hard to come by, but no abx, etc

go crazy? go crazy!!!!!!!!

lol...yah that might be to late for me....I just got some bad news ..my chicken lady who I thought was just pasture raising her chicken feeds them a vegan feed made of soy and corn.

i am lookin into something online wild game meat or some crap...I am definitly goin more then usual nuts about all this...Im thinkin I may just feed my son fish .......but like you said it is a toxic planet the question is how much can we keep it down to a minimun? i worry bout the GMO soy and corn..

I havent the answer at this point....I know there is toxins in the sea in the water ect..

my son has started waking at night again...we got a lot of stress in this house right now so im sure most toxic thing of all STRESS....is not helpin....

well we just do the best we can do....life is a temporary problem after all.

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thanks megan i will look into this...my son not doin good right now..im not doin good...it is so fustrating because I had it really such a great thing goin...with his diet supps...

now i cant think straight and it is hard for me to get back on track...

I have another home interrogation on monday..im really upset worried bout that...I am feelin like a criminal doin biomed and having my son on a specail diet...

part of me is unable to focuse on what I was doin...I am starting to think they are right and i am a crazy mom with monchauser symdrome? that is what they are implying...

i guess thats why i like so much talkin to this group because that means if im crazy ..you guys are just a crazy as me!

im really scared..for my son..

the worker was talkin about giving my son all his shots..

i dont know what is gonna happen...if you guys can send a prayer out for me and my son on monday..pray that they will close this case against me soon..and not make my son get any shots... i would be so grateful...oh i just comadered this thread to talk about my dirty laundry..sorryguys!

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Channa ,praying for you now may angles surround you and your son and protect you always.Let your email find you with BlackBerry® from VodafoneSender: mb12valtrex Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 19:05:26 -0800 (PST)To: mb12valtrex <mb12valtrex >ReplyTo: mb12valtrex Subject: Re: Re: is there a compile on arsenic sources thanks megan i will look into this...my son not doin good right now..im not doin good...it is so fustrating because I had it really such a great thing goin...with his diet supps...now i cant think straight and it is hard for me to get back on track...I have another home interrogation on monday..im really upset worried bout that...I am feelin like a criminal doin biomed and having my son on a specail diet...part of me is unable to focuse on what I was doin...I am starting to think they are right and i am a crazy mom with monchauser symdrome? that is what they are implying...i guess thats why i like so much talkin to this group because that means if im crazy ..you guys are just a crazy as me!im really scared..for my son..the worker was talkin about giving my son all his shots..i dont know what is gonna happen...if you guys can send a prayer out for me and my son on monday..pray that they will close this case against me soon..and not make my son get any shots... i would be so grateful...oh i just comadered this thread to talk about my dirty laundry..sorryguys!To: "mb12valtrex " <mb12valtrex > Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 9:22 PMSubject: Re: Re: is there a compile on arsenic sources Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use.

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Can you get religious exemption from more shots? Where are you? I know NY and NJ are becoming harder, and WV and MS are impossible but people in other places can do it rather easily.In Florida, it's just a visit to the health dept.

I know, they do make one feel crazy... Have you done the tests (even the off the wall ones) so that you have printable lab reports?

 

thanks megan i will look into this...my son not doin good right now..im not doin good...it is so fustrating because I had it really such a great thing goin...with his diet supps...

now i cant think straight and it is hard for me to get back on track...

I have another home interrogation on monday..im really upset worried bout that...I am feelin like a criminal doin biomed and having my son on a specail diet...

part of me is unable to focuse on what I was doin...I am starting to think they are right and i am a crazy mom with monchauser symdrome? that is what they are implying...

i guess thats why i like so much talkin to this group because that means if im crazy ..you guys are just a crazy as me!

im really scared..for my son..

the worker was talkin about  giving my son all his shots..

i dont know what is gonna happen...if you guys can send a prayer out for me and my son on monday..pray that they will close this case against me soon..and not make my son get any shots... i would be so grateful...oh i just comadered this thread to talk about my dirty laundry..sorryguys!

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