Guest guest Posted September 20, 2010 Report Share Posted September 20, 2010 So...it happened...unbelievable as it is. Yes, I want to call it unbelievable, I know many say today it shouldn't have come as a surprise, and in a way I suppose it didn't, but I just never wanted to believe it would actually take place... an actual nazi party* in the Swedish parliament. And with a risk of real influence** as well.I am sad all over AND completely disgusted. Many sad and angry songs played today. Over and over again. I know. They (the morons who voted nazi) are only about 6%. That means 94% didn't. And I suppose that should be a comfort. Probably will be, another day. But today I am just sad and disgusted. Doesn't make it a lot better that here where we are they actually got between 10% and 14%. said over dinner today: "Never before have I seen and heard people do the nazi salute [sieg Heil] live. Not anywhere. Not anytime. Only in documentaries about the 1930's and 1940's and world war II. But here I have.... And yet this is a nice place. How is that even possible?" I can only agree, and I have no answer. This IS a nice place. But yes, here I have seen and heard that, and been disgusted by it, and the political situation is just plain nightmarish. It doesn't add up, it just doesn't. Sigh... I guess I should go to bed now, and I say as one friend of mine said in a text just now: "Going to bed now. When I wake up tomorrow I want this whole election result to just have been a bad nasty dream". Agree.love/Reb* Sverigedemokraterna, abbreviated SD, used to be an self-acclaimed nazi party, they have cleaned up their act a little. But not their agenda or their politics, the only thing that has changed is they no longer use the nazi-word, and they *try* to refrain from saying Sieg Heil and stuff like that in public, with varied/limited success (ie. they tend to do that as soon as they don't know there is a camera or reporter present). And in at least one local parliament (City hall? Is that the word?), another, very much openly nazi, party has won a seat. ** Neither the socialist nor the non-socialist side won a majority on their own, so the solution, as it looks right now, will be a minority government always at risk of having to rely on the SD-party. I know they say *now* they will never ever do that, but we have yet to see that in actual day to day politics, when they need a majority vote in the parliament. One can always hope, of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2010 Report Share Posted September 20, 2010 So Reb, if only 6% voted, How is it that they were elected? Yes, it is a sorrowful and, as you called it, disgusting thing. I am sorry. ~*~Hugs~*~ ~*~Akiba~*~ -- Sad...no disgusted...no sad AND disgusted So...it happened...unbelievable as it is. Yes, I want to call it unbelievable, I know many say today it shouldn't have come as a surprise, and in a way I suppose it didn't, but I just never wanted to believe it would actually take place... an actual nazi party* in the Swedish parliament. And with a risk of real influence** as well. I am sad all over AND completely disgusted. Many sad and angry songs played today. Over and over again. I know. They (t he morons who voted nazi) are only about 6%. That means 94% didn't. And I suppose that should be a comfort. Probably will be, another day. But today I am just sad and disgusted. Doesn't make it a lot better that here where we are they actually got between 10% and 14%. said over dinner today: "Never before have I seen and heard people do the nazi salute [sieg Heil] live. Not anywhere. Not anytime. Only in documentaries about the 1930's and 1940's and world war II. But here I have.... And yet this is a nice place. How is that even possible?" I can only agree, and I have no answer. This IS a nice place. But yes, here I have seen and heard that, and been disgusted by it, and the political situation is just plain nightmarish. It doesn't add up, it just doesn't. Sigh... I guess I should go to bed now, and I say as one friend of mine said in a text just now: "Going to bed now. When I wake up tomorrow I want this whole election result to just have been a bad nasty dream". Agree. love /Reb * Sverigedemokraterna, abbrevia ted SD, used to be an self-acclaimed nazi party, they have cleaned up their act a little. But not their agenda or their politics, the only thing that has changed is they no longer use the nazi-word, and they *try* to refrain from saying Sieg Heil and stuff like that in public, with varied/limited success (ie. they tend to do that as soon as they don't know there is a camera or reporter present). And in at least one local parliament (City hall? Is that the word?), another, very much openly nazi, party has won a seat. ** Neither the socialist nor the non-socialist side won a majority on their own, so the solution, as it looks right now, will be a minority government always at risk of having to rely on the SD-party. I know they say *now* they will never ever do that, but we have yet to see that in actual day to day polit ics, when they need a majority vote in the parliament. One can always hope, of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2010 Report Share Posted September 20, 2010 Short answer: Sweden is not a republic, but a parliamentary democracy. That means the parliament (Riksdag), something like your Congress, is where the actual decision making is done. Any government has to be approved by the parliament to be legal, new laws and bills have to go through the (and be voted for by) the Riksdag etc. The Riksdag has 349 seats (uneven number so that no vote could ever be 50/50...). To be elected to the Riksdag your party (we vote for parties, not candidates, although one can vote for a particular candidate within a party too... but we leave that out right now. A short answer it was...), you need to get 4% of the votes, or above. The seats is distributed between the parties that get more than 4%, according to the percentage of the votes. We have, as of right now after this last election, 8 parties with more than 4% of the votes. Not one party got more than 50% alone. But that has been business as usual for a couple of decades... Therefor the parties form alliances (there is one socialist-environmental alliance, and one non-socialist). And usually, in the normal case, one of the alliances will together have more than 50% of the seats (and thus be capable of forming a majority government together). In this election, however, neither alliance has a majority of the votes (not without formally making the nazi party part of their alliance, and that they won't, at least). This means that the government will not be backed by a majority in the parliament, they will be a minority government, and in each and every issue they will need to win over votes from any of the other parties. It is here that SD may get real influence, even without being invited into an alliance. There votes may come to be necessary to make it possible for the government to govern. And God alone knows what they will ask in return should that happen... Any clearer?Oh. And thanks! love/Reb>> So Reb, if only 6% voted, How is it that they were elected? > Yes, it is a sorrowful and, as you called it, disgusting thing. I am sorry. > > > > > ~*~Hugs~*~ > ~*~Akiba~*~ > -- Sad...no disgusted...no sad AND disgusted > > > So...it happened...unbelievable as it is. Yes, I want to call it> unbelievable, I know many say today it shouldn't have come as a surprise,> and in a way I suppose it didn't, but I just never wanted to believe it> would actually take place... an actual nazi party* in the Swedish parliament> And with a risk of real influence** as well. > > > I am sad all over AND completely disgusted. > > > Many sad and angry songs played today. Over and over again. > > > I know. They (t he morons who voted nazi) are only about 6%. That means 94%> didn't. And I suppose that should be a comfort. Probably will be, another> day. But today I am just sad and disgusted. > > > Doesn't make it a lot better that here where we are they actually got> between 10% and 14%. said over dinner today: "Never before have I seen> and heard people do the nazi salute [sieg Heil] live. Not anywhere. Not> anytime. Only in documentaries about the 1930's and 1940's and world war II.> But here I have.... And yet this is a nice place. How is that even possible?> I can only agree, and I have no answer. This IS a nice place. But yes, here> I have seen and heard that, and been disgusted by it, and the political> situation is just plain nightmarish. It doesn't add up, it just doesn't. > > > Sigh... I guess I should go to bed now, and I say as one friend of mine said> in a text just now: "Going to bed now. When I wake up tomorrow I want this> whole election result to just have been a bad nasty dream". Agree. > > > love > /Reb > > > > > > > > > * Sverigedemokraterna, abbrevia ted SD, used to be an self-acclaimed nazi> party, they have cleaned up their act a little. But not their agenda or> their politics, the only thing that has changed is they no longer use the> nazi-word, and they *try* to refrain from saying Sieg Heil and stuff like> that in public, with varied/limited success (ie. they tend to do that as> soon as they don't know there is a camera or reporter present). And in at> least one local parliament (City hall? Is that the word?), another, very> much openly nazi, party has won a seat. > > > ** Neither the socialist nor the non-socialist side won a majority on their> own, so the solution, as it looks right now, will be a minority government> always at risk of having to rely on the SD-party. I know they say *now* they> will never ever do that, but we have yet to see that in actual day to day> polit ics, when they need a majority vote in the parliament. One can always> hope, of course.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2010 Report Share Posted September 20, 2010 Clear as the new fallen slush! No, I get it, sorta kinda...maybe...I think? ~*~Hugs~*~ ~*~Akiba~*~ -- Sad...no disgusted...no sad AND disgusted > > > So...it happened...unbelievable as it is. Yes, I want to call it> unbelievable, I know many say today it shouldn't have come as a surprise,> and in a way I suppose it didn't, but I just never wanted to believe it> would actually take place... an actual nazi party* in the Swedish parliament> And with a risk of real influence** as well. > > > I am sad all over AND completely disgusted. > > > Many sad and angry songs played today. Over and over again. > > > I know. They (t he morons who voted nazi) are only about 6%. That means 94%> didn't. And I suppose that should be a comfort. Probably will be, another> day. But today I am just sad and disgusted. > > > Doesn't make it a lot better that here where we are they actually got> between 10% and 14%. said over dinner today: "Never before have I seen> and heard people do the nazi salute [sieg Heil] live. Not anywhere. Not> anytime. Only in documentaries about the 1930's and 1940's and world war II.> But here I have.... And yet this is a nice place. How is that even possible?> I can only agree, and I have no answer. This IS a nice place. But yes, here> I have seen and heard that, and been disgusted by it, and the political> situation is just plain nightmarish. It doesn't add up, it just doesn't. > > > Sigh... I guess I should go to bed now, and I say as one friend of mine said> in a text just now: "Going to bed now. When I wake up tomorrow I want this> whole election result to just have been a bad nasty dream". Agree. > > > love > /Reb > > > > > > > > > * Sverigedemokraterna, abbrevia ted SD, used to be an self-acclaimed nazi> party, they have cleaned up their act a little. But not their agenda or> their politics, the only thing that has changed is they no longer use the> nazi-word, and they *try* to refrain from saying Sieg Heil and stuff like> that in public, with varied/limited success (ie. they tend to do that as> soon as they don't know there is a camera or reporter present). And in at> least one local parliament (City hall? Is that the word?), another, very> much openly nazi, party has won a seat. > > > ** Neither the socialist nor the non-socialist side won a majority on their> own, so the solution, as it looks right now, will be a minority government> always at risk of having to rely on the SD-party. I know they say *now* they> will never ever do that, but we have yet to see that in actual day to day> polit ics, when they need a majority vote in the parliament. One can always> hope, of course.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2010 Report Share Posted September 20, 2010 Oh no! I am sorry the election turned out like that. Hopefully people will rally and vote them out the next chance they get!!love SharonThis email is a natural hand made product. The slight variations in spelling and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in no way are to be considered flaws or defects. To: MSersLife Sent: Mon, September 20, 2010 1:19:58 PMSubject: Sad...no disgusted...no sad AND disgusted So...it happened...unbelievable as it is. Yes, I want to call it unbelievable, I know many say today it shouldn't have come as a surprise, and in a way I suppose it didn't, but I just never wanted to believe it would actually take place... an actual nazi party* in the Swedish parliament. And with a risk of real influence** as well.I am sad all over AND completely disgusted. Many sad and angry songs played today. Over and over again. I know. They (the morons who voted nazi) are only about 6%. That means 94% didn't. And I suppose that should be a comfort. Probably will be, another day. But today I am just sad and disgusted. Doesn't make it a lot better that here where we are they actually got between 10% and 14%. said over dinner today: "Never before have I seen and heard people do the nazi salute [sieg Heil] live. Not anywhere. Not anytime. Only in documentaries about the 1930's and 1940's and world war II. But here I have.... And yet this is a nice place. How is that even possible?" I can only agree, and I have no answer. This IS a nice place. But yes, here I have seen and heard that, and been disgusted by it, and the political situation is just plain nightmarish. It doesn't add up, it just doesn't. Sigh... I guess I should go to bed now, and I say as one friend of mine said in a text just now: "Going to bed now. When I wake up tomorrow I want this whole election result to just have been a bad nasty dream". Agree.love/Reb* Sverigedemokraterna, abbreviated SD, used to be an self-acclaimed nazi party, they have cleaned up their act a little. But not their agenda or their politics, the only thing that has changed is they no longer use the nazi-word, and they *try* to refrain from saying Sieg Heil and stuff like that in public, with varied/limited success (ie. they tend to do that as soon as they don't know there is a camera or reporter present). And in at least one local parliament (City hall? Is that the word?), another, very much openly nazi, party has won a seat. ** Neither the socialist nor the non-socialist side won a majority on their own, so the solution, as it looks right now, will be a minority government always at risk of having to rely on the SD-party. I know they say *now* they will never ever do that, but we have yet to see that in actual day to day politics, when they need a majority vote in the parliament. One can always hope, of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2010 Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 Thank you! I hope so to! They could still do a lot of damage in four years, of course. Especially if they get that very influential role it looks like now(but the last votes have not been counted yet, it's highly unusualthat the result changes dramatically after the first night, I know,but, still, it's not over till it's over. I'll cling to that last straw fornow...).love/Reb >> Oh no! I am sorry the election turned out like that. Hopefully people will > rally and vote them out the next chance they get!!> > love> > > Sharon> This email is a natural hand made product. The slight variations in spelling and > grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in no way are to be > considered flaws or defects.> > > > > > > ________________________________> To: MSersLife > Sent: Mon, September 20, 2010 1:19:58 PM> Subject: Sad...no disgusted...no sad AND disgusted> > > > So...it happened...unbelievable as it is. Yes, I want to call it unbelievable, I > know many say today it shouldn't have come as a surprise, and in a way I suppose > it didn't, but I just never wanted to believe it would actually take place... an > actual nazi party* in the Swedish parliament. And with a risk of real > influence** as well.> > I am sad all over AND completely disgusted. > > Many sad and angry songs played today. Over and over again. > > I know. They (the morons who voted nazi) are only about 6%. That means 94% > didn't. And I suppose that should be a comfort. Probably will be, another day. > But today I am just sad and disgusted. > > Doesn't make it a lot better that here where we are they actually got between > 10% and 14%. said over dinner today: "Never before have I seen and heard > people do the nazi salute [sieg Heil] live. Not anywhere. Not anytime. Only in > documentaries about the 1930's and 1940's and world war II. But here I have.... > And yet this is a nice place. How is that even possible?" I can only agree, and > I have no answer. This IS a nice place. But yes, here I have seen and heard > that, and been disgusted by it, and the political situation is just plain > nightmarish. It doesn't add up, it just doesn't. > > Sigh... I guess I should go to bed now, and I say as one friend of mine said in > a text just now: "Going to bed now. When I wake up tomorrow I want this whole > election result to just have been a bad nasty dream". Agree.> > love> /Reb> > > > > > * Sverigedemokraterna, abbreviated SD, used to be an self-acclaimed nazi party, > they have cleaned up their act a little. But not their agenda or their politics, > the only thing that has changed is they no longer use the nazi-word, and they > *try* to refrain from saying Sieg Heil and stuff like that in public, with > varied/limited success (ie. they tend to do that as soon as they don't know > there is a camera or reporter present). And in at least one local parliament > (City hall? Is that the word?), another, very much openly nazi, party has won a > seat. > > ** Neither the socialist nor the non-socialist side won a majority on their own, > so the solution, as it looks right now, will be a minority government always at > risk of having to rely on the SD-party. I know they say *now* they will never > ever do that, but we have yet to see that in actual day to day politics, when > they need a majority vote in the parliament. One can always hope, of course.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2010 Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 Oh Lord, Reb. That is like a true nightmare. I am so sorry to read this. It's downright disgusting.love to you and . Sad...no disgusted...no sad AND disgustedTo: MSersLife > So...it happened...unbelievable as it is. Yes, I want to call it> unbelievable, I know many say today it shouldn't have come as a> surprise, and in a way I suppose it didn't, but I just never > wanted to> believe it would actually take place... an actual nazi party* in the> Swedish parliament. And with a risk of real influence** as well.> I am sad all over AND completely disgusted.> Many sad and angry songs played today. Over and over again.> I know. They (the morons who voted nazi) are only about 6%. That means> 94% didn't. And I suppose that should be a comfort. Probably > will be,> another day. But today I am just sad and disgusted.> Doesn't make it a lot better that here where we are they > actually got> between 10% and 14%. said over dinner today: "Never before > have I> seen and heard people do the nazi salute [sieg Heil] live. Not > anywhere.Not anytime. Only in documentaries about the 1930's and > 1940's and world> war II. But here I have.... And yet this is a nice place. How is that> even possible?" I can only agree, and I have no answer. This IS > a nice> place. But yes, here I have seen and heard that, and been > disgusted by> it, and the political situation is just plain nightmarish. It doesn't> add up, it just doesn't.> Sigh... I guess I should go to bed now, and I say as one friend > of mine> said in a text just now: "Going to bed now. When I wake up > tomorrow I> want this whole election result to just have been a bad nasty > dream". > Agree.> love/Reb> > > > * Sverigedemokraterna, abbreviated SD, used to be an self-> acclaimed nazi> party, they have cleaned up their act a little. But not their > agenda or> their politics, the only thing that has changed is they no > longer use> the nazi-word, and they *try* to refrain from saying Sieg Heil > and stuff> like that in public, with varied/limited success (ie. they tend > to do> that as soon as they don't know there is a camera or reporter > present).And in at least one local parliament (City hall? Is > that the word?),> another, very much openly nazi, party has won a seat.> ** Neither the socialist nor the non-socialist side won a > majority on> their own, so the solution, as it looks right now, will be a minority> government always at risk of having to rely on the SD-party. I > know they> say *now* they will never ever do that, but we have yet to see > that in> actual day to day politics, when they need a majority vote in the> parliament. One can always hope, of course.> Kate Attachment: vcard [not shown] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2010 Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 I would have never thought that the Nazi party would ever become prominent again.. BUT I am not actually old enough to remember World War II and all the horrific stuff that went with it. I only know what I know because of History classes and familial antidotes (ie. my friend's father was amongst the soldier who liberated Auschwitz.. and the horrors he saw there) Now we do have a group of people in this country who will stake their lives on the Holocaust being a figment of someone's imagination, it being propaganda.. etc.. [they are sorely mistaken] We have sadly neglected our childrens' education in this department. They are familiar with the Terrorists of today, but have no inkling of the Terrorist of the past.. I agree it is a sad sad day when the Nazi Party comes into even the slightest power anywhere in the world, and I fear for the future. I have no words to convey my sadness at this event. ((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((( HUGS ))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) For Reb, and his fellow citizens |)onna So...it happened...unbelievable as it is. Yes, I want to call it unbelievable, I know many say today it shouldn't have come as a surprise, and in a way I suppose it didn't, but I just never wanted to believe it would actually take place... an actual nazi party* in the Swedish parliament. And with a risk of real influence** as well. I am sad all over AND completely disgusted. Many sad and angry songs played today. Over and over again. I know. They (the morons who voted nazi) are only about 6%. That means 94% didn't. And I suppose that should be a comfort. Probably will be, another day. But today I am just sad and disgusted. Doesn't make it a lot better that here where we are they actually got between 10% and 14%. said over dinner today: "Never before have I seen and heard people do the nazi salute [sieg Heil] live. Not anywhere. Not anytime. Only in documentaries about the 1930's and 1940's and world war II. But here I have.... And yet this is a nice place. How is that even possible?" I can only agree, and I have no answer. This IS a nice place. But yes, here I have seen and heard that, and been disgusted by it, and the political situation is just plain nightmarish. It doesn't add up, it just doesn't. Sigh... I guess I should go to bed now, and I say as one friend of mine said in a text just now: "Going to bed now. When I wake up tomorrow I want this whole election result to just have been a bad nasty dream". Agree. love /Reb * Sverigedemokraterna, abbreviated SD, used to be an self-acclaimed nazi party, they have cleaned up their act a little. But not their agenda or their politics, the only thing that has changed is they no longer use the nazi-word, and they *try* to refrain from saying Sieg Heil and stuff like that in public, with varied/limited success (ie. they tend to do that as soon as they don't know there is a camera or reporter present). And in at least one local parliament (City hall? Is that the word?), another, very much openly nazi, party has won a seat. ** Neither the socialist nor the non-socialist side won a majority on their own, so the solution, as it looks right now, will be a minority government always at risk of having to rely on the SD-party. I know they say *now* they will never ever do that, but we have yet to see that in actual day to day politics, when they need a majority vote in the parliament. One can always hope, of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2010 Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 I understand the damage that could be done in that four years! If you hadn't told us about this happening in Sweden I wouldn't have known because I have seen nothing in our news here.love SharonThis email is a natural hand made product. The slight variations in spelling and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in no way are to be considered flaws or defects. To: MSersLife Sent: Tue, September 21, 2010 2:03:04 AMSubject: Re: Sad...no disgusted...no sad AND disgusted Thank you! I hope so to! They could still do a lot of damage in four years, of course. Especially if they get that very influential role it looks like now(but the last votes have not been counted yet, it's highly unusualthat the result changes dramatically after the first night, I know,but, still, it's not over till it's over. I'll cling to that last straw fornow...).love/Reb >> Oh no! I am sorry the election turned out like that. Hopefully people will > rally and vote them out the next chance they get!!> > love> > > Sharon> This email is a natural hand made product. The slight variations in spelling and > grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in no way are to be > considered flaws or defects.> > > > > > > ________________________________> To: MSersLife > Sent: Mon, September 20, 2010 1:19:58 PM> Subject: Sad...no disgusted...no sad AND disgusted> > > > So...it happened...unbelievable as it is. Yes, I want to call it unbelievable, I > know many say today it shouldn't have come as a surprise, and in a way I suppose > it didn't, but I just never wanted to believe it would actually take place... an > actual nazi party* in the Swedish parliament. And with a risk of real > influence** as well.> > I am sad all over AND completely disgusted. > > Many sad and angry songs played today. Over and over again. > > I know. They (the morons who voted nazi) are only about 6%. That means 94% > didn't. And I suppose that should be a comfort. Probably will be, another day. > But today I am just sad and disgusted. > > Doesn't make it a lot better that here where we are they actually got between > 10% and 14%. said over dinner today: "Never before have I seen and heard > people do the nazi salute [sieg Heil] live. Not anywhere. Not anytime. Only in > documentaries about the 1930's and 1940's and world war II. But here I have.... > And yet this is a nice place. How is that even possible?" I can only agree, and > I have no answer. This IS a nice place. But yes, here I have seen and heard > that, and been disgusted by it, and the political situation is just plain > nightmarish. It doesn't add up, it just doesn't. > > Sigh... I guess I should go to bed now, and I say as one friend of mine said in > a text just now: "Going to bed now. When I wake up tomorrow I want this whole > election result to just have been a bad nasty dream". Agree.> > love> /Reb> > > > > > * Sverigedemokraterna, abbreviated SD, used to be an self-acclaimed nazi party, > they have cleaned up their act a little. But not their agenda or their politics, > the only thing that has changed is they no longer use the nazi-word, and they > *try* to refrain from saying Sieg Heil and stuff like that in public, with > varied/limited success (ie. they tend to do that as soon as they don't know > there is a camera or reporter present). And in at least one local parliament > (City hall? Is that the word?), another, very much openly nazi, party has won a > seat. > > ** Neither the socialist nor the non-socialist side won a majority on their own, > so the solution, as it looks right now, will be a minority government always at > risk of having to rely on the SD-party. I know they say *now* they will never > ever do that, but we have yet to see that in actual day to day politics, when > they need a majority vote in the parliament. One can always hope, of course.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2010 Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 Well said Donna! SharonThis email is a natural hand made product. The slight variations in spelling and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in no way are to be considered flaws or defects. To: MSersLife Sent: Tue, September 21, 2010 9:16:32 AMSubject: Re: Sad...no disgusted...no sad AND disgusted I would have never thought that the Nazi party would ever become prominent again.. BUT I am not actually old enough to remember World War II and all the horrific stuff that went with it. I only know what I know because of History classes and familial antidotes (ie. my friend's father was amongst the soldier who liberated Auschwitz.. and the horrors he saw there) Now we do have a group of people in this country who will stake their lives on the Holocaust being a figment of someone's imagination, it being propaganda.. etc.. [they are sorely mistaken] We have sadly neglected our childrens' education in this department. They are familiar with the Terrorists of today, but have no inkling of the Terrorist of the past.. I agree it is a sad sad day when the Nazi Party comes into even the slightest power anywhere in the world, and I fear for the future. I have no words to convey my sadness at this event. ((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((( HUGS ))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) For Reb, and his fellow citizens |)onna So...it happened...unbelievable as it is. Yes, I want to call it unbelievable, I know many say today it shouldn't have come as a surprise, and in a way I suppose it didn't, but I just never wanted to believe it would actually take place... an actual nazi party* in the Swedish parliament. And with a risk of real influence** as well. I am sad all over AND completely disgusted. Many sad and angry songs played today. Over and over again. I know. They (the morons who voted nazi) are only about 6%. That means 94% didn't. And I suppose that should be a comfort. Probably will be, another day. But today I am just sad and disgusted. Doesn't make it a lot better that here where we are they actually got between 10% and 14%. said over dinner today: "Never before have I seen and heard people do the nazi salute [sieg Heil] live. Not anywhere. Not anytime. Only in documentaries about the 1930's and 1940's and world war II. But here I have.... And yet this is a nice place. How is that even possible?" I can only agree, and I have no answer. This IS a nice place. But yes, here I have seen and heard that, and been disgusted by it, and the political situation is just plain nightmarish. It doesn't add up, it just doesn't. Sigh... I guess I should go to bed now, and I say as one friend of mine said in a text just now: "Going to bed now. When I wake up tomorrow I want this whole election result to just have been a bad nasty dream". Agree. love /Reb * Sverigedemokraterna, abbreviated SD, used to be an self-acclaimed nazi party, they have cleaned up their act a little. But not their agenda or their politics, the only thing that has changed is they no longer use the nazi-word, and they *try* to refrain from saying Sieg Heil and stuff like that in public, with varied/limited success (ie. they tend to do that as soon as they don't know there is a camera or reporter present). And in at least one local parliament (City hall? Is that the word?), another, very much openly nazi, party has won a seat. ** Neither the socialist nor the non-socialist side won a majority on their own, so the solution, as it looks right now, will be a minority government always at risk of having to rely on the SD-party. I know they say *now* they will never ever do that, but we have yet to see that in actual day to day politics, when they need a majority vote in the parliament. One can always hope, of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2010 Report Share Posted September 22, 2010 Thanks Sharon.. Not always sure that my brain is connected to my fingers when I start typing.. HUGS |)onna Well said Donna! Sharon This email is a natural hand made product. The slight variations in spelling and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in no way are to be considered flaws or defects. From: |)onna To: MSersLife Sent: Tue, September 21, 2010 9:16:32 AM Subject: Re: Sad...no disgusted...no sad AND disgusted I would have never thought that the Nazi party would ever become prominent again.. BUT I am not actually old enough to remember World War II and all the horrific stuff that went with it. I only know what I know because of History classes and familial antidotes (ie. my friend's father was amongst the soldier who liberated Auschwitz.. and the horrors he saw there) Now we do have a group of people in this country who will stake their lives on the Holocaust being a figment of someone's imagination, it being propaganda.. etc.. [they are sorely mistaken] We have sadly neglected our childrens' education in this department. They are familiar with the Terrorists of today, but have no inkling of the Terrorist of the past.. I agree it is a sad sad day when the Nazi Party comes into even the slightest power anywhere in the world, and I fear for the future. I have no words to convey my sadness at this event. ((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((( HUGS ))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) For Reb, and his fellow citizens |)onna So...it happened...unbelievable as it is. Yes, I want to call it unbelievable, I know many say today it shouldn't have come as a surprise, and in a way I suppose it didn't, but I just never wanted to believe it would actually take place... an actual nazi party* in the Swedish parliament. And with a risk of real influence** as well. I am sad all over AND completely disgusted. Many sad and angry songs played today. Over and over again. I know. They (the morons who voted nazi) are only about 6%. That means 94% didn't. And I suppose that should be a comfort. Probably will be, another day. But today I am just sad and disgusted. Doesn't make it a lot better that here where we are they actually got between 10% and 14%. said over dinner today: "Never before have I seen and heard people do the nazi salute [sieg Heil] live. Not anywhere. Not anytime. Only in documentaries about the 1930's and 1940's and world war II. But here I have.... And yet this is a nice place. How is that even possible?" I can only agree, and I have no answer. This IS a nice place. But yes, here I have seen and heard that, and been disgusted by it, and the political situation is just plain nightmarish. It doesn't add up, it just doesn't. Sigh... I guess I should go to bed now, and I say as one friend of mine said in a text just now: "Going to bed now. When I wake up tomorrow I want this whole election result to just have been a bad nasty dream". Agree. love /Reb * Sverigedemokraterna, abbreviated SD, used to be an self-acclaimed nazi party, they have cleaned up their act a little. But not their agenda or their politics, the only thing that has changed is they no longer use the nazi-word, and they *try* to refrain from saying Sieg Heil and stuff like that in public, with varied/limited success (ie. they tend to do that as soon as they don't know there is a camera or reporter present). And in at least one local parliament (City hall? Is that the word?), another, very much openly nazi, party has won a seat. ** Neither the socialist nor the non-socialist side won a majority on their own, so the solution, as it looks right now, will be a minority government always at risk of having to rely on the SD-party. I know they say *now* they will never ever do that, but we have yet to see that in actual day to day politics, when they need a majority vote in the parliament. One can always hope, of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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